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    Default Dalai Lama Supports 2045’s Avatar Project

    Now this is one "strange" story!

    Quote Congress will gather world-leading scientists and public figures in 2013, in New York, to discuss how Avatar technologies can drive human evolution.

    They discussed the three major steps of 2045 Avatar Project. First, the creation of a human-like robot dubbed “Avatar A,” and a state-of-the-art brain-computer interface system to link the mind with it. Next, it be created a life support system for the human brain, which connects to the “Avatar A,” turning into “Avatar B.” The third step, named “Avatar C”, is developing an artificial brain in which to transfer one’s individual consciousness with the goal of achieving cybernetic immortality.

    http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/4/prweb9456373.htm
    If your thinking this may just be some more wild BS story, check this link out:

    http://www.gf2045.com/

    or watch this:



    Has any one else heard of this?

    The Global Future 2045 Congress is a nonprofit organization with the goal of creating a network community with the world’s leading scientists in the field of life extension and to support them as an investment hub, contributing to various projects.

    This initiative produced its first congress -- "Global Future 2045” -- on February 17-20 in Moscow.

    The Congress objectives included:
    - Presenting the newest developments in the fields of cognitive sciences, robotics, and modeling of living systems
    - Evaluating the potential for transforming planetary civilization in light of the rapid pace of technological development
    - Analyzing possible scenarios for the development of civilization in the context of new concepts regarding universal history, or “Big History”
    - Discussing strategic problems arising in a dynamically changing world and the potential for the appearance of a global or cosmic mode of thinking.

    Event speakers were comprised of world leading physicists, biologists, anthropologists, sociologists, psychologists, philosophers as well as specialists in the fields of Big History, robotics, brain-computer interfaces, neurosciences and space technology from Russia, the United States, Canada, the Netherlands and other countries.

    The three-day event concluded with the finalization of a resolution that will be submitted to the United Nations demanding the implementation of committees to discuss life extension Avatar projects as a necessary tool in the preservation of humankind, as well as defining ethical parameters for scientists worldwide.

    The next GF2045 International Congress will be held June 15 & 16 2013, in New York City.


    Added: If true, this is really some heavy stuff and all I can say is WOW!

    ....and why is the Dalai Lama being so vocal and "infront" with something like this???? Hmmm?
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    Default Re: Dalai Lama Supports 2045’s Avatar Project

    Could have seen a movie that promoted the same idea, just don't remember the name
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    This is bull****! Who in their righ kind could think any of this Transhumanity **** is of value and safe for humanity?

    They will push his crap on me only if I am only already dead.

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    Default Re: Dalai Lama Supports 2045’s Avatar Project

    Regardless of whether or not the story is True..?

    Its (High Time) some of you 'Dalai Lama' devotees & supporters did some 'Homework' on...
    • Who he is..?
    • Why all of a sudden has his 'Name' been bandied across the Press of late through a PR Campaign Juggernaut..?
    • Why is he meeting and having his photo taken with the 'Who's Who of the Criminal Elite'..?

    Just 'Bloody-Well' search for yourselves how the 'Dalai Lama' fits into the 'Elite's Big Picture' & Why of late he has become a 'Major Player'...
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    Quote Posted by nearing (here)
    This is bull****! Who in their righ kind could think any of this Transhumanity **** is of value and safe for humanity?

    They will push his crap on me only if I am only already dead.

    Effing Matix world brough to life.
    My sentiments exactly. I think there should be some kind of discussion about being pushed in this direction without knowledge or consent. I think stories serve a purpose and it appears to me that there are more stories about aliens regretting giving up their bodies than not.

    I have had some other demensional experiences and while I dig them, I come back appreciating my body more. I like the option of getting out of it but I like the option of choosing to get back into it when I am done. I like zipping around the universe but I like being grounded and centered with the earth just as much. Having both options is the best of all worlds. Learning consciousness gives this to you. This is work. Zapping your mind in a mechanical body is trying to avoid doing the work which is why we are here now.
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    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    Regardless of whether or not the story is True..?

    Its (High Time) some of you 'Dalai Lama' devotees & supporters did some 'Homework' on...
    • Who he is..?
    • Why all of a sudden is he has been bandied across the Press of late through a PR Campaign Juggernaut..?
    • Why is he meeting and having his photo taken with the 'Who's Who of the Criminal Elite'..?

    Just 'Bloody-Well' search for yourselves how the 'Dalai Lama' fits into the 'Elite's Big Picture' & Why of late he has become a 'Major Player'...
    totally agree IMHO we have several clones of him in this theatre of fraudulence

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    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    Regardless of whether or not the story is True..?

    Its (High Time) some of you 'Dalai Lama' devotees & supporters did some 'Homework' on...
    • Who he is..?
    • Why all of a sudden is he has been bandied across the Press of late through a PR Campaign Juggernaut..?
    • Why is he meeting and having his photo taken with the 'Who's Who of the Criminal Elite'..?

    Just 'Bloody-Well' search for yourselves how the 'Dalai Lama' fits into the 'Elite's Big Picture' & Why of late he has become a 'Major Player'...
    Totally agree, I was wondering who would be the 1st one to bring these points up Thanks......
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    Default Re: Dalai Lama Supports 2045’s Avatar Project

    Humanity does not have a master plan of it's development. (It should know what it's meant to develop into? It doesn't have a clue!)
    It seeks stability
    (well that's a little bit of a problem)
    It lives in the present and does not plan.
    (that's a delusional comment. All it does is plan and watch it's plans corrupt in purpose, ignoring the 'present' entirely)

    It's interesting. The determination to believe and pretend that we know our own best interest will always only ever look like how clever we are at making external things
    to demonstrate evolution to us, and further isolate us from ourselves.
    And distance ourselves ever further from reality as it is.

    Lets make unreal bodies. That's a good idea.
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    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    Regardless of whether or not the story is True..?

    Its (High Time) some of you 'Dalai Lama' devotees & supporters did some 'Homework' on...
    • Who he is..?
    • Why all of a sudden has his 'Name' been bandied across the Press of late through a PR Campaign Juggernaut..?
    • Why is he meeting and having his photo taken with the 'Who's Who of the Criminal Elite'..?

    Just 'Bloody-Well' search for yourselves how the 'Dalai Lama' fits into the 'Elite's Big Picture' & Why of late he has become a 'Major Player'...
    Indeed, I voiced my suspicions about the Dalai Lama in Tenzin's "Spiritual False Flag" thread earlier today. So looks like we may have a challenger to Scientology as to who will be the official NWO religion!

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    Default Re: Dalai Lama Supports 2045’s Avatar Project

    Transhumanist propaganda at its finest.
    Mortals wanting to become gods.
    Science trying to create super humans, sounds like eugenics.

    It appears we learned nothing from WWII and the evil agenda is still active.
    We truly appear to be at war with our Creator. That tree of knowledge of good and evil sure carries some bad apples.
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    Default Re: Dalai Lama Supports 2045’s Avatar Project

    Quote Posted by jmj12 (here)
    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    Regardless of whether or not the story is True..?

    Its (High Time) some of you 'Dalai Lama' devotees & supporters did some 'Homework' on...
    • Who he is..?


    • Why all of a sudden is he has been bandied across the Press of late through a PR Campaign Juggernaut..?
    • Why is he meeting and having his photo taken with the 'Who's Who of the Criminal Elite'..?

    Just 'Bloody-Well' search for yourselves how the 'Dalai Lama' fits into the 'Elite's Big Picture' & Why of late he has become a 'Major Player'...
    totally agree IMHO we have several clones of him in this theatre of fraudulence

    Could this sudden interest in the Dalai Lama of the elite have anything to do with the research on Buddhist Monks whose brains were scanned during meditation?

    Zoran Josipovic, a research scientist and adjunct professor at New York University, says he has been peering into the brains of monks while they meditate in an attempt to understand how their brains reorganise themselves during the exercise.

    Dr Josipovic, who also moonlights as a Buddhist monk, says he is hoping to find how some meditators achieve a state of "nonduality" or "oneness" with the world, a unifying consciousness between a person and their environment.

    read more:

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    The Dalai Lama's past, particularly with the Nazi's - as well as their spiritual alignment with Tibet and its people, Buddhism being the only religion formally endorsed during the 3rd Reich - is indeed troubling from an aspect of "good" and "evil" as we necessarily understand them being BEings of Duality.

    The precepts of Buddhism would fit in quite well with Transhumanism, actually, as it fit in well with Nazism.

    Enlightenment is beyond "good" and "evil"

    It can occur to anyone who does the work or utilizes the machines and drugs to do it for them. Think of it.

    Robert Morningsky has been declaring recently that the human body is unfit for space travel and that only by engaging in some sort of transhumanistic evolution, which this project points to directly, can humanity travel to the stars. A human brain or some sort of cyborg creature to fly the ships. An entity that is no longer what we might consider human.

    But, considering how many times our species has been genetically engineered ...

    ... who is to really say what human is anyway?
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    Default Re: Dalai Lama Supports 2045’s Avatar Project

    Quote Posted by Rahkyt (here)
    The Dalai Lama's past, particularly with the Nazi's - as well as their spiritual alignment with Tibet and its people, Buddhism being the only religion formally endorsed during the 3rd Reich - is indeed troubling from an aspect of "good" and "evil" as we necessarily understand them being BEings of Duality.

    The precepts of Buddhism would fit in quite well with Transhumanism, actually, as it fit in well with Nazism.

    Enlightenment is beyond "good" and "evil"

    It can occur to anyone who does the work or utilizes the machines and drugs to do it for them. Think of it.

    Robert Morningsky has been declaring recently that the human body is unfit for space travel and that only by engaging in some sort of transhumanistic evolution, which this project points to directly, can humanity travel to the stars. A human brain or some sort of cyborg creature to fly the ships. An entity that is no longer what we might consider human.

    But, considering how many times our species has been genetically engineered ...

    ... who is to really say what human is anyway?
    To be human means human nature, which means flaws and warts.
    To be human means free will, which means the freedom to take the wrong turn, or search for higher consciousness.

    No matter how many geniuses out there think they can tamper with this basic fact,
    they will fail, so that they can discover it was never about mental brilliance in the first place.
    These efforts are doomed to fail.
    Now, if they got together to discuss food production and simple health matters, to eradicate hunger,
    homelessness and sickness, I would give it a thumbs-up.
    It appears that the Dalai Lama has lost his way...became a lost soul.
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    Well, can't say I'm shocked that the Dalai Lama is involved in this, I've been noticing things not quite right with him for some time now. I know already that this is basically the elite's plan, and they are more than welcome to bore and hollow out what's left of their souls all they want. We'll see how that works out for you guys, best of luck.

    As for me, living a good life, doing what I came to do, and dying a simple old man works just fine.
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    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    To be human means human nature, which means flaws and warts.
    To be human means free will, which means the freedom to take the wrong turn, or search for higher consciousness.

    No matter how many geniuses out there think they can tamper with this basic fact,
    they will fail, so that they can discover it was never about mental brilliance in the first place.
    These efforts are doomed to fail.
    Now, if they got together to discuss food production and simple health matters, to eradicate hunger,
    homelessness and sickness, I would give it a thumbs-up.
    It appears that the Dalai Lama has lost his way...became a lost soul.
    I agree, all of those things you mention, compassion, do define humanity as we understand it, but then that would mean, in the larger context, that perhaps many aliens are human too.

    From the article:

    Quote The Dalai Lama also agreed that it is crucial to discuss the ethics behind these types of progressive technologies. “We should carry out these experiments with a full sense of responsibility and respect for life that will only benefit humanity, benefit others.”
    He also made a statement about mind a little earlier that I find quite revealing:

    Quote “In the last few years, scientists now begin to show an interest about consciousness, as well as brain specialists, neuroscientists, who also begin to show interest about consciousness or mind. I feel that over the next decades modern science will become more complete,” said the Dalai Lama. “So up to now the matter side of science has been highly technical, highly advanced, but the mind side has not been adequate. This project, definitely, is helpful to get more knowledge.”
    His specific mention of "the mind side" in reference to the "brain-computer interface system" that Avatar project will create, speaks to a certain philosophical tact that is prevalent in some forms of Buddhism. The creation of Avatar A, which is that interface system, leads to Avatar B, which is a robot hosting a human brain, then to Avatar C, which is a totally artificial brain within a robot/Avatar, apparently, which the Dalai Lama seems, according to this article, to support.

    Quote Creating the “Avatar C” through developing an artificial brain and understanding the nature of human consciousness, says the Dalai Lama, could be attainable, and would be a great benefit to future development of science.
    It is my understanding that Buddhism does not proselytize the existence of a soul as many outside of Buddhism might define it. The "Atman" or Self might be the closest thing to it ...
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    Default Re: Dalai Lama Supports 2045’s Avatar Project

    My, My, How blind we all are today !
    First thing on our minds is to think on the dark side.
    Our minds are so indoctrinated with negative thoughts we cannot think without wanting to plant another seed of doom.
    We can only conclude that if a holy man stands next to an unholy man, the holy man is been transformed into another dark force with one mission, to control us all, to mislead us into the pits of darkness.

    Have you all forgotten sayings like:
    “It is easy enough to be friendly to one's friends. But to befriend the one who regards himself as your enemy is the quintessence of true religion. The other is mere business.” ― Mahatma Gandhi
    “Whenever you are confronted with an opponent. Conquer him with love.” ― Mahatma Gandhi

    Have you all failed to understand the subtle remarks of the Dalai Lama in the linked article:
    “In the last few years, scientists now begin to show an interest about consciousness, as well as brain specialists, neuroscientists, who also begin to show interest about consciousness or mind. I feel that over the next decades modern science will become more complete,” said the Dalai Lama. “So up to now the matter side of science has been highly technical, highly advanced, but the mind side has not been adequate. This project, definitely, is helpful to get more knowledge.”

    Here he specifically points to the materialistic approach of current man, and the future of consciousness, and what could be the outcome that H.H might be hinting at?...other than the scientific discovery of the existence of the Soul and Higher Mind, the very thing that we here at Avalon are supposedly trying to reveal to the younger souls in the world, those who are desperately searching for truth.

    Do you really believe that the forces of Light do not infiltrate the forces of darkness? Do you really believe that true spiritual wisdom is been overtaken by the little human mind?

    Where are we exactly, if our only thoughts are in fact our fears?

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    Aliens who are incarnated on earth are human, I agree, and if they have memory of their former world they may well be super-human....but all others have experiences to do with the conditions of their own world.
    It's a matter of how we define stuff.
    John F. Kennedy called himself a Berliner....couldn't even pronounce the word properly.
    Yet everyone knows a Berliner is also German, and Kennedy was more Irish American than German.

    And the Dalai Lama is not all the love and light they make him out to be, and since I am allergic to people with hidden agendas anyone who is quoting Buddhist doctrine is just an indoctrinated person, and needs to read the Trimiondis articles and books about the shadow side of Tibetan Buddhism.
    Or at least ask themselves why the MSM who we all agree to be the mouthpiece for the NWO is constantly presenting the Dalai Lama alongside with the Pope as the spiritual authority of this age. I don't want to upset anyone but some balloons do need popping once in a while.
    Google Victor and Victoria Trimondi, or Kalachakra, or Buddhism and misogyny.

    Anyway, here is one link already:
    http://www.trimondi.de/SDLE/Part-1-01.htm
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    Hello, Finefeather. The point that my posts on this thread have been making is that for the Dalai Lama to come out for this project is not necessarily good or evil. It can be both. Or beyond, depending upon your perspective.

    No matter what anyone believes or wants personally, Transhumanism is here. Good is here, Evil is here. They all have to be dealt with in the Now. The Dalai Lama is dealing with it. As he dealt with the Nazis.

    He tends to go straight into the fire on some issues and confront people's basic ideas about good and evil and then look to what the benefit is in any situation.

    To define him and the philosophy/spiritual system he stands for and lives is to limit him and it.
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    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    And the Dalai Lama is not all the love and light they make him out to be, and since I am allergic to people with hidden agendas anyone who is quoting Buddhist doctrine is just an indoctrinated person, and needs to read the Trimiondis articles and books about the shadow side of Tibetan Buddhism.
    Or at least ask themselves why the MSM who we all agree to be the mouthpiece for the NWO is constantly presenting the Dalai Lama alongside with the Pope as the spiritual authority of this age. I don't want to upset anyone but some balloons do need popping once in a while.
    Google Victor and Victoria Trimondi, or Kalachakra, or Buddhism and misogyny.
    You make valid and strong points, Ulli. He certainly is not Love and Light.
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    Great find .. Not to be overly sarcastic but if you care to open the Congress 'participants' page http://www.gf2045.com/persons/

    can not resist to say the direction of the exploration is focused on dominant male brain and its activity and how to preserve it ..
    because that's what they seem to be worried about after all .

    I've had a small chat about this topic time ago , with friend who works in the neurofeedback research full speed and when it came to the 'artificial brain' creation I told him it sounds amusing as long as it's not your head on that table .

    Some people think they'd make better life as 'thinking heads' that's it . It would cut some of the unnecessary living costs and expenses, daily traffic and other annoying problems with 'human body' .

    I don't know ..perhaps this is how we're going to end up here, congress will be 12 big head in jars who will work 24/7 if required and last 1000 years each .





    But I'm afraid they'd not be happy that way . I'm afraid of further de-humanisation of humanity .


    They're not able and willing to solve some much more acute human troubles, famine, uncontrolled outbreak of diseases, extreme poverty in many parts of world , screaming problems .
    But they think an artificial brain will sort it out for them ?

    I think it's cynical and frakensteinian idea in extreme .



    H.H. Dalailama received so many honorary degrees in psychology and human sciences just because they invite him to lecture and they know he will speak for the humanitarian side of human experience and consciousness .

    What appears to be popularised version of him in western media is just it, they can be all from friendly to sarcastic but none is really familiar with the way these people were brought up ,
    their life and thinking 'back home' . They want his support just because it fills in a DOT for them,
    and that's the tragedy . Names and meanings of Buddhist, Vedic, Christian and other teachings were misused for crimes on humanity too many times .

    Similarly as the wrongly understood ideologies were used by Nazis to defend their 'spiritual stand' during WWII.
    To this day, the 'new age' movement or 'new occultism' that still continues from Europe to the US bases some of its ideas on wrongly interpreted Hindu and Buddhist terms brought to Europe in 18th and 19th centuries by 'theosophists' such as Madam Blavatsky .

    I really hate when some ignoramuses who had never taken the chance to explore personally Tibetan culture, Tibet and the Buddhist tradition that evolves for more than 2000 years throw in '' and did you know of H.H. Dalailama Nazi connection'' or variably '' CIA connection'' .


    You tell me who of us here has no interest and no connection to these Projects , just for being aware of them , discussing them, taking part in research in one way or another .


    All is interconnected , is the message maybe . If you think we can live in world isolated from everyones else's ideas , dissociate ourselves from what they do, it's not going to work .


    Anyway, these are some very substantial questions .





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