UK threatens to 'assault' Ecuador embassy to arrest Assange

[Nickolai]

I have found that by Googling this sl*t, Anna Ardin:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/0...user-cia-ties/
I have no idea if this story is true but the whole "rape" stuff seems to be a phantasy.

Nickolai

[Magnus]

Posted by Nickolai (here)
I have found that by Googling this sl*t, Anna Ardin:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/0...user-cia-ties/
I have no idea if this story is true but the whole "rape" stuff seems to be a phantasy.

Nickolai

Just a small note:
Being a sl*t is a personal free choice of lifestyle wich we should detach from this plot.

What the actual "rape-victim" is involved in, is foul play at a deep level.

[Nickolai]

By the way don't you have a slight feeling that that is kind of turning point? Just a thought. If British start anything aggressive now, well, this will quickly move us to a different page of a history so to speak.

Just a thought...

[Nickolai]

Dear Magnus,

My fault. And you are right. She is not. But she is predator who uses the "rape" to cover the real truth.
For the very first time I have seen her photo and I was astonished. I would better believe that she had tried to rape Julian.

This woman actually has no profile on the Facebook. And on Twitter. Alas, for I would write her something...((

Baaad woman!

[Marsila]

Well this whole thing is an insult to real rape victims whose problems go beyond a cheap quality condom breaking with a person this lady looks like she couldn't wait to jump into the bed with!

But hmmmm....wonder if the Eurozones economic problems have anything to do with the more than frequent problems arising between it's members and different countries in South America of late....this is probably just going to be used as an excuse for something even bigger and more malicious towards resource rich Latin American countries if not contained intelligently.

[Nickolai]

Just a pfantasy, Marsila!

The UK gets the Assange. Equador breaks any connections with the UK. South America breaks any connections with the Kingdom, America and so on.
Russia, China join the South American countries and ... voila... New World Order.

That was sillly..

[Marsila]

LOL Nickolai...i think it is way much more complicated than that.

Amazing how "Swedish" 'authorities' kept refusing online interviews with Assange, and refused to answer an Ecuadorian request to learn more about the 'case' yet had the nerves to summon the Ecuadorian ambassador today after this?


http://rt.com/news/ecuador-decides-assange-fate-813/

[araucaria]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Astonishing stand-off. If the Ecuadorians lifted him out of the building by helicopter to drop him off on an Ecuadorian Navy vessel in international waters, would this start a shooting war?

They'll find a more discreet way than that, I hope - maybe in a diplomatic bag, disguised as someone else, or through a secret tunnel to the Venezualan embassy, who knows.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out once he's on the other side...

[rmauersr]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Astonishing stand-off. If the Ecuadorians lifted him out of the building by helicopter to drop him off on an Ecuadorian Navy vessel in international waters, would this start a shooting war?

They'll find a more discreet way than that, I hope - maybe in a diplomatic bag, disguised as someone else, or through a secret tunnel to the Venezualan embassy, who knows.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out once he's on the other side...

Those of us who wish to support Julian and his work can show our appreciation by surrounding Julian and ourself with white light.

I'll start by getting quiet, shifting attention from my head chakras to my heart chakra and affirm "In joy, safety and harmony we step into the unknown". Then I'll notice whatever shows up, if anything.

[Molope]

If Julian puts an step outside the embasy even in a ecuatorian vehicle he will fall on UK Hands...so the problem now is that his only way is going out secrely which is....quite difficult IMO.

[Nick Matkin]

Could he not leave in a Diplomatic Bag? There are agreements that these bags are not searched.

Anyway, despite the title of this thread: "Mr Hague [Foreign Secretary] said there was 'no threat' to storm the embassy" says the BBC, so it must be true.

[nottelling]

Nah, the only way I can see it happening is if he doesn't touch British soil at all between the embassy and his escape aircraft.

Here's one way -

Ecuadorian embassy has a locally-chartered helicopter placed on its list of Embassy vehicles. Said helo picks up Assange with either a caving ladder or a rescue sling.

The helicopter takes him to the airport and deposits him on the wing of an Ecuadorian VIP aircraft.

Of course the UK .gov only has to deny the helicopter's filed flight plan and the evil plot would be foiled before it began, but no doubt the news cameras would love such an escape and at the end of the day, that's what it's all about.

[sandy]

Well with any smarts they would have whisked him off a day or two before making the unofficial announcement, never mind the official announcement>>>>>>>>otherwise I will continue watching to see what all this game entails

I must say though, hats of to small countries like Iceland and Equator for standing up to the bullying tactics of tptb.

[Cidersomerset]

Well with any smarts they would have whisked him off a day or two before making the unofficial announcement, never mind the official announcement>>>>>>>>otherwise I will continue watching to see what all this game entails

I must say though, hats of to small countries like Iceland and Equator for standing up to the bullying tactics of tptb.

Hi Sandy , I think it was a spur of the momment decision, a week or so earlier Julian interviewed president of Equador on RT and the door was opened for Julian to seek assylum.
The vibes from his court case must have been negative and he was becoming desperate with all the psychological pressure on him. He also would not want to get the people
he was living with in anymore trouble as in aiding and abetting a escape. Remember they have all lost the money they put up for Julians Bail.

I do wonder if he still has his tag on ?

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvln3emd4NQ

Published on 20 Jun 2012 by journeymanpictures


During Assange's interview with President Correa for his series The World Tomorrow, the two men clearly struck up a bond. Was it during this interview that Assange first got the idea of claiming asylum from a sympathetic Ecuador?

Calling him "my dear Julian", the immediate rapport between Assange and President Correa is obvious. "Are you having fun with this interview Julian? Me too", Correa laughs. Discussion swirls around their mutual mistrust of the USA. "The last thing I'd be is anti-American, however I will call a spade a spade", asserts Correa, as he details his controversial and furious counter-offensive against US interests in Ecuador: after Wikileaks published damning US cables, Correa threw the US ambassador out of the country. "Wikileaks has made us stronger", the president insists. As the colourful interview draws to a close, Correa offers these heartfelt words of comfort to Assange: "Welcome to the club of the persecuted!"

[Cidersomerset]

This is amusing and very ironic for people of the cold war generation that the shoe is now on the other foot....
RT is now one of the most open news agencies !! There is still many problems in Russia and I am not deffending
that. But these Rich western 'Banksters' and Polititions are such hypicritical SH***s it makes me sick !!!!

Three excellent reports from RT reporters an guests !!!

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgrE80aE9Ag

Published on 16 Aug 2012 by RTAmerica


The Wikileaks founder's saga is nearly over: Julian Assange was granted asylum by Ecuador this morning after hiding out in the country's embassy in London for two months
while facing extradition to Sweden. But the picture wouldn't be complete without the reaction from the United States, who has accused the whistleblower for revealing some
secret information through the website. RT correspondent Marina Portnaya has more.


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Julian Does have high profile support !!

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B5gDfYf-Q0

Published on 16 Aug 2012 by RTAmerica


Julian Assange's story caused turmoil across the globe: while some praise him, the whistleblower has been hated by others for revealing ugly truths about the elites. RT's Ramon Galindo has an update about another group of high profile and influential people that are on Assange's side. He joins RT's Liz Wahl from Los Angeles.

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Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFMlrI_JyAc

Published on 16 Aug 2012 by RTAmerica


Julian Assange has been finally granted asylum by Ecuador after spending two months in the country's embassy in London. But British authorities threaten to arrest him as soon as leaves the embassy building. He has been facing sex crime charges in Sweden, but the more serious accusation was awaiting him in the US for publishing some inconvenient truths about the country's political tactics abroad. RT's Kristine Frazao has been following the story closely and brings the latest from the White House

[Cidersomerset]

Millions of humans have been imprisoned or killed over the centuries and many more still are.If imprisoned Julian will be in good company....They may create a Martyr for the digital age !!




Top 10 Famous Political Prisoners

The listing is irrelovent as all pursecution is deplorable but gives you some examples...

http://uptenlist.com/politics/top-10...cal-prisoners/

The first what we would call modern political concentration camps started during the Boar War.



http://southafrica-for-dummies.com/d...-south-africa/

Thru to the more familier camps in Nazi Germany , The Gulags of Soviet Russia
The Chinnese re-education camps and many other oppressive regimes have found
to murder their citizens.....Today this is still going on and there is a worrying trend
to what is being set up in the US with the FEMA camps !!

[araucaria]

Posted by sandy (here)
Well with any smarts they would have whisked him off a day or two before making the unofficial announcement, .

Maybe they did?

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

If Assange is a man of integrity he should spare the trouble for the People of Ecuador and turn himself in to the UK police. If he is not guilty of alleged rape accusation from Sweden women he will be fine. What is he afraid of? Safety of his body? There are countless ways of killing someone covertly. If they want him dead he would already be cold as a stone... Look what Breivik or Holmes did. They are alive, well and safe in the confines of police custody... No one tries to kill them for killing others. Would you think that Sweden wants to kill Assange for rape allegation? That is the reason he is going to be extradited to Sweden. To face rape allegations. If it has no legs his lawyers will easily pull him out of trouble.

Please Julian, don't be an as***ole. Take the responsibility for your own behavior and spare the trouble for the People of Ecuador.
Look at that this way: wikileaked information is out on the loose. Killing Assange body will not make that information disapear... And you can not kill a person. Only the body can be defeated. Not the person indwelling the body temporarily

[Ixopoborn]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Astonishing stand-off. If the Ecuadorians lifted him out of the building by helicopter to drop him off on an Ecuadorian Navy vessel in international waters, would this start a shooting war?

Indeed astonishing. I too have been watching this story very closely since it broke at the back end of 2010. A snippet of a protest letter I then sent to the Prime Minister's office follows:

However embarrassing it gets, the UK government should take no action to interfere with the freedom of Wikileaks to publish any information it receives.

The very future of democracy is in doubt unless the UK government now makes clear its unrestrained support for freedom of speech and freedom of expression including all that Wikileaks has and might in the future publish. Let the British government act proactively and be the first to announce new and improved standards of transparency in all diplomatic and international relations.

Now, the UK finds itself in a convenient bind, largely of its own making - it cant let Assange go to Ecuador without flagrantly breaking international law. For my taste, turning a blind eye to a helicopter escape does not quite cut it as a way out for the UK.

Who blinks first?

Will the USA pressurise the Ecuadorian government to back down? Very doubtful given the local media support indicated in one of Bill's earlier posts on this thread.

Will the Swedish government break the deadlock by sending 2 detectives to interview Assange inside the Ecuadorian embassy? Very doubtful given the fact that this easy and extremely cheap solution has been avoided like the plague by the Swedes all along.

Will the Ecuadorians make Assange a citizen of Ecuador and then appoint him as a diplomat to make it possible for an exit from the embassy untouched? Possibly - this would test the Brits severely but I dont think they would arrest Assange under these circumstances as it creates too much of a precedent for tit for tat type arrests of British diplomats in foreign countries.

Will Assange attempt a break out? Very unlikely - he is just way too smart to criminalise himself in that way - not unless mission success is 100% guaranteed.

Will public pressure cause the UK or Swedish government to back down? The realist in me says that public backing for Assange will not ever become big enough for this be realistically possible.

In the current paradigm, Assange is properly stuck inside the embassy. A shift in paradigm is something I want but is, lets face it, unlikely for at least 5 years. Will that mean Assange is stuck for 5 years or longer? - probably in my opinion.

Sweden has already broken all rules of common sense by spending vast sums on extradition proceedings all to pursue a matter which is not yet a chargeable crime! This simple fact is enough for me to be sure beyond doubt that the whole point of the extradition to Sweden is to enable extradition from there to the USA where a death penalty awaits Julian served on a plate.

The reason I watch this story so closely is that, to me, it is a "bell weather" test on how close we are to a shift in our paradigm. My comments above read very pessimistically insofar as that is concerned but I remain hopeful.

[Marsila]

Posted by sandy (here)
Well with any smarts they would have whisked him off a day or two before making the unofficial announcement, never mind the official announcement>>>>>>>>otherwise I will continue watching to see what all this game entails

I must say though, hats of to small countries like Iceland and Equator for standing up to the bullying tactics of tptb.

Hi Sandy, politics and diplomacy is a game, and I think the Ecuadorians are actually very smart, and were planning on welcoming Assange in their embassy for as long as he wishes or is possible, so as not to cause a diplomatic crisis with the US and the UK.

But that sudden 'we will invade your embassy' was none-expected, and so as Cidersomerset said, this was a spur of the moment decision, and also a tactic to display and remind the authorities in the UK that Ecuador is a sovereign country and not a colony, or an 'inferior' country compared to the UK.
i don't think this is anywhere near over though...