Smoking Marijuana - thoughts?

[conk]

An old windbag like me who's had his lungs full 150,000 times can attest to this. I can still hold my breath long periods. I can slow my heart and breath down to 30beats and 1 breath per minute. I ran on a treadmill at 55 years of age and blew the mind of the 20 year old nurse testing me. So, no it won't hinder your capacity.

Now, if I could just stop doing the meth, heroin, and speedballs.......... <insert just kidding icon>

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Hehe, not to be crass, but you'd look good with a tinfoil pipe (avvie) lmao

J/K the hat is good!

I hope to be ALIVE at 55, envious of you running at that age! holy moly.
Are you that hilarious bug eyed guy in the "stop arresting medical marijuana patients" picture?



He looked fairly spry for his age... HMMMMMMMM @.@

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Hey OP...

CBD, or cannabidiol, which is a chemical of weed, kills cancer in mice and in humans (cancer.gov).
It retards the progress of neuroleptic disorders and MS, Parkinsons, all kinds of things, in fact.
It has been shown to help anorexics regain an eating schedule when ALL other drugs and approaches fail!

Asthmatics actually reap large benefits from it. People with arthritis and many other auto immune problems/infections benefit from it.
People with small lung cancers, lymphatic cancers, should totally investigate weed.

DOWNSIDE:
~altered bloodflow in brain
~too much THC for some people (lol) may lead to irritability, myopic thinking, peri psychosis. lawl but.
~short term memory loss in some people from overstimulated hippocampus
~blood sugar fluctuations
~MUNCHIES
~dehydration and vitamin loss
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IF YOU GONNA:

You gotta eat your fruits and veggies.
No amount of high can take the place of exercise.
You need sunlight no matter how comfortable the house seems.
Keep a journal or planned to counter the forgetting.
Have friends come over and keep track of you.
Keep track of your moods.
Overcome your fears.
Try to lessen dependency by being active, or by rolling joints instead of smoking indoors.
Try not to smoke in your home exclusively.
Find some friends who not only smoke but grow or do a successful business/job of some kind.

Try not to let the propaganda get you too down.
There are some mystical trade-offs for the memory loss. can't talk about that here. lOL

[soleil]

Posted by Cjay (here)

Posted by pugwash84 (here)
I have seen dealers "Dip" their weed in diesel so not all weed is good also some of them dip it in lsd which is supposed to have a different effect. Just know who you are getting it from and be careful when buying it. xxx They "Dip" it to make it expand and get more for their money. xx

Disgusting! Anyone who would do such a thing is insane, greedy and risking serious harm to the people who end up inhaling or ingesting the diesel residue. Diesel-dipped weed would smell revolting.

Illogical. Marijuana is sold by weight, not volume. Bud that has been compressed can be uncompressed with steam but then it needs to be dried again.

Sadly, the people most likely to buy that diesel-dipped poison would be kids who don't know what they are getting. Those kinds of dealers have no sense and possibly no soul.

this is just my 2 cents...perhaps this is a misunderstanding considering the strain's with 'diesel' in the name...
these are just strains that do have a diesel-y taste. but DO NOT / WERE NOT in any way 'dipped' in diesel.
for info on diesel strains, soma seeds (a grower) bred nyc diesel which of course has been interbred.
just wanted to throw that out there.


also, just want to add that i would have ever overcome my anxiety if it wasnt for MJ, and her happy love.

target, i want to agree with you that sativa's are my favorite for for happy cerebral; as well as sleep aid (although i do not need sleep aid).

i had never smoked MJ before until i was 27 yrs old too....so i speak from adult POV. and i have NEVER smoked a cigarette, nor would i ever mix the two together...

[noxon medem]

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- So (possibly) ,
know this drug , like any,
is influencing your mind .
For good and worse , that
is (basicly) what drugs do ...

And enhance yourself ..
( artificialy )

Is it the drug for You ?
I can not possibly know .

Smoking, drinking, or digesting
it in any form and way the
cannabis plant, like any "drug",
should be a question of
informed personal will .

The public denial and ban
of these natural drugs and
the way to use them , is a
fatal flaw in contemporary
socalled western culture .

(also because it profits d mafia)
!?!

Be (a) well .

nm

PS.
These remedies are potencialy
so powerful that deliverance
of personal experience (knowledge)
with the clever and traditional use
should not be inhibeted by moralism
or contemporary law , but encouraged
to share, and to shape the new "law".
( way of public viewing, and personal ..).




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[soleil]

if the mainstream, never called cannabis a 'drug', but simply a plant (wherein, we consume it however we choose - because this is a hypothetical question - therefore you as a non user do not consume it) - would you call it a drug?

or a plant?

[noxon medem]

Posted by teradactyl (here)
if the mainstream, never called cannabis a 'drug', but simply a plant (wherein, we consume it however we choose - because this is a hypothetical question - therefore you as a non user do not consume it) - would you call it a drug?
or a plant?

Interesting that the current establishment try
to outlaw some natural plants and products
that have been with us all, like , ... forever .

( - :

( & beyond ..).

The big black marked

Be well .

nm

[TargeT]

Posted by teradactyl (here)
if the mainstream, never called cannabis a 'drug', but simply a plant (wherein, we consume it however we choose - because this is a hypothetical question - therefore you as a non user do not consume it) - would you call it a drug?

or a plant?

Tough question, but since it's mostly grammar based, lets start there:

drug1 /drʌg/ Show Spelled [druhg] Show IPA noun, verb, drugged, drug·ging.
noun
1. Pharmacology . a chemical substance used in the treatment, cure, prevention, or diagnosis of disease or used to otherwise enhance physical or mental well-being.
2. a. any substance recognized in the official pharmacopoeia or formulary of the nation.
b. any substance intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease in humans or other animals.
c. any article, other than food, intended to affect the structure or any function of the body of humans or other animals.
d. any substance intended for use as a component of such a drug, but not a device or a part of a device.
3. a habit-forming medicinal or illicit substance, especially a narcotic.
4. drugs.
a. chemical substances prepared and sold as pharmaceutical items, either by prescription or over the counter.
b. personal hygienic items sold in a drugstore, as toothpaste, mouthwash, etc.
5. Obsolete . any ingredient used in chemistry, pharmacy, dyeing, or the like.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/drug

Based on that I would not call Cannabis a drug; it IS a food (a SUPER food, one of the best); it is not a "chemical" per se, but that term itself is a bit ambiguous, it is not habit-forming.. I'd say it mostly does not fit the definition.

[noxon medem]

Posted by teradactyl (here)
if the mainstream, never called cannabis a 'drug', but simply a plant (wherein, we consume it however we choose - because this is a hypothetical question - therefore you as a non user do not consume it) would you call it a drug?

- or a plant?

- read that, momentararely, as hypocritical :

(1) A person who engages in the same behaviors he condemns others for.

(2) A person who professes certain ideals, but fails to live up to them.

(3) A person who holds other people to higher standards than he holds himself.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...term=hypocrite

Interesting times .
( like it ever was )

Live all, and well .

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[soleil]

i dont see how anything i said was 'hypocritical'??

[edit]
ooh gotcha. hehehe

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by teradactyl (here)
i dont see how anything i said was 'hypocritical'??

Look at his bold words -- he just confused the two and was fessing up

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

How much weed would a weed chuck chuck if a weed chuck could chuck weed?

I guess we will have to ask the DEA... *crickets*

edit:

KNOCK KNOCK
Who's there?
THE DEA!
Oh .... ****. *FLUSH* OK COMING

P.S.
notice the gov't doesn't bash things like Porn or Hollywood (if there's a diff).
But they RAG on the RAGGED leaf!
I think potheads are more appropriate in public than for example, man-boy-relationship aficionados. etc.

[Molly]

I'm sorry but i will never agree that putting any sort of smoke into your lungs can help them. I have heard stories like what Shadowstalker said of it helping asthma but these people were taking it in oil form or vaporization. When it comes to tobacco & Mary Jane it's actually not the plants that harm you at all, it is the smoke that is caused. I don't care what any so~called "educated" doctor says, breathing in smoke isn't good for you. I don't see why people can't see the logic in that & just simply switch over to non~smoke methods like e-cigs, vaporizers, eating the hemp plants or in pill form?

[Molly]

I hear you. All there is where i live are the high-grade, indoor, hydro buds that you take 3 pulls off & you feel like you're being shot off into space, end up eating everything in the house & most likely end up with a headache after-wards. Not to mention the cost.. $120 for i think a 1/4? or is that 1/2 of a 1/4..which is even more a ridiculous charge. I haven't seen a bag of "Brown Frown" (naturally grown) in at least 5 years i'd say. I don't mind the high grade once in a while but to have it all the time is too much. I don't even use that much. I typically just need a small amount during a um.. certain time of the month &/or if i'm suffering extreme feelings of anxiety (which is rare these days, thankfully). It's sad it's still illegal here & i can't just get a small, gentle bud once in a while to help me through my PMS without breaking the law. I really think it should just be legalized EVERYWHERE by now.

[sigma6]

Posted by Molly (here)
I hear you. All there is where i live are the high-grade, indoor, hydro buds that you take 3 pulls off & you feel like you're being shot off into space, end up eating everything in the house & most likely end up with a headache after-wards. Not to mention the cost.. $120 for i think a 1/4? or is that 1/2 of a 1/4..which is even more a ridiculous charge. I haven't seen a bag of "Brown Frown" (naturally grown) in at least 5 years i'd say. I don't mind the high grade once in a while but to have it all the time is too much. I don't even use that much. I typically just need a small amount during a um.. certain time of the month &/or if i'm suffering extreme feelings of anxiety (which is rare these days, thankfully). It's sad it's still illegal here & i can't just get a small, gentle bud once in a while to help me through my PMS without breaking the law. I really think it should just be legalized EVERYWHERE by now.

I can relate, I once came across what was purported to be "Hawaiian" it was like an effervescent green, very unusual bright green, in an almost perfectly round bud with a stem that lead back to the main stick like branch (also bright green) as I recall, and we shared the tiniest 'spiffer' between at least 6 people, (like 2 puffs I think) everyone was just glowing. It was like super light, no "headiness" at all, just pure positive joy, very light, centered... I couldn't imagine a more balanced state of mind. That was well over a decade ago... made me always want to move to Hawaii after that... (lol)

I don't think there is anything wrong with an 'inhalent' as long as you put it in it's proper perspective, you are introducing a drug into your system to create, or tweak with your physical/mental 'apparatus', in this case it is THC (and 70,000 other possibly identifiable synergistic ingredients) into your bloodstream to create a systemic effect on your existing physiology. When it comes to any drug, you can swallow, apply to skin, eyes, nose, (soft tissue) inject, inhale, and there are even suppositories, the process for introducing a drug is just a function of the particular physical properties of the drug and the result one wishes to effect. It is not a food, it's a drug. So there is always a trade off by definition. This is how it should be looked at in its most fundamental terms 'imo' (have to add that these days...lol)

The body is capable of cleansing itself if properly maintained, in a healthy environment, and if any of these procedures is done with proper moderation. But that is the key isn't it... defining 'moderation' as proper application according to the nature of the drug and the desired effect. And ultimately these are all simple 'cheats' in the physical world, to compensate for something that would be equally possible to do with our minds (through proper training) I believe.

I like Dr Michael Persinger's description of the effect of 'bud'. He states it tends to 'collect' around the area of the hypothalamus, which is the seat of short term memory, and causes stimulation of the frontal cortex, the seat of all our intellectual and creative thought process. So in effect he is giving us all we need to 'apply' this drug for maximal benefit. See if you can tease out his 'secret instructions' from this video...

Dr Michael Persinger - Psychotropic Drugs And Nature Of Reality

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1b6-Pe278HA

A few insights I 'distilled' from the above:
Since creativity is potentially unlimited, how much stimulation does one need? I would say enough that you feel satisfied with the experience you are wishing to achieve, after that, it may very well be all diminishing returns... and increasing any dosage further is going to negatively affect the hypothalamus' ability to function (short term memory) There you have your systemic effect and there is your trade off.

Thus the recipe would be to take the absolute minimum amount to create a stimulation of the frontal cortex. Any additional will create the classic "stoner experience" of having extreme 'profound insights', followed by not being able to remember what you just experienced shortly thereafter! Which is completely counter productive imo (for what I would be trying to achieve). In summary, it is because "they" refuse to educate the masses - that we over indulge.

If this was understood people would be getting 10x more enjoyment, using 10x less (this would unfortunately reduce the profits of both the pharmaceuticals and the dealers!...) For example, I particularly like using it for repetitious physical labour type jobs, as it reduces inflammation, increases muscular flexibility, increases stamina and enhances the whole 'zen' of the activity. But again the refinement of the amount 'applied' is key...

And I don't think people should use it to escape, but precisely the opposite, to subtly enhance the existing present experience. Think of how cayenne is applied to a dish so you almost don't taste it, but instead just feel it's heat (btw - try this with any dish that uses cinnamon!) It almost requires an art to apply so little, but the benefits are undeniable.

[Camilo]

This is most likely the reason TPTB fight its free use world wide...

The Pineal Gland or the ‘Seat of the Soul’ as described by Rene Descartes, is the focal point of our spiritual guiding system which makes us go beyond the five senses of rationality and become multisensory, tuned into and aware of higher dimensions of consciousness within a holographic cosmos. Cannabis or Marijuana among other psychedelics facilitates the activation of the pineal gland and helps turn on the third eye or the mind’s eye directing our spiritual evolution to wholeness.

The pineal gland, located in the centre of the brain, is about a quarter of an inch in size, reddish-gray, and weighs about one-tenth of a gram. Unlike other parts of the brain which come in pairs, the pineal gland is singular. Its location in the center of the brain and presence in other species indicates it is an older part of humanity’s evolutionary brain system.

The pineal gland is present in all lower vertebrae. In other species, like birds, reptiles and frogs, the pineal gland is called the parietal eye or “third-eye” as its functions closely resemble that of an actual eye. In these other species, the pineal gland has components of an actual eye, with a cornea, rod and cone. It is considered to be the vestige of a functional sense organ of early primitive vertebrates.

Directly affected by the light taken in through the eyes, the pineal regulates sleep, menstrual cycles, mating seasons, hibernation, seasonal flight patterns and many other “instinctual” behaviors.

http://youtu.be/2pgtv1uo8Ms (9 min. video)

Tryptamine Trippiness

Psychedelic researcher Dr Rick Strassman has explained how the pineal gland “is quite active in synthesizing compounds related to serotonin, an important neurotransmitter in the brain. Neurotransmitters are the chemical messengers allowing communication among individual nerve cells. Most typical psychedelic drugs, such as LSD, mescaline, psilocybin, and DMT are active in brain sites which are also affected by serotonin. In addition, most of these drugs are similar in their chemical structure to serotonin.”

Strassman states that most of the above substances belong to the “tryptamine” class of drugs, and proposed that the pineal gland produces “one or two endogenous tryptamines found in human blood and cerebrospinal fluid. This latter fluid continually bathes the brain, and compounds found in it most likely affect brain function.”

Strassman also explains how “psychedelic drugs, meditational states, spontaneous near-death experiences and other phenomena which may induce stereotypic death/rebirth and paradisal/hellish states act via the pineal gland.

Lyttle points to the universal mystic vision of God as an all-consuming white light, and postulates that on a physiological level, this experience is produced from chemical reactions in the pineal gland which is extremely light sensitive. “Light, the eyes and the ‘third eye’ or pineal gland form a triad which directly controls and regulates normal or altered consciousness and many bodily functions? these three factors are also directly related to, or implicated in, mystical states and the ‘psychedelic’ experience.”

Visions of white light are not only associated with mysticism and psychedelic explorations, but are also a prevalent image recorded by those who experience the near-death state. A reason for this recurring theme in near-death states may be found with Dr Strassman, who suggests that after death, as the pineal gland shuts down, some of the chemical present in it may turn into “psychedelic” drugs!

According to Dr Strassman, the pineal gland may not only play an important role in death, but also in birth, possibly even in rebirth…

The pineal gland first becomes visible in the human fetus at the same time as does the clear differentiation of the fetus into female or male gender. The time for both of these events is 49 days, the period of time that, according to several Buddhist texts, the life force of a deceased individual coalesces around its next corporeal existence. If the life force does indeed enter through the pineal, the manifestation of this coming and going would be the release of psychedelic tryptamines, which would mediate the visionary experiences associated with near-death, and near-birth states.
Spiritual Traditions

Certain initiatory cults, such as Tantrism, Kundalini and Gnosticism, acknowledged the role of the pineal gland in the spiritual process. The spiritual/instinctual life force was seen as a serpent, due to its physical structure extending from the genitals, through the spine and up into its single all-seeing eye in the pineal gland.

These spiritual systems focussed around the raising of this primordial serpentine energy, based in the genitals and at the core of the pro-creative process. Through certain yogic practices this energy can be reversed and forced to travel up the spine into the brain, where it is reputed to cause “enlightenment”.

In the Kundalini system, which has seven distinct energy centers, the pineal gland has been variously identified with the “Ajna Chakra” and alternatively the “Sahasrara Chakra”. Both pre-Christian Mithraic and second century Gnostic texts also distinctly refer to the pineal gland in relation to seven distinct energy centers and this serpentine energy.

http://youtu.be/cP0yLohd49Q (10 min. video)

Not surprisingly, a common experience of those who have successfully raised their kundalini is the vision of all-consuming white light. More importantly, the devotee who successfully raises the kundalini experiences a radical switch in consciousness, obliterating the sense of individuation, and enters Nirvana.

Another potential reference to this curious little gland may occur at the end of the New Testament book of Revelation, where we find that the elect will know God intimately, “his name will be in their foreheads,” which is where the pineal deeply lies. Noting the gland’s strong connection with light, the rest of the passage is interesting: “There will be no more night; they will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light.”

Likewise in the Qabalistic tradition, the primordial archetypical man, Adam Kadmon, shines forth with a light from his forehead that was rich in complex patterns and linguistic symbols. Similar imagery occurs in the Persian tradition of the light-like sacred fluid, the “vivifying and spermatic” xvarenah. “Ahura Mazda is preeminently the possessor of xvarenah, but this ‘flame’ also springs from the forehead of Mithra and like a solar light emanates from the heads of sovereigns.”

This mind-light from the forehead is also identical with the 3rd Eye of Shiva, which when opened in the individual burns away the concept of ego-bound consciousness, and when opened collectively has the potential to burn away the ties and fetters of the Old World Order.

Perhaps if enough modern psychonauts achieve the pineal experience we can push this new frame of mind onto the rest of ego-bound humanity. Here at the turning of the millennia, in the apocalyptic year of 1999, never has the potential for the state of mind which has been the goal of yogic sages, and psychedelic voyagers alike been so possible to attain for humanity as a whole.

Source: Waking Times

Cannabis Culture

[donk]

I can tell you one thing: abusing it does nothing good for the pineal

I am not good at moderation, and can tell you chronic (pun intended) use will cloud your judgement and ability to see more than it will help.

That said, I do not disagree with anything in the OP. I think it is more of spiritual gateway than the "gateway drug" it is portrayed as. I just wish I was more responsible and had more respect for it when I fell in love with the way it made me feel.

[kesom]

hi guys
just wanna explain a bit about cannabis that might clear things up for ye

most cannabis that is for sale is a hybrid

firstly youve got indica plants and then you have sativa,you can have land race sativa or indica,all land race means is that its 100% either indica or sativa

now the thing is that as i said most cannabis around today is a hybrid cross of indica and sativa,which isnt the way the earth meant it to be !

so if you smoke crossed genetics it honestly does not work other than getting you stoned but if you smoke pure land race genetics,grown in soil with organic nutrients like canna bio for instance and preferibly outside but under hid lamps inside is ok

my advice to anyone regarding cannabis has always been not to ever buy from a street dealer,they use f'd up genetics fed on salt based nutrients,early flower and late flower boosters an need to be flushed with water for 10-14 days befor cropping to get rid of the salts,this does not happen with organic feeds
try rubbing the ash from some smoked cannabis in your fingers and if it leaves a black like oily mark,exactly like a marker your definately smokin crap,the black is from the salts that didnt dissolve during the flush

another thing is to never put tobacco in a joint,easiest way i can explain it is to say when the tobacco burns it gives off a gas and when the cannabis burns it gives off a different gas and when these 2 gases mix you get a third gas which i personally blame for all the people who snap from smoking cannabis

only get cannabis if you know the grower and know they use organic feeds but that said your better off growing your own and not get any friends done for supplying

so basically if you want a real heavy stone yo would go for land race indica's (which are the fastest and easiest growing)

then for a cerebral high you would go for sativa strain,these are more expensive,harder to grow and take up to twice as long to flower

think thats it in brief so here's a tune for ye to get ye motivated enjoy

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mYQHqLuWuig

only grow if its legal in your country and if you cant do that just dont tell anyone lol

peace and love K

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I have had some very lucid dreams and some extremely clear ESP experiences while using Marijuana.

However, I had some very high THC street weed and not the high CBD type you can buy from a store.

That was when I saw the things about the Olympics, my husband's friend being in danger, and the things about Syria.

Whirling Dervishes and Rastafarians swear by cannabis.

It is not the best drug for short term memory. Hard on the hippocampus.
But much maligned. It can cause your blood sugar to go down a bit, hence the munchies.
Can be used to control anorexia and diabetes. Not to mention schizophrenia.

It's an amazing miracle drug that even kills cancer cells by not allowing them to reproduce.
I think it breaks down harmful proteins in the blood, precursors to cancer.

Just like Lorenzo's oil, I guess.
Except it is hemp, not rapeseed oil.

[kesom]

hi tesla,i didnt explain myself fully in my last post i should have mentioned thc and cbd

sativa strains have high counts of thc and low cbd which gives you a cerebral high and indica strains have higher cbd and lower thc counts which give you a heavy stone often referred to as "couch lock"

they give sativa strains to chemo patients to relieve the sickness and it is very good with A.D.H.D. oh ya nearly forgot its great for hangover too lol

here's some other medical benefits of the strains i found on google


Effects of Indica (lower THC, higher CBN/CBD):

Ind generally more physical than cerebral (however, the relief of physical symptoms can have a positive psychological effect)
Ind sedation, pain relief and relaxation
Ind best for later in the day and bedtime
Ind perhaps better for anxiety than depression

Benefits:
Ind reduces pain
Ind muscle relaxant
Ind relieves spasms, reduces seizures
Ind reduces inflammation
Ind aids sleep
Ind reduces anxiety and stress
Ind reduces nausea
Ind stimulates appetite
Ind relieves headaches and migraines
Ind reduces intra-occular pressure
Ind bronchio-dilator and expectorant


Effects of Sativa (high THC, low CBN/CBD):

Sat more stimulating and uplifting
Sat energizing and thought provoking
Sat increases focus and creativity
Sat supports immune system
Sat best for use in daytime


Benefits:
Sat reduces nausea
Sat stimulates the appetite
Sat fights drepression
Sat positive, uplifting, cerebral effect
Sat energizes and stimulates
Sat promotes creativity
Sat relieves headaches and migraines
Sat relaxes muscles, relieves pain
Sat acts as an expectorant

i think its worth mentioning that i also think that people that take cannabis while their brains are still developing in their teens run a very high risk of mental disorders and should not touch the stuff i'd stick to ayahuasca (D.M.T.)
or mushrooms obviously were legal or just quiet/slow your thought or mind and more of your subconsious thoughts will come through

peace k