Urgent : Time to prepare (Solar threat)

[Cognitive Dissident]

Thanks Mulder - this information is similar to his earlier interview with Kerry on remote viewing. Do you know whether he provided any additional information?

[Artworks]

Isn't this what the zeta talk is all about ? The coming pole shift, and that we are up to 7 of the 10 earth events, with the planet wobbling and plates stretching etc.......

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by Mulder (here)
Courtney Brown on his "Exploding Planet" interview with Kerry confirmed Bill's post. Courtney added the timeframe of 1 June 2013! Courtney says there will be complete loss of electricity grid/communications due to solar storms & there will be no shielding of the Earth when the magnetic Pole moves to Siberia! (the North Magnetic Pole moves 40ks a year). There will be a Loss of Government functioning e.g. rescue helicopters & Police. Rapid relocation of cities on coastlines because of water hitting these cities. This will happen on many places on Earth e.g. Sydney, Mombassa Kenya (these cities were mentioned in his earlier interview on remote viewing). We will have to live without life’s luxurys – no gas for cars, etc. Also, Washington was specifically mentioned in this interview at the end, as the Anacostia shore and all of the Potomac shore except the uppermost mile are at sea level.

i'm looking forward to this. a good opportunity for people to reacquaint themselves with the things that are really important in life. no money, no tv, no cars, no more frankenfood, no stressful work, no competition... instead: survival, growing your own food, bartering, helping each other, reading books, learning things that are useful, no more looking down on or up to others, building communities based on cohesion and mutual respect instead of social status or income. this is how a new world can be built. without such an -at first glance- destructive event, based on the current direction we're moving in, building a better world would be impossible. we're on a downward spiral right now. without a tight course correction humanity is doomed and the nwo is just a matter of time.

[Christine]

Posted by sdv (here)

A wave from the galactic center could be the cause of a solar event -- the galactic wave could cause the sun to flare.

Moreover, the main threat to earth from such a galactic wave would likely not be from the wave itself, but indirectly, from the energized sun.

This seems to be what remote viewers have been seeing.

Electrical and communication equipment that are damaged can be fixed/replaced. Human beings can solve problems.

Moreover, there are many millions of people who live every day without electricity, running water, a toilet, money to buy convenience food, motor cars, and so on.

There is nothing to fear other than our attachment to the convenient and comfortable and easy lifestyles we have (which may be disrupted until we can fix the damage).

Hello sdv,

If only it were this simple. Though what you say is true, sure people can learn to survive without electricity, running water, and the automobile. However people can not survive without water or food. Unfortunately our modern world distribution of these essentials for human life are dependent on electricity... to pump the water out of the ground and to pump the gasoline needed to deliver food.

And the worst possible scenario that is almost too difficult to confront is the likelihood of multiple nuclear meltdowns if the grid goes down - I would like to see evidence of humans solving this problem before it happens, if left unattended it will be too late.

This solar cycle is a serious threat to our survivability as a species. I believe that Bright Garlick in this thread is ultra sincere that we should heed this warning in whatever ways are available to us to prepare.

I have realized that most people will remain complacent in their lives until they are galvanized by a mutual threat and need to work together. Maybe that is what this solar cycle is all about.

Christine

[sdv]

Christine, you don't have to pump water out of the ground in order to get fresh water (and, actually you can pump water out of the ground using wind power or human power - people do it in Africa all the time). Are all your streams and rivers so polluted that you cannot use the water for drinking?

Food can be grown you know, and there are many farmers that grow food that you can eat without cooking (vegetables, fruit). Food can even be cooked without electricity. Hens lay eggs every day. There are fish in the sea. (you can collect wood, make a fire and cook the fish on a flat stone). Do you really not know how to get access to food that is not packaged and processed and delivered to you?

I guess that is why the remote viewers who did see disaster (and many of them did not categorically see this), saw people evacuating the cities on foot (no biclycles or horse-drawn buggies?) And there will be people among those evacuating who know how to get fresh water and find food, so it will be ok.

I just hope the event happens in winter here because there is a fresh stream within walking distance of me, but summer is the dry season so it is a trickle then!

As for the nuclear meltdown, check out the emergency plan for the nuclear reactor near where you live and attend one of their public safety meetings (and get hold of minutes from previous meetings).

I'm really not trying to be a naysayer here but to encourage people by assuring them that surviving a disaster such as communication and electrical systems failing on a grand scale is possible so there is no need to fear.

[greybeard]

Actually this is the reason I joined the original Avalon years ago--- ground crews were being formed with the idea of establishing communities that were self sufficient--- safe havens--some of us formed the Scottish Ground Crew and had several meetings, unfortunately none of us had enough money to buy or rent ground so it fell away.
Way back then it was talked about on Avalon that there would be earth changes of great magnitude-- tho it was a bit vague as to how this would come about or a time frame-- its more focused now as their is a time frame and several possible causes.
To the good there was a lot of survival information shared which is still quite valid-- Anchor would be a good resource for that.
The essence of the videos about just now seems to be that God looks after His own and I dont mean necessarily Church goers but people who have a concern for the well being of others -- you/we would not be on Avalon if that was not the case.
So do what you can without fear.

Chris

[Mulder]

Posted by Cognitive Dissident (here)
Thanks Mulder - this information is similar to his earlier interview with Kerry on remote viewing. Do you know whether he provided any additional information?

I wrote all that he said. I'm very disappointed he never gave us the date it all started, but we all know dates are impossible to remote view due to different time-lines. I also wish he would give some warning signs!

[araucaria]

Posted by Mulder (here)
Courtney Brown on his "Exploding Planet" interview with Kerry confirmed Bill's post. Courtney added the timeframe of 1 June 2013! Courtney says there will be complete loss of electricity grid/communications due to solar storms & there will be no shielding of the Earth when the magnetic Pole moves to Siberia! (the North Magnetic Pole moves 40ks a year). There will be a Loss of Government functioning e.g. rescue helicopters & Police. Rapid relocation of cities on coastlines because of water hitting these cities. This will happen on many places on Earth e.g. Sydney, Mombassa Kenya (these cities were mentioned in his earlier interview on remote viewing).

Courtney Brown's experimental protocol involved two dates: 1 June 2013 and 1 June 2008 (or 2009?). This was to validate the data from a future timeline, but I can't help feeling there would be some kind of entanglement between the two dates. If this had been done with 1 June 2012 for instance, the outcome might possibly have been different, I don't know, but in any case, the problem with RV into the future is deciding which timeline you are on. While multiple testing producing the same results suggests many similar timelines, nonetheless we could still be in for something quite different. COurtney himself quotes many cases of abduction events where for a long time the standard outcome of RV was basically garbage - a screen scenario. This could be more of the same imho.

[Midnight]

I have read some comments that if these events were to happen, they welcome the opportunity to return to a more simple way of life. You know, grow your own food, barter,etc.

But I suspect there would be roaming gangs of service-to-self types banging on your door with their guns, looking for food and other supplies. It would be a nasty world for some time, I suspect. I also have to say I will believe in this solar catastrophe when it actually happens. I've seen so many catastrophe predictions fail over the years that I think a somewhat skeptical attitude is wise when evaluating any doom scenario.

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by Christine (here)

Hello sdv,

If only it were this simple. Though what you say is true, sure people can learn to survive without electricity, running water, and the automobile. However people can not survive without water or food. Unfortunately our modern world distribution of these essentials for human life are dependent on electricity... to pump the water out of the ground and to pump the gasoline needed to deliver food.

And the worst possible scenario that is almost too difficult to confront is the likelihood of multiple nuclear meltdowns if the grid goes down - I would like to see evidence of humans solving this problem before it happens, if left unattended it will be too late.

This solar cycle is a serious threat to our survivability as a species. I believe that Bright Garlick in this thread is ultra sincere that we should heed this warning in whatever ways are available to us to prepare.

I have realized that most people will remain complacent in their lives until they are galvanized by a mutual threat and need to work together. Maybe that is what this solar cycle is all about.

Christine

see how unnatural the westernized world has become? most people just can't be bothered to carry water, grow food, recycle their waste, use their hands and their brains to ensure survival instead of their money. it's too INCONVENIENT.

the western civilization has severely deteriorated in less than a century and the deterioration is still accelerating. we depend on everything but ourselves for our survival as a species. this is a trend that has to be stopped before it's too late and there's no other way to stop it than disasters of worldwide magnitude. people who don't realize that something very very "inhuman" is going on on earth right now are either blind, ignorant or afraid to face the facts.

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by Midnight (here)
I have read some comments that if these events were to happen, they welcome the opportunity to return to a more simple way of life. You know, grow your own food, barter,etc.

But I suspect there would be roaming gangs of service-to-self types banging on your door with their guns, looking for food and other supplies. It would be a nasty world for some time, I suspect. I also have to say I will believe in this solar catastrophe when it actually happens. I've seen so many catastrophe predictions fail over the years that I think a somewhat skeptical attitude is wise when evaluating any doom scenario.

it would be a nasty world in certain areas, that's for sure. but eventually even those people would come to realize that fighting each other is counterproductive and that survival works only in tight communities who work hand in hand and trust each other. that is the basis for a new world, a better world as it has been described by prophets and et-contactees alike. our development right now goes in the opposite direction and there's no stopping that trend through talk, sending love & light and imagining a wonderful world like many seem to believe, unless everyone does it (good luck, people!). solar doom may be inconvenient in the short term but in the long run it's going to be our salvation.

[Bill Ryan]

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From http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...asteofsolarmax

A Taste of Solar Maximum

July 20, 2012:  Forecasters say Solar Max is due in the year 2013.  When it arrives, the peak of 11-year sunspot cycle will bring more solar flares, more coronal mass ejections, more geomagnetic storms and more auroras than we have experienced in quite some time.

On the weekend of July 14, 2012, sky watchers around the world got a taste of things to come.

(article continues here)

[Nick Matkin]

Good article from a reliable source - NASA (Well I think they are more reliable than some of the wacky "we're-all-doomed" internet sources!)

But it says "... more geomagnetic storms and more auroras than we have experienced in quite some time." Yes, since the last solar cycle peak about 11 years ago. We all survived that, and the one before that, and the one before that and...

The article doesn't say we're on course for a Carrington-sized event. And I haven't seen any qualified sources suggesting this solar cycle is really going to be more intense than others. In fact it's been much quieter than predicted by this time in the cycle. It might have fewer but more intense flares than usual, but then it might not.

When I first started work in HF broadcasting, colleagues told me of the intense Cycle 19 peaking in the late 1950s and the effects it had on radio signals, but hardly anything the man-in-the-street would have noticed.

I've noticed the recent CMEs affecting HF radio communications, but they're nothing unusual, just annoying for those who use HF radio. None yet as intense as the March 1989 flare/CME where the Northern Lights were visible from southern England!

Having said that, the Carrington event of 1859 was during solar-cycle 10, a quite average one looking here: http://www.ips.gov.au/Educational/2/3/1 (Click on solar cycle 1 to 23 from drop-down list). Unfortunately I haven't found any reliable data suggesting how often Earth gets hit by these mega flares.

What is the source of this imminent giant CME threat? Why is this cycle (number 24) supposed to be more dangerous than previous ones?

A skeptic might think there are those out there who just want to be scared, regardless of the science.

Regards,

Nick

[Midnight]

I did a quick re-examination of Paul Laviolette's Superwave theory, a theory that has been supported by evidence reported by other scientists in the years after he submitted his theory.

As you probably know, he believed that high concentrations of cosmic dust that emanated from the galactic core invaded our solar system every 13 to 26 thousand years, which excited the Sun to levels many times those that are currently seen. The last major superwave ended the last ice age. Apparently there is a black layer of earth that suggests that a massive plasma fireball ( or perhaps a series of them) may have reached the Earth and moon and scorched the surfaces.

If that were to occur again, we would have more to be concerned about than our global electrical grid. Did the Mayans and other indigenous people predict another galactic superwave with their calendars? Do the Ets know? Do the elite know, with their underground cities?

But it's still just a theory. And even if it is correct, the next wave might be hundreds, if not thousands of years in the future.

[Dennis Leahy]

Continued healing to you, BG!

Dennis

[syrwong]

Why is this prophecy of X-CME and perhaps more disasters so probably be true? If we compare this with the scare of Y2K, it becomes obvious. I do not know much, somebody else could give a better comparison, but here are some points.

1. The sheer scale of warnings from all sources, both alternative and even deliberate mainstream disclosure is incomparable. We virtually have everyone crying out the warnings, contactees, chanellers, scientists, whistleblowers, prophecies etc.

2. The information dating back decades, be it skeptical or not, like secret underground bases, and from movies over a period of decades, and from books, point to something big and disastrous. No disinformation campaign or Psy-op can be so big and extensive over such a long period.

3. The reasons for catastrophes are rather cohesive and convincing, even considering some disinfos added in. The X-CME is very much science, its devastating effect is definite. Nibiru is very much astronomical fact. So is Galactic alignment.
The Y2K reasons for scare appeared quite doubtful to me at the time.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by syrwong (here)
Why is this prophecy of X-CME and perhaps more disasters so probably be true? If we compare this with the scare of Y2K, it becomes obvious. I do not know much, somebody else could give a better comparison, but here are some points.

1. The sheer scale of warnings from all sources, both alternative and even deliberate mainstream disclosure is incomparable. We virtually have everyone crying out the warnings, contactees, chanellers, scientists, whistleblowers, prophecies etc.

2. The information dating back decades, be it skeptical or not, like secret underground bases, and from movies over a period of decades, and from books, point to something big and disastrous. No disinformation campaign or Psy-op can be so big and extensive over such a long period.

3. The reasons for catastrophes are rather cohesive and convincing, even considering some disinfos added in. The X-CME is very much science, its devastating effect is definite. Nibiru is very much astronomical fact. So is Galactic alignment.
The Y2K reasons for scare appeared quite doubtful to me at the time.

With y2K there was an easy fix, the main issue was 'would the fix be implemented in time for the major systems?' And yes it was. For this ... there is no fix, but how we are willing to change may drive the severity of the effects. It may be nasty, it may be not too terribly bad - I feel it is up to us to decide in some manner, but this is the metaphysical side of me trying to get some words in. Anyway we look at it ... we are completely at the Sun's mercy. I've chosen to relate to the Sun with pure love. My 2 cents.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Midnight (here)
I did a quick re-examination of Paul Laviolette's Superwave theory, a theory that has been supported by evidence reported by other scientists in the years after he submitted his theory.

As you probably know, he believed that high concentrations of cosmic dust that emanated from the galactic core invaded our solar system every 13 to 26 thousand years, which excited the Sun to levels many times those that are currently seen. The last major superwave ended the last ice age. Apparently there is a black layer of earth that suggests that a massive plasma fireball ( or perhaps a series of them) may have reached the Earth and moon and scorched the surfaces.

If that were to occur again, we would have more to be concerned about than our global electrical grid. Did the Mayans and other indigenous people predict another galactic superwave with their calendars? Do the Ets know? Do the elite know, with their underground cities?

But it's still just a theory. And even if it is correct, the next wave might be hundreds, if not thousands of years in the future.

In my opinion, the recently discovered ancient underground cities in Europe may well be a clue to how 'we' survived the last event of this nature, why would there be the need to build an underground city so long ago? That is a huge undertaking - one of these cities may have housed up to +20,000 people for several years - the motivation must have been huge .. like, survival huge. Mainstream science would reject this because of the timeframes indicated are outside of their paradigm, but just more evidence to the fact tha that paradigm is wrong ... but, there may be something else that comes with these cycles. The Mayans are gone, and I doubt they left their established kingdoms because they ran out of firewood (which is the mainstream accepted view as to why the Mayans disappeared ... lol). Keys to what else may happen within these cycles and/or events may be hidden in our mythology, ancient texts and even religions. There's a bit more than meets the eye I think (as there almost always is). My two cents.

[rmauersr]

Posted by Carmen (here)
Blufire, your post is to me the very best advice. Taking responsibility to be as self sustaining as possible. Live away from a city, grow your own food. Those who started preparing years back are in the best position. Those people who have had the warnings and not responded are not in a good spot. We all have the capability of doing something. Our intention and having a plan of action empowers us and one action leads to the next.

When I first learned of catastrophic events to come it was with a sense of dread, but as I learned more and took some action towards sustainability my whole outlook changed. I don't fear the future anymore. I now have a vague sense of excitement, of something momentous to happen in the future. Living is now one of plans and manifestations and wonder. And it's not a feeling of airy fairy naievity (spelling!). I keep myself informed and take action to the best of my present ability and that ability expands as I press on and don't give up. Thank you Blufire. I really like your post.

Minimum preparation for an indefinite duration of no electric power should include:

• Water (link) - Have a water plan. Three days without water is major trouble. If well water is accessible using an emergency well bucket, that is ideal. If water is taken from a stream or lake, one must have a quality water filter, a Berkey or equivalent.
• Food (link) - Beans, rice and canned food will keep us alive for a very long time, for little expense. Stock up on seasoning and spices to change flavor and avoid food fatigue. Food storage must last until the next harvest which could be many months in the future. Food can be cooked outdoors using a solar oven or camp stove that can use wood as fuel.
• Toilet (link) - A composting toilet (a.k.a. sawdust toilet) and two composting bins are required. Simple and inexpensive to make. Soap is needed for when toilet paper is no longer available.
• Wood Stove (link) - A wood stove is necessary for cold weather.

Prepare a little each payday and each trip to the grocery store. Start now. Don't stop.

Learn how to live as a poor Mexican lives. They have skills we do not.

[Carmen]

I joined Avalon for the same reasons you did Greybeard, to be part of a ground crew that was taking practical steps towards surviving what was to come. Some people seem to be doing practical things, gaining knowledge and preparing. Others just talk about doing something or decide that any sort of preparation is impossible for them. That's sad, we are all capable of doing something toward a self sustaining future. Just one step leads to the next. Taking steps also takes away the fear of what may happen. Focusing on a future and taking the steps toward it is self empowering.