UK threatens to 'assault' Ecuador embassy to arrest Assange

[Cidersomerset]

Update on Julian Assange case.......

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Published on 15 Aug 2012 by AlJazeeraEnglish


The fate of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange could be known as early as Thursday. He is still
holed up in London's Ecuadorean embassy, seeking asylum. Ecuador's Foreign Minister says
the UK has threatened to enter the embassy and arrest Assange. Al Jazeera's Renee Odeh has the details.

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Published on 16 Aug 2012 by RussiaToday
Britain's Foreign Office says Julian Assange will be denied safe passage out of the country - even if he's granted asylum by Ecuador - LIVE UPDATES



THE GUARDIAN ON LINE.......

Julian Assange Ecuador embassy row - live coverage

Get the latest news and reaction as WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange awaits a decision on his application for asylum and a diplomatic row brews between UK and Ecuador

http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/...live&cat=media

1.41pm:
Patino adds:


We can state that there is a risk that he will be persecuted politically...

We trust the UK will offer the necessary guarantees so that both governments can act adequately and properly respect international rights and the right of asylum.

We also trust the excellent relationship the two countries have will continue.
1.38pm:
Asylum is granted

Ecuador is to grant political asylum to Julian Assange, says Patino.

[wynderer]

dog & pony show -- re USA assaults on Central & South America, check out the history of all those countries whose People attempted to elect a true leader, esp in the last 50-60 yrs, & my country's part in putting a stop to that right quick

[Cidersomerset]

dog & pony show -- re USA assaults on Central & South America, check out the history of all those countries whose People attempted to elect a true leader, esp in the last 50-60 yrs, & my country's part in putting a stop to that right quick

I know Wynderer its been going on for decades.....I know you saw this thread I put up the other day, but the CIA and the economic hitmen have been meddling with up and coming countries /economies
as part of the TPTB agenda. Taking over from the 19th century imperial powers, the same families have just changed suits and countries !!

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...p-the-world---

[wynderer]

yes -- as they used to say, 'It's a rum go, matey!'

you seem to share my interest in history -- it seems to me that the centuries -old [if not millenial -old] plan for complete control of planet Earth began to pick up speed up in the late 1800s, & then began snowballing w/WWII

i always check out your threads -- interesting topics always -- thanks

wyn

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)

dog & pony show -- re USA assaults on Central & South America, check out the history of all those countries whose People attempted to elect a true leader, esp in the last 50-60 yrs, & my country's part in putting a stop to that right quick

I know Wynderer its been going on for decades.....I know you saw this thread I put up the other day, but the CIA and the economic hitmen have been meddling with up and coming countries /economies
as part of the TPTB agenda. Taking over from the 19th century imperial powers, the same families have just changed suits and countries !!

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...p-the-world---

[Cidersomerset]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mz2xLg1IvRo

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[Billy]

Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, has been granted political asylum by Ecuador.
http://news.uk.msn.com/live-updates/...nge-asylum-row

• Mr Assange said being granted political asylum by Ecuador was a "significant victory"
• The Foreign Office said the UK will carry out their "binding obligation" to extradite Mr Assange
• The Australian national hopes to avoid extradition to Sweden where he faces sex assault allegations, which he denies
• The Swedish Foreign Ministry says it has summoned Ecuador's ambassador over the decision

She said there was practically no precedent for the situation, invoking the case of a Hungarian cardinal Jozsef Mindszenty, who camped out at the U.S. Embassy in Budapest from 1956 to 1971.

"One can't see Mr. Assange doing the same thing," she told BBC television. "One side will have to back down eventually."
by Natalie Thomas, Press... 3:39 PM
"We're at something of an impasse," extradition lawyer Rebecca Niblock said shortly after the news broke. "The U.K. government will arrest Julian Assange as soon as he sets foot outside the embassy but it's very hard as well to see the Ecuadorean government changing their position."
by Natalie Thomas, Press... 3:39 PM
Mr Assange's recognition as a political refugee by Ecuador's leftist government was a big symbolic victory for the embattled ex-hacker, but it did little to answer the question: "How will he ever leave the embassy?"
by Natalie Thomas, Press... 3:38 PM
Stockholm Foreign Ministry spokesman Anders Jorle said Thursday, "We want to tell them that it's inacceptable that Ecuador is trying to stop the Swedish judicial process."
by Natalie Thomas, Press... 3:27 PM
The decision to grant Mr Assange asylum may interrupt British efforts to extradite the Australian ex-hacker to Sweden, where he is wanted for questioning on sexual misconduct allegations. Assange is currently hold up in Ecuador's embassy in London
by Natalie Thomas, Press... 3:31 PM

more updates here. http://news.uk.msn.com/live-updates/...nge-asylum-row

[wynderer]

i still think it's dog & pony show -- in light of , say, Agenda 21

[Corncrake]

I am ashamed of the UK's bully boy tactics. As for Julian Assange ... where does he go from here?

[sdv]

If I remember correctly, Assange was interviewed by the police in Sweden about these allegations, and then was allowed to leave the country by Swedish authorities. There are still no formal charges against him, and no new evidence that changes the situation at the time he was questioned at all, and I don't see how further interviews with him can be useful in any way under the circumstances.

Shame on the UK government. Did you know that the UK is harbouring someone wanted for murder in another country and they have rebuffed all efforts from that country to have this UK citizen extradited to stand trial (for the murder of his wife, for which there is enough evidence for formal charges, and for which the penalty if found guilty is not execution)? Hippocritical double standards.

Shame on those two women in Sweden. Maybe they need to step into the real world and find out what rape actually is and see what happens when a baby gets raped (full-on penetration from a fully grown man - it happens every day).

Should we get together and send food parcels to Assange?

[Davidallany]

Posted by Corncrake (here)
I am ashamed of the UK's bully boy tactics. As for Julian Assange ... where does he go from here?

The truth is that all governments do not represent the so called it's citizens. It's not what a government can do for a citizen but rather how to manipulate, consume and utilize a citizen to serve a government.

[Cidersomerset]

If I remember correctly, Assange was interviewed by the police in Sweden about these allegations, and then was allowed to leave the country by Swedish authorities. There are still no formal charges against him, and no new evidence that changes the situation at the time he was questioned at all, and I don't see how further interviews with him can be useful in any way under the circumstances.

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This is wierd but each country have different systems .......It explains
some of the confusion. But still odd is it a crime or not !! seems political
though the Lawyer denies it...If the women feel they were raped or
molested of course this is serious, but again sounds odd !!!

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comment from poster....

Uploaded by ElectricKafa on 9 Dec 2010


Borgström defended the alleged serial killer Thomas Quick very badly, he just wanted the money and he has friends in higher places. He is a good friend of the Assange prosecutor Marianne Ny! Both are politicians - Social Democrat Party of Sweden. They are only interested in votes & fame.

From Swedish magazines:
Something that should also be called into question is the influence of Quick's solicitor Claes Borgström in getting his mentally ill client convicted of multiple murders without a shred of evidence.

Someone who is especially to blame for what happened is our current equality minister Claes Borgström who took on the case after Quick's first solicitor. Richly compensated with taxpayer money for several years, Claes Borgström failed to look after the best interests of his mentally disturbed client.

Claes Borgström did not want to respond to the criticism directed at him for his representation of Thomas Quick but he'll get another chance. And how will the Swedish bar association rule that a defence solicitor should behave when a mentally ill client wants to confess to crimes he's not committed?

[ED209]

My heart goes out to Julian Assange. I have so much respect and sympathy for him.

[Bill Ryan]

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In the Ecuadorian newspaper El Telégrafo this morning:

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[Cidersomerset]

Fro The Guardian On line....

5.28pm:
William Hague, the foreign secretary, has made it clear that Britain will not give Assange safe passage to South America. He told a press conference:



We will not allow Mr Assange safe passage out of the United Kingdom, nor is there any legal basis for us to do so. The United Kingdom does not recognise the principle of diplomatic asylum.

More when we have it....

5.36pm:
Hague denied there was any "threat" to the Ecuadorean embassy. He said:


This could go on for some considerable time.



Lizzy Davies

guardian.co.uk, Thu 16 Aug 2012 10.14 BST





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5.46pm:

Diplomatic asylum is not a concept recognised by Britain- and even for those countries which do recognise it, it should not be used "for the purposes of escaping" the courts, he said.



We will not allow Mr Assange safe passage out of the United Kingdom, nor is there any legal basis for us to do so. The United Kingdom does not recognise the principle of diplomatic asylum.

It is far from a universally accepted concept: the United Kingdom is not a party to any legal instruments which require us to recognise the grant of diplomatic asylum by a foreign embassy in this country.

Moreover, it is well established that, even for those countries which do recognise diplomatic asylum, it should not be used for the purposes of escaping the regular processes of the courts. And in this case that is clearly what is happening.

http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/...live&cat=media
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[Cidersomerset]

Julians mother on RT ......Reminds me of Janis Sharp Gary McKinnons mother , gives her thoughts on her son....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lFhxf3rxj3Q

Published on 2 Aug 2012 by RTAmerica


While Julian Assange is awaiting Ecuador's decision on his appeal for political asylum, his mother Christine has traveled to the country to discuss her son's fate with President Rafael Correa.

[Bill Ryan]

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Astonishing stand-off. If the Ecuadorians lifted him out of the building by helicopter to drop him off on an Ecuadorian Navy vessel in international waters, would this start a shooting war?

[Cidersomerset]

Astonishing stand-off. If the Ecuadorians lifted him out of the building by helicopter to drop him off on an Ecuadorian Navy vessel in international waters, would this start a shooting war?

The CIA would probably send a hit/snatch squad to Equador.....But the chances of the Equadorians getting a helicoptor to a off shore craft I would say is nil ....The only way out has to be political...
The most sensible course would be for Sweden to arrange for a interview at the embassy.Which so far Sweden has refused to do ,If Swedish prosecutors could show that their case
was sound then Equador may allow Julian to go to Sweden but they may seek assurances from the international community that the US should not be able to extradite him.
Which is why Julian fled to the embassy in the first place!!

The other option is for the CIA to do their old trick and cause dissent within Equador....They have plenty of dirty money and experiance with this as the vid in the link of
post 3 explains.....Certainly not the end of the story !!

[Molope]

Still they coud caugh him on International Waters or kill him on Ecuadoria Territory whith Drones,Seal Teams or even poisoned who knows when USA wants someone dead they really do everything.

[Magnus]

It's so incredibly disgusting to witness how sovereign states of the world commit treason to it's people by surrendering to the will of the U.S. government, and doing so at the slightest hint from the U.S., acting like wuss-a** marionettes.

I'm indeed not proud of the country to wich i belong.

Ecuador is doing a very admirable deed!

[Cidersomerset]

British officials tried 'Bully Boy' threats to stop Equador from granting assylum !!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KU2gDGY43Zg

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Interresting quote from Guardian on line...

7.45pm:
An interesting solution to the Assange standoff from his friend Tariq Ali, who suggests that Ecuador make Assange a citizen,
and then appoint him as an attaché to the embassy, therefore giving him diplomatic immunity.

I'm listening to channel 4 news and there Lawyer says the British government has to aprove
foriegn diplomats so Tariq Ali suggestion above is a none starter....They also pointed out
the cost of keeping police at the front and back exits 24/7, seems a waste of British Tax
payers money.Still the Polititions don't worry about that !!


There is a statement by William Haig British Foreign secretary on link if you can get it,,,

http://www.channel4.com/news/foreign...sange-decision


Also from Guardian...

8.14pm:
Extradition expert Anand Doobay has just put paid to Tariq Ali's idea that Assange become a member of embassy staff in order to avoid arrest:
to be a diplomat in the UK, you must be accredited by the government.