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    I'm afraid of lots of things. Sometimes even of crossing the road, especially when I'm in San Jose, capital of Costa Rica, where they drive like manics.
    Not so much in Barbados where they are so courteous that they stop the instance they see a white person approaching the curb.
    Little do they know that I'm not a tourist here.



    I'm also afraid of burglars, rapists, lawyers, dentists, undertakers, police and reptilians.
    But most of all I fear the great herd thinner above the clouds.

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    I do process my fears and intend not to get into new fears. But if I was afraid of anything, then of being weak and giving in to egotistical behaviour and of beauty being destroyed or not being able to unfold itself because of all this war and turmoil. Life is so hard for so many people here on earth, there is so much suffering and I'm afraid of not doing enough to help them or of being a cause for their continued suffering to some degree as I still am a part of the matrix in many ways. I don't wanna mindlessly give into attitudes and behavioural patters that help to perpetuate the current system, where people are meant to be enslaved and controlled. The struggle on earth is only getting more intense I feel, and I pray that I will be able to hold my balance and to support as many people as possible, to help to empower them so they can take care of themselves and of others.
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    Quote Posted by normam2 (here)
    To answer the question:

    I am afraid of never being satisfied with the answer to the question "Why there is a source/eternal consciousness at all? '

    Infinitude of possibilities that could have resulted out of 'nothingness' or it could have stayed as nothingness and yet here we are. WHY?? How can there even be 'space' in the 'nothingness" to be/expand/evolve??? How can you have the answer= space , before you formulate the question=birth of consciousness??

    IDK it just bugs me.Isabel
    normam2... I hope what I offer here is of some insight. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...308#post123308
    Please know that, while the words were typed by me... I did Not 'create' this item... I was Directed in doing so. I cannot put it any other way.

    There are forces beyond our limited comprehension, both for good (working For All), and 'evil' (working for the Ego). I do feel that one of the benefits of meditation, is that with the right Intention and Focus, one will be driven to The Light, and not the darkness.

    Be the change you wish to see in the World... (Gandhi)

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    Quote Posted by christian (here)
    I do process my fears and intend not to get into new fears. But if I was afraid of anything, then of being weak and giving in to egotistical behaviour and of beauty being destroyed or not being able to unfold itself because of all this war and turmoil. Life is so hard for so many people here on earth, there is so much suffering and I'm afraid of not doing enough to help them or of being a cause for their continued suffering to some degree as I still am a part of the matrix in many ways. I don't wanna mindlessly give into attitudes and behavioural patters that help to perpetuate the current system, where people are meant to be enslaved and controlled. The struggle on earth is only getting more intense I feel, and I pray that I will be able to hold my balance and to support as many people as possible, to help to empower them so they can take care of themselves and of others.
    Yes, I feel much as you do christian... and I also find myself doing much as gripreaper does when faced with that 'fear scenario'. Recognize the source of the fear, understand where is originates, and then process it. And, yes, the 'fight or flight' response is mostly 'automatic', and plays a significant part of day-to-day life. It's difficult to eliminate decades of programming, overnight.

    I do feel that we can 'overcome' much of what is being 'taught' in the 'alternative news' arena, as well as the MSM news-stream. But, as noted above, we need to first, Be Aware, then to Process our Reaction with Understanding.

    Just part of our Lesson here in 3D

    It does give me pause to wonder if, indeed, there was a major power outage, in such a fashion that ALL power devices became 'dead'... and tptw can no longer sell their programs to the masses via the tell-lie-vision, or do their 'microwave mind control'- what would the eventual outcome be?

    And, not to forget, they Too become limited in much of what They do... would They survive? Or, have they become so 'soft', that they would psychologically 'fall apart' once faced with having to actually 'work' to live?

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    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    If you have listened to The Seth Materials. Seth states that there is no difference between life and death. Consciousness is similiar. The death consciousness is an easier consciousness than the living consciousness. Just a thought!

    "The characteristics of consciousness are the same whether you are in a body or outside of one. The peaks and valleys of consciousness that I mentioned exist to some degree in all consciousness despite the form adopted afterdeath. The nature of your consciousness is no different basically than it is now, though you may not be aware of many of its characteristics. "

    WOW... I had Not heard of, nor seen this piece before... I've only gotten to the 1:30:00 mark, but this is an amazing narration and source of knowledge. Far too much to speak to at present. There's going to be a LOT of 'processing' for this one!

    Thanks So Much for bringing this forward Whitefeather ! Much Peace and Love...

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    Quote Posted by Kindred (here)
    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    If you have listened to The Seth Materials. Seth states that there is no difference between life and death. Consciousness is similiar. The death consciousness is an easier consciousness than the living consciousness. Just a thought!

    "The characteristics of consciousness are the same whether you are in a body or outside of one. The peaks and valleys of consciousness that I mentioned exist to some degree in all consciousness despite the form adopted afterdeath. The nature of your consciousness is no different basically than it is now, though you may not be aware of many of its characteristics. "

    WOW... I had Not heard of, nor seen this piece before... I've only gotten to the 1:30:00 mark, but this is an amazing narration and source of knowledge. Far too much to speak to at present. There's going to be a LOT of 'processing' for this one!

    Thanks So Much for bringing this forward Whitefeather ! Much Peace and Love...

    In Unity, Peace and Love
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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    My greatest fear (oh geez, I hope the NSA and CIA are not reading this) are that the entire ruling class of planet Earth, and all of their minions, and all of their soldiers will board vast ships and leave for another planet - leaving us to fend for ourselves.

    :~)

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    I don't want to criticize your fears. But it seems like an incredible lack of faith that you would fear the enemy, and actually feed their power by giving them too much credit. these so called minions are really humans like us who want love, also like us. That they do evil is not because they have more power, but less.. then less reason to be afraid of them, and more reason to help them..if one can not forgive and love them, then this means one must forgive and love themselves. God takes care of his children, for we are all God, and fear of the dark side is fear of the dark side of your self.


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    Quote Posted by bogeyman (here)
    This is a interesting question. You are a product of your past, probably for me, not been able to move forward, not being safe or put in a situation relating to some situation in the past. But I am aware I am being guided and protected to some degree.
    I think being put in a situation, there is a choice maybe not at the time, but at some point. Someone may fool you into a choice, and when you become awake and really choose, there lies the issue. Jesus said ""Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." Matthew 10:34. Those that are not given a choice, are given a sword against one that would cause division for a good man or woman or being. Sometimes people do ill things against their will, that is the issue. If actions are the will of that person, unpolluted, then the universe will teach. If a being is held to something against will, then there is that sword to the one who must face it, the manipulator. That is what I understand, but I do not have all the answers... Seek and you will find. Ultimately we will have to come to a point to decide what we want, even if death is part of the game being true to will. Are there any true winners in an unfair game?

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    Afraid I don't have an answer for this one, although 9eagle9 scares me. She's mean.

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    What I most fear.

    Spiritual people, and Forum people, when they fixate on partial ideas.
    Their righteousness lacking compete confidence, reveals itself in a dogmatic self interest attitude.

    This unfortunately has a ripple affect around a community, which produces a subtle pressure to conform.

    In Tibetan buddhism some practitioner sit in a grave yard all night, to face their fears.
    For me it going to spiritual centres, and writing on forums!

    Yours a bit of a maverick,
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    Quote Posted by Arrowwind (here)
    The collective Seth material tells all in my estimation, or about as much as we could comprehend while here on earth for most of us.

    Seth says that fear comes when we feel that we are getting cut off from completing goals that the oversoul has set up for us that we are aware of on a deep level and as well from not understanding the nature of our personal reality.
    I can relate directly to this statement... about two years ago, I fell into a deep-seated fear overnight that, ultimately, drove me to find the 'alternative news' in trying to understand all the lies, both in my own 'world', but also the greater world. In so doing, I eventually found myself Here... and have gained much knowledge and insight as to my True 'self', and the nature of my Infinite Being. And, there is an Infinity yet to learn!

    But, this process has been difficult and not always fun... I've lost some friends along the way and others just 'don't want to know'... We each have our individual journeys to make, and will learn at the pace that most suits us (hopefully).

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    I am not scared of the process of death but who I would leave behind. The thought of my autistic child having to defend for himself and how upset my children would be is what makes me scared. I try not to think about it and to live a healthy lifestyle so that I live a long life to be there for them as long as I can.

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    This came out today (a reality check for Californians...myself included)

    Title: "MOODY’S WARNS OF MASS CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL BANKRUPTCIES"

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    Quote The klaxon horn went off this evening for California municipal bondholders when Moody’s credit rating service issued a report stating that the plummeting financial condition of many California counties, cities, school districts and other government agencies will soon result in large numbers of municipal bankruptcy filings. Concerned about their own potential liability for providing high ratings that encouraged conservative elderly Americans to invest in risky bonds; Moody’s announced they will undertake a wide-ranging review of municipal finances because of the growing insolvencies.
    The rest is of this article is a wake up call (for those whose heads are in the sand). Should wake up your asleep neighbors out there. I realize that is doesn't sound dire. Oh my, then you have your heads in the sand as well. This article states they will downgrade California to junk bond status (and are just searching for the reason). And then.....we are in the drain and on our way to the sewer.

    Got a retirement fund in a city or county or state? You might want to catch up on where your money is going....not to you (is the plan). My entire family will be bankrupt if this happens. And it is planned for next month. Not next year or ten years from now.

    Sleeping in the streets isn't fun (no matter what the gypsies say).


    Link: http://www.chrissstreetandcompany.co...-bankruptcies/

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    PS: And the worse part is they all look to me for support....this would just make them more needy (and not less preachy). Might start planning a very very long vacation to Ecuador if this goes down.
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    Quote Posted by pugwash84 (here)
    I am not scared of the process of death but who I would leave behind. The thought of my autistic child having to defend for himself and how upset my children would be is what makes me scared. I try not to think about it and to live a healthy lifestyle so that I live a long life to be there for them as long as I can.
    Not picking on you. Just using the idea of death here.

    Death is the least of your worries. You always think death is the worse. No...it is the fear that drives you (underlying this premise) that kills you....but much more excruciating slow and it becomes generational.

    I mean you don't actually die. You just get impoverished and then....in our 'newer' ..'cleaner' economy...you become a 'day worker' ....or in old fashion terms 'a slave or a slave driver' ...the last two roles that exist in a burnt out economy.

    Just ask anyone who lives outside this little clean up version of reality, we call the Western world, ...which is just about everyone else.

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    My death is something i imagine will be a beautiful thing, a reward of sorts. The only thing that could spoil my party is, being slowly tormented to death by suffering, e.g. pain, disease, starvation or any other horror. When my time runs out, i wish to be gone in the very blink of an eye, with peace in my soul and a smile on my face. Death in itself doesn't scare me even the slightest, i rather look forward to it with anticipation and excitement. Don't get the wrong idea here, i firmly oppose suicide!
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    Quote Posted by Arrowwind (here)
    The collective Seth material tells all in my estimation, or about as much as we could comprehend while here on earth for most of us.

    Seth says that fear comes when we feel that we are getting cut off from completing goals that the oversoul has set up for us that we are aware of on a deep level and as well from not understanding the nature of our personal reality.
    I can relate directly to this statement... about two years ago, I fell into a deep-seated fear overnight that, ultimately, drove me to find the 'alternative news' in trying to understand all the lies, both in my own 'world', but also the greater world. In so doing, I eventually found myself Here... and have gained much knowledge and insight as to my True 'self', and the nature of my Infinite Being. And, there is an Infinity yet to learn!

    But, this process has been difficult and not always fun... I've lost some friends along the way and others just 'don't want to know'... We each have our individual journeys to make, and will learn at the pace that most suits us (hopefully).

    In Unity, Peace and Love
    Yes, this has been very pertinent to me also. Many years ago when I was diagnosed with cancer I became very fearful for I knew I had a specific work to do and two children were scheduled to come into my future, even though I did not know how, where or when. I feared death at that time for everything was so unfullfilled. The meaning and purpose of life was lost to me if death should have come at that time. It was a very low time. But I survivied and all that was scheduled did arrive in due course. If death faced me directly at this moment in time I think I would not have such a hard time for most life goals are completed, the big ones anyway. I have always had a sense of my overall goals and I think this comes from a direct contact with my high self. or as Seth would call - the Oversoul. I have even have had experiences where the oversoul did some very blatant intervention to keep me on course, where it felt that my choices were forced to be changed to meet certain pre-ordained destinies agreed upon before I entered into this life.

    I have always stated that fear is not a bad thing. It is a visceral wake up call and you can learn much about yourself and your situation if you can open yourself to investigating. ... but also, fear can get out of hand if you do not have a good relatonship between your highself and your body... that channel and its reciprocity must be open for one serves the other when in harmony and must open to the needs of each other... and since fear is such a visceral thing.. it is the bodies way of knowing a thing.... that gut instinct or feeling of fear .... for the entity of the physical body is a life of its own and it has needs that must be respected and delt with by the highself so that the high self can fullfill its mission through the 3D expression of the physical body. It is the mind that mediates the two... so in essence its the Fruedian id, ego and super ego in a more advanced explaination than Sigmund Freud managed to figure out... Seth is much more eloquent on the topic than I or anyone that I know of.
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    Quote Posted by Magnus (here)
    My death is something i imagine will be a beautiful thing, a reward of sorts. The only thing that could spoil my party is, being slowly tormented to death by suffering, e.g. pain, disease, starvation or any other horror. When my time runs out, i wish to be gone in the very blink of an eye, with peace in my soul and a smile on my face. Death in itself doesn't scare me even the slightest, i rather look forward to it with anticipation and excitement. Don't get the wrong idea here, i am firmly opposing suicide!
    Because I have sat with literally hundreds of dying people I firmly know that no matter what the situation, pain, suffering, and a variety of tortures to the physical body, that towards the end, close to the end, one can elevate above the physical issues and die a very good death..... for in fact we are not our bodies, this I say after having seen the shift many times, it is an enlightening experience to everyone who witnesses these types of events, including to the person acutally dying. Maybe its when that DMA kicks in, I dont know... but everything can change in a blink of an eye from pain and distress to awakening and joy at the prospects of moving on and actually starting to enter the other realms when still in the body.


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    I think being put in a situation, there is a choice maybe not at the time, but at some point. Someone may fool you into a choice, and when you become awake and really choose, there lies the issue. Jesus said ""Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." Matthew 10:34. Those that are not given a choice, are given a sword against one that would cause division for a good man or woman or being. Sometimes people do ill things against their will, that is the issue. If actions are the will of that person, unpolluted, then the universe will teach. If a being is held to something against will, then there is that sword to the one who must face it, the manipulator. That is what I understand, but I do not have all the answers... Seek and you will find. Ultimately we will have to come to a point to decide what we want, even if death is part of the game being true to will. Are there any true winners in an unfair game?
    yea, thats a good passage in the bible. although I am not a bible type person.
    You cannot have consciousness without a sword.
    There is a lot of slaying to do.
    One must slay all their personal tyrants
    that dwell within themselves
    and metaphorically slay
    all those petty tyrants
    that dwell outwardly that try to control you.
    You cannot be free without a fair amount of warfare
    When the demons are slayed
    internally and all around you
    then you can be free to become who you are.

    The only demons that exist are the ones that
    you allow to exist within you
    and contorl you and to push you
    into being who you are not really.
    Eventhough there are those who would
    do you harm, if you give them power to do so
    they will but If you know your eternal spirit
    there is nothing a demon or tyrant
    can do to you of any real consequence
    for even if they take your body
    you are invincible in your spirit.

    Just like Jesus at the cross...
    he slayed his tyrants with the sword of forgiveness.
    and was free to continue to be in his heart

    Generally the first tyrants to slay
    are ones own family members.
    and when you do
    then you are free to love them for the first time
    no matter how petty a tyrant they continue to be
    you are free from them
    and for the first time free in your heart
    and free to love them for just who they are

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    I would be afraid, if of anything, of the idea of time. Since someone on this thread has desired a life running backwards in time, consider this story. A doctor receives into his clinic patients who look dead or close to death, he carries out various operations on them, and over time, they make a full recovery and eventually walk out in perfect health.

    This is the story, told backwards, by a Nazi doctor in the Mengele mould. The novel is by Martin Amis and is called Time's Arrow. Inevitably it caused a furore among people who didn't understand.

    What they didn't properly understand was that time, which doesn't exist per se, is the major invention of this matrix. And like road signs in wartime, which in the UK were swivelled through 90 or 180 degrees to delude the potential German attacker, time's arrow is pointed in the wrong direction.

    This is why I agree 100% with Barbara Hand Clow's notion of Catastrophism. We are fearful of the future because of something that happened in the past. This can be verified on a personal level, on an interpersonal level, and on a collective level.

    Hnece I am afraid of nothing. Been there done that got the postcard, the t-shirt, the whole works. Basta cosi.
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    Default Re: What Are You Afraid Of, and Why?

    It is a question or growth as well. As your growing your fears change, some are past on by parents to off spring, others from movies, or possibilities of what may happen. Some a result of your personal experiences, and of experiences of others close to you. Your environment can also cause fear, dark corners on the street, unlit areas etc. It may be something primeval, a natural state to enhance survival. We are bombarded with fears from all sorts of sources, this must have effect of some of us.
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