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    Thanks Frank. Both the 'entertainment' and apology took guts.
    Agreed but... guts or not, I think what he did is irresponsible. Apologising does not make it ok.
    I would have preferred it if Frank had explained that his performance was 'entertainment' before the show and not afterwards.

    Pranks are white lies among friends. Fraud consists of lies among strangers where no trust has been established.

    Either is an attempt to steal a tiny moment (or millennia) of power over another at their expense.

    An apology says more about the one offering it, sincere or otherwise, than it does about the one its intended for. Same goes for forgiveness.

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    What we saw was classic disinformation. Put out truth via a lie, and anyone in the future who talks about it is not believed because that "liar" is associated with that information. I personally do not thing Frank Vidal is some great thinker in the alt news area. Just my gut mind you, not anything based on proof. I think he is just one more piece of disinfo meant to malign the truth.
    It's unclear to me why Frank, a dentist and actor, would have wasted his time and brain power, on his own dime and solely for our entertainment, to cull through, comprehend, then organize a quality of scientific data that could muster authority high enough in rank to believably sign off on a certificate of planetary doom. Frank's panicked response via his office receptionist when Mel Fabregas telephoned asking about his Dr. Sal impersonation seemed way overboard when compared to his friendly spirited explanation today.

    If an alphabet agency employed him in a hoax designed to highlight the alternative community's vulnerability to deception when it encounters a presentation that congruently mimics our interests and unconscious emotional subtexts, then they succeeded at least during the first few hours of fireworks.

    If they wanted to prove we're all crazies to a skeptical public, I think we've got that handled. Who needs Dr. Sal to scare off incurious civilians when Bill himself announces his belief that the information Frank provided is probably credible or at least worth investigating. And it is, if you're interested in zooming in for a close-up on our shared deaths in four years. Those who think we're nuts aren't going to jump ship from the mainstream based on most of the topics discussed quite openly on Avalon. Conversion of the masses is David Wilcock's job, anyway.

    I'll entertain the idea that the world's going to end, though I doubt it will anytime soon. If I need to prepare to avoid unavoidable death at Mother Nature's hand , then I'll do what I can. But, like buying a lottery ticket to become a multimillionaire, any attempts I might make toward that end, imo, are equal to taking no action at all. I don't have the clout or money to build an underground apartment complex I'd be able to afford rent on, much less an entire civilization.

    Very scary things are happening. I guess its appropriate to feel afraid. Some have acted on their assessment of world events by moving to Ecuador. If I had the means, I'd be slobbering over nontoxic fruit in Vilcambaba in between awkward conversations with Rosetta Stone herself. I would like that.

    But....uh oh, look at the time.

    I've drifted and I can't get up!
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    a flashlight?! Think big, man: we have a sun, it ain't broke, get out and get some vitamin D

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...-sphere-nature

    alternate leaders?! Think small, man: do your own leading, if anyone wants to follow, they will. Just do it
    Yes i love the sun , i sun gaze most days of the week. Perhaps i have not explained myself well. Subterranian housing is a more energy efficient and safer way of housing. It can make use of geo thermal activity and can be more cost effective. Its safer in general and less exposed to the elements. Its a smart and progressive evolution to housing. And while we are still blessed with a beautiful atmosphere we can go out and enjoy it still.

    So yes i certainly agree with you : 0 ) but perhaps my point should deserve some more consideration ?

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    a flashlight?! Think big, man: we have a sun, it ain't broke, get out and get some vitamin D

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...-sphere-nature

    alternate leaders?! Think small, man: do your own leading, if anyone wants to follow, they will. Just do it
    Yes i love the sun , i sun gaze most days of the week. Perhaps i have not explained myself well. Subterranian housing is a more energy efficient and safer way of housing. It can make use of geo thermal activity and can be more cost effective. Its safer in general and less exposed to the elements. Its a smart and progressive evolution to housing. And while we are still blessed with a beautiful atmosphere we can go out and enjoy it still.

    So yes i certainly agree with you : 0 ) but perhaps my point should deserve some more consideration ?

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    You might agree with me, but I certainly don’t agree with you

    In the context of this thread, your reaction to a hoaxer is to head for the underground bunkers while I am advocating that people spend more time outdoors. We need an eye-to-eye talk with nature, which is both our guide and our goal.

    Our reason for growing vegetables is not to take them down to a bunker to eat when disaster strikes. It is quite simply what we need to be doing, i.e. looking after nature while she looks after us. When we finally get our act together, I’ll happily sleep on the beach

    I see this latest hoax as more distraction from that message. They've already got us cooped up in overhead bunkers, but apparently this is not good (bad) enough, they want us underground.

    We've got graveyards already thank you very much.


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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    I said “in the context of this thread”. Let me tell you why in any thread at all, bunkers are no answer: there happens to be a bunker-buster, sometimes called the aether!

    The painter Manet refused to follow his Impressionist friends outdoors to do open-air painting. It wasn’t that he was against the idea; on the contrary, he himself was tapping into the aether. He explained why he stayed in his studio: because you can do open-air painting indoors!

    The key idea behind underground bunkers is that you can get away from the life force. And the key idea behind the life force is that... you can’t!

    You can’t opt out, there is nowhere to go. But you’re welcome to try, that’s what free will is all about, and why the ultimate expression of free will is to abandon the notion altogether.


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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Hey United Serenity,
    So basically, NASA doesn't want to panic anyone NOW. My guess is that they'll reveal this fine piece of information only days before the devastation and people will STILL panic. So, either way, what would they have accomplished? Certainly not avoiding the panic. My guess is it's the NOT ALLOWING people to prepare that's the bottom line.... If you've ever watched the scifi movies, that's how they always did it to the people. The president sits up in his office withholding this knowledge for months, suddenly he gets a conscience and televises this devastating news, wishing them God speed. Ah, the movies.....they imitate reality, don't they?

    I think this is just another prediction.... As with all predictions, even aliens can't predict the future with 100% accuracy.... Too many changing variables.
    I personally believe that we have too many "outside" interferences as it is to evolve on our own. We could be so much farther along if not for all the interferences.... Regressive aliens want to deevolve us as much as possible. If all the information I've discovered is true, then Earth is infested with these Regressives right now..... If we're getting warnings, then it would be that we're already in danger from those.

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    @nanoo nanoo

    a flashlight?! Think big, man: we have a sun, it ain't broke, get out and get some vitamin D

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...-sphere-nature

    alternate leaders?! Think small, man: do your own leading, if anyone wants to follow, they will. Just do it
    Yes i love the sun , i sun gaze most days of the week. Perhaps i have not explained myself well. Subterranian housing is a more energy efficient and safer way of housing. It can make use of geo thermal activity and can be more cost effective. Its safer in general and less exposed to the elements. Its a smart and progressive evolution to housing. And while we are still blessed with a beautiful atmosphere we can go out and enjoy it still.

    So yes i certainly agree with you : 0 ) but perhaps my point should deserve some more consideration ?

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    You might agree with me, but I certainly don’t agree with you

    In the context of this thread, your reaction to a hoaxer is to head for the underground bunkers while I am advocating that people spend more time outdoors. We need an eye-to-eye talk with nature, which is both our guide and our goal.

    Our reason for growing vegetables is not to take them down to a bunker to eat when disaster strikes. It is quite simply what we need to be doing, i.e. looking after nature while she looks after us. When we finally get our act together, I’ll happily sleep on the beach

    I see this latest hoax as more distraction from that message. They've already got us cooped up in overhead bunkers, but apparently this is not good (bad) enough, they want us underground.

    We've got graveyards already thank you very much.
    Im sorry to see you have missed my point. I dont know any other way to explain it.

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    If you really want some scientific "evidence" of what is going on this is worth listening to
    Coast to coast Am interview of the founder of the Horizon project.
    Not for the faint hearted.
    It has been posted on Avalon already.
    Includes information on possible physical pole shift and evidence of previous ones and the cause.

    From my perspective apart from heading away from the coast and to higher ground the answer is improve ones relationship with the Creator under any name you care to give.
    Real information from scientists may be scary but its not fear porn.
    The Mayns and others say the main truth is that we are in for a change of consciousness and not to worry we will be ok.
    Time will tell.

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    100% sure we will be ok. No sentient race is allowed to be wiped out.

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    I couldn't help but have another look at the pictures of Sal Conti and Frank Vidal. It is true that they look and sound similar, but the shape of their heads are quite different, the lines on their hands are very different, their eyebrows are arched differently and have different widths, their ears are shaped differently, Conti has rounder eyes and an extra fold on his eyelids, Vidal's nose is slightly wider and more triangular, Vidal's upper lip is a bit thinner, Conti has a dimple or scar near his mouth, and his skin hangs more loosely from his face...the skin appears thinner. Also, the bridge on Conti's nose is taller than Vidal's. Probably shouldn't open this can of worms again, but this really looks like two different men to me. Also, I hear children and kitchen noises in the background of Conti's video.

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    OMG = are we STILL moaning on about this... YAWN!!! Puhlease let it go.... He was a stooge/fake - there may be something in it - but it's FEAR propaganda - give it a rest please.
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    OMG = are we STILL moaning on about this... YAWN!!! Puhlease let it go.... He was a stooge/fake - there may be something in it - but it's FEAR propaganda - give it a rest please.
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    If you are not interested, don't read the posts. Was your response to me really necessary? Just ignore it and me as I ignore things that don't interest me. It is only fear propaganda if it actually scares people. I don't think anyone was ever afraid of this dude's message because it is so out there and does come across as BS, at least partially in his delivery. In my opinion the supposed Conti is a is a mystery and his face does not match Vidal's and I want to know more about the who and why beyond the video even if it is a fraud. I want to know, like, who does this? And why is he specifically considered a fraud while people spout off about being aliens themselves and talking to aliens and ghost and all sorts of wild stuff and that just gets blindly accepted. How is Conti different? If you look closely, the features of his head and hands are indeed different and it bothers me.

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    Man.. i watched today the first movie, then the apology one, and i really think, they are not the same... for me the best evidence is the ears, they are different, in the first movie, they almost hide when he looks in front, on the apology one not.

    Then, the mole, then, and more important, its the spirit of the emotion, i mean, personality, they are very different, for me , and in the first video, he looks to be a calm person, etc, etc, and on the second, looks agitated, etc, like,.. its 2 different persons..
    Perhaps, they could be cousins, or something, but for me they are not the same.

    The only thing that i doubt frm the first man, (first video), is the way he looks in the viewer eyes, like, they hav experience in video blogging, and know where to look. if it was me, i would look around the room while talking, and not looking right in the "eye" of the camera, to match viewers perspective of a true person talking to you, and that fact for me, tell me he could be expert , (and actor) ... but anyway i still think they somehow are not the same, because many features of the face dont match.

    But also, peculiar is the nasa mission to studdy the radiation belt.. and alot of evidence.. he talks about. the 331 numer, for me, was a weird number, in detail to 33 (a masonic number..).

    And, i believe living underground, is not that bad, i imagine ,we can creat wonders even underwground , with made nature, and plants, and artificial sun. Its all about confort, and clima, nature simulation. which i believe its possible to build, and easly adaptabe, to ilve there.

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    I couldn't help but have another look at the pictures of Sal Conti and Frank Vidal. It is true that they look and sound similar, but the shape of their heads are quite different, the lines on their hands are very different, their eyebrows are arched differently and have different widths, their ears are shaped differently, Conti has rounder eyes and an extra fold on his eyelids, Vidal's nose is slightly wider and more triangular, Vidal's upper lip is a bit thinner, Conti has a dimple or scar near his mouth, and his skin hangs more loosely from his face...the skin appears thinner. Also, the bridge on Conti's nose is taller than Vidal's. Probably shouldn't open this can of worms again, but this really looks like two different men to me. Also, I hear children and kitchen noises in the background of Conti's video.
    Well on one hand I am bored about the fact that we are still discussing about this.

    However if you have an imaginative mind like me you always can think of a scenario that makes it interesting again.
    How about this ... They are different characters but the actor admitted he was actually playing the scientist ?
    Could it be that they used the actor to debunk a legit real testimony of a real scientist ?
    In a way it could make sense ... so is the final word on this spoken yet ?

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    I was poking around an academic database. I found reference to an S. Conti in several peer-reviewed calculus and applied mathematics and computer engineering journals. That makes me wonder too. I am slowly digging through the paper trails. I just want to know if this Sal Conte the scientist is a real dude.

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    There's something that makes me to be on the fence with this information, Dr. Sal says that the messages take 331 days to traverse the space between their planet or area in space to get to earth but according to quantum physics and if their technology is so advanced, I'd say this is waaaay too long. If they are so advanced as to know or foresee what is going to happen in our planet even though they are so far away, how come the communication is not faster?
    Besides, why would they be interested in looking at the future of a planet that perhaps it's not related to them? What would have made them interested or curious about us?
    Maybe they have to use the same technology platform we are using and that is whats causing the delays.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Seeing the way this entire thread unfolded, I can't believe that this is still being discussed....

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    As I am sensitive to people and just from judging the eyes and the voice of this guy in the video, I think he is a liar. I trust my instinct totally. I watched a few minutes and couldn't even hear the words he spoke. I think lying convincibly is very hard if even possible. This guy is some sort of an mytomaniac or worse.

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    100% sure we will be ok. No sentient race is allowed to be wiped out.

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    One would have to wonder why more than 7 billion souls, many of them (us) having witnessed cataclysmic destruction in the ancient past, would incarnate here just in time for all this fun and festivity.

    Mass demonic blood sacrifice to the Reptilian Overlords?

    Or a quantum leap for humanity towards Godhood?

    We are in control of our own destiny here, and that's why the information is suppressed by the Elite. The key is to be aware of who you are as a spirit inhabiting a biological vehicle and not fear death. It only takes a very small percentage of people shining their light to overcome the darkness. We will find a way out of this, and the key is for mankind to discover that he creates his own reality with his collective mind.
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