Spy Central: Utah

[bogeyman]

The NSA has a large facility in Hawaii (http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=31660). We have a large NSA listening station in Menwith Hill, UK, which is expanding at a rapid pace. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...base-expansion). The NSA is the most protected of all government agencies "no law shall be written" which effects its operational capabilities.

[Vala]

I thought I would chime in seeing as where I live about an hour from this center.

It has been interesting to see the construction of this thing. I believe it is far bigger than anyone could possibly imagine. I live two counties away and am aware of construction in my area for access to the facility. There have also been suspicious fires in the surrounding area that has destroyed homes. One set by Camp Williams during a training exercise which was supposedly an accident. It is also interesting to note that on the other side of that mountain range you see in the picture is Dugway proving ground. One of the only sites in the country containing chemical weapons.

There has always been links between the Mormon church and the alphabet agencies. One reason being the church trains an army of linguists. I am also aware that the church has its own secret police that are mostly ex alphabet agency. Most Mormons don't even know that this group exists and would be in denial if you told them it did.

It is indeed sad to see the Mormon faithful sold hook line and sinker something that is already divinely theirs. The brainwashing is subtle but effective. Most Mormons are very kind people but, incredibly judgemental in a very passive aggressive way. They have been trained since childhood that the greatest gift they could ever give to another is to share the gospel. That their belief system is the only true belief system. Bringing others to the same belief is their life mission.

What is fascinating to me is the energetics of it all. I'm someone who feels energy and in my experience everyone has a unique energy signature. Now a lot of the people here in Utah, especially the teenagers and college age kids all have the same energetic frequency. You run into these young newly married BYU students and the girls are like stepford wives. Perfect hair, perfect teeth all dressed the same and the energy is the same. And yes they will do as they are told if it comes from the prophet of the church.

My intent here is not to offend but, inform. For the record I was raised Mormon and many in my family are active Mormons.

Blessings,

Vala

[Fred Steeves]

I still say that this kind of operation continues to show how deathly afraid they are, of "little old us". I wonder what kind of category a post like this gets pigeonholed in.

Eh, like I really give a flying crap.

Fred

[Gemini]

I have some Mormon relatives there. Not sure if I should try to inform them. By the way, I noticed there's a Zion National Park (Google maps) in Utah.

[mountain_jim]

I lived in and worked in Zion National Park one 6-month tourist season - one of the highlights of my life.

But I saw the Mormon political and economic control of the area, and the whole state, first hand.

I also saw (but did not contribute to) what happens when tightly controlled teenage Mormon girls get a summer job in the park, away from home for the first time. Many of them went wild with their new-found freedoms: drinking, smoking, drugs, sex, etc.

One park restaurant dishwasher employee got fired after impregnating not one but two of these young innocents within a month's time.

I have explored much of this park, and understand why they named it as they did. It's one of the most magical and holy-natural places on earth, imo.

[nomadguy]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
I have explored much of this park, and understand why they named it as they did. It's one of the most magical and holy-natural places on earth, imo.

It is indeed, and regardless of the local politics, I think anyone should go and see this place if given the chance.

[CdnSirian]

"Recent revelations of illegal NSA surveillance activities are no surprise to a growing number of people whose lives have been disrupted and destroyed by the high-tech CoIntelPro(13) styled efforts of America’s intelligence communities.

American Citizens are targeted with military weaponry because they exercised the right to free speech – in disagreement with the Bush Adminsitration’s policies – or they have threatened the profit and propaganda potential of multi-national corporationsl. Some are selected for targeting simply for testing of new systems and technology by DOD contractors who are given free reign to develop these weapons, regardless of the disastrous effects on its victims of non-consensual experimentation"

Taken from here: http://www.mindcontrol.se/?page_id=1900 the site explains what is happening now and coming next on this front.

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Vala (here)
I
. I am also aware that the church has its own secret police that are mostly ex alphabet agency. Most Mormons don't even know that this group exists and would be in denial if you told them it did.

It is indeed sad to see the Mormon faithful sold hook line and sinker something that is already divinely theirs. The brainwashing is subtle but effective. Most Mormons are very kind people but, incredibly judgemental in a very passive aggressive way. They have been trained since childhood that the greatest gift they could ever give to another is to share the gospel. That their belief system is the only true belief system. Bringing others to the same belief is their life mission.

What is fascinating to me is the energetics of it all. I'm someone who feels energy and in my experience everyone has a unique energy signature. Now a lot of the people here in Utah, especially the teenagers and college age kids all have the same energetic frequency. You run into these young newly married BYU students and the girls are like stepford wives. Perfect hair, perfect teeth all dressed the same and the energy is the same. And yes they will do as they are told if it comes from the prophet of the church.

My intent here is not to offend but, inform. For the record I was raised Mormon and many in my family are active Mormons.

Blessings,

Vala

I have written on the Mormon issue on this forum also. It is my impression that Mormons will be leading figures after the SHTF. They will enforce conformity and be active in creating stablization in parts of the nation.

Mormons have a long history of police state mentality. Brigham Young simply executed those who stood against him in anyway. My husbands great great grandfather, William (Wild Bill) Hickman was a Dante, and paid executioner for Young. He had quite a story to tell which he revealed after Young kicked him out of the Church for refusing to do up someone that Young wanted eliminated.
Hickman said that this was a good man and he would not do it. Consequently he lost 9 of his 10 wives and all his land and livestock. He died a broken man from a bullet wound that would not heal over the course of years, but he did write a book about his life, which I have.

Currently most Mormons dont even know what a Dante is nor the story of Bill Hickman and others from that time. Murder is not new and I would not be surprised if it still goes on, but their other techniques of control are much more sublime now.

That being said, I have known some very delightful Mormons, although I consider them mostly very naive... but certaninly not all. Some Mormon women I have known are real power houses in their endeavors while still being quite heart based.

I know what you mean about their signature. Its like they have a different aura or something. I can spot them a mile away, generally.

Did you ever hear the prophecy about Mormons that circulates in Salt Lake... it goes something like this... there will be an earth quake, a devastaing quake that will bring water that runs under the Wasatch range to the surface causing severe flooding all though the Salt Lake Basin. When the first quake occurs you must leave immediately for a second will follow that will do the disaster. Hundreds of thousands will die.

All those Mormons who survive will be requested to bring their food stores, and the stores of those who do not survive, to a central location for general dispersement to all survivors.

In order to recieve rations you will submit to being implanted with a recognition chip. All this will be based out of Camp Williams and the new center being built is store chip information and full data on people. This project actually received several billion dollars for construction in about 2006 or so. I remember when it happened and this was the time frame when Bill Clinton made a visit to the Mormon Temple.

There is a huge subterrainian water flow from Canada down the Wasatch front by the way. I have this all written out, in storage somewhere.. the details are stunning...
All this prophecy came from a Mormon man who has been excommunicated from the church for putting it out there is my understanding. Ive not been able to verify any of this as I am not Mormon and not privy to any "occult" knowledge directly.

[mojo]

This book I read in High School comes to mind...

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NEt0IUW180

[CdnSirian]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)

Posted by Vala (here)
I
. I am also aware that the church has its own secret police that are mostly ex alphabet agency. Most Mormons don't even know that this group exists and would be in denial if you told them it did.

It is indeed sad to see the Mormon faithful sold hook line and sinker something that is already divinely theirs. The brainwashing is subtle but effective. Most Mormons are very kind people but, incredibly judgemental in a very passive aggressive way. They have been trained since childhood that the greatest gift they could ever give to another is to share the gospel. That their belief system is the only true belief system. Bringing others to the same belief is their life mission.

What is fascinating to me is the energetics of it all. I'm someone who feels energy and in my experience everyone has a unique energy signature. Now a lot of the people here in Utah, especially the teenagers and college age kids all have the same energetic frequency. You run into these young newly married BYU students and the girls are like stepford wives. Perfect hair, perfect teeth all dressed the same and the energy is the same. And yes they will do as they are told if it comes from the prophet of the church.

My intent here is not to offend but, inform. For the record I was raised Mormon and many in my family are active Mormons.

Blessings,

Vala

I have written on the Mormon issue on this forum also. It is my impression that Mormons will be leading figures after the SHTF. They will enforce conformity and be active in creating stablization in parts of the nation.

Mormons have a long history of police state mentality. Brigham Young simply executed those who stood against him in anyway. My husbands great great grandfather, William (Wild Bill) Hickman was a Dante, and paid executioner for Young. He had quite a story to tell which he revealed after Young kicked him out of the Church for refusing to do up someone that Young wanted eliminated.
Hickman said that this was a good man and he would not do it. Consequently he lost 9 of his 10 wives and all his land and livestock. He died a broken man from a bullet wound that would not heal over the course of years, but he did write a book about his life, which I have.

Currently most Mormons dont even know what a Dante is nor the story of Bill Hickman and others from that time. Murder is not new and I would not be surprised if it still goes on, but their other techniques of control are much more sublime now.

That being said, I have known some very delightful Mormons, although I consider them mostly very naive... but certaninly not all. Some Mormon women I have known are real power houses in their endeavors while still being quite heart based.

I know what you mean about their signature. Its like they have a different aura or something. I can spot them a mile away, generally.

Did you ever hear the prophecy about Mormons that circulates in Salt Lake... it goes something like this... there will be an earth quake, a devastaing quake that will bring water that runs under the Wasatch range to the surface causing severe flooding all though the Salt Lake Basin. When the first quake occurs you must leave immediately for a second will follow that will do the disaster. Hundreds of thousands will die.

All those Mormons who survive will be requested to bring their food stores, and the stores of those who do not survive, to a central location for general dispersement to all survivors.

In order to recieve rations you will submit to being implanted with a recognition chip. All this will be based out of Camp Williams and the new center being built is store chip information and full data on people. This project actually received several billion dollars for construction in about 2006 or so. I remember when it happened and this was the time frame when Bill Clinton made a visit to the Mormon Temple.

There is a huge subterrainian water flow from Canada down the Wasatch front by the way. I have this all written out, in storage somewhere.. the details are stunning...
All this prophecy came from a Mormon man who has been excommunicated from the church for putting it out there is my understanding. Ive not been able to verify any of this as I am not Mormon and not privy to any "occult" knowledge directly.

Chilling. Read the site I linked above and you'll see how easily this could come about.

[sigma6]

I also heard that this center was in part to deal with the tech advances needed to chip implant people. I also heard that Mormons will be some of the first to be implanted. I heard a few other nasties associated with this but seems to far out to repeat at this point.

they will probably turn it into a huge multi level marketing campaign and sell it on the internet...

(I guess I better add this part in, to make that joke make sense... some of the hugest MLMs, and Internet marketing campaigns come out of Utah, the level of sophistication of their marketing, s the most cutting edge stuff on the net, talk about science fiction...

...if you have ever delved into 'IM' and get one of those calls, where some 'overly assertive' 'consultant' 'wants to help you' start an 'online business' (although it might be stocks, or fx, etc...) by asking you a ton of personal questions... 90% they are Utah operation... going under a dozen different marketing platforms, it always boils down to they want at least $5,000 at the end of the day... )