Still another source stating that Israel may attack Iran before U.S. elections

[Matisse]

I ran across today still another article which thinks Israel will atack Iran before U.S.

elections. Let us all hope and pray that this war doesn't happen.

http://www.euromoney.com/Article/309...-backdrop.html

[deridan]

within the usa this actually would be the funniest dilemma itself
it would force voters to choose there president by the man who stands for support or not.

and if not that isreal would be in relative trouble,
the world will actually be in less trouble for if the usa involves itself russia and chinas niggling doubts and public facades would play more directly into the most direct route we can see for ww3

[Matisse]

Posted by deridan (here)
within the usa this actually would be the funniest dilemma itself
it would force voters to choose there president by the man who stands for support or not.

and if not that isreal would be in relative trouble,
the world will actually be in less trouble for if the usa involves itself russia and chinas niggling doubts and public facades would play more directly into the most direct route we can see for ww3

I think that is the whole point is why they are considering to attack, politically it makes more sense to them now than after, especially if obama is reelected as polls suggest.
At this time it would be hard for obama to take a strong stance against Israel without losing votes, also the danger of him being seen as weak against the "Iran threat".
Also there is the danger they (israel) could use a false flag event against the U.S.A. as they did before with the USS Liberty in 1967, which would complicate matters
even worse. Also if Iran is attacked by Israel, then they could try to close the strait of Hormuz in retaliation, which the U.S. has already declared won't accept.
I agree with you as it seems a direct route to WW3, for this I think should at all costs be avoided.

[Carmody]

The story they Fed Stephen Harper has not come out yet. (the prime Minster of Canada, who, as a pre-load, or lead-in for this story's emergence, in order to give it 'legs', a history, or depth....has closed Canada's embassy in Iran)

Note I said 'the story they fed Stephen Harper'.

It's more Nigerian yellowcake crap. Absolute bull****e.

And they're playing Stephen Harper, like a fiddle.

[seko]

That country hasn't invaded any other country like the zionist regime and the US administrations in the last century and the beginning of this one.

The MSM has been working like crazy to put it down our throats that Iran is the new evil country and it's boring now.

They should shut up and mind their own lives.

Canadians are great and friendly people, it's a shame they can't control their not so great government or administration that be.

[Flash]

What is the precise story Carmody? I did not comprehend that he did this so early in the battle of Israel. I thought this was to send a clear message to the world about what is coming. But what is the real story given to him? I would very much like to know.

Harper has a good musician on his side playing the violin Harper is very well, given that the violin is of bad quality.

[Carmody]

Has anyone ever noticed that the fascists are always the first to co-opt and use the word 'freedom' for nefarious purposes?

"Anti-Islamic advertisements will go up across New York City’s subway system next week after a federal judge ruled that the city’s Metropolitan Transportation Authority could not legally refuse to host the signs on the basis of "demeaning" language.

As early as next Monday, ten NYC subway stations will showcase adverts declaring, "In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat Jihad." The campaign was created by the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI), an organization considered a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center watch group."

http://rt.com/usa/news/advertisement...rica-york-609/

If I was living in NYC, I would consider it my duty, as a human, to deface and destroy such signs, every time I saw one, whenever possible.

I've done such before. (I made the national news, incognito, no-one ever knew who did it..when I was 10 yeas old )

[Flash]

Everything to make sure the fire is on and the NY subway is target to attacks. Then, reinforcement of security in NY and USA once it has been attacked, plus the benefit of a well worked out war in the Middle East. NSA in the subway, this will start getting uncomfortable for New Yorkers.

Such advert are simply provocation in a volatile situation. The video was not enough it seems.

[Carmody]

Then someone should get into a superman costume, and be filmed destroying one of these signs and post the video on Youtube. As soon as it is possible.

Remove their capacity to direct society, before it can happen. Deflate their balloon of bull, before it can inflate.

[ulli]

Posted by seko (here)
That country hasn't invaded any other country like the zionist regime and the US administrations in the last century and the beginning of this one.

The MSM has been working like crazy to put it down our throats that Iran is the new evil country and it's boring now.

They should shut up and mind their own lives.

Canadians are great and friendly people, it's a shame they can't control their not so great government or administration that be.

One has to study the history of the Baha'i Faith, especially the early history, to make any sense of it all.
This rabbit hole is deeper than all the others combined.

Twenty thousand Bahais were massacred in Persia in the 19th century, while the movement's leader and his family were banished to a prison in Palestine.
After his death the surviving members of his family continued living in Palestine as free citizens..which became Israel in 1947....and where the movement still has it's center.
The early Baha'i martyrs live on in spirit and are continuing to manifest the prophet's message, and will deliver karma to Iran, even though the forces that are carrying it
out know nothing about them.

[Flash]

I would do it if I were in NY, this would be real funny. And how can you arrest superman for helping humanity. Even arrested, it would make the world newspapers.

What is being done right now with public opinion in the MIddle East and USA, and the actions being planned for provocation on either side are so predictable that it is almost boring. It would make a very bad 3rd grade movie. Yet, if nobody reacts, it may work as the movie about Mohammed has worked.

[seko]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by seko (here)
That country hasn't invaded any other country like the zionist regime and the US administrations in the last century and the beginning of this one.

The MSM has been working like crazy to put it down our throats that Iran is the new evil country and it's boring now.

They should shut up and mind their own lives.

Canadians are great and friendly people, it's a shame they can't control their not so great government or administration that be.

One has to study the history of the Baha'i Faith, especially the early history, to make any sense of it all.
This rabbit hole is deeper than all the others combined.

Twenty thousand Bahais were massacred in Persia in the 19th century, while the movement's leader and his family were banished to a prison in Palestine.
After his death the surviving members of his family continued living in Palestine as free citizens..which became Israel in 1947....and where the movement still has it's center.
The early Baha'i martyrs live on in spirit and are continuing to manifest the prophet's message, and will deliver karma to Iran, even though the forces that are carrying it
out know nothing about them.

Thank you for the info about the Baha'i faith Ulli, very interesting and sorry to hear about their killings and persecutions from the Iranian administrations. But how do you relate it to the zionist regime and the american administrations trying to make Iran look like an evil country or trying to provoke a war???? Are the Baha'i faith behind those countries that oppose Iran or what is it???

[ulli]

Posted by seko (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by seko (here)
That country hasn't invaded any other country like the zionist regime and the US administrations in the last century and the beginning of this one.

The MSM has been working like crazy to put it down our throats that Iran is the new evil country and it's boring now.

They should shut up and mind their own lives.

Canadians are great and friendly people, it's a shame they can't control their not so great government or administration that be.

One has to study the history of the Baha'i Faith, especially the early history, to make any sense of it all.
This rabbit hole is deeper than all the others combined.

Twenty thousand Bahais were massacred in Persia in the 19th century, while the movement's leader and his family were banished to a prison in Palestine.
After his death the surviving members of his family continued living in Palestine as free citizens..which became Israel in 1947....and where the movement still has it's center.
The early Baha'i martyrs live on in spirit and are continuing to manifest the prophet's message, and will deliver karma to Iran, even though the forces that are carrying it
out know nothing about them.

Thank you for the info about the Baha'i faith Ulli, very interesting and sorry to hear about their killings and persecutions from the Iranian administrations. But how do you relate it to the zionist regime and the american administrations trying to make Iran look like an evil country or trying to provoke a war???? Are the Baha'i faith behind those countries that oppose Iran or what is it???

Bahai teachings are so focused on building the foundation of a future society that it is forbidden to even consider taking sides in such matters.
Party politics is also forbidden, although the believers are encouraged to respect government and to vote during elections, for the best applicant.
while keeping their opinions in such matters private, so as not to add fuel to the duality and cause further conflict.
There are prophecies which told Iranians to get out of Iran already in the 1930s, and certainly long before the 1978 revolution, and those Bahais that left it too late suffered incredible consequences. I met one woman who escaped from Iran by crawling onto a boat headed for India, surrounded by a herd of sheep, covered with a sheepskin, while she was 9 months pregnant. Her parents were later martyred in Iran. I have endless such stories, having met these people in person during my active Baha'i years.
I'll dig up some of the prophecies.

OK, Wiki has a page...but there is lots more in the writings.

I left the community 12 years ago as I started to have doubts about the current leadership...but I may well be wrong... There is always more going on behind the scenes than meets the eye.
In the 80s the elected leaders were a lot more transparent than they have been in recent years and that may well have to do with the fact that the world center is in Israel and they have to walk a fine line...having so many connections with believers who are still trapped in Iran, and being too friendly with Israel has already cost many lives. Those Bahai's are accused of being Zionist spies....hence the tortures.
The main goal of the prophet founder Baha'u'llah is to abolish war from the face of the earth, but he did say that the old world order would continue for a long time in it's death throws.
His version of a new world order has nothing to do with the Illuminati NWO agenda, as many here believe, although I believe it is possible that in past decades members of the Illuninati have infiltrated the Baha'i Faith with the aim to destroy it from within and hi-jack it.

In order to make the distinction one has to study the system of government which Baha'u'llah foretold would one day become commonplace....and which is democratic as well as corporate. No party politics. It is unique, although has some elements of socialism, but is structured like a corporation. The main feature is regular elections, secret ballot, although I would like to see it taken even further and have term-limits on the office of those who sit on the International council, which is called Universal House of Justice, and which is considered by Bahais as an infallible body which all must obey.
So there is the catch. As Bahais are supposedly non-dualistic, disobedience is wrong and divisive, but that also opens the door for elements in society that want world control and to take over. Only the spiritual alertness of the believers can then still save the day as election time draws nearer, which for the international body is every five years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahá'%C3%AD_prophecies

[ulli]

Here is one more quote...
to give an idea of the kind of guidance and leadership Bahais received back in the fifties in order to inspire them in the urgent quest of building grass roots communities.
These communities were then meant to spiritualize mankind to such a point that war would become unthinkable.

Shoghi Effendi, great-grandson of Baha'ullah:

This decade-long global Crusade must mark a veritable turning point in American Bahá’í history. It must prove itself to be, as it develops, a force so pervasive and revolutionary in its character as to leave a lasting imprint not only on the destinies of the American Bahá’í Community but on the fortunes of the American nation as well. It must, even as a baptismal fire, so purge its members from self as to enable them to scale heights never as yet attained. It must, in its initial stages, witness a dispersal, combined with a consecration, reminiscent of the dawn of the Heroic Age in Bahá’u’lláh’s native land. It must, as it gathers momentum, awaken the select and gather the spiritually hungry amongst the peoples of the world, as well as create an awareness of the Faith not only among the political leaders of present-day society but also among the thoughtful, the erudite in other spheres of human activity. It must, as it approaches its climax, carry the torch of the Faith to regions so remote, so backward, so inhospitable that neither the light of Christianity or Islám has, after the revolution of centuries, as yet penetrated. It must, as it approaches its conclusion, pave the way for the laying, on an unassailable foundation, of the structural basis of an Administrative Order whose fabric must, in the course of successive crusades, be laboriously erected throughout the entire globe and which must assemble beneath its sheltering shadow peoples of every race, tongue, creed, color and nation

[Lifebringer]

If i were the subway riders I'd boycott the MTA until the sign was removed on all sides of the spectrum. Let those who put the sign there ride day in and day out in support of it and the reprecussions it may bring forth.

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What's gonna happen is, People are simply not gonna tell people their religious preference and boycott the churches pushing hate and stirring the pews!!

[ghostrider]

I believe we will have a fake cosmic event that will interupt the elections. once martial law is declared Obama is in .