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    Quote Posted by Snoweagle (here)
    These dams have little to do with energy or minerals. Sure, both will be beneficial to revenue collectors and investors but that happens to be a bonus to the construction of ANY dam.

    It is entirely about CONTROL of FRESH WATER. The single most important molecule on the planet for life. That is why dams are being created, control water and you control genocide.
    Dear Snoweagle, i see where you are coming from, but sadly they have already taken care of the water part.

    Read about the Guarani Aquifier and i quote
    Quote It is said that this vast underground reservoir could supply fresh drinking water to the world for 200 years.
    Guess which "family" has already bought the whole area of Paraguay that contains part of the aquifer since a few years ago? Even locking up the indigenous people of that area in 'their' estate as they fenced it off from the locals of that country. That recent removal of the president by a questionable parliament, had little to do with the Paraguayan people, and everything to do with furthering such agendas.

    And it wasn't even something they just planned, until Brazil started limiting the amount of lands on its borders that 'foreigners' can buy, the Bush family a long with other people in there 'group' (Reverend Moon comes to mind) were buying up the lands on the Brazilian/Paraguayn borders and more than once trying to stir up trouble between those two countries, in order to control this part of the world even more easily.

    Brazil is beyond rich in minerals of all kinds, and don't put it beyond companies like these to try an exploit it, regardless of how it destroys a vital part of planet earth, just in order to bring back their shareholders more profits than they could imagine possible. The people there need all the help possible in stopping the abuse of their country's human and natural diversity, and we do that by finding out as much truth as possible about each new 'idea' they get...like this Belo Monte Dam.
    on the other hand what is new about those on top trying to get rid of indigenous people from around the world, as who benefits from such a thing other than them?
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    i say fight fire with fire.

    Bomb these constructing sites, kill the men involved use the enviroment and set traps.
    Make them realise that this is THERE land, WhiteFeather is right.
    MOTHER IS SUFFERING and we have to start protecting her.

    These men do not care about the people or more importantly the enviroment they have to be fought in a language they understand because they do not care about signatures.
    They do not care about protests, they will do what they want, when they want.

    Why do more people not get angry about this, lets fight!
    Not sit around talking and trying to reach even ground,
    NO!! you cannot build on our land now **** off!!

    This is where im at with thisthese days, i just want to fight and fight and fight.
    Untill my hands are battered and bruised and MOTHER nature is once again whole and full, lush and green and children run barefoot thought grass, with there future ahead of them able to go where they want without penalty.

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    Quote Posted by seantimberwolf (here)
    i say fight fire with fire.

    Bomb these constructing sites, kill the men involved use the enviroment and set traps.
    Make them realise that this is THERE land, WhiteFeather is right.
    MOTHER IS SUFFERING and we have to start protecting her.

    These men do not care about the people or more importantly the enviroment they have to be fought in a language they understand because they do not care about signatures.
    They do not care about protests, they will do what they want, when they want.

    Why do more people not get angry about this, lets fight!
    Not sit around talking and trying to reach even ground,
    NO!! you cannot build on our land now **** off!!

    This is where im at with thisthese days, i just want to fight and fight and fight.
    Untill my hands are battered and bruised and MOTHER nature is once again whole and full, lush and green and children run barefoot thought grass, with there future ahead of them able to go where they want without penalty.

    Sean Timberwolf
    Some people think along this line as well, Sean.

    Brazilian indigenous can´t be arrested according to our constitution.

    They´re free to do whatever they want, including blowing up some dams.

    Also, most part of our military is supporting the indigenous, so it wouldn´t be hard to arrange some explosives...

    We have a history of military government, so our military don´t really like to work for corrupt politicians.

    They could also start the legal process to declare independence, forming a new nation, which would include the land, of course.

    Let´s see what´s going to happen.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
    The house is on fire, the fire alarm is ringing, you can smell the smoke, you can feel the heat, but somehow, refuse to get out of the bed and do anything about it; Maybe you´re just scared, maybe you believe the fire is an illusion, or maybe you´re just waiting for a miracle to save you...Eventually, you die. So, what is it worth to be "awake" if you don´t get out of the bed and do something?

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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Quote Posted by seantimberwolf (here)
    i say fight fire with fire.

    Bomb these constructing sites, kill the men involved use the enviroment and set traps.
    Make them realise that this is THERE land, WhiteFeather is right.
    MOTHER IS SUFFERING and we have to start protecting her.

    These men do not care about the people or more importantly the enviroment they have to be fought in a language they understand because they do not care about signatures.
    They do not care about protests, they will do what they want, when they want.

    Why do more people not get angry about this, lets fight!
    Not sit around talking and trying to reach even ground,
    NO!! you cannot build on our land now **** off!!

    This is where im at with thisthese days, i just want to fight and fight and fight.
    Untill my hands are battered and bruised and MOTHER nature is once again whole and full, lush and green and children run barefoot thought grass, with there future ahead of them able to go where they want without penalty.

    Sean Timberwolf
    Some people think along this line as well, Sean.

    Brazilian indigenous can´t be arrested according to our constitution.

    They´re free to do whatever they want, including blowing up some dams.

    Also, most part of our military is supporting the indigenous, so it wouldn´t be hard to arrange some explosives...

    We have a history of military government, so our military don´t really like to work for corrupt politicians.

    They could also start the legal process to declare independence, forming a new nation, which would include the land, of course.

    Let´s see what´s going to happen.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
    I hope enpugh people are there to care,
    If i was there i think i would, but im really starting to feel this way about the oppression of us and our planet now.

    Im sicl of reading about channeld info, and paleidians and the GFL and all this crap.
    Lets just sort our planet out, people are buying into this.

    Meanwhile this kind of thing is going on, but the media dont even acknoledge its exsistance.
    so no one even knows!!
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    It's difficult to put my feelings into words - anger doesn't hit the mark, it's more of a very very deap-seated rage, a primal outrage at the way our home and the indigenous people are being treated.

    I've long felt the Amazon to be my spiritual home, I've been there many times and lived a whole year in a city (unfortunately) right in the very heart. The first time I visited the Amazon (circa Manaus, 1996) I had a powerful message/realization : Mankind WILL NOT be allowed to destroy this area. The more crimes these bastards commit, the more they hasten their own demise.

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    Quote Posted by seantimberwolf (here)
    ... and MOTHER nature is once again whole and full, lush and green and children run barefoot thought grass, with there future ahead of them able to go where they want without penalty.

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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Hey folks,
    You guys have know idea of the scope of this problem.
    Belo Monte is just the first dam to be built in this region. There are 30 more to come.
    Do you think the Brazilian government gives a s**t for all the native tribes which will be displaced and massacred?
    This is just the tip of the iceberg.
    Energy generation is just an excuse in this case and the public is buying it.
    Do you want to know the real reason for building all these gigantic dams?
    The reason is mining. They´re building these dams to energetically supply a gigantic mining project which is about to happen on Amazon.
    There´s a complete worldwide media blackout on this issue. Everyone who dares to publicly talk about this huge mining project is getting arrested or murdered.
    Raf.
    And people say Mehran Keshe's energy devices could disrupt and hurt the economies of the world!!??

    What is more important, some theoretical virtual world of non-existant digital money controlled by elite banking cartels or living breathing plant and animal life? Keshe's technology was designed to PREVENT this kind of destruction. WAKE UP PEOPLE! THE SOLUTION IS STARING US IN THE FACE. WHY ISN'T ANYONE PUTTING KESHE'S TECHNOLOGY IN THEIR FACES??? AND CHALLENGING THEM TO DO THE RIGHT THING?

    This Dam is obsolete technology and will mean the destruction of a huge amount of the world's natural cooling and oxygen generation, thousand of species of plants and animals in a complex eco system that once torn down can never be regenerated.... Brazil doesn't have to spend all this money and resources. 600,000 people and not one has put two and two together???... WE ARE DOOMED! Destroying something so precious, that it has no price, for there is no substitute for what gives life...

    WAKE UP PEOPLE! IS THERE ANYBODY THAT CAN'T SEE HOW RETARDED AND DYSFUNCTIONAL THIS IS... WE'RE ALL MOANING AND COMPLAINING AND NO ONE HAS EVEN CONSIDERED THE SIMPLEST SOLUTION? DOES ANYONE HAVE ACCESS TO KESHE? HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST TO PUT HIM ON A PLANE AND FLY HIM OVER TO THE GOVERNMENT IN FRONT OF CAMERAS AND PR? IF YOU REALLY CARE, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, WHAT COULD BE MORE SIMPLE? WHAT COULD BE A GREATER WIN-WIN-WIN-WIN?

    The government gets an instant cost effective and environmentally friendly energy solution, Keshe gets to put his technology on the map and save humanity and the environment, the indigenious people can continue to live in peace and harmony, and the big money interests can go screw themselves...
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    Quote Posted by meeradas (here)
    Quote Posted by seantimberwolf (here)
    ... and MOTHER nature is once again whole and full, lush and green and children run barefoot thought grass, with there future ahead of them able to go where they want without penalty.

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    This is ongoing and urgent!!!

    Links to petition on original post.

    Article a few weeks old but relevant none the less.


    Belo Monte Dam: Not Just a Threat to the Environment


    BY Stacey Berger, Research Associate at the Council on Hemispheric Affairs

    – July 23, 2012

    The Belo Monte Dam project along the Xingu River had its preliminary plans drawn under Brazil’s military dictatorship and was a highly controversial environmental project from the onset. However, construction of the dam has continued despite its serious backlash, mainly due to the influence of Brazil’s developing economy. But the indigenous population along the Xingu River is increasingly concerned about their fate, as the dam comes with a high potential for environmental degradation and the establishment of new communities on their land.




    Brazil’s 2011-2020 energy-expansion plan is decisively dependent upon output from Brazil’s large hydroelectric dams, and the Belo Monte Dam is projected to bring about a 22 million home surplus once the Brazilian government completes the project. [i] It views the dam as a vital and legitimate development project, one that is projected to sustain economic growth as demands for dependable water sources, power generation and irrigation systems increase.[ii] However, the dam is charged with threatening the religion and culture of the Xingu Indians, or the set of beliefs that they deem essential to their civilization, and even worse, their very existence.

    To all of the Xingu natives, except the Kayapo and Suya tribes, the river signifies the “house of God,” which is now vulnerable to destruction with the arrival of the dam. The symbolic ritual of exchanging water between tribes for the indigenous people denotes a communal relationship and the interconnectedness of the earth, water, and mankind. In this culture, water therefore both represents and facilitates social unity, an aspect of life that the government cannot replace through simple compensation.[iii]

    The dam’s construction will require a diversion of the Xingu River, which will create a lasting drought on the “Big Bend” part of the river.[iv] The drought will severely inhibit agricultural practices, as severe droughts can be expected to augment the flammability of forests and thus increase the risk of losing crops and livestock.[v] This can be expected to affect the natives’ economies and their ability to survive. Usually the main powerhouse of dams is placed at the base, allowing the water to come out of the turbines and follow in a path down to the river. However, in the Belo Monte Dam “most of the river’s flow will be detoured from the main reservoir through a series of canals interlinking five dammed tributary streams, leaving the ‘Big Bend’ of the Xingu River below the dam with only a tiny fraction of its normal annual flow.”[vi] As a result, the Juruna and Arara indigenous tribes that live nearby in the Paquicamba and Arara regions, located near the ‘Big Bend,’ will encounter extreme difficulty in finding clean water sources. They will ultimately suffer from a deficiency of food and the spread of diseases due to the lack of water

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    In summary a Judge has halted the construction of the dam for now until as the law requires consultations by the indigenous communities, and Norte Energia will be fine $250,000 a day if it does not comply.
    Knowing the realities of Brazil, Judge Souza Prudente, is one super BRAVE man!!!!

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/15/wo...dam/index.html
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    here's link to an excellent site re the assault on indigenous Peoples & their bit of Momma Earth in Central & South America by the NWO :

    Ben Dangl's Upside Down World: Covering Activism & Politics in Latin America
    http://upsidedownworld.org/main/

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    Wow..,, this is good news

    "Belo Monte dam construction halted by Brazilian court

    Huge new hydroelectric project suspended until local indigenous community is properly consulted about possible fallout"


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...tion-suspended

    "Opponents of the world's biggest new hydroelectric project - the Belo Monte dam in Brazil - notched up a rare victory this week, when a federal appeals court ordered construction to be suspended until indigenous groups are properly consulted about the project.

    The judgment on Tuesday may prove only a temporary reprieve but it is seen as a scathing verdict on the government's efforts to rush forward with the Xingu River project in the Amazon, which - despite controversy - is one of the pillars of Brazil's efforts to reduce dependency on fossil fuels. It is also a setback for developers, led by Electrobras, which now face expensive delays or daily fines of up to R$500,000 (£166,00) if they do not comply with the court order."



    "About 12,000 construction workers are due to work on the dam this year, which is eventually expected to produce 11,000 megawatts of electricity - the third biggest hydro-electric generating capacity in the world after China's Three Gorges and Brazil's Itaipu dams. But the project has faced strong legal challenges and protests by conservationists and local tribes.

    The project - initially conceived during the years of Brazil's dictatorship - was supposed to have gone through an extensive environmental impact assessment before the start of construction, but judges from Brazil's regional federal tribunal have accepted a lower court ruling that Congress acted illegally in authorising the dam without due consultation with the indigenous groups that might be affected.

    "The court's decision highlights the urgent need for the Brazilian government and Congress to respect the federal constitution and international agreements on prior consultations with indigenous peoples regarding projects that put their livelihoods and territories at risk. Human rights and environmental protection cannot be subordinated to narrow business interests" said the author of the ruling, federal judge Souza Prudente.

    Belo Monte will flood an area of 500 square kilometres along the Xingu and force the relocation of 16,000 people, according to the government. NGOs says the number of displaced may rise as high as 40,000. Opponents - including representatives of the Juruna, Arara and Xikrin tribes, as well as international conservation groups and celebrities such as Avatar director James Cameron and actress Sigourney Weaver - have welcomed the ruling.

    "It's a historic decision for the country and for the native communities," Antonia Melo, coordinator of the Xingu Vivo indigenous movement, told reporters. "It's a great victory which shows that Belo Monte is not a done deal. We are very happy and satisfied."

    But the battle is far from over. The Norte Energia consortium, which is building the dam, will have an opportunity to appeal, which they have done successfully in the past. Environmental and human rights groups are calling on the government to accept the judgement.

    "This latest court ruling vindicates what indigenous people, human rights activists and the Federal Public Prosecutor's Office have been demanding all along. We hope that president Dilma's attorney general and the head judge of the federal court will not try to subvert this important decision, as they have done in similar situations in the past," said Brent Millikan of International Rivers.

    Slowing the momentum of a $16bn project is bound to run up against many powerful interests and the Brazilian government - which has made the expansion of hydro-power one of it priorities - is unlikely to back away from this flagship dam.

    But one of its main justifications - the production of non-fossil fuel energy to reduce the impact of global warming - may be undercut by other trends. In a new report, the National Institute for Space Research has revealed that carbon emissions from deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon fell by 57% between 2004 and 2011 as a result of improved measures to tackle illegal land clearances. If such gains could be built upon and more effort put into wind and solar energy, the pressure to harness Brazil's river might ease."
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