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    A close friend sent this to me today, asking if I have noticed any similar behavior in the banks in my neck of the woods. I am wondering if any Avalonians have had this experience yet.....

    "That lady that I sent the letter to, I stopped by to say hello to. She was upset, because the system she is involved in ripped her off fifty dollars. So I listened to her rant of how she was going to get her fifty bucks back. I wanted to say don't you realize how many tens of thousand of dollars Qe3 is going to personally cost you, and why aren’t you ranting and doing something about that. But I didn't. Americans are trained to go after the small and insignificant, not what is actually hurting their lives in the larger picture.

    But today something else happened, an interesting experience to take note of considering what is happening in Italy, and Sweden. Anyway, we went to collect money owed. Even though cash was requested, a check was offered. The offered check was refused, so we went to the bank with the person, a friend, so she could withdraw what was needed to pay the cash owed as previously agreed to.


    When the individual entered their bank, the person was just about accosted, as a gentleman zoomed up to her as soon as she entered, asking what business she was there for. When she answered she was there to withdraw some cash. The bank person told her she had better options than withdrawing cash from her account. He strongly suggested that she should do online banking, and transfer the funds from her account to the account to which she owed the money to. He was persistent, but she withdrew the cash anyways. I am wondering how much longer she will have that choice.


    I am glad it happened to her, as she was shocked by the experience, and always just minimized the changes happening in the system, never paying attention to the changing times of incrementally controlling more and more of the tracking of all financial transactions, no matter how small. She was always more satisfied with the convenience of electronic banking without ever thinking of eventually not having the choice of using cash or not, nor the crushing implications of what a cashless society would mean to her freedom, her privacy, her health, or her choices in making decisions for her own best interest.


    It was fairly recent when we could go to a bank and get an over the counter credit card. You gave the bank a thousand dollars, and they gave you a credit card with a thousand dollars on it to use as one would use any other credit card. Now, some banks just don't do it any more. Another bank said, that to get one of those cards now, as mandated by the federal government, one needs to produce a social security number, identification, proving residential address, and then they do a background check to see if it matches up with the data bases.


    So the masses are being overtly tracked. And soon cash will be outlawed. And anyone not in the system will not only have restricted travel, but essentially will not be able to purchase anything, not even food or medicine, all in the name of preventing terrorism, but of course, that is all just a ruse like the war on drugs.


    When there is a siege, all those outside of the castle simply has to do to capture those inside the castle is to prevent goods entering the castle, because eventually those in the castle will run out of supplies and die from starvation or dehydration, no bloodshed necessary.


    I have watched as totalitarism in America has incrementally advanced over the years. The difference between ten years ago, and today, is that it's right in our face, and no longer at arms length at some distant future confrontation. Unbelievably ignorant and apathetic Americans, over the years, were silent, uninterested witnesses to the incrementally stripping away of all the protection we had against bad government that was provided by the Constitution and the founders of America. And as I just heard on an interview today, all Americans are now boarding a train for Auschwitz. And like the Jews on those trains......................no one is speaking up.


    May Freedom Ring, and may Americans open their ears, eyes, and hearts to it before they willing are sheparded into the ovens thinking this could never happen in America, and surely someone will do something about it. Obama hasn't done anything to prevent this Cashless society. Romney won't. So only The People are left to do something about it. Do you think they will? I think I can already smell the burning flesh.

    Blessing to your freedom. May you always have choices to do what is in your best interest to do."............

    Any other experiences like this?

    Sincerely,

    Mr. Davis

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    My buddy had a junkie steal his check book and write out obviously fraudulent checks--they admitted they were not signed by him. He has been in there several time, many calls, and is getting nowhere in getting the fees assessed to his account (that were TAKEN, from his direct deposit paycheck that he is FORCED by his company's payroll system to have), let alone getting the stolen money back.

    Apparently the bank is not responsible for receiving completely fraudulent checks and handing the cash to someone it is written out to. You just have to get someone's check, make it out to yourself, go in and cash it. The schmuck you stole the checkbook from pays, the bank tells you sorry bout your luck, oh give us $37 for having an overdrawn account, and go f*ck yourself.

    It's getting blatant, shouldn't be long now--collapse of the fraudulent dollar system was waaaay beyond the fuzzy math stage at least a decade ago. Our slavemasters are good at building houses of cards, hidden behind smoke & mirrors.

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    Mr. Davis,

    Could you clarify the comment " all Americans are boarding a train for Auschwitz"? No doubt you are speaking euphemistically ( if a reference to a Nazi death camp would even qualify as a euphemism ) To what interview are you referring? Do you have a link to share?

    Regarding currency - the temporarily necessary evil - something similar to bitcoins without them being co-opted by investors of course, as a means of trading would be the first step in thwarting the impending slavery. Now how would we go about encouraging their use?

    And yes, everything is under surveillance including the words that I share with you here. We all take some risk when we join the conversation. A risk worth taking no doubt. I would suggest though, that as important as your concerns are, that there are some really big assaults being expedited that will make concerns about fiat currency versus electronic credits seem elementary. Let me just say that all of this worry about physical control, detention centers, FEMA camps and their like is completely unnecessary. If not stopped, you will do and be exactly as they wish and you won't even know that you're doing it. Please note that this is not "fear porn". This is quite real unfortunately. Given that you are here at Avalon, I am guessing that you are no longer oppressed or that you have never been ( aka awakened). Are you willing to share with me the time frame during which your eyes were opened? If you do respond or would prefer to take the conversation to PM, feel free. I will be away from the forum for about six hours but will respond.

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    Quote Posted by blake (here)
    A close friend sent this to me today, asking if I have noticed any similar behavior in the banks in my neck of the woods. I am wondering if any Avalonians have had this experience yet.....

    "That lady that I sent the letter to, I stopped by to say hello to. She was upset, because the system she is involved in ripped her off fifty dollars. So I listened to her rant of how she was going to get her fifty bucks back. I wanted to say don't you realize how many tens of thousand of dollars Qe3 is going to personally cost you, and why aren’t you ranting and doing something about that. But I didn't. Americans are trained to go after the small and insignificant, not what is actually hurting their lives in the larger picture.

    But today something else happened, an interesting experience to take note of considering what is happening in Italy, and Sweden. Anyway, we went to collect money owed. Even though cash was requested, a check was offered. The offered check was refused, so we went to the bank with the person, a friend, so she could withdraw what was needed to pay the cash owed as previously agreed to.


    When the individual entered their bank, the person was just about accosted, as a gentleman zoomed up to her as soon as she entered, asking what business she was there for. When she answered she was there to withdraw some cash. The bank person told her she had better options than withdrawing cash from her account. He strongly suggested that she should do online banking, and transfer the funds from her account to the account to which she owed the money to. He was persistent, but she withdrew the cash anyways. I am wondering how much longer she will have that choice.


    I am glad it happened to her, as she was shocked by the experience, and always just minimized the changes happening in the system, never paying attention to the changing times of incrementally controlling more and more of the tracking of all financial transactions, no matter how small. She was always more satisfied with the convenience of electronic banking without ever thinking of eventually not having the choice of using cash or not, nor the crushing implications of what a cashless society would mean to her freedom, her privacy, her health, or her choices in making decisions for her own best interest.


    It was fairly recent when we could go to a bank and get an over the counter credit card. You gave the bank a thousand dollars, and they gave you a credit card with a thousand dollars on it to use as one would use any other credit card. Now, some banks just don't do it any more. Another bank said, that to get one of those cards now, as mandated by the federal government, one needs to produce a social security number, identification, proving residential address, and then they do a background check to see if it matches up with the data bases.


    So the masses are being overtly tracked. And soon cash will be outlawed. And anyone not in the system will not only have restricted travel, but essentially will not be able to purchase anything, not even food or medicine, all in the name of preventing terrorism, but of course, that is all just a ruse like the war on drugs.


    When there is a siege, all those outside of the castle simply has to do to capture those inside the castle is to prevent goods entering the castle, because eventually those in the castle will run out of supplies and die from starvation or dehydration, no bloodshed necessary.


    I have watched as totalitarism in America has incrementally advanced over the years. The difference between ten years ago, and today, is that it's right in our face, and no longer at arms length at some distant future confrontation. Unbelievably ignorant and apathetic Americans, over the years, were silent, uninterested witnesses to the incrementally stripping away of all the protection we had against bad government that was provided by the Constitution and the founders of America. And as I just heard on an interview today, all Americans are now boarding a train for Auschwitz. And like the Jews on those trains......................no one is speaking up.


    May Freedom Ring, and may Americans open their ears, eyes, and hearts to it before they willing are sheparded into the ovens thinking this could never happen in America, and surely someone will do something about it. Obama hasn't done anything to prevent this Cashless society. Romney won't. So only The People are left to do something about it. Do you think they will? I think I can already smell the burning flesh.

    Blessing to your freedom. May you always have choices to do what is in your best interest to do."............

    Any other experiences like this?

    Sincerely,

    Mr. Davis
    I remember the previous bank I went to I ask for a withdrawal of a couple of thousand of dollars. She asked me for my id to make sure I was who I said I was. But then she said she had to get approval from the manager before she could proceed. It was approved quickly but the fact that she asked me that was bad. I inquired more about why and she said it had something to do with the account under my parent's name as well. This is was true that I started the account under my parents name but I have was 20 at this time and received full ownership of it. I don't know how long left until we can't go to the bank to receive our cash but I hope not soon.

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    I stopped using a bank back in 2007. I cash all of my paychecks at a liquor store and keep my money inside the "The Egyptian Book of the Dead." The whole banking system is corrupted and I don't know what I am going to do when cash is no longer used.

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    Its becoming an electrical dollar now so it seems. The All Wirey Dollar. Banks don't carry that kind of cash anymore. Money out of thin air.
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    Well, our new dollars in Canada, are either electronic or plastic. The funny story is that the new hundred dollar plastic bill started being used this summer and some people forgot the bill under intense summer heat (ex: the car's dashboard) and the dollar melted. True story.

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...192741119.html

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    Where I live I can :

    - Open a bank account with ONE piece of identification and NO proof of address,
    - Obtain a credit card in the same way, with no "backkground" checks, (the process wasn't without pains, but these are more due to local incomptenece than to fascism)
    - Pay cash into my account, withdraw cash from my account AS I PLEASE, without the government being notified of my activity,
    - Watch other people pay in very large sums of cash and similarly withdraw very large sums of cash. AND NO ONE BATS AN EYELID !!!
    - Pay for EVERYTHING and ANYTHING in cash, regardless of its' price
    - (just for good measure) tape a 100 yuan note to my back, walk around town for 3 hours, and then get home to find it still there.

    These are among the many many many freeedoms I wouldn't have if I still lived in "the free world".

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    Quote Posted by mariposafe (here)
    Where I live I can :
    I'm jealous .

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    Quote Posted by mariposafe (here)
    Where I live I can :

    - Open a bank account with ONE piece of identification and NO proof of address,
    - Obtain a credit card in the same way, with no "backkground" checks, (the process wasn't without pains, but these are more due to local incomptenece than to fascism)
    - Pay cash into my account, withdraw cash from my account AS I PLEASE, without the government being notified of my activity,
    - Watch other people pay in very large sums of cash and similarly withdraw very large sums of cash. AND NO ONE BATS AN EYELID !!!
    - Pay for EVERYTHING and ANYTHING in cash, regardless of its' price
    - (just for good measure) tape a 100 yuan note to my back, walk around town for 3 hours, and then get home to find it still there.

    These are among the many many many freeedoms I wouldn't have if I still lived in "the free world".
    Ironic isn't it! And here we live with blinders on thinking that it is much worst elsewhere.

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    Where I live I can :
    Is it true, mariposafe, what I recall reading somewhere recently, that the national government of China issues it's own currency, debt free, without "borrowing" it from the money lenders?

    If so, that would be one of the most stunningly convincing reasons to suspect that the Banksters of Babylon, Egypt, Macedonia, Rome, Holland, London, New York (over the last several millenia) are not in control of China's monetary system.

    That would be good news. If we can avoid planet wide devastation or another great dark age on this planet, while preserving most of our civilization's advances and at the same time thwarting the efforts of these Banksters of Babylon to gain complete control of humanity and this planet, that would be most excellent.

    (Maybe I should consider converting some of my savings into Yuan ?)

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    money is only credit. zeros on a computer.
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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Well, our new dollars in Canada, are either electronic or plastic. The funny story is that the new hundred dollar plastic bill started being used this summer and some people forgot the bill under intense summer heat (ex: the car's dashboard) and the dollar melted. True story.

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...192741119.html

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    My mind is walking on the dark side this evening. What else is the 'polymer bank notes' laced with? And I wonder if Canada has chemtrail coins, too?

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    WCBD. Re Canada's money - specifically coins - wish I could find the thread about the alien in the canoe (on the coin). Oh! Found this...



    They left out the chemtrails by mistake...

    oh bad sound on this one...sorry.

    Re banking...my bank has been sold so many times the current management is still trying to please people.
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    WCBD. Re Canada's money - specifically coins - wish I could find the thread about the alien in the canoe (on the coin). Oh! Found this...



    They left out the chemtrails by mistake...

    oh bad sound on this one...sorry.

    Re banking...my bank has been sold so many times the current management is still trying to please people.
    Oh, my Gawd...ballsy. (sp?) Like I said, I'm walkin' the dark side tonight. And loving it!

    Spelling is correct. I looked it up and here I thought I was swearing. Oh, nuts!

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    Is it true, mariposafe, what I recall reading somewhere recently, that the national government of China issues it's own currency, debt free, without "borrowing" it from the money lenders?
    Hi Paul, As far as I know that's completely true, but obviously can't guarantee it !! I've always been suspicious when people have claimed that China has a Rothschild owned central bank, the evidence before my eyes suggests otherwise. While Europe and the USA are gearing up fo a cash-free society, I can't see that happening here for at least another 20 years. Chinese people use cash, period.

    If the banks here were to treat their customers with the same arrogance that Western banks treat theirs, there'd be a riot !!

    Having worked for a large bank (sorry, they aren't banks anymore are they, they're "financial institutions") prior to leaving Britain, I can assure everyone that they've completely lost any understanding of the true relationship between bank and customer. I wish people would reempower themselves and move their money to institutions who understand that said money belongs to the customer, and behave towards them in a suitably respectful manner.

    As for investing in RMB, yes it's probably not a bad idea, along with Hong Kong Dollars and Swiss Francs. (Not that I'm an authority on money matters )

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    Interesting posts. Almost everything I do is done in cash these days. It is easy to withdraw cash from my Credit Union. The United States Post Office always offers to give me cash to spend from my debit cards when I go there to mail things. I do not use credit cards any more.

    I have had the strange experience of waiting for my Credit Union to notify Homeland Security when I have purchased something for a large sum with a cashiers check last year... that was a little weird. Somewhere in some government computer is a record that I opened a bank account in another country with this money.

    Anyway... these days all is cash in my life and there is no problem... And I live in the good ol' USA

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    Interesting thread, not at least how things work in China. I know all to little about China, obviously. But I'm curious; what's happening in Sweden and Italy in this regard?

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    If you want to see red alert go off at even a major bank, just go in and ask for $2,000 of your own money. In cash.

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    Quote Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
    If you want to see red alert go off at even a major bank, just go in and ask for $2,000 of your own money. In cash.
    Its a fear of a run on the banks, similar to the Great Depression isn't it.

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