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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Quote Posted by bluestflame (here)
    nothing to do with the interruption of warming ocean currents due to the big oil spill in the gulf of mexico?


    just reminiscing here

    something to do with the great ocean loop
    Read something about the Gulf of Mexico before in this thread ... if there is a relation one would expect the opposite though.
    If less warm water is going up north one would expect the Arctic to get colder. Although this is not directly related I noticed
    that most Atlantic Tropical Storms and Hurricanes stay on the Atlantic and turn North-East before entering the Caribbean.
    As we speak there is TS Nadine. It cannot decide which way to go and is almost 'stationary' in the middle of the Atlantic.
    Tropical Storms tend to follow the warm water trail. So it looks like the Atlantic is warmer instead of colder.

    There are 2 other 'hints' that keep poking my unconscious mind

    1. Arctic ice is sea based ice where Antarctic ice is land based ice.
    2. If there is such a thing as Niburu/Planet X and we can't see it it's because it's Cold and coming from the South

    We keep telling ourselves that lots of amateur astronomers would have seen Niburu/Planet X by now but that's perhaps not
    true. Astronomers have made lots of calculations to detect it by perturbation and special satellites and telescopes were needed
    to get confirmation. Just a thought ...

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    To screw up things even more, the Thermohaline Conveyor Belt (Gulf Stream) is missing its Gulf of Mexico feeder and falls short of reaching the North Atlantic areas (British Isles, Iceland) which further compounds the problem with keeping the jet stream (the frontier between cold Arctic air and warm tropical air) south of where it should be. That's gona make for a nasty winter for Northern European countries.
    [/INDENT]
    and wasn't that largely caused by the gulf oil spill a couple of years ago that essentially killed the gulf stream across the Atlantic?

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    To screw up things even more, the Thermohaline Conveyor Belt (Gulf Stream) is missing its Gulf of Mexico feeder and falls short of reaching the North Atlantic areas (British Isles, Iceland) which further compounds the problem with keeping the jet stream (the frontier between cold Arctic air and warm tropical air) south of where it should be. That's gona make for a nasty winter for Northern European countries.
    [/INDENT]
    and wasn't that largely caused by the gulf oil spill a couple of years ago that essentially killed the gulf stream across the Atlantic?
    ...

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Quote Posted by nomadguy (here)
    My mind sparked upon reading this,

    ~
    The electro-static charge around the planet is increasing, so then the dipole of the Earth's magnetic field in also increasing in charge.

    The North pole gets hotter +
    And the South Pole gets colder - ??

    All in all the charge is increasing. A "celestial friction event" is happening. NOW

    Could the amassing ice cause some polar tilt? I think it could.
    And the displacement may also disrupt a few volcanoes and cause some earthquakes along faults.

    A rapid change in this electrical charge could also be set off from a solar event. CME or a Solar Wind with a negative ion stream.
    We will see... I think that >How we cope with this variety of changes, may even reset our evolutionary path.

    Adding a note: In the event of a large celestial body coming into our solar system boundary this type of "friction event" in space might actually be more "electrical" than radiative.
    So Heating alone may not be the only outcome from such an event.
    Instead the over all increase in "charge" may cause both heating and cooling to spike ~where the ions come down to the surface of the planet.
    And that is near the poles via the Birkeland currents.
    Carry on ~
    Why not now?

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    From Robert Felix's site: http://iceagenow.info/2012/09/antarctic-sea-ice-sets-time-record-high/


    Antarctic Sea Ice Sets All Time Record High

    By Robert On September 30, 2012 ·

    ‘Greatest sea ice extent ever measured at either pole’ — Will Media Report This?!

    “If current trends continue, the Earth will be completely covered with ice much faster than the climate models predicted.” (Anyone wonder why I’m not surprised? Anyone wonder why I think we’re now headed into an ice age?)



    “Day 265 set an all time record, and then day 266 broke that record.”

    “Days 265 through 270 are now the 6 highest Antarctic Sea Ice Extent’s of all time!”

    “Eleven of the top 15 daily sea-ice extent records have been set this year.”

    “The National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) seems disinterested in their own data, choosing instead to write stories about Penguins being threatened by declining Antarctic sea ice.”

    “Anyone wonder why NOAA isn’t making a fuss about this?”

    http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2...e-record-high/

    http://sunshinehours.wordpress.com/2...s-set-in-2012/

    http://www.climatedepot.com/a/17714/...me-record-high

    ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/
    south/daily/data/SH_seaice_extent_nrt.csv


    ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/
    south/daily/data/SH_seaice_extent_final.csv


    Thanks to Laurel and Marc Morano for these links
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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    From Robert Felix's site: http://iceagenow.info/2012/10/snow-o...lia-100-years/


    First snow in October in Australia in more than 100 years

    By Robert On October 11, 2012 ·

    An unusually cold storm in southern Australia has dumped a blanket of snow on Mt Lofty near Adelaide, the first October snowfall in more than a century.

    Hallett in the state’s mid-north also woke to a blanket of white.

    Andrew Watson from the Bureau of Meteorology said the rare weather event was caused by a mass of icy air from the Antarctic.

    Snow also whitened the ground along the southern Flinders ranges, east and north of Adelaide, South Australia, the Australian ABC News website said.

    Images published Thursday showed snow-covered ground at Hallett, in an upland valley north of Adelaide. Posted videos showed falling snow in the hills east of Adelaide.

    The mercury in Adelaide dropped to 4.9C, one of the lowest October minimum temperatures on record, and fell as low as 0.4C at Mount Lofty.

    Normal low temperature in Adelaide is about 50 degrees, whereas the typical high is in the lower 70s.

    Seasons in the Southern Hemisphere are the opposite of those in the north, so October is a spring month in Australia.

    One South Australia resident, from Booleroo Centre, said she had never seen October snow in her half century of living in the area.

    Locals at Hallett in the mid-north of the state, around Crafers, Mount Lofty, Lobethal and Belair in the Adelaide hills, Sevenhill in the Clare Valley and Mount Remarkable in the lower Flinders Ranges have been surprised by the snowfalls.
    Hey Oz. How’s that global warmin’ workin’ for ya?
    http://www.accuweather.com/en/weathe...re-snow/124123

    http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/o...cross-sa/22638

    Once-in-century October snow across SA
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-1...702?section=sa

    Thanks to Erwin Chvojan, Oz Steamer, Zoltan Galambos, John Haysman, Denis Ballam, David Krueger, Stephan, Gareth, Miles and Danielle for these links

    Yahoo downplayed the snowfall, with their headline reading:
    “Unseasonal snow falls in South Australia.”

    “Unseasonal”?

    The first snowfall in more than 100 years, and they call it “unseasonal”?

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/latest/a...uth-australia/
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    Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it

    • The figures reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012 there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures
    • This means that the ‘pause’ in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose, 1980 to 1996
    By David Rose

    PUBLISHED:21:42 GMT, 13 October 2012| UPDATED:01:21 GMT, 14 October 2012
    The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data released last week.


    The figures, which have triggered debate among climate scientists, reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012, there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.

    This means that the ‘plateau’ or ‘pause’ in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose, 1980 to 1996. Before that, temperatures had been stable or declining for about 40 years.



    global temperature changes



    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz29Iy2mijs
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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Amzer,

    I haven't read the entire thread so my apologies if my question has already been addressed.

    How much does "volcanic activity" have to do with the melting of the icebergs? Or am I totally off the mark?

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Don't forget the haarp project. It can heat up or cool down
    any part of the world. If the ice caps are melting, it's because
    of haarp.

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

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    Amzer,

    I haven't read the entire thread so my apologies if my question has already been addressed.

    How much does "volcanic activity" have to do with the melting of the icebergs? Or am I totally off the mark?
    The same way as with any underwater volcanic eruption: water is being warmed up at eruption point and starts a vertical convective current with the warmer water rising up. Same principle as boiling water in a pan.

    The Mid Atlantic Ocean Ridge continues up north from Iceland into the "Mid Arctic Ocean Ridge" (dark red in picture below) and that's where fresh magmatic/volcanic material is being continuously added to the oceanic crust:


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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Just found this video. What is your take disinfo or truth? Is HAARP being used to mitigate the amount of methane in the atmosphere above the arctic?

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    One stone... two birds: HAARP is good for you and... keeping forwarding the "Global Warming" scam.

    An alternate cause for the noctilucent clouds are the increase, and accumulation, of cometary/meteorite dust in the upper atmosphere.
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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    had an idea a while ago that part of the dinosaurs demise (and why so many of them had apparently fallen into mud and tar pits to be preserved for bone prints) is that once upon a time the earths gravity was much less and that over many cycles highly magnetic planets passing in an orbit round earth increased the magnetism of the earth and subsequently the gravitational pull of it ( similar to how one powerful magnet will induce magnetism in another piece of suitable metal ) so basically a lot of dinosaurs collapsed under thier own weight , leaving the smaller scaled down versions to run over the earth

    wonder how this effects the earths core

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Arctic ice is melting --> humid Arctic air --> therefore, this:
    From Robert Felix's site: http://iceagenow.info/2012/09/thousands-sheep-buried-alive-snowdrifts-video/

    Thousands of sheep buried alive in snowdrifts – Video
    By Robert On September 16, 2012 ·

    “Unprecedented” cold and snow in Iceland.

    Thousands of sheep (13,000) buried alive in snowdrifts is nothing short of disastrous.

    Sounds to me like planned retaliation that Iceland dumped the bankers....
    Any radar would have picked up the threat of such a storm and the farmers would have been warned in a timely manner..... UNLESS this was a PLANNED SURPRISE ATTACK, an AMBUSCADE

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Arctic ice is melting --> humid Arctic air --> therefore, this:
    From Robert Felix's site: http://iceagenow.info/2012/09/thousands-sheep-buried-alive-snowdrifts-video/

    Thousands of sheep buried alive in snowdrifts – Video
    By Robert On September 16, 2012 ·

    “Unprecedented” cold and snow in Iceland.

    Thousands of sheep (13,000) buried alive in snowdrifts is nothing short of disastrous.

    Sounds to me like planned retaliation that Iceland dumped the bankers....
    Any radar would have picked up the threat of such a storm and the farmers would have been warned in a timely manner..... UNLESS this was a PLANNED SURPRISE ATTACK, an AMBUSCADE
    Not necessarily... they most probably expected it to be mostly rain.
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    From Robert Felix's site: http://iceagenow.info/2012/10/scient...o-time-period/

    Scientists link magnetic reversal, climate change and super volcano to same time period

    By Robert On October 17, 2012

    Confirms what I’ve been saying all along.


    Normal and Reversed Polarity – © Dr. habil. Norbert R. Nowaczyk / GFZ

    In a press release today, the GFZ German Research Centre for Geosciences described the connection between the Laschamp magnetic reversal, the Phlegrean Field (Campi Flegrei) volcanic eruption that devastated most of southeastern Europe, and periods of frequent rapid cooling and warming.

    The largest volcanic eruption in the Northern hemisphere in the past 100,000 years, the Campi Flegrei eruption pumped out some 84 cubic miles (350 cu km) of rock and lava and distributed ash over the entire eastern Mediterranean and up to central Russia.

    See entire article:
    http://www.evolutionaryleaps.com/201...l-time-period/
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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Mythi, the alien from Andromeda, explained this effect rather peculiarly in his latest Q&A session, but it makes sense.

    Mythi why the Arctic is almost thawed and Antarctica is significantly increasing its area of ice?

    - Well, this is a typical reaction of instability caused by "artificial thawing" of your northern region by your governments, generating too much moisture, causing violent storms with flooding in specific regions and creating huge hurricanes in others, by convergence of masses of vapor with different temperatures. All steam artificially accumulated in your atmosphere creates a high volume of condensation in cold areas of the planet, which is the case in Antarctica. To be easy to understand, if you leave your freezer for days open in your kitchen, it will be filled with ice, condensed from the vapor available in the air. In the case of Antarctica, it is the open freezer on planet.

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    Mythi, the alien from Andromeda, explained this effect rather peculiarly ...

    [...]
    I think Mythi needs to learn a bit more about earth and the peculiarities of her atmosphere:

    The masses of air from the Northern Hemisphere do not mix with the Southern Hemisphere air masses. There is a boundary at the equator which is not transgressed by air masses of either hemisphere.
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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    I don't know the details of the "non-mixing" between hemispheres, but in the theory/model of nuclear winter, the pollutants from the North do get the the South easily within years. Somewhere I read that the mixing of the stratosphere is global.

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    One thought that occurred to me is that if the build-up of ice is asymmetrical, then this might create a very slight wobble on the spinning mass of the planet. I have no idea what effects that might trigger (or if the wobble would be large enough to create a knock-on effect).
    I believe that would fall in line with one of Graham Hancock's suggestions in Fingerprints of the Gods.

    **I realize now that this was pointed out months ago. **
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