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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Climate is changing. There are likely several different causes working synergistically. Big oil and coal would LOVE you to think you are being duped by scientists, who, by and large DO support the green house gas theory. Big nuclear lobby would LOVE you to embrace mainstream science so they can get crackin' on 'clean' nuclear energy.

    I'm tired of trying to figure it all out. I'd almost rather try to gain insight about it by reading chicken entrails. But one thing is for darned sure and that is a world population that has tripled in 50 years is bound to be having a huge effect--whether it's from carbon emissions or the fart storms produced by 7 billion omnivores digesting their way to the abyss

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    Hmmmm... what are they sensing?

    Mysterious snowy-owl migration one of biggest on record

    It's a long way from the Arctic to Bermuda, but scientists think the mass migration may have been caused by a scarcity in the owls' main sources of food.

    By Douglas Main, LiveScience, Tue, Dec 17 2013 at 2:20 PM




    Photo:Tom Middleton/Shutterstock

    Snowy owls — large, fluffy, white birds typically found in the Arctic and rarely seen south of the Great Lakes — have swooped down upon the eastern United States in greater numbers than at any time in at least 50 years, one bird expert says. The owls have been spotted as far south as Bermuda, the Carolinas and Missouri, according to news reports.

    This migration of snowy owls southward is called an irruption, and this is the "largest of its kind in recent memory," said Kevin McGowan, a bird expert at the Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology at Cornell University.

    Snowy owls — the same species as Hedwig, Harry Potter's fictional letter-carrying bird — are magnificent to behold, standing 3 feet (1 meter) tall and sporting a 5-foot (1.5 m) wingspan. "Snowy owls are an Arctic bird adapted to live at the top of the world, and they usually spend the winter up there," as well as the summer, McGowan told LiveScience's OurAmazingPlanet. [Whooo's in There? Amazing Images of Owls]

    Mysterious migration
    But why are these birds showing up in such large numbers in the Midwest and eastern United States? Typically, such winter migrations take place when the owls' food — mainly rodents, such as lemming — are unavailable. Although nobody knows yet why there are so many snowy owls showing up this year, it could be due to a crash in these lemming populations, or because the rodents are more difficult to hunt when there is more snow on the ground, McGowan said. In addition, more snowy owls may have been born this year compared to in other years, leading to more competition for finite food resources, he said. But scientists likely won't know for a while what factor or factors are behind the large irruption this year.

    As for why they're going to the places they've been seen, scientists note that snowy owls are attracted to large, open plains like those found in the Arctic. "They were hatched 1,000 miles from any tree," McGowan said. For this reason, they often end up in coastal plains or at airports, where they can cause problems. This month alone, five airplanes have struck or been hit by snowy owls in the New York City region, according to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

    After one of these snowy owls got sucked into a jet engine at JFK International Airport, the species was added to a list of birds that are allowed to be shot and killed, to protect planes from deadly collisions, according to news reports. At least two snowy owls were shot and killed at JFK on Dec. 7. However, after a surge of media attention, the Port Authority said on Dec. 9 that it was reversing its decision to shoot the birds, and that it would try to trap and relocate them.

    Spot a snowy owl
    The owls are pretty easy to trap, with a lure featuring a live mouse wherein the birds' talons become snared in thin strings, McGowan said. The birds are often quite difficult to scare away using traditional methods, such as shell crackers (which are similar to bottle rockets), he added.

    For bird lovers, now is the perfect opportunity to spot snowy owls, McGowan said — he has seen 10 in the past week alone in upstate New York. Curious bird watchers can see if there have been any sightings near them using eBird.org, a tool developed at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology. People can also report their own sightings on the site, he said.

    "These are cool birds, and this is the time to see them," McGowan said. They should stick around through the end of February, he added.
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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    An article on the BBC website.....



    16 December 2013 Last updated at 08:48

    Esa's Cryosat sees Arctic sea-ice volume bounce back

    Science correspondent, BBC News, San Francisco

    Arctic sea ice thickness - late Oct 2013
    Continue reading the main story
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    The bounce back in the extent of sea ice in the Arctic this summer was reflected
    also in the volume of ice.

    Data from Europe's Cryosat spacecraft suggests there were almost 9,000 cu km of
    ice at the end of this year's melt season.

    This is close to 50% more than in the corresponding period in 2012.

    It is a rare piece of good news for a region that has witnessed a rapid decline in
    both area cover and thickness in recent years.

    But scientists caution against reading too much into one year's "recovery".

    "Although the recovery of Arctic sea ice is certainly welcome news, it has to be
    considered against the backdrop of changes that have occurred over the last few
    decades," said Prof Andy Shepherd of University College London, UK.


    "It's estimated that there were around 20,000 cu km of Arctic sea ice each October
    in the early 1980s, and so today's minimum still ranks among the lowest of the
    past 30 years," he told BBC News.

    Cryosat is the European Space Agency's (Esa) dedicated polar monitoring platform.

    It has a sophisticated radar system that allows scientists to work out the thickness
    of the ice floes covering the Arctic Ocean.

    In the three years following its launch, the spacecraft saw a steady decline in
    autumn ice volume, with a record low of 6,000 cubic km being recorded in late
    October 2012.

    But after a sharply colder summer this year, the autumn volume number has gone up.

    Measurements taken in the same three weeks in October found the floes to contain
    just shy of 9,000 cu km.

    Ice breaker Thicker ice has been retained in the Arctic

    Part of this stronger performance can be put down to the greater retention of older ice.

    This is evident particularly around the Canadian archipelago and North Greenland,
    where there is much more two-year-old and three-year-old ice than in previous
    years.

    "One of the things we'd noticed in our data was that the volume of ice year-to-year
    was not varying anything like as much as the ice extent - at least for the years
    2010, 2011 and 2012," explained Rachel Tilling from the UK's Nerc Centre for Polar
    Observation and Modelling (CPOM).

    "This is why we're really quite surprised by what we've seen in 2013.

    "We didn't expect the greater ice extent left at the end of the summer melt to be
    reflected in the volume.

    "But it has been. And the reason is related to the amount of multi-year ice in the Arctic."

    Dr Don Perovich is a sea-ice expert at Dartmouth College, US.

    He said Cryosat's data tallied with observations made by other spacecraft.

    "In previous summers, some of the [multi-year ice] migrated over to the Alaska
    and Siberia areas where it melted. But this past summer, it stayed in place because
    of a change in wind patterns. And so there'll likely be more multi-year ice next year
    than there was this year," he told BBC News.

    Continue reading the main story
    Satellite altimetry: How to measure sea-ice volume



    Infographic (BBC)
    Cryosat's radar has the resolution to see the Arctic's floes and leads
    Some 7/8 of the ice tends to sit below the waterline - the draft
    The aim is to measure the freeboard - the ice part above the waterline
    Knowing this 1/8th figure allows Cryosat to work out sea-ice thickness
    The thickness multiplied by the area of ice cover produces a volume

    The minimum ice extent in the Arctic this summer was recorded as 5.10 million sq
    km. Again, this was a figure almost 50% larger than the all-time satellite-low mark
    achieved 12 months previously - when floes were reduced to just 3.41 million sq
    km by mid-September.

    Area/extent is easier to measure, but scientists regard thickness/volume to be the
    best metric with which to judge the health of the ice pack, which is why Cryosat's

    unique data-set is so important.

    For a while, it was uncertain whether the European satellite would get any autumn
    measurements this year.

    The spacecraft suffered a major fault in its onboard power system at the beginning
    of October, and all science activity was halted.

    But engineers managed to switch the satellite over to a back-up system and normal
    operations were resumed on 11 October.

    "We lost the side 'A' of the power subsystem we believe for good, although we still
    have hope to be able to use part of it in the future in case we experience another
    issue," said Esa Cryosat mission manager Dr Tommaso Parrinello.

    "Since 2 October, we have been operating on the redundant chain, but all other
    subsystems are still being operated on their prime chain 'A'. Therefore, the science
    instruments and the quality of data have not been affected."

    The new Cryosat study was presented here in San Francisco to the American
    Geophysical Union (AGU) Fall Meeting, where the annual Arctic Report Card was released.



    Thickness comparison The observations show clearly that more thick ice (red/yellow) has been retained this year
    Jonathan.Amos-INTERNET@bbc.co.uk and follow me on Twitter: @BBCAmos

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Climate is changing. There are likely several different causes working synergistically. Big oil and coal would LOVE you to think you are being duped by scientists, who, by and large DO support the green house gas theory. Big nuclear lobby would LOVE you to embrace mainstream science so they can get crackin' on 'clean' nuclear energy.

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    please explain the green house gas theory in your words... to me it's complete nonsense (and big oil WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE IT, they are behind ALL the "green" energy movement stuff... because it's so in-efficient that they cash out BIG TIME, especially since the governments subsidize them so heavily, it's basically corporate welfare... attitudes like yours are exactly what is desired)

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

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    An article on the BBC website.....



    16 December 2013 Last updated at 08:48

    [...]
    Hi Cider,

    ... to re-iterate:

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    From the article linked above:


    The observations show clearly that more thick ice (red/yellow) has been retained this year
    Jonathan.Amos-INTERNET@bbc.co.uk

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    What's the most obvious?
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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Quote carbon emissions or the fart storms produced by 7 billion omnivores digesting their way to the abyss
    Ok I'll bite, all those omnivores should produce enough methane to start a couple of 100 million cooking fires a day, how do we catch it without living in a bubble.


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    Although still under the "Global Warming/Climate Change" programming, this guy is starting to seriously wonder what the heck is happening!


    Intense storms stump FMI chief meteorologist

    Director of the Finnish Meteorological Institute Mikko Alestalo says that storms in Finland seem to have intensified recently. Alestalo is also perplexed by southern Finland’s four successive white winters.


    Like her predecessors, Seija's furiously gusting winds caused widespread damage on land. Image: Jyrki Lyytikkä / Yle

    Chief of the Finnish Meteorological Institute FMI, Mikko Alestalo said that the frequency of storms can vary from year to year or even between decades. However he said that storms seem to have become more powerful.

    “Climate change is adding certain new elements to these changes. Our climate is warmer, the atmosphere is moister and because of this low pressure systems will clearly become more powerful and will store more energy,” Alestalo told Yle.

    Gusting winds are more common and according to Alestalo, are inflicting damage on land.

    Moreover, the meteorologist noted that the last four Finnish winters have dumped massive amounts of snow on the south.

    It shouldn’t be like that four years in a row. We were somewhat puzzled and wondered whether it was caused by a melt in the Arctic Ocean, which is affecting larger weather patterns here in northern Europe and could be behind these kinds of unusual winters,” Alestalo added.

    According to the head weather watcher a warmer climate means that warm air and moisture feed more energy into storm systems.

    “Winds become more violent and in warm weather it’s easier for the gusts to make landfall, cutting down trees and ripping off roofs as they pass,” Alestalo explained.

    Finland has experienced a number of intense winter storms in recent years: in 2011, the so-called Tapaninpäivä storm (Boxing Day storm) claimed one life and caused widespread damage; in 2012 winter storm Antti blasted across the country in November also wreaking havoc; so far this year, the country has weathered three storms, Eino, Oskari and Seija, each exceeding the previous one in intensity.

    Sources Yle
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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Well, I am in the Caribbean (tropics) and I can confirm from this location that something is changing.

    During the (northern hemisphere) winter months the nights seem to be much cooler/colder than before.
    I have no measurements to prove it ... but at dawn it can be really chilly (very noticeable).

    A phenomenon of, say, last 2 .. 3 years.

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    Quote Posted by Operator (here)
    Well, I am in the Caribbean (tropics) and I can confirm from this location that something is changing.

    During the (northern hemisphere) winter months the nights seem to be much cooler/colder than before.
    I have no measurements to prove it ... but at dawn it can be really chilly (very noticeable).

    A phenomenon of, say, last 2 .. 3 years.
    how about all the freaking rain lately? I have water features in my yard!!

    and if this is chilly... well, I guess I still have some acclimating todo, haha. day time temps are still in the mid 80's though nights do drop to high 70's and with this humidity it can be a touch chilly.. I had to turn my fan on low lastnight
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    how about all the freaking rain lately? I have water features in my yard!!
    Not more rain than usual here ... perhaps even less.

    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    and if this is chilly... well, I guess I still have some acclimating todo, haha.
    Maybe, I am here almost 10 years now ... But I've been back to the Netherlands frequently and even to Canada
    last winter. So I still know what 'cold' means.

    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    day time temps are still in the mid 80's though nights do drop to high 70's and with this humidity it can be a touch chilly.. I had to turn my fan on low lastnight
    Daytime temps here are 92F/33C and evening used to be 80F/27C ... but after a few hours of cooling the temperature drops
    further to 72F/22C which is unusual. I sleep without fan or airco. Just with an open window. Even a sheet is already too
    warm when falling asleep. But it is very chilly to wake up without one ... So, you're right, nothing to complain here but the
    difference when waking up is significant

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    NASA proudly exhibiting its nickname: Never A Straight Answer

    Thirteen Years Of NASA Data Tampering – In Six Seconds

    Posted on December 21, 2013 by stevengoddard



    1999 version : www.giss.nasa.gov/data/update/gistemp/graphs/FigD.txt

    2001 version : www.giss.nasa.gov/data/update/gistemp/graphs/FigD.txt

    2012 version : data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.D.txt

    2013 version : data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.D.txt

    The animation above shows four versions of GISS 1930-1999 US temperatures – from 1999, 2001, 2012, and 2013. NASA has repeatedly tampered* with the data to hide the decline in US temperatures since the 1930′s. Each successive alteration makes the past cooler and the present warmer.

    Earlier versions showed even more of a decline, but I can’t locate digital data for them.

    *Mosher says these adjustments are all first rate science.


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    Not To Be Outdone By NASA In The Data Tampering Department ….
    Posted on December 21, 2013 by stevengoddard

    Cooling the past is fun, so why not lower past sea levels too?
    The EU’s Envisat satellite used to agree with tide gauges that there isn’t a lot of sea level rise going on.





    But that just wouldn’t do anything to scare people, so one night they simply quadrupled sea level rise.




    The graph below shows how they lowered past sea level, and raised recent sea level to create the EU mandated scary appearance of sea level rising.
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    To summarize:

    The top seven global warming alarmist setbacks in 2013

    1:45 PM 12/20/2013 Michael Bastasch

    Hold your champagne glasses high this holiday season, because the end of 2013 marks the 17th year without global warming.

    This year has been trying for climate scientists and environmentalists who have been trying hard to explain away the 17-year hiatus in global warming and link “extreme weather” to rising greenhouse gas emissions — despite strong evidence to the contrary. There has been a breakdown in the manmade global warming consensus, and some even argue we are headed for an ice age.

    In honor of the 17th year without global warming, The Daily Caller News Foundation has put together seven setbacks for global warming alarmism.

    1) Studies show that the world was warmer than it is today during the Roman Empire and when the Vikings were plundering Europe and North America. In fact, even in the 19th Century, there were discussions surrounding the fact that the Vikings could settle the northernmost reaches of Greenland and North America because there was less ice coverage.

    2) During the second week in December, the U.S. saw more than 2000 record low temperatures and record snowfalls, according to the National Weather Service and HamWeather records center. There were 606 record low temperatures, 1,234 low maximum temperatures and 285 record snowfalls across the country. In the meantime there were only 98 high temperature records and 141 high minimum temperature records.

    3) Satellite data shows that the polar bears have at least one reason to be happy this year – Arctic sea ice coverage was up 50 percent over last year’s record low coverage. Contrary to Al Gore’s prediction that there would be no polar ice cap by this year, sea ice coverage spanned nearly 2,100 cubic miles by the end of this year’s melting season, up from about 1,400 cubic last year.

    4) Global cooling is on the way, according to an increasing number of scientists. German scientists have predicted that based on declining sunspot activity and natural climate oscillation the world will cool over the next century. Temperatures will eventually drop to levels corresponding with the “little ice age” of 1870.

    5) Other scientists have also been coming around to the global cooling side of things. The BBC reported that Professor Mike Lockwood of the Reading University predicts that at the current rate of decline in solar activity, another “Little Ice Age” could envelope Northern Europe.

    6) The United Nations climate bureaucracy’s latest global warming report was called “hilarious” by a leading scientist from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Dr. Richard Lindzen said the UN’s report “has truly sunk to level of hilarious incoherence” because they continue to proclaim with ever greater certainty that mankind is causing global warming, despite their models continually being wrong.

    “Their excuse for the absence of warming over the past 17 years is that the heat is hiding in the deep ocean,” Lindzen said. “However, this is simply an admission that the models fail to simulate the exchanges of heat between the surface layers and the deeper oceans.”

    7) The Senate testimony of Dr. Roger Pielke of the University of Colorado completely undercut environmentalists and Democrats trying to claim that global warming was causing “extreme weather.”

    “It is misleading and just plain incorrect to claim that disasters associated with hurricanes, tornadoes, floods or droughts have increased on climate timescales either in the United States or globally,” Pielke said. “It is further incorrect to associate the increasing costs of disasters with the emission of greenhouse gases.”

    The other witnesses on the panel did not refute Pielke’s data.*

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    * That means they couldn't due to lack of countering, irrefutable data.
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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Well...

    ... now, it's freezing at both ends AT THE SAME TIME!

    Russian passenger ship trapped in Antarctic ice

    By Robert On December 25, 2013 · 1 Comment


    Remember! It’s summer down there!

    The MV Akademik Shokalskiy, a 71-meter-long Russian-flagged with 74 people aboard including 52 explorers and tourists, is trapped in the ice approximately 1500 nautical miles south of Hobart, according to a media release from the Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA)



    MV Akademik Shokalskiy Location 25Dec13 (AMSA)

    AMSA’s Rescue Coordination Centre Australia (RCC Australia) was contacted by the Falmouth Maritime Rescue Coordination Centre in the UK on Christmas morning.

    The ship is trapped in the ice 100 nautical miles east of the French base Dumont D’Urville.

    RCC Australia issued a broadcast to icebreaking vessels in the area.

    Three ships with icebreaking capability have responded, including the Australian Antarctic Division (AAD) vessel Aurora Australis, and are now enroute to the area.

    The closest vessels are at least two days sailing time away.

    Those on board the ship, which left New Zealand late last month, include explorers, scientists and tourists, as well as crew.

    The voyage was planned as part of an expedition to mark the centenary of explorer Douglas Mawson’s trip and to get the chance to see Mawson’s Huts which have been inaccessible for some time because of an iceberg.

    The ship full of tourists, explorers and scientists was sailing in Antarctica on a voyage from New Zealand, when it got stuck in the ice.

    Despite the vessel being the Finnish-built ice-strengthened, MV Akademik Shokalskiy, it can’t move.

    Further updates will be provided when more information is available.

    Blizzard could play havoc: AMSA
    AMSA’s Andrea Hayward-Maher says the search-and-rescue operation will be difficult.

    “It’s quite windy and there could be some sort of blizzard conditions,” she said.

    “Weather conditions, if they become difficult, could hinder the options that we have.

    “But hopefully those ice breaking vessels will be able to get there as soon as they possibly can to render assistance.”

    http://www.amsa.gov.au/media/documents/25122013AkademikShokalskiyUpdate1_Media_Release.pd

    http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...d-rescue?lite=

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-2...hobart/5174828

    http://www.sott.net/article/270821-A...trapped-in-ice

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/antar...225-2zwjr.html

    http://rt.com/news/antarctic-ship-trapped-ice-778/

    https://twitter.com/AMSA_News

    Thanks to Mervyn Leavesley, Craig Adkins, Oz Steamer, Allan Cotterill, Rosco Mac, Aubrey Smyth and Amit Naik for these links
    Two things to note, says Oz:

    #1. It’s Summer…. the sea ice is supposed to be at a minimum, both in extent and also thickness;

    #2. The publication (the Sydney Morning Herald) is usually rabidly Warmist. It usually doesn’t publish anything that might even hint at contradicting the theory of Global Warming.

    “I don’t think these people will be having a Merry Christmas,” says Mervyn. “Antarctic ice strikes back!”
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    China icebreaker fails to reach stuck Antarctic ship


    Chris Fogwill and the team are retracing the steps of Douglas Mawson a century ago

    A scientific mission ship, trapped in dense pack ice off East Antarctica, is still awaiting rescue after a Chinese icebreaker failed to reach it.

    The Snow Dragon icebreaker was itself stalled by heavy ice, officials say.

    It had been trying to cut a path through the ice in order to help the research vessel reach open water.

    The Russian Academic Shokalskiy, which has been trapped since Christmas Day, has 74 on board and is being used by the Australasian Antarctic Expedition.

    They are following the route explorer Douglas Mawson travelled a century ago.



    Professor Chris Turney said the Chinese icebreaker had itself had trouble with the ice
    'Too thick'

    One of the leaders of the expedition, Chris Turney, earlier tweeted an image of the Snow Dragon icebreaker - also known as the Xue Long - on the horizon as it approached the research ship.

    The Chinese vessel came within seven nautical miles (11 km) of the expedition ship, but encountered heavy ice and was forced to return to the open sea.

    "Our rescue boat, the Xue Long, has had to turn back because the ice was too thick for it to get through," said Alok Jha, a journalist on board the Shokalskiy.


    The Shokalskiy was trapped by thick sheets of ice driven by high winds


    People are seen standing on the ice next to the vessel


    An Australian rescue boat is not expected to reach the Russian expedition until Sunday

    The Australian Maritime Safety Authority, which is coordinating the rescue, confirmed that a French vessel had also failed to penetrate the ice.

    The agency said another boat, the Aurora Australis, was on its way to the Russian vessel and expected to arrive on Sunday.

    "I think we're probably looking at another 24 hours of twiddling our fingers and waiting for something to happen," expedition spokesman Alvin Stone told the Associated Press.

    Correspondents say expedition members could be winched to safety by a helicopter if the weather remains favourable.

    The research ship Shokalskiy was trapped by thick sheets of ice, driven by strong winds, about 1,500 nautical miles south of Hobart - the capital of the Australian state of Tasmania.

    There had also been fears that blizzards could hamper the rescue effort.


    The crew aboard the Shokalskiy are surrounded by awe-inspiring views


    And they have some curious neighbours

    The Shokalskiy is well stocked with food and is in no danger, according to the team.

    Although trapped for the moment, the scientists are continuing their experiments. They have been measuring temperature and salinity through cracks in the surrounding ice.

    Science volunteer Sean Borkovic told the BBC: "I'll always remember this, that's for sure. It's brilliant. We've got some lovely light and the weather's pretty mild considering. The ship looks solid. I think we'll be good."

    A visit from Secret Santa and a sumptuous Christmas dinner contributed to the mood of optimism.

    The goal of the modern day Australasian Antarctic Expedition is to repeat many of the original measurements and studies of the Mawson expedition to see how facets of the environment have changed over the past century.



    Comment (from SOTT.net editors):
    The expedition is being led by Chris Turney, "climate scientist", who has "set up a carbon refining company called Carbonscape which has developed technology to fix carbon from the atmosphere and make a host of green bi-products, helping reduce greenhouse gas levels." The purpose of the expedition is "to discover and communicate the environmental changes taking place in the south."

    As Anthony Watts remarks, Antarctic Sea Ice is more than 2 standard deviations above normal:

    © NSIDC



    Will the good climate change professor, Chris Turney take note of the "environmental changes taking place in the south", or will he go home and seek comfort in the climate change models based on the GIGO principle (Garbage In, Garbage Out), that predict the melting of the polar regions?
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    Only at the South Pole: Icebreaker also stuck -- in ice -- heading for stranded ship

    By Michael Martinez. Holly Yan and Kevin Wang, CNN
    December 28, 2013 -- Updated 0239 GMT (1039 HKT)


    Icebreaker gets stuck; rescue stalled

    STORY HIGHLIGHTS
    • NEW: Rescue efforts are at a frozen standstill just like stranded ship
    • Chinese icebreaker expected to arrive first but has been stopped by ice and storm
    • The stranded research vessel is carrying tourists and scientists studying climate change
    • The 74 people aboard had a "great Christmas" while at a frozen standstill, leader says
    (CNN) -- South Pole weather has stymied a rescue by a Chinese icebreaker trying to reach an expedition vessel trapped for the past four days in frozen seas, a ship officer told CNN Friday.

    The Chinese icebreaker Xue Long, or Snow Dragon, was just six nautical miles away from the rescue, but now it's stuck in an Antarctica ice floe, too.

    The Chinese crew is hoping a French icebreaker 14 nautical miles away will arrive and offer relief, said Zhu Li, chief officer of the Chinese ship.

    But it's likely the French vessel Astrolabe will also be slowed by the polar cap's extreme frigidity, Zhu said.

    Those two icebreakers -- plus a third, from Australia -- were battling the planet's coldest environment in trying to reach the stranded Russian ship MV Akademik Shokalskiy, whose 74 researchers, crew and tourists remained in good condition despite being at a frozen standstill since Monday.

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    Antarctic sea ice demolishing old records

    By Robert On April 17, 2014 · 7 Comments

    Setting new all-time daily records Antarctic sea ice continues to grow at an alarming rate, says reader Chris Beal.

    It’s now 1,636,000 sq km above average, and continues to set new all-time daily records.


    The amount of Sea Ice for this Day/Days has never before been seen in Satellite History Records.

    https://twitter.com/NJSnowFan/status...169472/photo/1

    Sea Ice Update April 12 2014 – Global Sea Ice Over 1,158,000 sq km Above Normal! Antarctic Is Demolishing Old Records!

    http://sunshinehours.wordpress.com/2...-above-normal/

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    April 28 Antarctic Sea Ice Area Anomaly 50% Above The Previous Record

    Posted on May 1, 2014
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    Antarctic sea ice has been growing rapidly over the last 30 years, because Antarctica is getting colder.




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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    I vote we change the title of this thread.... haha


    sure seems like ice is increasing all over; maybe the progression going to be something like

    Global Warming > Climate change > Global Cooling
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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    I guess it was one of those Bill's tongue-in-cheek title pointing at the obvious, like, when it's winter at one pole, it's summer at the other...

    However, with more and more people looking at actual records... something weird is actually happening...
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