ZIGs C2CAM Zeta Reticuli Exchange Program Main Show Only (With our own Bill Ryan)

[shadowstalker]

I wish I new when this was done, But i am glad I tripped over it..

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obE7rqMkGE8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obE7rqMkGE8

[ghostrider]

I love hearing Bill, give interviews and give information. thanks shadowstalker and Bill ( The Hat ) Ryan.

[Paul]

Posted by shadowstalker (here)
I wish I new when this was done, But i am glad I tripped over it..

I suspect that this is the Coast to Coast AM page for it, at http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2005/12/06 :

Project Serpo
Date: 12-06-05
Host: George Noory
Guests: Richard Doty, Bill Ryan, Whitley Strieber

Consultant Bill Ryan, retired US Military Intelligence Officer Richard Doty, and author Whitley Strieber all discussed Project Serpo, an alleged secret exchange program of 12 military personnel to Serpo, a planet of Zeta Reticuli, between the years 1965-78. Ryan explained that he is a participant in a private ufology email forum and that in early November 2005, an "anonymous" contributor began revealing information about the Serpo Project, which Ryan has subsequently chronicled on his website serpo.org.

Two other sources have also come forward, and all three are supposedly retired employees of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), said Ryan, who added there is a total of 3,000 pages of information on the project that is being released in installments. According to the "anonymous" source, Serpo is an Earth-sized planet with a population of around 650,000 "ebens" (our name for the ETs).An eben who allegedly survived the Roswell crash was said to have used a communication device to set up the exchange. Of the 12 who went on the exchange, eight returned (though all have since died), two died on Serpo, and two remained there. Ryan believes the story has credibility partially because some of the physics don't add up, and if someone was fabricating it, they would have presented more consistent details.

Strieber shared an incident that took place at a UFO conference in Gulf Breeze, Florida in the early 90's when an elderly gentleman told him he could prove he was from another planet, saying only one word after that-- Serpico. He now wonders if he misheard the word, and the man was actually saying Serpo. Doty said he was at first skeptical of the Project Serpo information, but later heard rumors within the intelligence community that the story is in fact true.

[Bill Ryan]

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From http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post372317 :

Hi, All:

Re Serpo, read this summary (please do this ):

http://serpo.org/final_update.php

As an addendum, I also heard this time last year from someone who back in the 70s had worked at NORAD -- where he'd heard scuttlebutt (informal rumor and chat) about Project Crystal Knight (the likely actual project name that Victor Martinez, Kerry and I had been told).

Here's his testimony published for the first time, very slightly edited.

My name is [full name given]. I am a professional electrical engineer specializing the rather esoteric field of electrostatics and electromagnetism in the electronics industry in [location given].

I worked at NORAD in 1976-1978. I was not what you would call a "senior level" military person back in those days. I was just a young airman. But, I did have the appropriate security clearances and the specific job classification necessary to have daily access to all areas of the Cheyenne Mountain complex for the three years I worked there.

What I recall hearing was primarily from the guys in the command center, is in my opinion, what you'd call "scuttlebutt". Common "around the coffee pot" type conversations. There was however, some excitement in the command center during a time period in July of 1978 from the guys working in the command center. As you may or may not know, the general "Top Secret" environment of the military is on a very "need to know" basis. The constant threat of "long prison sentences in Ft Leavenworth, or just mysteriously "disappearing from existence" were the most common punishment for speaking of classified information outside the community of "those who needed to know."

I recall hearing the words "Crystal Palace" and "Crystal Knight" from several different individuals on several occasions during the July 1978 time frame. I really did not give it any serious thought until just a few months ago, when I heard the phrase "Crystal Knight" once again. I heard from a friend that some of the project managers from the 1960's provided "deathbed" confessions of things they felt the citizens of the world should really be aware of.

I "Googled" Project Crystal Knight, and spent many hours researching the various tidbits of information. I explored all the possible "Internet links" regarding the planet Serpo (the "final destination" of this exchange program), the dates and locations in the USA where the exchanges had been made, and the general circumstances that led to the creation and negotiations of this ET exchange program. The scattered pieces of this puzzle started to make some sense now.

An interesting note: I really marveled between some of the similarities of Project Crystal Knight and the 1977 movie "Close Encounters of the Third Kind".

I am one who is knowledgeable of the fact that our government hides certain truths in the guise of "National Security". In addition, I am also very curious and constantly exploring and searching for all the "pieces of the puzzle" so that some sensible and logical explanation can be compiled that satisfies my personal curiosity of "things". Lastly, I strongly and wholeheartedly consider the Crystal Knight project as a "very probable" event.

[mojo]

Thanks I read the Serpo update 2007 linked above. It seems like a good attempt, even going as far as hand delivering the letter, and it doesn't surprise me that that toes may have been stepped on along the way. Just the action received back speaks volumes such as, there still appears to be a strong control over what knowledge that can be released to the public. I don't see disclosure coming anytime soon for that reason alone at least not by the powers entrenched.

[gripreaper]

Wow, just how deep does the rabbit hole go Alice? What amazes me is how 50 to 70 years hence, this information is still so deeply buried and classified, and most of the world population has no concept of the depth of technology which exists here on Earth, or the existence of other physical life forms.

I know, I know, this would completely destroy the existing paradigms of religion and science, as well as banking and energy. This would be too much for the interests of the cabal who is busy siphoning off all of the energy and assets of the current system, but now that the current system is totally trashed and on the verge of collapse anyway, can't we bring more into the mainstream the truth?

[edit]
This seems as good a time as any to "pull out all the stops" and let the truth come out. The hidden gems still buried in the Camelot archives is staggering to me. I sure wish Bill would write a book about his experiences as a Camelot journalist, and highlight and paint for us a "big picture" canvas from which to draw pixels and add texture.

[ghostrider]

They talk of time being longer than they thought, a binary system with two stars , could it be as one sun sets or touches the horizon the companion sun is still high and visible thus you think it's still daytime. Lets say the small sun sets on the horizon at 400 and the big sun at 700 so then when it is truly sundown ? Do we count the first or the second setting ? Could be two years for the planet to revolve around the big sun and four months to revlove around the small one ? The physics would be different than earth.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
The hidden gems still buried in the Camelot archives is staggering to me.

No kidding. It's all there. The problem is that that signal has become drowned out by an increasing cacophony of noise.

In retrospect, you can see the shape of the scheme of the controllers. They're planning something. Camelot had to be neutralized (which to quite some degree, has happened: Kerry and I were rather too potentially powerful together.) Many others have been embarrassed or tarred with enduring ridicule.

The alternative media has been inundated with distracting nonsense (from Elenin onwards, with no end in sight). It takes little imagination to see how the controllers might well be congratulating themselves with how good a job they're doing with us all.

They are very good at what they do. They have military organization, vast multitudes of people, ultra-high technology, and billons of dollars. They have done a really good job -- measured against their own goals -- at suppressing knowledge of events like Roswell and the 'Serpo' ET exchange program. And that's not even going near the really esoteric realities such as time travel, wormhole technology, faster-than-light travel, genetic manipulation, mind control, and remote influencing.

The only chance we have to counter all this is to use advanced 'psychic' ability... and many people are. Even there, there's a battle raging (see Houman's remarkable and important Horus-Ra thread.) This is what's really going on. And, to steal from Churchill's famous quote, it's the agate point on which our future will turn.

[gripreaper]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
They're planning something.

This has to be viewed like a mobius strip, 7 threads of energy moving within a closed loop with all 7 possible scenario's playing out at once.

1. the elite are planning on leaving the planet, as Bill has indicated in his Ultimate Hypothesis thread.

2. the elite are setting up a complete underground network to survive any major cataclysm which could potentially befall earth.

3. the elite are planning an engineered shift in the human genome with their newly developed human species, after a major eugenics program underway bio-genetically destroying the existing genome.

4. the elite are planning the collapse of the current world system of finance and corporatocracy to usher in a full One World control grid.

5. the elite are doing everything they can to stop the awakening of the masses and the use of our psychic abilities through mind control as highlighted in the Horus Ra thread.

6. the elite are planning the ultimate human sacrifice to their gods to get the final prophesy from Moloch.

7. you fill in this one.

So, while we focus on one scenario, the elite have at least seven scenario's running at once, covering all contingencies.

[truth4me]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by gripreaper (here)
The hidden gems still buried in the Camelot archives is staggering to me.

No kidding. It's all there. The problem is that that signal has become drowned out by an increasing cacophony of noise.

In retrospect, you can see the shape of the scheme of the controllers. They're planning something. Camelot had to be neutralized (which to quite some degree, has happened: Kerry and I were rather too potentially powerful together.) Many others have been embarrassed or tarred with enduring ridicule.

The alternative media has been inundated with distracting nonsense (from Elenin onwards, with no end in sight). It takes little imagination to see how the controllers might well be congratulating themselves with how good a job they're doing with us all.

They are very good at what they do. They have military organization, vast multitudes of people, ultra-high technology, and billons of dollars. They have done a really good job -- measured against their own goals -- at suppressing knowledge of events like Roswell and the 'Serpo' ET exchange program. And that's not even going near the really esoteric realities such as time travel, wormhole technology, faster-than-light travel, genetic manipulation, mind control, and remote influencing.

The only chance we have to counter all this is to use advanced 'psychic' ability... and many people are. Even there, there's a battle raging (see Houman's remarkable and important Horus-Ra thread.) This is what's really going on. And, to steal from Churchill's famous quote, it's the agate point on which our future will turn.

That "something" is the problem. If we knew what it was then we might be able to do "something" about the "something". That makes sense in a crazy way I suppose.....

[Lefty Dave]

This is quite a story...and what I really want to know is....

If an exchange program implies a group of twelve 'others' were left here on Earth...

for ten years..what became of them?


Thanks Shadowstalker ,et al

for theC2C interview and Serpo info

Thanks Bill Ryan

[Paul]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
They're planning something.

Planning something, or preparing for something?

Are those at the apex of the pyramid of power on (or near) this planet operating from a position of confidence in their control and destiny, doing their best to improve their lot, however they might view that, ...

or do they fear some impending doom and potential disaster, which they must attempt to fend off or prepare to endure?

The Banksters likely have sense of doom, but they were sent on a suicide mission, by some more powerful. It's been pretty obvious at least since the work of Robert Triffin in 1960's that the current monetary system, based on a reserve currency that is also a particular nations currency, was doomed to a short life. The Banksters (executives of major banks and financial institutions) are not at the apex of power on this planet.

I can think of at least two possible future events, which if they really are a concern, could possibly have been known and anticipated by the most powerful humans, for decades at least by now.

One would be an invasion by aliens who intend us great harm, and the other would be a nasty shift in galactic energy environment that is near our solar system. These might even be connected, if say the timing of some invasion depended somehow on that energy shift.

My sense is that the bastards in power are operating from fear, implying that they have good reason not to be confident of their future well being.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Lefty Dave (here)
This is quite a story...and what I really want to know is....

If an exchange program implies a group of twelve 'others' were left here on Earth...

for ten years..what became of them?

The 'exchange' -- as I remember -- was supposedly with three ETs, who came one after another (i.e. not all at the same time). Again, as best I recall -- without trawling through the Camelot archives! -- this information was primarily sourced from Robert Collins.

According to the Serpo story, two US astronauts died, two stayed(!), and eight returned -- some 12 years later. There's much about the Serpo story that's likely to be deliberately misleading and confusing information. Kerry and I heard independently from Linda Howe, Bill Hamilton, John Lear, and veteran film-maker Bob Emenegger that what really took place was an exchange program of three US astronauts -- one of whom returned safely, one died, and the third went insane.

Significantly, all four accounts agreed on this. I agree that this is far more likely... and of course the idea of two women accompanying ten men on a decade-long trip is highly improbable for a long list of obvious reasons. (US military psyches are smarter than that!)

See http://serpo.org/final_update.php for an account of our fascinating encounter with the "Serpo Old Man", whose name we were given and who was claimed to be a reserve astronaut (i.e. he was trained for the trip as a backup, but never went). There was most definitely something highly significant about our meeting (we were censured by Christopher 'Kit' Green, who uncharacteristically slipped up and inadvertently confirmed, several months later, that this person was very important and we should never have been bothering him at his house). Those who glibly dismiss the whole thing as pure invention have not done their research.

[Ultima Thule]

Bill,

how big could the implications of Serpo confirmed be? Enough to create decades long ongoing ET-saga with thousands of pages of channeled material? I am just wondering whether they could have created a technology that can be used to "upload" information for channelers to pick up, and therefore use totally honest people with best intentions to create unpenetrable ET-story, channeling etc. smokescreen, among movies, books etc.? This at least has been implied in conversations in here.

In the same lines I guess that when you and Kerry picked up on something absolutely spot on, an avalanche of skillfully misinformed whistleblowers would have been immediately sent your way, I wonder if a higher incidences of whistleblowers when looked in retrospect could give hints to the most important stories, perhaps aired previously? Just a thought..

UT

[RMorgan]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
They're planning something.

This has to be viewed like a mobius strip, 7 threads of energy moving within a closed loop with all 7 possible scenario's playing out at once.

1. the elite are planning on leaving the planet, as Bill has indicated in his Ultimate Hypothesis thread.

2. the elite are setting up a complete underground network to survive any major cataclysm which could potentially befall earth.

3. the elite are planning an engineered shift in the human genome with their newly developed human species, after a major eugenics program underway bio-genetically destroying the existing genome.

4. the elite are planning the collapse of the current world system of finance and corporatocracy to usher in a full One World control grid.

5. the elite are doing everything they can to stop the awakening of the masses and the use of our psychic abilities through mind control as highlighted in the Horus Ra thread.

6. the elite are planning the ultimate human sacrifice to their gods to get the final prophesy from Moloch.

7. you fill in this one.

So, while we focus on one scenario, the elite have at least seven scenario's running at once, covering all contingencies.

Hey mate,

There´s also the chance that all these options are nothing but distractions and disinformation.

I´m more inclined to think that we have no idea of what is their real plan.

These folks are masters of counter-intelligence and we shouldn´t underestimate their intelligence.

Raf.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey mate,

There´s also the chance that all these options are nothing but distractions and disinformation.

I´m more inclined to think that we have no idea of what is their real plan.

These folks are masters of counter-intelligence and we shouldn´t underestimate their intelligence.

Raf.

Yeah, trying to figure out the minds and intentions of an insane psychopath is never an easy thing to do.....darn right near impossible as a matter of fact.

They may be smart, but not smart enough in my opinion.

Now that they basically have all the wealth and power they'll lose interest in we normal poor people soon and won't be able to help themselves and will turn on each other......like in the movie Highlander, "There can only be one"

[RMorgan]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Yeah, trying to figure out the minds and intentions of an insane psychopath is never an easy thing to do.....darn right near impossible as a matter of fact.

They may be smart, but not smart enough in my opinion.

Now that they basically have all the wealth and power they'll lose interest in we normal poor people soon and won't be able to help themselves and will turn on each other......like in the movie Highlander, "There can only be one"

I agree, but as far as I know, they have all the wealth and power for centuries already.

They´ve always kept their internal fights and conflicts to themselves.

They, individually, are as smart and intelligent as any of us. The difference is that they are extremely organized and we´re not.

I believe somewhere in the future, the internet could be used as an efficient collective information data-bank, so we can organize ourselves and outsmart even the most efficient governmental intelligence agencies.

We already outnumber them. It´s just a matter of organization for us to outsmart them. Then they wont even have a chance to fight back.

However, the internet is a mess right now. It´s flooded with disinformation. We need to find a way to fix this first.

Raf.

[Flash]

Sorry RMorgan, THEY ARE MORE INTELLIGENT than us for many reasons:
They select the most apt and intelligent to work for them
They most probably have genetic enhancement and already have 3rd/4th generation of very bright people working for them
They most probably have intelligences enhancement capabilities that we do not have access to.
They have been dumming us down for decades if not centuries (chemtrails, food poisoning, etc)
They have all the money in the world to implement all of it.

Bill is right, the only remaining solutions may be psychic development on our side.

[RMorgan]

Posted by Flash (here)
Sorry RMorgan, THEY ARE MORE INTELLIGENT than us for many reasons:
They select the most apt and intelligent to work for them
They most probably have genetic enhancement and already have 3rd/4th generation of very bright people working for them
They most probably have intelligences enhancement capabilities that we do not have access to.
They have been dumming us down for decades if not centuries (chemtrails, food poisoning, etc)
They have all the money in the world to implement all of it.

Bill is right, the only remaining solutions may be psychic development on our side.

From this perspective, you´re correct.

However, since they are about about 1% the of human population or less, we, as the other 99% statistically have much more potential to develop a considerably bigger number of brilliant minds.

We, the people, if better organized, can win this war. We have the statistical advantage.

Metaphorically, we behave pretty much like a bunch of cows who are commanded by a cowboy. They fear the cowboy, just like they fear the barbwire fences.

However, if eventually something happened and all these cows realized their true potential, the cowboy and the fragile barbwire fences wouldn´t stand a chance.

Now, imagine if all the cows of the world organized themselves somehow! The cowboys wouldn´t even know what hit them.

It´s just a matter of organization. That´s what we need.

We can´t underestimate the elite´s power, intelligence and abundance of resources, but they can´t underestimate the power of the people as well.

I´m sure they know that and, for centuries, are doing everything within their reach to make us feel as impotent as cows in a corral.

Things will change sooner or later. Things will change because they have to change.

We´re not cows. There´s no way to keep such huge group of intelligent human beings in this intellectual corral for such a long time.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Operator]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
There´s also the chance that all these options are nothing but distractions and disinformation.

Hi Raf.

I think you're observation is a good one and may indeed (partly) be correct. However I would add the observation that
they kept us working so hard for them just by the projection that money has any value.

If it would ALL be dis-info then what would be their gain ?
I think they must have abused the masses to assist them manifest something. Their way out maybe ?

In Avatar Colonel Quaritch abuses Jake Sully who has access to another world to get a plan working. In Inception they use
the dreamworld to implant an idea that will change the plot in this (awake/real) world. Hints are all over the place ...

Posted by RMorgan (here)
I´m more inclined to think that we have no idea of what is their real plan.
These folks are masters of counter-intelligence and we shouldn´t underestimate their intelligence.

Right, I think we have lots of ideas of what they maybe up to ... but not a single one confirmed by facts.