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    This seems to be the opinion of a texas judge.

    Texas Judge Warns Obama Re-Election Could Lead to Civil War

    Quote “He’s going to try to hand over the sovereignty of the United States to the U.N., and what is going to happen when that happens?” Head asked. “I’m thinking the worst. Civil unrest, civil disobedience, civil war maybe. And we’re not just talking a few riots here and demonstrations, we’re talking Lexington, Concord, take up arms and get rid of the guy.”
    “Now what’s going to happen if we do that, if the public decides to do that? He’s going to send in U.N. troops. I don’t want ‘em in Lubbock County. OK. So I’m going to stand in front of their armored personnel carrier and say, ‘You’re not coming in here,’” the judge said. “And the sheriff, I’ve already asked him, I said, ‘You gonna back me?’ He said, ‘Yeah, I’ll back you.’ Well, I don’t want a bunch of rookies back there. I want trained, equipped, seasoned veteran officers to back me.”
    If this does happen, things all over america will go from bad to worse.

    Here is the video on that page.
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    My momma told me if you cant say anything nice dont say anything at all. You know what I like about Texas? You can get really big steaks relatively cheap. Like porterhouses with all the sides you want for less than $20 which is unheard of out East.......They do have some beautiful women.........That is all.
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    Excuse me, a FOX(666) video? Lexington and Concord are Revolutionary War locations. The "Civil" War was a war of Northern(Banker) aggression, where the South were the terrorists. The media and bankers created that war like WWl, WWll, VietNam, Afghanistan and Iraq. Just the conflation of Revolutionary terms with Civil war terms is just part and parcel of the ignorance that vomits itself out of the TV from this channel. All TV news is vomit, but the 666/FOX variant is the big joke. That it is watched, or posted, is the justification and proof of just how very fooking ignorant huge swathes of the population are. It allows the elite to look upon us in contempt and with disgust. Deservedly so also.

    If there ever is another civil war, (I don't think so) it would be because the media created it and morons showed up to fight it.

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    IMO there NEEDS to be a civil war. Thats the only way our poor world will change, when the people of our planet stand up and say ENOUGH ALREADY...

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    Default Re: Will there be another civil war?

    i don't know if there will be another civil war -- i do know that after the 'Patriot' Act was passed, when i was freaking out because my fellow citizens were mostly so quiet -- it seems that many were quietly buying guns & ammo

    if it does come to a war, it will be a war between USA citizens & the NWO -- & it will be fought state by state, county by county, neighborhood by neighborhood, w/the Oathkeepers & others of our military on the side of the USA citizens

    tho we may all get fried by a solar flare first, or drown in tsunamis on both the east & west coasts

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    I think there will only be another civil war if and when half the country runs out of drinkable water.

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    Default Re: Will there be another civil war?

    "Civil war", I don't think so. The Ruling Elite have done a good job brainwashing and implanting divisive memes into us, but I don't think anything powerful enough to have a civil war over.

    "Class War": Yes. Currently in progress. Could get a lot, LOT uglier. One really bad thing that could happen is for "have nots" to start hunting down "haves." If so, it will create a situation akin to the way cops deal with "cop killers", that is, they would ruthlessly and relentlessly retaliate. One message I'd give to the Financial Elite is that, despite their sociopathy, for their self-preservation, they should really back-off on class war tactics - like making it illegal to feed the homeless. At some trigger point, the backlash from class warfare will look a lot like the French Revolution if the Financial Elite keep applying pressure until there is a gigantic, societal eruption.

    "Fighting over stuff"/survival violence, well, yes, if/when the economy utterly implodes. There will be a lot more sharing than fighting, but we won't hear about the sharing - it's not sensational.

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    The media has a lot to answer for, people believe a lot of what the media says, regardless of whether it is true or not.
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    This story was run by other news agency besides fox. Its on CNN also.

    And who is the representative head of the NWO? The United Nations.
    Read Alice Bailey.... shes got it all outlined

    This judge in my estimation is right on the ball... being he is also incharge of emergency protocol for his county he dares to ask what will the people do if United Nations guard is sent to his county to "provide peace and stability"

    He says hell NO! no UN troops on our county soil and he has the Sheriff, the single most powerful person of any local jurisdiction to back him up.

    Plans for UN control of police and military issues on US soil has been in the works for over 30 years. I remember seeing maps of UN jurisdictions on US soil back in 1989. If it comes to this I pray for a civil war. I pray for a military coup to restore the US constitiution.
    www.Oathkeepers.org

    CNN report:
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/23/us/tex...html?hpt=hp_t2

    Saying that as the county's emergency management coordinator he has to "think about the very worst thing that can happen and prepare for that and hope and pray for the best," Head told radio host Jeff Klotzman that he believes "in this political climate and financial climate, what is the very worst thing that could happen right now? Obama gets back in the White House. No. God forbid."


    Referring to unexplained "executive orders" and other documents that Obama and "his minions have filed," Head said, "regardless of whether the Republicans take over the Senate, which I hope they do, he is going to make the United States Congress and he's going to make the Constitution irrelevant. He's got his czars in place that don't answer to anybody."

    Obama, Head said, will "try to give the sovereignty of the United States away to the United Nations. What do you think the public's going to do when that happens? We are talking civil unrest, civil disobedience, possibly, possibly civil war. ... I'm not talking just talking riots here and there. I'm talking Lexington, Concord, take up arms, get rid of the dictator. OK, what do you think he is going to do when that happens? He is going to call in the U.N. troops, personnel carriers, tanks and whatever."

    Head vowed to personally stand "in front of their personnel carriers and say, 'You're not coming in here.' And I've asked the sheriff. I said, 'Are you going to back me on this?' And he said, 'Yeah, I'm going to back you.' Well, I don't want a bunch of rookies back there who have no training and little equipment. I want seasoned veteran people who are trained that have got equipment. And even then, you know we may have two or three hundred deputies facing maybe a thousand U.N. troops. We may have to call out the militia."

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    Remember, Obama had the chance to free us from the Patriot Act, instead, he re-authorized it. That was the day I gave up on Obama. It was not change I could believe in.

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    when in Boulder, i learned that Dick Cheney owns all the water rights to the Front Range

    Quote Posted by nurgle (here)
    I think there will only be another civil war if and when half the country runs out of drinkable water.


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    all those i know who are arming themselves are doing it for self-defense

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    "Civil war", I don't think so. The Ruling Elite have done a good job brainwashing and implanting divisive memes into us, but I don't think anything powerful enough to have a civil war over.

    "Class War": Yes. Currently in progress. Could get a lot, LOT uglier. One really bad thing that could happen is for "have nots" to start hunting down "haves." If so, it will create a situation akin to the way cops deal with "cop killers", that is, they would ruthlessly and relentlessly retaliate. One message I'd give to the Financial Elite is that, despite their sociopathy, for their self-preservation, they should really back-off on class war tactics - like making it illegal to feed the homeless. At some trigger point, the backlash from class warfare will look a lot like the French Revolution if the Financial Elite keep applying pressure until there is a gigantic, societal eruption.

    "Fighting over stuff"/survival violence, well, yes, if/when the economy utterly implodes. There will be a lot more sharing than fighting, but we won't hear about the sharing - it's not sensational.

    Dennis

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    [QUOTE=wynderer;543320]when in Boulder, i learned that Dick Cheney owns all the water rights to the Front Range

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    I think there will only be another civil war if and when half the country runs out of drinkable water.
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    Yes, water is an issue and just look to UN agenda 21 for clarification of intent.
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    I live on top of one of the largest subteranian water reserves in the nation.. and agenda 21 has its eye on it.
    Be grateful that there are a bunch of redneck ranchers who pack guns living here who will not give it up without a fight.
    Recently a local got caught trying to sell her water rights to someone in Nevada..
    she will never live it down. You know, rich folks go around trying to purchase water rights without the attached property.
    If it were other types of folks here, control of water will flow into the hands of the elite and NWO without a hitch.

    People have always killed for water and they will continue to do so for water is life and without it you are as good as dead.


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    Default Re: Will there be another civil war?

    Well, since Lincoln was anti US Federal Reserve, wouldn't allow it, and was probably killed because of it, I wouldn't call the US civil war Northern Bankster Aggression. Of course there was the element of financial manoeuvring, but my understanding is that once the ball was in play, the big money boys supported the South and blackmailed the English to blockade the North. It was only the intervention of Russia (another country that at the time would not entertain the idea of a foreign owned central bank, and the reason that Lenin and Trotsky were funded by the Rockefeller Foundation to wipe out the Tsarist bloodline) that ended what was looking to be the demise of the North. Also, given slavery, its pretty hard for the South to claim the moral highground, even though slavery was somewhat of a furphy as far as causes of the civil war went. Perhaps fairer to say that financial clout was used to manoeuvre and ensnare both sides, as always seems to be the case. As will be the case here. The only problem is, there were no FEMA concentration camps back in the day, and a new civil war will be waged just to swing the apparatus of oppression into top gear, fill those camps, start the extermination to begin to reduce the global population to a managable 1 billion, as seen on the Georgia Guidestones. Obama is nothing but a mind-controlled patsy, be disappointed in him, feel sorry for him, but don't hate him - he does not act under his own volition.

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    Remember, Obama had the chance to free us from the Patriot Act, instead, he re-authorized it. That was the day I gave up on Obama. It was not change I could believe in.
    Also, consider the NDAA and the few others he pushed through. NOT the president I voted for. I'm all for the Green Party, now. The only thing I worry about is that once we segregate from Obama to other parties, it may give Mitt Romney the lead. Which, I don't know about you, but could that, in any way, shape, or form, be ANY better than Obama? HELL no!

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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    "Civil war", I don't think so. The Ruling Elite have done a good job brainwashing and implanting divisive memes into us, but I don't think anything powerful enough to have a civil war over.

    "Class War": Yes. Currently in progress. Could get a lot, LOT uglier. One really bad thing that could happen is for "have nots" to start hunting down "haves." If so, it will create a situation akin to the way cops deal with "cop killers", that is, they would ruthlessly and relentlessly retaliate. One message I'd give to the Financial Elite is that, despite their sociopathy, for their self-preservation, they should really back-off on class war tactics - like making it illegal to feed the homeless. At some trigger point, the backlash from class warfare will look a lot like the French Revolution if the Financial Elite keep applying pressure until there is a gigantic, societal eruption.

    "Fighting over stuff"/survival violence, well, yes, if/when the economy utterly implodes. There will be a lot more sharing than fighting, but we won't hear about the sharing - it's not sensational.

    Dennis
    Thank you for this clarifying post, Dennis. A few posters have used the term civil war, clearly without understanding what the term "civil' war means. In both instances revolution would have been the more apt term.

    A civil war is when the common people of a country split into warring factions. A revolution is when the underclass overthrow their ruling class, to varying effects and success.

    There is potential trouble and possible war brewing for sure. It would not be a civil war. The conservative/liberal phony caricatures are an attempt by the criminals and their media whores to promote something akin to civil strife. It has worked to some degree. More and more, those created divisions are being seen for the manipulative actions they are. We have differences amongst ourselves, but they are far more nuanced and subtle than the crayon line broad boxes that are put out there for us to get into. The organized crime families of Dems and Reps have overplayed their hands. Even the densest of us are aware of a bad odor coming from those corners.

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    I have always considered the danger points, due to the global location of the USA and the associated weather patterns... to be either Early spring or late fall.

    For... a government or group that wishes to move into total takeover, will design a plan that has the greatest opportunity to operate in one single theater mode, for as long as possible.

    Their plan, their timing, their set up, their opening moves.

    Thus spring time.... or fall time.

    Thus, in about 1 month's time, maybe 6 weeks....IMO, the window will pass.

    Nobody wants to be either Napoleon or Hitler trying to 'bust a move' on Moscow, if you get what I mean. Or to be mired in the mud of monsoon season.

    Weather is a crucial part. Springtime is probably a key moment, regarding potentials.

    As a guess and example... to begin the process..possibly a problem with the presidential offices in lets say..mid-late February, motion toward fascism complete by mid march, roll out of 'movement and transport control' ('papers please') by late march, early May, start collecting people mid late may, get done by august on these sort of things, settle down/spin down for winter..and so on. something like that.
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    Remember, Obama had the chance to free us from the Patriot Act, instead, he re-authorized it. That was the day I gave up on Obama. It was not change I could believe in.
    Also, consider the NDAA and the few others he pushed through. NOT the president I voted for. I'm all for the Green Party, now. The only thing I worry about is that once we segregate from Obama to other parties, it may give Mitt Romney the lead. Which, I don't know about you, but could that, in any way, shape, or form, be ANY better than Obama? HELL no!
    None of them are better and none of them are worse. I am concerned about the green party supporting agenda 21, a facist plot if ever there was one. I will vote for Ron Paul regardless. My vote must at least have meaning to me.

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    This seems to be the opinion of a texas judge.

    Texas Judge Warns Obama Re-Election Could Lead to Civil War

    Quote “He’s going to try to hand over the sovereignty of the United States to the U.N., and what is going to happen when that happens?” Head asked. “I’m thinking the worst. Civil unrest, civil disobedience, civil war maybe. And we’re not just talking a few riots here and demonstrations, we’re talking Lexington, Concord, take up arms and get rid of the guy.”
    “Now what’s going to happen if we do that, if the public decides to do that? He’s going to send in U.N. troops. I don’t want ‘em in Lubbock County. OK. So I’m going to stand in front of their armored personnel carrier and say, ‘You’re not coming in here,’” the judge said. “And the sheriff, I’ve already asked him, I said, ‘You gonna back me?’ He said, ‘Yeah, I’ll back you.’ Well, I don’t want a bunch of rookies back there. I want trained, equipped, seasoned veteran officers to back me.”
    If this does happen, things all over america will go from bad to worse.
    ...
    Sounds possible to me, Humanalien, I am not super informed about the situation in the US but a lot of what's been posted here makes sense to me. The water issue may be a crucial one.
    I believe that civil war is actually a threat for the whole western world - look at Italy for example, if a leader, a strong revolutionary leader, puts together all the rebellious movements in the country, there would be a civil war. At the moment there isn't one...fortunately or, for some, unfortunately?

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