'Scientists understand only 4% of universe'/Russian Hubble: Breakthrough space telesc

[Cidersomerset]

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5eonFu1Bi4

Published on 29 Jul 2012 by RussiaToday


Despite all the scientific breakthroughs and Nobel Prizes for discoveries, scientists seem to be no nearer to a possible answer to their main question - why did the universe appear? ­RT sat down to talk to Aleksey Filippenko, an American astrophysicist and professor of astronomy at the University of California, Berkeley, CA.

He was the member of the team that received 2011 Nobel Prize for discovering the dark energy that is speeding up the expansion of the entire universe. And he believes that it could have sprung into existence without any divine help whatsoever
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This article is from last year ....I did not know they had put up a large telescope..

Russian Hubble: Breakthrough space telescope?

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0bVHmwRav8

Uploaded by RussiaToday on 26 Jul 2011


Possessing the biggest-yet space telescope, just launched into orbit, and the only manned spaceship that can take cosmonauts to the ISS, Russia's role in world space programs is irreplaceable, the country's space chief Vladimir Popovkin told RT.
­RT:Well, America's Hubble will now have company in orbit. Is the Russian telescope looking to discover something the Hubble has been missing during all these years it has been operating?
Vladimir Popovkin: Foreign scientists, not Russian ones, say that our telescope is more interesting than the Hubble Space Telescope in terms of making new findings. It's a very profound science that implies a high degree of relativity of the final result. It's difficult to forecast anything here.
The telescope makes it possible to monitor the emergence of new stars and galaxies in a radio frequency band, to see how the whole process goes and gather some statistical data on the basis of which it would be possible to predict the dynamics of development of our planet and the Universe and to understand where we have all come from and what's waiting for us in the future. In this respect, this is a historical event which marks Russia's return to space science.

[SilentFeathers]

I wonder how they are "measuring or figuring" the extent of the universe and can even come to a conclusion of 4%?????? Sheesh, they must be pretty smart!

[Flash]

4%, are they kidding. Big ego it seems. I would rather put it at .000000001%.

[ghostrider]

ha ha they are the 4 % .

[danceblackcatdance]

he's talking about 'the laws of physics' but according to 'us' right... as soon as some arthur c clarke type tech comes along, some laws of physics will be broken?

isn't this higgs bosun thing there *because* we went looking for it? as is in some sort of heisenberg uncertainty observer type situ... after all its "only light" and light is what 'the illusion' is made of...

i understand the sub-atomic to have no structure at all until observed or defined by human intellect / imagination... as in particles appear then vanish and / or are in two places at once etc... so no one understands quantum and its ONLY a difference of scaling down in size from 'relativity'... its not even magic..

i think (?) Einstein said its impossible to go faster than the speed of light? so when this happens relativity is redundant too from what i understand..?

so in my mind 'reality' is a consensus story made up to make us feel better... we create the subatomic with our minds in the same way we create our realities and life stories.. and why it has been so important to capture our imaginations and control our lives... just by dividing us and getting us to forget that simple thing, we are the dreamers of the dream and what we imagine does come to pass..

[markpierre]

Posted by Flash (here)
4%, are they kidding. Big ego it seems. I would rather put it at .000000001%.

4% of infinity? That's a strange assertion. I think you were being generous. Maybe they mean just the fenced off part.

[araucaria]

Posted by markpierre (here)

Posted by Flash (here)
4%, are they kidding. Big ego it seems. I would rather put it at .000000001%.

4% of infinity? That's a strange assertion. I think you were being generous. Maybe they mean just the fenced off part.

This is correct: coming themselves from the fenced-off part, they can only have (at best) a 4% understanding of the 4% they (think they) can perceive

[nearing]

I love how he is asserting that the Universe is explained by a few laws (no creator needed) and yet he says that we just don't know how life and intelligence (or even those laws) came to be. Science can't answer those questions, he says.

Physicists are a strange and self-contradictory lot.

[danceblackcatdance]

And so castles made of sand fall in the sea... eventually

1. 230% efficient LEDs seem to violate first law of thermodynamics
Physicists hellbent on destroying the universe have come up with a tiny LED that produces 69 picowatts of light while using just 30 picowatts of power. That's an efficiency of above 100%, which should be impossible, but isn't.
- Mar 6, 2012

2. Uh oh: entangled particles break second law of thermodynamics
Looks like today's the day to head out to the garage and build yourself a perpetual motion machine, since Japanese physicists have just shown how to smash the classical second law of thermodynamics to smithereens using quantum entanglement.
- Aug 1, 2012

[rmauersr]

If scientists can estimate the known universe as 4%, and they can estimate how big the 4% is, then it is simple math to determine how big the universe is.

Someone is blowing smoke.

[13th Warrior]

Posted by rmauersr (here)
If scientists can estimate the known universe as 4%, and they can estimate how big the 4% is, then it is simple math to determine how big the universe is.

Someone is blowing smoke.

That's a good point!

...and which known universe?

[13th Warrior]

[QUOTE=Cidersomerset;529225]

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5eonFu1Bi4

Published on 29 Jul 2012 by RussiaToday


Despite all the scientific breakthroughs and Nobel Prizes for discoveries, scientists seem to be no nearer to a possible answer to their main question - why did the universe appear? ­RT sat down to talk to Aleksey Filippenko, an American astrophysicist and professor of astronomy at the University of California, Berkeley, CA.

He was the member of the team that received 2011 Nobel Prize for discovering the dark energy that is speeding up the expansion of the entire universe. And he believes that it could have sprung into existence without any divine help whatsoever


This guys is not a scientist; he's a politician with all the double talk he used in the interview.

[Mu2143]

I see mind control still works

[eni-al]

Don't take a negative look at scientists and science as a whole just because one person. You can't put a number on how how knowledgeable someone is, so it can't be applied for humans/science.

[danceblackcatdance]

i'll take a negative look at dogma any day

[Hatemachines]

The 4 % is referring to the known forms of matter & energy, comprised of all the elements we know; copper, iron, helium etc. (the visible, measurable, Universe) The 96% rest of the Universe is made up of dark matter and dark energy of which we know nothing. Only gravityforces e.a. tell there is something there..