Discuss: Are we helping those who we want to defeat, to defeat us?

[cloud9]

Here we go for a second round..... because the first one was not enough. A new thread about Dr. Sal's video and discussion.

Why is it so hard for us to understand that once we are conscious about something or think about it, we create it or bring it to our reality.

Have you ever thought that using the power of fear, the ones that rule the planet use it so they can bring their plans to fruition?

If thousands or perhaps millions of people think of or are afraid of something, what are the chances of it materializing? Don't you know about collective consciousness? What about the 100th monkey?

Have you ever pondered why so much danger has suddenly appeared in the last years that threaten to destroy our planet? I'm pretty sure there's a good reason for it.

The alternative community or truth movement, whatever you want to call it, has been waiting for humanity to wake up, yes, we have been also waiting for the 100th monkey so perhaps is it going to be who reaches the number first, the ones who work through fear and the ones that think they are "of the light".

Now, what it is "to wake up"? It seems to me that for many is to suddenly realize that the world is not what it used to be and everything in it is now really scary, it does not matter how much people say we are immortal and the good ETs are near, etc., there's still a lot to be afraid of including the destruction of our planet colliding with an asteroid, other planet or even a small sun and this is just one of the dangers we supposedly need to face.

Again, are you doing the best for ourselves creating or bringing all of this to our reality? What if we are helping those who we want to defeat, to defeat us? Just by being afraid or just worried.

Emotions are really powerful but fear is the big one.

I remember years ago I open a shoes store and suddenly all I could think of was shoes.... and I wasn't looking at people's faces anymore, all I wanted to see was shoes, never ever before in my live I had stared to people's shoes and now I did it all the time so that was my new environment and reality... you get my drift.

I'm asking to all Avalonians to discuss about this, I think it's important not just for us but for all humanity. Aren't we the ones that decide (I believe unconsciously) about our future? Aren't we co-creators? Shouldn't we be very careful about what we are doing?

I really hope this thread takes off or at least catches some attention. If you think we are responsible for our own future, please participate.

[Ultima Thule]

Spot on Cloud9!

We have been wasting our time and therefore creative energy (and stopping energy for that matter) following up on what ever it is that is the "catch of the month".
What David Icke has been saying: human race get off your knees. I second that.

We may have what ever things we have in our daily lives that may prevent us from raising up the barricades physically, but


THE VERY LEAST WE HOWEVER CAN AND MUST DO,

is claim our mind/power back!

Don´t give custody of your mind to whatever is the latest fuel for fear. Claim your mind back every second of every day, be coherent in what you think and create.


I think I´ll go a bit graphic, but with lyrics very fitting on this song by Accept - Balls to the Wall:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eSMZkF8JDuk

Lyrics:
Too many slaves in this world
Die by torture and pain
Too many people do not see
They're killing themselves - going insane

Too many people do not know
Bondage is over the human race
They believe slaves always lose
And this fear keeps them down

Watch the damned (God bless ya)
They're gonna break their chains (hey)
No, you can't stop them (God bless ya)
They're coming to get you
And then you'll get your

Balls to the wall, man
Balls to the wall
You'll get your balls to the wall, man
Balls to the wall - balls to the wall

You may screw their brains
You may sacrifice them, too
You may mortify their flesh
You may rape them all

One day the tortured stand up
And revolt against the evil
They make you drink your blood
And tear yourself to pieces

You better watch the damned (God bless ya)
They're gonna break their chains (hey)
No, you can't stop them (God bless ya)
They're coming to get you
And then you'll get your

Balls to the wall, man
Balls to the wall
You'll get your balls to the wall, man
Balls to the wall - balls to the wall

Come on man, let's stand up all over the world
Let's plug a bomb in everyone's arse
If they don't keep us alive - we're gonna fight for the right

Build a wall with the bodies of the dead - and you're saved
Make the world scared - come on, show me the sign of victory
Sign of victory - sign of victory

You better watch the damned (God bless ya)
They're gonna break their chains (hey)
No, you can't stop them (God bless ya)
They're coming to get you
And then you'll get your

Balls to the wall, man
Balls to the wall

UT

[applecrusher1992]

Beautifully written. I believe we create our own future based on what we want. If we want to believe in a future were the Earth is destroyed that'll come about. But if you believe we will make it through these times ahead into a more peaceful and prosperous human race like I believe that will be the future. I sure am not going to materialize a destroyed world in panic and fear and neither should anyone else. The future is yours, choose wisely.

[Nortreb]

Thanks for your message, cloud9! Your message is well timed and on POINT!

From my perspective, we are experiencing the alleged veil being lifted of the “Game of FEAR”. There is perhaps some truth in the latest information circulating as Bill recently pointed out.

My first thought is that maybe they want to feed their own fear to the masses so they can use this energy to try to extend the enslavement game for another cycle. Everything is pointed toward the “Power of the Sovereign Individual”. This was cleverly taken away thousands of years ago. Maybe what is supposedly coming is already here and we just have to strap up and take it!

Your message also made me think of the books written by George Green ("Handbook for a New Paradign", "Embracing the Rainbow", "Becoming" and "Message for the Ground Crew" that I read 3 years ago. There is a lot of thought provoking information in these books that appears to point to what we are experiencing at this very moment.

4 Universal Laws:
1. Law of Attraction – Like attracts Like!
2. Law of Deliberate Intent – Place your intent beyond the 5 senses, and place it into the creation of a new experience.
3. Law of Allowance – Personal Responsibility – We are responsible for choosing our own experiences and not responsible for the experience of others.
4. Law of Balance – The “Now” is the balancing point between the Past and Future.

It is my feeling that we are dealing in real time to create our own reality. This is not a drill. It is time to walk the walk!

Nortreb

[Calz]

I had the same thought regarding this:

MITCHELL COOMBES; FOREWARNED OF JAPAN TSUNAMI...NOW FOREWARNS CALIFORNIAN TSUNAMI/WW3..

Consider ... going on the assumption he really did post a 104 hour warning about the Japan tsunami publicly ... how is it this person is still able to continue to post (let alone live)???

Could it be that to pull off the next big "events" enough of "we the people" are needed to help create it???

Hmmmm.

[we-R-one]

Exactly what I'm thinkin' Cloud9. Go back to Bill's thread and read my post #56, as I think you'll appreciate it, as will those who agree with you here. I was just typing a somewhat similar comment when you started this thread. See below:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...075#post539075

Unbelievable the amount of time spent on this no-name, who really isn't sharing anything new IMO. I'm disappointed that Avalon members, who should know better, put so much of their focus on the very energy that's enslaving them.

[modwiz]

It's about the choices we make. They are the path we walk into the future. What we buy daily, and hourly, creates much of the reality in this money driven world. Of course, these choices source from within us. The question is, who, or what, is the source of these drives?

Programming? TV? Magazines? Newspapers? Fear porn?

How many original thoughts do we really own? Most opinions are chosen from without us and not from our own deductions.
If one is honest with oneself that is.

there's still a lot to be afraid of including the destruction of our planet colliding with an asteroid, other planet or even a small sun and this is just one of the dangers we supposedly need to face.

If it happens it happens. That's where the being immortal stuff works best. Let's you ignore what you can do nothing about, because it doesn't really matter..........today. There is only today, and now, to work with.

[K626]

Posted by modwiz (here)
It's about the choices we make. They are the path we walk into the future. What we buy daily, and hourly, creates much of the reality in this money driven world. Of course, these choices source from within us. The question is, who, or what, is the source of these drives.

Programming? TV? Magazines? Newspapers? Fear porn?

How many original thoughts do we really own? Most opinions are chosen from without us and not from our own deductions.
If one is honest with oneself that is.

A lot of people aren't aware that some of the ideas they hold dear were given to them by elements covert or otherwise of the mass culture and it's programming.

K

[jackovesk]

Within this debate, its essential to understand your own psyche...

Meaning that tight-rope of internal voices constantly throwing us all (Off Balance) due to the everyday 'Propaganda Barrage' coming from Big Govt./Corporations & the MSM...

Bang, Bang, Bang - One after the other, its literally 'Non-Stop' (and They Will Never Give Up) if you are still on the grid and still enjoy watching a little TV, read a Newspaper or listen to the Radio every now & then...

What to do..? Its quite simple...

Acknowledge it and Discard It and don't let it Dominate your thought process..!

In other words 'I Feel Empowerd' by knowing the 'Truth' and 'The Good, The Bad and The Ugly' of it all only has a Grip on you if you let it...

I look at (ALL) the Criminal Politicians across the world and literally 'Take their Power Away' by acknowledging what they have to say and then saying to myself...

I SEE YOU - I SEE THE LIES - I SEE YOUR CORRUPTION - I SEE YOUR PROPAGANDA

You can literally feel the 'Negative Energy' they are forcing upon you draining out of your body and back onto them...

I SEE THEM (ALL) and THEY HAVE LITERALLY 'NO POWER' OVER ME WHATSOVER...

No doubt, some here know what I'm talking about (I Hope) and when your 'Knowledge' is transferred to others and they start SEEING too, its only a matter of time before we have a 'Mass Consciousnous Awakening' which is growing second by second - day by day - year by year...

So ya SEE, the PTW/Elite & their Fear-Based Control System can NEVER win...

PS - Some of you will understand this message & some of you won't...

But that's OK...

[David Trd1]

Posted by modwiz (here)

there's still a lot to be afraid of including the destruction of our planet colliding with an asteroid, other planet or even a small sun and this is just one of the dangers we supposedly need to face.

If it happens it happens. That's where the being immortal stuff works best. Let's you ignore what you can do nothing about, because it doesn't really matter..........today. There is only today, and now, to work with.

Too true,our truth lies in the now and no-where else.


Also Jackovesk--WORD!!!

[Eric J (Viking)]

Thanks Cloud...A very timely thread indeed ...

Don't buy into everything that's on offer ... Take on your own thoughts and project the reality you want...yes I agree with Modwiz...how many thoughts are our own, but you can counteract this with a flow of postitive consciousness...

A thread I wrote a little while ago...please take your time to read...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...are-the-change

A very simple essay of how our reality has been moulded over the years...

Thanks again Cloud...we need more of this.

viking

[The Truth Is In There]

well, it seems i'm not a co-creator or the world would have been wiped clean already. nevertheless i don't give up and concentrate hard on dec 21st.

[RunningDeer]

When we buy into the group illusion, we give permission for “the them” to use our power against us. Actuality, they just provide the backdrop and sit back to watch the show. We are our own Visual Artists, so let’s create.

(Yawn, have I stated the obvious?)

[Fred Steeves]

Powerful thread topic cloud9, nice one. Anyone who wants to continue deep diving the latest rabbit hole, have at it I say. It's a free will universe, and I've done my fair share of that as well. If that's what you feel you should be doing, then that's what you're supposed to be doing at this time. It's all good.

There's a much bigger show in town however, but it's not all sexy and dangerous sounding, with cloak and dagger type implications. It's the opportunity to explore/remember the outer limits of our consciousness, and then don't look back from there. If you're attending THIS show, then lights out, it's game over.

Cheers,
Fred

[doodah]

Thanks for this reminder, cloud9. Those of us who "know" these things are not always expert at practicing them. There are many years of programming hiding underneath; they keep creeping back, even here.

To come back around to this understanding is perhaps part of the point of this whole exercise, as in meditation when you find yourself drifting off into random thoughts... you bring yourself back to the present and sit quietly again.

ON THE OTHER HAND: There are many empaths here. On this planet at this time, that characteristic may be more debilitating than helpful. It's very difficult to NOT respond to the obvious harm being done. It's difficult to NOT want to help (which is what some people here do by providing information).

We work within many different spheres of our awareness, when we remember to be aware. We can play different roles, knowing we are playing them. For instance, in Bill's followup thread, I've been trying to get people down to the nitty-gritty of real likelihoods and probabilities, but everyone is having too much fun talking about all the potential ways we can be annihilated. The "science" involved is pretty much just guesstimates, but if I can get them to tell me what the greatest likelihood is, that would narrow down the fear factor to something more manageable, don't you think? That's the role I'm trying to play there but mostly everyone is ignoring me so far.

[ulli]

Thoughts are important, but writing one's wishes down works even better.
It anchors the wish and protects it from one's own mood swings.
People have been known to change their minds.
Ok, here goes:
My wish is that all those who are in extreme despair because of hunger, ill health, injury, poverty and homelessness
can find food, health, healing, mobility and a roof over their heads.

My other wish is that all those who have extreme wealth and power provide food, shelter and Internet access to the above group start doing so now. As a voluntary act.

There can never be total equality, but the extremes of wealth and poverty must be eliminated and replaced by a more middle class humanity where all have access to food, shelter, education and freedom of thought.

O shoot, come to think of it...Avalon will become obsolete with such a scenario.

[Peace of Mind]

Yes cloud9. This is precisely the problem and solution. If we can be more mindful about the material we digest we will be in a better position to deal with any issue. It seems to be a normal occurrence for people to dwell on the negatives. They cross examine, re-examine, discuss and then scrutinize some more….unaware of the energy they give to the issues... whether they support the claims or not. In my observation the masses seem to be addicted to doom and gloom, often spending much time on the subjects (feeding it energy). Just imagine if the same amount of energy was spent on something constructive! If threats of any kind have no concrete evidence they are most likely fabrications and/or dis-info to purposely mis-lead and confuse people. Surely you/we know by now what follows. I for one am truly glad to see this realization.

Peace

[Kindred]

We keep coming back to this concept, time and time again. It is THE most important aspect of 'our control'... to keep us 'looking out', rather than Looking Inward.

I'm fully aware of 'what they're doing'... I'm not buying into it anymore by Not Paying Attention To Any Of It...

This is the primary reason I've stopped reading virtually All the 'Warnings'... who's doing what, what's going to 'manifest'... etc, etc. The majority of it is Solely to keep us 'Looking Out', In Fear.

I'm concentrating on the future I wish to Manifest. Projects to learn and grow, or produce benefits, maintaining a routine founded in helping others as best I may. Giving NO power to 'them'. MEDITATING

Yes... I Know 'what they're doing'. But... What Am I Doing? THAT'S the Real question.

"BE the change you wish to see in the world"

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

[Revere]

Studies have proven that our Intention affects reality to a statistical certainty. The interesting part around many of these studies is that various governmental agencies where overtly involved in the early days of their inception. They have not forgotten. The PTB knows of this reality. So, IMO much of what we see circulating around is for their various purposes. How easy to use the masses to promote their agenda!

We must step back from the insistent fear exploration I see hear and everywhere in society. Are we our own worst enemy as we are focus from fear topic to fear topic? I think it is a possibility. Can we take a break from running down every ludicrous fear claim? I hope so, or we may be a part of its fruition. Take responsibility as your conscious leads. If you feel so moved Intend something positive daily. The rest of this reality may depend on it.

My daily favorite is:

May all humanity achieve its potential, in a world of abundance, health, happiness and individual freedom; as we live in harmony with you God, your planet and all of creation, and while we work in responsible service to each other out of Love.

Peace all,
-R-

[genevieve]

Revere--

Love your daily intention. Here's another (from Chris Thomas):

I choose to add my energies to those of the Earth in order to
overcome the energies that oppose human soul reintegration.

Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
Genevieve