My 9 year old niece would love your help

[etheric underground]

Hi everyone this is my Niece MAYA she is a very special star child, I love her very much and am very saddened to hear that she is suffering horribly with Juvenile Idiopathic Arthritis (polyarthritis )Rhuematiod negative and osteoporosis lupis... She is sooo amazing and strong but we cant seem to find anything from a medicals perspective to help her. If any one can offer suggestions or put my family on to someone who possibly could help ....it would be a miracle and we would be indebted to you always...
GOD BLESS YA SOCKS KERE....
P.S UNCLE KERE LOVES YOU LOTS MAYANAISE!!

[Houman]

Have her do the incurable or 30 days detox (milder for children) program of Dr Schultze
https://www.herbdoc.com/index.php/Ou...urable-Program

See https://herbdocblog.com/
as for why and how

[conk]

Try curezone.com

What is her diet like? Nutrients really are the answer.

The book Breaking The Vicious Cycle, Elaine Gottschall, tells of children being cured of many such ailments by abstaining from sugars that are disaccharides (two sugars bonded) or polysaccharides (multiple sugars bonded). Monosaccharides are ok (honey). Avoid all grains. Consume huge amounts of fermented foods. It's all about healing the intestines. Very complex mechanisms at work in the colon. So, the bad bacteria must be starved (elimination of sugars) and the good bacteria fed well and replenished.

Some doctors, mine included, have cured strange diseases by implanting infant fecal matter into the sick person's colon. A healthy infant has massive amounts of beneficial bacteria.

Most doctors will discount this advice, but their methods seldom work. Trust only natural, God-given remedies. Nothing else is effective.

God bless this child. None should suffer like her.

Edit: I agree with Houman. I've read several of Dr. Shultzes' books.

[CeltMan]

EU,

Sorry to hear of Maya's suffering.

Look up CMO, it worked to cure my osteoarthritus back in 1999.

The cartliage was worn away in both shoulder joints. Bones were calcified, and I was in a lot of pain.

Worth getting the book, by Dr.Sands and reading about the cure.

Here's a liink re book + CMO supplier.

http://www.cmorelief.com/

Best of luck anyway.

P.s. I'll add also Maya to my absent healing list if you wish?

[etheric underground]

Yes please celtman....much appreciated brother

[WhiteFeather]

Un-Pasteurized Apple Cider Vinegar with Mother
Raw Honey or Maple Syrup
Raw Garlic or Cayene Pepper

When combined its most powerful for many ailments, especially arthritis. Please research it when you can.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=...w=1024&bih=600

All the best to Maya.

[SKAWF]

have you tried giving her some pot mixed in with some warm/hottish milk? (let it brew for a while)

i dont know how your healthcare system works, but if you have to pay for meds...
it may work out a bit cheaper, and will have a more theraputic effect,

also, possibly get her on distilled water. (rather than tap water)

[Alan]

Does she eat grains (includes corn)? Grains are a leading cause of arthritis (sorry, I don't know anything about this specific variety).

Also MSM is a very cheap, very safe and very effective treatment for arthritis.

Good luck....

[Sierra]

Posted by alamojo (here)
Does she eat grains (includes corn)? Grains are a leading cause of arthritis (sorry, I don't know anything about this specific variety).

Also MSM is a very cheap, very safe and very effective treatment for arthritis.

Good luck....

Hi Alamojo,

I use MSM (severe arthritis), and it is ONLY effective against pain. It does not actually change the status quo of the arthritis. This means when you feel better while using the MSM, you also have to be careful not to push it too hard physically. I also stop taking it a few weeks at a time, once or twice a year, to get a baseline as to what *is* "pushing to hard" lol.

Disgusting stuff. The best way to get it down that I've found is lemonade with a spoonful of orange metamucil, and two scoops of MSM.

I'm going to check out the cmorelief site ...

Sierra

[Marsila]

Hi EthericUnderground....Maya is one super cute girl, she deserves to enjoy her childhood to the fullest.

The diet is very important, this has some helpful and harmful food ideas.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/17...oid-arthritis/

last year here someone had a great article about restructuring water using copper and magnets. Using that on painful joints did help alleviate some pains in no time. Also drinking distilled water every now and then is a good idea.

not much help, but sending a lot of love to Maya!!

[Alan]

Hey Sierra, I'm not sure you're right about MSM -- this type of arthritis is almost certainly auto-immune, and MSM is highly anti-inflammatory. I read lots of health-related stuff but I'm not that adept at regurgitating the details -- I strongly encourage Maya's uncle to further research MSM...

Also, fish and/or krill oil is highly anti-inflammatory, altho you may have to consume quite a lot to get the desired effect.

[RunningDeer]

Hello etheric underground,

In Macrobiotics, it is suggested that one should not ingest night shade foods such as: eggplant, tomatoes, potatoes (including potato flour), peppers, hot peppers, and condiments containing these products. They produce arthritic symptoms.

Also author, Annemarie Colbin, “Food and Healing,” writes “...Nightshade foods may subtly remove calcium from the bones and deposit it in the joints, kidneys, arteries, and other areas of the body where it does not belong.”

Dear Maya: If it is your wish, I send conscious intentions of high frequency energy, and only the highest and the best for you.

Peace and Health,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[sigma6]

Awww she is so cute, no one should have to suffer that, especially young children ... (tears in my eyes) etheric, go to this site and download the zip file which is all the pdfs listed it is 20MB (UT_Info.zip)
If you have any problems (you need to set up a 4shared account - they are free, but 4shared has a lot of distracting and misleading ad buttons that are bothersome...) then contact me by email, or skype or pm me and I will send it to you direct... you MUST read this information,

http://www.4shared.com/dir/nvUiiTFn/...led_Water.html

The most important to read are Martha Christy's book and John Armstrong's book as well as the Shivambu Gita by Dr GK Thakkar and the Natural Benefits - Jagdish R Bhurani. Lupus in particular as all virally related (or disruptive immune system related diseases probably due to her sensitivity to vaccines) related diseases are absolutely curable with this treatment. The story that Martha Christy tells is not a fairy tale, it's her real life, and her premise is clear there are dozens and dozens and dozens of scientific investigations referenced in her book on urine (I just posted a video on Dr Burzynksi and his anteoplastins, (which she also mentions) an extract of urine that cures cancer) but Christie's premise is the truth, the absolute best cure is the whole complete urine itself, no ifs ands or buts...

If you READ this information there will be no question in your mind... THESE STUDIES, which date back to the late 1800s - 2006... HAVE ALL BEEN SUPPRESSED... these books are not that large, are very quick reads, but speak volumes, it will dawn on you that most of Armstrong's cases were the severest illnesses that the medical establishment of that time gave up on, yet they were all cured, because it is based in reality and biochemistry... (Interesting note: Even Armstrong notes the exact same problems with vaccines that was observed in the 20's and 30's ... it kills children! THEY'VE KNEW ABOUT IT!) beyond their complete understanding. Literally hundreds of 'factors' have been identified which is why the whole urine is the absolute best remedy, especially for her particular disease, the Indian case studies on children are modern day versions and confirmation of exactly the same responses to treatment that Armstrong got... and according to Armstrong, children recovered very quickly on his protocol, and he used it with success on people in their 60s, 70s, and 80's...

I drink it every day... there is absolutely NOTHING in urine that is harmful, and everything in it has some biochemical benefit.... you will understand this on your own after reading Christie's book... Armstrong's urine fast is the most powerful treatment, because it both cleanses, rebuilds tissues and kills all germs, bacteria and viruses and provides life giving 'factors' There are just too many 'factors' to identify, refer to Christie's book for a tiny fraction of what is available in the urine. It cannot be bought or recreated in a laboratory, it is truly priceless... Maya could easily see tangible results within days to weeks, here I will be updating this with suggested video links as well... and I would strongly suggest getting a water distiller as well.

Excerpt from page 139 of Christie's pdf book:

As Free and Free explain:
"Literally thousands of compounds have been identified in normal urine and the vast majority of these have been derived from the blood...
The understanding of the composition of the urine has gradually evolved as the sciences of chemistry and physiology have developed... It is now recognized that the urine contains thousands of compounds, and as new, more sensitive analytical tools evolve, it is quite certain that new constituents of urine will be recognized"

This' report goes on to give a detailed listing of approximately 200 constituents of urine, but as the researchers comment: "this table is not considered to be complete, but identifies [only] compounds of interest." Listing all 200 of the ingredients here would be a bit much, so I'll give a sample of some of the ingredients in urine that are most recognizable because many of them are the same ingredients that you see on your vitamin supplement labels, or that you've read or heard about from various sources.

Again, we never think of urine as a nutrient, but as this analysis of urine shows, there are numerous elements of nutritional value in urine, along with hormones, steroids, and other critical elements that regulate and control key processes of the body:

Alanine, total ........... 38 mg/day..... Lysine, total ............. 56 mg/day
Arginine, total ..........32 mg/day......Magnesium - 100 mg/day
Ascorbic acid ........... 30 mg/day......Manganese .............0.5 mg/day
Allantoin .................. 12 mg/day......Methionine, total ......10 mg/day
Amino acids, total ......2.1 g/day....... Nitrogen, total ............. 15 g/day
Bicarbonate ........... 140 mg/day..... Ornithine ................ 10 mg/day
Biotin ..................... 35 mg/day......Pantothenic acid ......... 3 mg/day
Calcium .................. 23 mg/day......Phenylalanine ........... 21 mg/day
Creatinine ............... 1.4 mg/day..... Phosphorus, organic . .9 mg/day
Cystine .................. 120 mg/day......Potassium .............. 2.5 mg/day
Dopamine ............. 0A0 mg/day......Proteins, total ........... 35 mg/day
Epinephrine ........... 0.01 mg/day..... Riboflavin .............. 0.9 mg/day
Folic acid .................. 4 mg/day..... Tryptophan, total ......28 mg/day
Glucose ................ 100 mg/day..... Tyrosine, total ........... 50 mg/day
Glutamic Acid ......... 308 mg/day..... Urea ................... 24.5 mg/day
Glycine .................. 455 mg/day..... Vitamin B6 ............. 100 mg/day
Inositol ................... 14 mg/day..... Vitamin 812 ........... 0.03 mg/day
Iodine .................. 0.25 mg/day..... Zinc ...................... 1.4 mg/day
Iron .......................0.5 mg/day

Hormonal Substances
Aldosterone, male ...... 3.5 mg/day
Aldosterone, female ... 4.2 mg/day
Androgens, female
(20-40 yrs.) ................ 14 mg/day
Androgens, male
(20-40 yrs.) ............. 18.2 mg/day
Androsterone, female ..4.2 mg/day
Androsterone, male ....3.5 mg/day
Estradiol, female
luteal phase ................ 7 mg/day
Estriol, female
luteal phase .............. 28 mg/day
Estrone, female
luteal phase ............... 14 mg/day
17-Ketogenic adrenocoriticoids
female ................... 12.6 mg/day
17-Ketogenic adrenocoriticoids
male .................. 14.7 mg/day
Ketol steroids ......... 18.2 mg/day

Note:you may notice weird typos in these pdfs, that is because they have been OCR converted from real books, so you have to sometimes figure out a word or two yourself and titles, headers and page numbers confused the software, but you will be able to pick those out and ignore them easily... do not be dismayed by that...

Videos: pulled from the thread - "Water of Life..." #38, (not to get you too bogged down going through that right now, but there are some good references...)

Urine Good Health - The Science Of Drinking Your Own Pee
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GkDyL...eature=related
Some of the Doctors are playing skeptical and trying to make 'subtle' suggestions,
but if you listen carefully, they are hard pressed to 'deny' the benefits

Drink Your Pee
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2p7CSER25ik
(as told by a slightly racial sounding bladder! very informative at 5 min)

Andrew Norton Webber w Lisa Harrison - Apr 25, 2012 * *
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_msWtSljFQw

Webbers stuff is profound, even though he is not a Dr he has received hundreds of testimonials from people, his emphasis is on distilled water's ability to cleanse, (which is well established scientific fact used in many applications, but acknowledges UT is superior, according to testimonial results, ie. 20-30 days of urine therapy can do it would take 3+ months for a gallon a day of distilled will do... the only inconsistency I could see is that Christie said that overdrinking water while doing a UT is slightly counter productive because too watered down urine is not as effective at killing viruses and germs, which makes sense, as it is already at a biologically safe 95% water.

So UT and distilled water are focusing on different factors, according to Webber, urine is a form of distilled water... and it is the ability of distilled water to pull inorganic waste from the body, whereas with Christie and Armstrong it is clearly the factors that affect EVERYTHING in the body to heal, upon release it is more purified then the blood itself and completely sterile... and it is logical evidence of its high bioactivity, that it 'breaks' down so quickly into uric acid which itself has beneficial properties. According to Armstrong, when doing UT, just drink what additional water that you need... (distilled prefereably)

I suggest having Christie's book printed out and immediately available at all times, to constantly 'program' yourself with the truth, because of a lifetime of misinformation you will have, it is going to constantly 'pull you down', others who haven't read any of this information will 'scare' you off, etc. It is NOT disgusting, it NOT human waste, it is a necessary release of 'overage' to maintain very strict homeostatic levels in the blood that must be maintained constantly, its a simple foolproof system to make sure those levels are maintained without delay, and that is what makes it a godsend to those who understand its value... And I challenge anyone who has read the pdfs provided to tell me that there is anything detrimental other then issues of perception, bias, etc... and kids aren't as 'programmed' as adults, they will respond if parents are educated and communicate this information to them...

[Flash]

All of the above and AVOID GLUTEN. Gluten much too much in actual modified wheat (modified in the fifties) will play havoc with the intestine, making it porous and having undigested food leaking in the bloodstream and provoking autoimmune response cause the immune system cannot get rid of the undigested food. The intestine will become porous with time.

25% of people are now actually sensitive to gluten (a non publish canadian study, but I know the researcher). This is after the genetic modification of the wheat we consume worldwide, mostly Canadian and American wheat - it is not GMO because it has been done manually through breeding species of wheat.

[Karunai]

I've read -while looking for a solution for my heart disease months ago- that Magnesium Chloride is good also for all arthritis. I'll put here just some random links, there are more of course.

http://magnesiumforlife.com/transder...-lamp-of-life/

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/rhe...arthritis.html

http://www.auroville.com/Vijnana/interest/mgchl.htm

http://lampoflife1.blogspot.com/2010...magnesium.html

Infinite stream of loving and healing energies towards Maya.

[sigma6]

Just reading through the links,

I have just started to (very begrudgingly) hold back on garlic and onions, partially because of the UT, but also because apparently there is some nasty side effects in these foods.. garlic can penetrate everywhere in the body and actually destroys brain cells (great!) mind you cooked is less dangerous then raw, who knew? and I am seeing some weird correlations, ie. my putting up the Burzinsky thread just previous to reading this thread, and I just posted the following in a skype group... re: garlic

[1:29:26 PM | Edited 1:30:30 PM] sigma6: Dr Robert Beck - Garlic is a poison
https://youtube.com/watch?v=14aZbjs0mIY
apparently it kills tens of thousands of brain cells... how sad... thought it was a tasty health food...
[1:32:32 PM] sigma6: Ayervedic consider it toxic, that is why it is used as anti bacterial agent, and has negative side effects
https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=PGMbAQNXlCY

and as far as MSM is concerned that also happens to be one of the factors in urine, or something very similar or derivatives of... I think it is in that list, which is why urine also has a similar ability to penetrate into human tissue, other side benefits are that it is the antidote for poisons, and cures allergies, again because of all the information in it... the human body is a chemical producing factory and feeding the urine back in provides bio-readable information that the body responds to (see basic mechanism .pdf) there is just so many levels to it, Armstrong's stories are powerful, he applied it to thousands in his lifetime and almost didn't write his book because he knew all the grief it would direct on him so he waited to near the end of his life... I am grateful he did write it...

...on second thought you might want to read through the smaller pdfs, the documented cures are unending, including cancer, aids, metablic disorders... this isn't a band aid cure... it's the real deal and this is in agreement, I think with the fasting idea, as it is a powerful cure, maybe hard for a little girl, but this is very serious... and the most prevalent amino acid in urine. Urea is converted into the amino acid glutamine by ammonia, and used specifically for rebuilding the tissue in the gut and the brain, has a healing effect on ulcers and wounds in the intestinal canal, and finally it strengthens the immune system... and used to build many other proteins as well. I truly believe that she will be cured by this... that the solution is already in hand... peace and my best wishes

[Arrowwind]

There are many causes of arthritis and the other conditions that she has. The challenge is to find the cause so you can take the appropriate treatment.

CMO got rid of debilitating arthritis for me in 20 years ago, but it did not cure. I had to repeat the cmo several times over the course of the years, but never more than for a week or so. I also had tried classical homeopathy a few times with no success before the cmo came my way. Classical homeopathy is noted for helping some cases of arthritis cure, lupus too. Classical homeopathy is certainly worth a try. Give it 6 months and several visits to get results.

I have never been able to get to the bottom of the cause of my condition but I know that when my nutrition gets out of whack that is when I start to have some difficulty. When I get back on track it goes away. Im sure it is likely related to the many times I took antibiotics as I was growing up.

If it were my child I would not try to figure it out on my own... and certainly children deserve the best... if it had been my son instead of me with the debilitating arthritis my approach would have been to find the best altertnative medical doctor or naturopath that I could find. I would seek someone who can diagnose both with energetic readings as well as dark field live blood analysis. Her condition screams loudly of microbial invasion of her system. The trick is to find the thing that can get to the microbes that she has. These can be bacterial or viral or both. She may have more than one type of microbe causing a problem. There is only one thing that I would try at home and that would be MMS1 and MMS2. But the protocols would need to be diligently followed for an extended period of time I suspect. The advantage in having a doc who can do this kind of monitoring is that they will be able to see right away what is working and what is not. They will be able to take the diagnosis to a much deeper level and get to the root of the matter.

Some medical doctors know that much of arthritis is caused by microbes and that is why you will find some people with bad arthritis managing it with antibiotics. This is not the same as septic arthritis... more like a chronic arthritic condition rather than the acute which is commonly called septic arthritis. This is not the way to go. In the long run antibiotics will only make her conditions worse. But there are antimicrobials that could help.

I have seen arthritis greatly improve in severely arthritic people when they were on antibiotics for respiratory infections... but it came back in a few months.

This child does not have any kind of common arthritis. Her condition is extreme with the lupus and osteoporosis also. Is the lupus causing the arthritic symptoms or is there a double issue here I wonder? So many diseases in one little body... but perhaps they are only symptoms of one disease.

She needs expert advice and guidance and someone who can get to the root of the matter. All these home cures are fine and one or another may or may not be helpful. If she were an adult Id say try some but because of her age and the growth she must go through there really isnt much time to waste.

Osteoporosis at her age is unusual. She should have hormonal studies done and her Vitamin D3 levels checked. I suspect she will be very deficinet in D3. She should also supplement with vitamin K2 100mcg a day with the D3. Get her glutathione levels checked. With her level of disease they could be quite low. There are many reasons that osteoporosis can develop and only a through investigation will direct you to the answer. Again, I would not leave this to a common medical doctor.

Of course much malfunction originates in the gut. A history of the use of antibiotics and other drugs can be quite revealing. Only one course of antibiotics can spiral some kids into the abyss with their health. She likely has quite a history of drug use including steriods and other nasty stuff in their attempt to repress her symptoms as the disease continues to progress.. These drugs signficiantly damage the gut and I would suspect that she needs a protocol of removal of bad microbes and a restoration of what is needed, that being good healthy probiotics and fermented foods, natural home made fermented foods, not the trash from the grocery store. She would also need restoration of the gut wall though good nutrition. MMS can do a part of this work. people with irritable bowel and crohns disease have responded well to it and their conditions are likely much worse than hers. VSL#3 is the probiotic that I recommend and is preferred for bowel disorders. Its one of the most powerful on the market.

Another nutrient that might also be helpful is lipsomal vitamin c. You can learn to make that at home and there are threads on this forum about it. She should take a good does every day. www.vitamincfoundation.info

Serrapeptase is an enzyme product that may help with symptom control. Do not expect it to cure but It may be very helpful and possilby lead to the reduction of pain meds or steroids if she is on them. www.serrapetpate.info

auto immune disease? what is that? your immune system starts to attach your body. But why? what initaties it?
Many naturopaths are coming to the conclusion that microbes are the initating factor, but even before that why did the microbes take over anyway? well the docs would say its because there is an auto immune issue... and aroud and aroudn it goes.

Ultimatlely I think the auto immune system goes awry when microbes invade due to a nutritional issue, either vitamin or mineral. If the gut had been damaged by the use of antibiotics or vaccination then nutritonal deficiency can set it and it becomes a spiral downward. Vaccination can also introduce foreign microbes, protiens, toxic metals and god only knows what that bring on decline. I think that sometimes these drugs (and other things as well) can make permanent disorder in the chemical pathways of the body, actually causing a genetic defect, and there is your autoimmune disorder.

there is one other thing to look into that I know about and that is low dose naltrexone http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/
It has had some good results with arthritis and other autoimmune disorders. The challenge here is finding a doctor willing to help you to try it. I would save it as a last resort or if the child cannot be compliant with diet and other changes required. Just because you think something is good for a child to do does not mean that they will go along with it.

[Arrowwind]

Oh, I would add here that urine therapy is also a runner.. if you can get her to do it... I have seen very good results with it in the past.
If she wont take it orally there is the possibility of injections... it only takes like 1 cc subcutaneously, is my understanding

[Sidney]

I would have her tested for Lyme via the Western Blot or a Bowen test. You can google those for more info if you can get a dr to order the testing. Late stage Lyme has many of the same symptoms as such.

[ghostrider]

David Icke knows a healer that worked on creto mutwa who had a stroke and he made him whole again, I would contact him and try to get this gentleman to take a look at your niece. much love .