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    [QUOTE=Abductee S;556440][QUOTE=wavydome;556359]
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    ....... This has caused the change in ET Intervention tactics to focus more on commercial and economic powers for allegiance and influence. These powers strongly influence the political arena and these powers are not accountable to the public at large.

    The ET Intervention is focusing on dividing us, causing conflict between us, and the overuse and consumption of our vital natural resources. This is occurring and will drive humanity into desperation and with that, an opening for ET to offer us salvation and an end to our problems.
    With all due respect and a neutral sentiment: These statements seem to stamp an anarchic-label on our planet. The wild planet full of hybrid genetics and risky biological experiments. Keep out! As labeled by legal trade groups and peaceful galactic sectors. Except the galactic underworld-types are scrounging earth for illicit trafficking of portable resources, (genetic building blocks and perhaps even genetic bombs to other planets?)

    The issue of societal purpose and why humans support the process of civilization comes to mind. Humanity should more readily pursue the quest for civilization. Indeed, humanity is distracted by the commercialist trinkets and tricksters. Which indeed scorches and burns our planet. Which well fits Summer's (and other's) warnings. Despite the many varied efforts to raise consciousness, humanity votes with their cash spending. Instead of bothering to prioritize a workable-sustainable-individualist-civilization.

    The highest human government does seem to be hidden economic powers, (economics without publicly-shared-morals). Politics subverts consciousness. Wars have always solved unrelated and undisclosed ends. At least some financiers seem to support global-racial-genocides as their plan for preferred survivors to rebuild with. Which well-fits a collectivist-approach to civilizing:

    Remove the individualist-culture of humanity first. Individualism has failed the civilization effort. So just remove it! And yes, here we have a salvation in the wings, just for you. Alien-collectivism at it's root, conquering new territories. Beware, life is not a consumerist-dream.

    What sort of human can expect to benefit from a human down-grade or human-demise? What sort of powerful humans support the alien effort? Are such people hybrids with inhuman tendencies? Or perhaps an archon-ic transplantation or whatnot? I wonder onwards. Common culture is too absorbed as an effect of materialism rather than to procure higher awarenesses. Higher awareness has even been marketed as trojan hook.

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    .... It is also stated in the Allies Book 3 that the original agreement was violated by the ET races themselves shortly after it was made. This prompted the original human counterparts to lose faith in the agreement and their dealings with the ETs involved. Those within the US government and the Soviet government (who were involved in the original agreement) began to turn away from the ET presence and attempt to counter it.
    I had wondered if the Allies Book series was meant to be a continuing book. Or was it more of an update done twice?.... Book 2 almost seemed like an updated version, in my initial reading effort. So i moved on to all the other titles, instead. (Eager to get a wider grasp sooner).

    If you can tell me your view on this, then, i might restart from Book 2. As your mention of Book 3 seems more specific on the "main characters". More specific than i recall, generally. Thanks.

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    Thanks for your in depth responses wavydome. I think my intent was to portray the earth and its relevant interactions in this region of space. We simply are involved in a "game" of power, resources and influence on a much greater scale and complexity than we have ever known amongst human nations. But, the chief idea is that all sentient life still must contend with the rigors of physical life, survival and the need for stability, security and resources.

    The issues of hybrids in this context is the genetic manipulation and creation by the Intervention of human/ET hybrids for the goal of a being that has the physical stamina and ability to live in this world, but the allegiance with and the mental abilities of the ET originator and group. These beings have now been refined enough to be present and active in the world. Some are definitely in the vicinity of powerful individuals and are influencing their behavior. Others are within the world in a yet unknown functioning. Their numbers are still small but increasing.

    In answer to your question of the three books being a continuation of each other, I would say that wasn't the intention. Each book represents a contact episode of the Allies with Marshall. Each was given very quickly to him through a process of "mind connection" at some level. The Allies always were at a distance from earth during this. The first book was given within our solar system. It was the awareness of the situation, the context and a solution. The second book was given just before the Allies fled our solar system due to their presence being uncovered. This occurred from the release of the first book and subsequent search by the Intervention for them. The third book was transmitted from a far distance from our solar system. Each was an attempt to convey relevant information and awareness for us to act. The subsequent books were updates to situations that had changed, answering some questions that had arisen from the first book, more information to us due to lack of response on our parts and attempting to give us what was required from the Allies to complete their obligation and mission.
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    Quote What sort of human can expect to benefit from a human down-grade or human-demise? What sort of powerful humans support the alien effort? Are such people hybrids with inhuman tendencies?
    One of the explanations here is the abduction of an enormous number of people, some for experimentation such as the hybrid program, but some for the purposes of "turning" their minds to support the Intervention. Once turned, they are far more likely to be among those who have lost faith in humanity and actively promote Intervention to "save us from ourselves" in one form or another. Others welcome it from a spiritual stance, not realizing that their beliefs are so easily manipulated, and that the Intervention itself has no recognition of spirit whatsoever. They merely pander to human beliefs insofar as they see them as tools for manipulation. Still others are enchanted simply with the concept of being contacted and the fact that this represents some remarkable departure from normalcy.

    The Allies describe how easily an event like the Second Coming can be staged using their superior understanding of the Mental Environment. They can project voices into the minds of the devout with the intent to turn them against the infidels. In these scenarios, active support of the Intervention isn't even necessary. Their purposes are fulfilled merely by manipulating belief to support a "divide and conquer" tactic. Consider how easily a totalitarian regime could seize control in such a scenario without requiring any overt alien presence or show of force.

    And certainly the individualism is perplexing to them. Hence, their efforts are supported by any movement toward a more homogenized human culture and, indeed, this has been underway for some time. Really, they are not so concerned that everyone is the same, so long as they can understand how to manipulate their beliefs. But larger tracts of human populations whose behavior can be predicted on the same models will make it far easier for them to enact their agenda.

    What is most confounding to them, according to the Allies, is the inexplicable expressions of devotion demonstrated by us. This is foreign to their experience and difficult to incorporate into predictions. The more we strengthen our connection to our higher selves, such as through the Steps to Knowledge (they tell us that throughout our larger galactic community this higher self, or God mind, is referred to as the Knowing Mind, or Knowledge), the more confounding we make ourselves. And, of course, this also strengthens our resolve and makes us impervious to overt control and Pacification.

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    Thanks danimyl , for joining this discussion. You have brought up that important aspect of "true Knowledge" as Marshall does devote many pages his important distinctions. To his promotion of one's higher self connection.

    I for one really loved the basics of his lengthy coverage, for stepping towards Knowledge. On the other hand , i have studied so many systems that devoting exclusively to Marshall's steps would require more commitments on my own part. This thread might perhaps encourage people to at least move in this direction. I would join a deeper discussion, even here.

    I think Marshalls works do provide a great avenue for persons coming from faith experiences. Who keep exploring or searching for additional avenues to explore. I have always been independent-minded in the spiritual realm which often conflicted with multiple faiths i sought to understand and discuss with devout people. I would have to include any people who practice very focussed sytems of any kind, where there is strong focus without effort to understand multiple systems. This even includes the flavors of materialism. Also including the over simplification of words like 'channeling' or deeper-inspirations.

    The rigidity to be found among many people may indeed be part of the problem which the allies of humanity referred to. Or perhaps this even includes the sorts of indifference or also aspects of easy-going lifestyles-- Which don't want anything new or compelling or complex. Rather just to find an easy stream to row. Resistances to deeper understandings of things could well be promoted by the invaders of humanity. What else shall we call them, the high jackers of humanity. Who are baited by the diverse promotions of soft living. I wish that the entertainment industry had made more shows like MacGyver, (a very independent scholarly-inventor-doer kind of fella).

    In any case, i wonder if Marshall's message is held back by having an organization... Note i highly respect his family organization and wish the best for them. It is simply a mind-exploration of mine: Is it possible for humans to share liberating-spirituality without official organizations? Herein is part of what i would include, when discussing the individualist-feature-of-humanity. Christianity after all got hijacked by the emperors and evolved through politics. So has academia been hijacked to an extent by monopolists, of the same politics.

    I expect that many avalonians are reluctant to discuss the high-jacking aspect of earth, within Marshall's contexts-- Only because one has to sort of accept "channeling phenomena" first. I simply have spent my life going directly to content first, before taking the ad-hominan approach of checking references, pecking orders and what not.

    One example of message-spreading, might well be individualists posting comments- Posting on diverse venues, like Progressive Radio Network. One example might be to post Marshall's issues on comment boxes, provided on these radio shows:

    http://prn.fm/2012/09/14/exploration...#axzz27HUdo5iU

    http://prn.fm/2012/09/07/exploration...#axzz27HUdo5iU

    http://prn.fm/shows/science-shows/bi...#axzz27HUdo5iU

    http://prn.fm/shows/spiritual-shows/...#axzz27HUdo5iU

    With a little help getting some links or refs, i might try this myself. As i am a little bit familiar with this network. I would also need to listen in to these podcasts first, to be fair and to integrate smoothly.
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    In answer to your question of the three books being a continuation of each other, I would say that wasn't the intention. Each book represents a contact episode of the Allies with Marshall.
    Thanks so much for your explanation AbducteeS.

    It really redirects me to restart at book 2.

    Yes, i have thought a lot about the plight of our allies and will dig into these books soon.

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    Thanks for the links Wavydome. You're right, this looks like a good place for some of these ideas to take root. As far as the requirement for organizations, in this case I think it was a necessity. Simply publishing the material in the first place required a free-standing organization to be established. Maintaining a website requires organization. It's really just another example of what the requirements are in physical existence. The need for administration and promotion doesn't disappear with the presence of a very high teaching. Just like the need for resources doesn't disappear with a high technology.

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    I have heard that the e-book version of Life in the Universe will be able to be downloaded for free from Amazon on the days of 9-28, 9-29 and 10-2-12. Well worth getting it if you haven't already.

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    Just to update again. If you would like to read this book, and haven't yet, the publisher is offering a free download (no time limit) at newmessage.org.

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    When this book was first announced I remember being very excited about learning how the universe arounds us functions. How do nations trade together? Does war exist in this region of space? What kind of social organizations do other worlds have? What about genetic engineering?

    Life in the Universe certainly did not disappoint on these issues, but after re-reading it I find myself even more interested in the spiritual aspect of it all. In this forum and elsewhere there has been much conversation about the spiritual power innate within humanity. It's a fascinating topic. This book provides insight into this from a universal perspective, and even goes into detail about how this spiritual power is used in the universe by certain gracious societies and individuals. Really interesting stuff.

    It also paints a compelling picture as to how the universe is actually organized, tying in natural evolution, God's creation, and the work of Unseen Forces in the universe. It just makes sense. I find myself re-reading these parts of the book more than the others. Worth the read for sure, especially now that they are offering it for free.

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    I loved the book, as I already mentioned...but I have a question for those like me who have read it and believe in its message: did you not feel a bit disappointed to find out that there isn't a spiritually advanced universe out there, that is like a loving family ready to take us under its wings and make everything work out for us?
    ...or close to that I mean...

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    Thanks for continued discussions,

    Actually, the spiritual aspect has fascinated me too.

    However i felt this aspect was largely clumped into one basic aspect only: Knowledge, (special definition here).

    That the spiritual-mechanics, (if you will) is entirely a matter of each individual being or group of beings, to develop locally.

    The individuality or "god within" aspect is truly emphasized. So important not to invoke cultic biases or nationalistic biases, or regional biases, or galactic biases..... Important not to cramp living creativity.

    As for "spiritually advanced universe".... I don't see the book excluding such possibilities. Rather it seems more of a 'challenge', to pick up from our struggles and push forward in total-awareness (in other words in perceptual and in responsible -advancement). Largely in do-it-yourself, with or without fellow-assitance. (As Knowledge can be sought within self or with others).

    As i read it, a universe might be defined as a self-contained system of celestial mechanics with life at multiple, manifested levels.

    Yet the focus was not so much on these itemized levels (of the universe, or of any other(?) universe)-- Rather it was more about our human struggle within a local galactic struggle...

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    I have just read in a recently released Teaching that said, "There are no enlightened races of beings in the universe, or they would not be in this stage of reality. Everyone is dealing with the problems of Separation, and while there are wise individuals and sometimes wise leaders of nations, everyone has the same fundamental problem. It is the problem not only of survival and security in a changing physical reality; it is the problem of what one will follow and what others will follow within themselves and between each other."

    When I look at it in this perspective, it gives much sense to what is said in Life in the Universe concerning spirituality, and the real nature of our dilemmas.

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    Just listened to an interesting, short interview of Marshall and this book by a large Dublin, Ireland radio station. Here is the link:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=8ebU4nGLML0

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    Quote Posted by Abductee S (here)
    Just listened to an interesting, short interview of Marshall and this book by a large Dublin, Ireland radio station. Here is the link:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=8ebU4nGLML0
    Thankyou Abductee S...I was looking for that...

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    Im searching for the book"Inteligent life in the universe" by carl sagan.I was told it is one of the best books around?
    I know it is very expensive in hardback.

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    I subscrive Marshall Vian Summers .

    The watchers are right. And we will have to stand on our two feet...part of the growing up...No Et's are going to save us. We have to do it !

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