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    after seeing the quake today in Irvine, I thought it was time we start tracking fracking...

    they think cleaning the water is enough to forget they are bombing our faultlines...

    Quote IRVING, Texas, Feb. 3, 2012 — Breitling Oil and Gas Corporation, an independent exploration and production company based in Irving, Texas, will participate in “EUCI’s Hydraulic Fracturing – Regulatory Perspectives and Achieving More ROI,” held at The Ritz-Carlton on February 8-9, 2012, in Denver, Colorado.
    Breitling’s chief executive officer, Chris Faulkner, will deliver a 45-minute keynote speech entitled “Keynote Session: Balancing Compliance, Operations and Profitability” and an additional 45-minute session entitled “Can Fracturing Be ‘Green’ and Environmentally Friendly?”
    Faulkner said, “Hydraulic fracking is an extremely important topic to be discussing right now.” Faulkner added, “Breitling is making great strides in lessening the environmental impact of drilling and fracking and I am thrilled to be sharing our experiences.”
    Hey Chris, we're waiting for you to share...

    Mag 3.4 and 3.1 just a few miles from Irvine...

    try and post location photos with the quake reports...
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    what will they do when they realize there is no more oil in the ground, the plates have shifted and the fracking only makes a bad situation worse.
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    There has been so much fracking in US and elsewhere that it drove the gaz price down and it is not worth it to frack anymore in Quebec, for the moment. So it has been postpone, nothing to do wtih environmental consciousness. But you saved us from it America, at least for the moment.

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    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    what will they do when they realize there is no more oil in the ground, the plates have shifted and the fracking only makes a bad situation worse.
    Koch will stand up with his watch swinging it before Congress and convince them to drop a few nukes to blow a hole deep enough to get to the center of the earth for more oil...

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    Am in DFW area right now and there is a news story running on this... MM is not offering any explanation for these, but reporting they were '3 miles deep'. They brought up the fracking angle slyly through reporting on twitter posts about it, but the middle of densely build DFW metroplex doesn't have a bunch of rigs on it...

    What struck my mind was that, coincidentally, the country's first FEMA DUMB is about 10-15 miles north of the epicenter and is around...3 miles deep. Expansion operations, perhaps? Just sayin'

    Did y'all see that report on DutchSinse http://www.sincedutch.com/ about the coming comet? Just sayin'

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    Sorry don't mean to be thick
    but where is DFW?

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    Yes, pity on us, poor non Americans, DFW is really not an acronym we recognize.

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    Quote Posted by gigha (here)
    Sorry don't mean to be thick
    but where is DFW?
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    Yes, pity on us, poor non Americans, DFW is really not an acronym we recognize.
    Ah - finally a question I can answer: DFW is Dallas -- Fort Worth, in Texas, USA.



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    oops, sorry about that out of area folks: DFW=Dallas + Ft. Worth, Texas metroplex, where the unusual quake activity occurred.

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    An article worth reading:

    Quote How Fracking Disposal Wells Are Causing Earthquakes in Dallas-Fort Worth
    August 6, 2012 | 2:52 PM
    By Terrence Henry

    If you live in the Barnett Shale around Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas, you may have noticed the ground has become a bit shakier in the last few years. And a new study by a Univeristy of Texas seismologist says that the wells used to dispose of fracking waste water are responsible. What’s more, there have been more than eight times as many earthquakes in the area than previously thought....
    http://stateimpact.npr.org/texas/201...as-fort-worth/
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    Quote The British Government has announced it is lifting its ban on hydraulic fracturing (fracking) to extract natural gas from shale deposits. On December 13, 2012, Edward Davey, secretary of the UK Department of Energy & Climate Change (DECC), announced that exploration for shale gas using fracking can resume, subject to new controls to prevent seismic risks.

    The British government imposed the fracking moratorium in November 2011 while it investigated the events surrounding minor seismic activity (two earthquakes with magnitudes of 2.3 and 1.5) that occurred in May and April 2011 after Cuadrilla Resources Ltd. hydraulically fractured a well at its Preese Hall site in Lancashire in North West England.



    Mr. Davey, a member of the left-of-center Liberal Democrats, emphasized that the decision to lift the ban “is based on the evidence. It comes after detailed study of the latest scientific research available and advice from leading experts in the field.” Mr. Davey stated that after careful review of “the evidence with the aid of independent experts, and with the aid of an authoritative review of the scientific and engineering evidence on shale gas extraction conducted by the Royal Academy of Engineering and the Royal Society,” he “concluded that appropriate controls are available to mitigate the risk of undesirable seismic activity.
    how independent are these experts?

    appropriate controls?

    drilling a whole, lining it with cement then setting a bomb off on fault lines doesn't sound safe so they have a new answer?

    would you mind sharing, this safe operation with the world?

    without even looking this has BP written all over it...

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    Quote The report on fracking released today by the Royal Academy of Engineering (RAE) & the Royal Society omits a key consideration: the RAE’s ex-President is Lord Browne, Chairman of Cuadrilla, the UK’s leading fracker.

    Lord Browne was head of the RAE – co-author of the report – until last year. Browne owns 30% of Cuadrilla and works inside government as a non-executive director to the Cabinet Office.

    The RAE is also part funded by the oil and gas industry. In the last three years the RAE has taken Ł601,000 from ExxonMobil, Shell, BP and Petrofac (an oil services company) – all of whom have links to fracking (see the RAE’s financial reports here). Robert Mair, the Chairman of the report, is a fellow of the RAE.

    In 1992 the RAE awarded a Ł50,000 prize to 2 BP engineers for their advances in hydraulic fracturing (see p5 here).

    The influence of the oil and gas industry on the RAE has not decreased with Lord Browne’s departure. His successor – Sir John Parker – is also a scion of the fracking industry. Before taking over at the RAE, Parker headed Anglo American, which has fracking interests in in South Africa. Parker is a gas man through and through – some of his previous positions include non-executive director at British Gas, Chairman of National Grid Transco (gas & electricity distribution) and non-executive of BG Group (which has coal bed methane interests in Scotland).

    The UK government is following a familiar path of dressing up vested interests as impartial advice. In April a government-named panel of ‘experts’ recommended fracking continue – despite concerns over earthquakes. One of the panel was a member of the British Geological Survey, which is partly funded by companies involved in the hydraulic fracturing industry, including Chevron, ConocoPhillips, Exxon, BG Group and Schlumberger...
    a comment below the story...

    Quote I have read the RAE and Royal Society Report on the dangours of fracking and have the following comments on it:
    1) I disagree with the statement that fracking will be safe if the correct safety regulations are to be followed. The answer to the question Will the well annulus (cement between the steel casing and adjacent rock) fails is YES it will fail with time (see dr Barry Stevens comments to the same question).
    2) The travel time along a fracture with an aperture of 1 mm from a depth of 3 km to the surface given a hydraulic gradient of 0.1 will be less than 5 hours. For a gradient of 0.01 the travel time will still be less than 1 day. Even if we decrease the aperture to 0.1 mm with a gradient of 0.01, the travel time will be less than 1 year to reach the surface. Scary indeed and one must remember that the chemical dilution that will happen can be disregarded. Even without the fracking chemicals included, the existing brackish water at a depth of 3 km will pollute the fresh water aquifer.
    3) Scale of the problem: For a typical well pad consisting of 10 horisontal fracking wells, an area of between 400 – 700 acres will be de-gassed over a period of between 10 to 20 years. During the production phase of the wells, the wells are the preferential pathways for gas and water migration. It is only after the production phase that the real pollutant dangours regarding fresh water pollution will become a reality. Now the brackish water which could contain nasty fracking chemicals and NORMs is looking gor other preferential flow paths like cracked well annuli, faults and fractures. And even weak eartquakes can cause the cement annulus to form small cracks. Just imagine all the massive “aquifers” that contain bad water lying underneath the gas sites and there could be thousands of it! And a typical thickness of such a man-mad aquifer will be between 100 – 400 ft.

    Prof Gerrit van Tonder, Institute for Groundwater Studies, Free State University, Bloemfontein, South Africa

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    I was checking out the Quake Cluster off Georia's shore in the Black Sea, and once again, Fracking...

    they are having a huge economics meeting to get all the countries involved so no one can complain, because it is "completely, totally and absolutely safe..."

    the can't argue with the quake maps, they try to secretly drill and quakes go off, they shut it down and say wasn't us... and quakes stop...

    I want to know what safety features are available that aren't being used...

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    Colonial exploitation of Africa continues as fracking comes to Africa, with the myth that it will create jobs (yes, for overseas contractors and workers, not locals, except as minimum wage 'gardners' and 'housemaids'!):

    Here's a good article that clearly explains the dangers of fracking (other thyan earthquakes): http://www.karoospace.co.za/karoo-sp...de-to-fracking

    Thanks for this thread, and I would appreciate all data that anyone can share so that I can try to add this threat of earthquakes to the debate by passing on information to an anti-fracking group.

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    A uk site on it: http://frack-off.org.uk/fracking-hell/frontline/

    Its all just going to lead to some disaster somewhere.
    Thankfully I'm far from any of it going on, I don't think the county even has much of anything or any room for such a site.

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    these quakes are getting close to the volcano area with pressure building...




    Sun activity is quiet, one popped after passing, but a very active spot is swinging towards us now...

    Solar streams have been pointed directly at earth the last few days but the energy hasn't reached us yet...

    has anyone checked this area for Fracking yet?

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    RT did a big report on Frack U Cheney tonight...

    a movie is about to roll out and the oil companies haven't been able to stop it from being released...

    I'll post a link when I find it...

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    they have it on their website now...

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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    they have it on their website now...

    Frack U Cheney
    Communities’ fracing votes seen as first round in Colorado fight
    WASHINGTON, DC, Nov. 7
    11/07/2013 Oil and Gas Journal

    "Approval by majorities of voters on Nov. 5 in three Colorado Front Range communities of moratoriums or bans of hydraulic fracturing was only the first round of a potentially statewide battle, Colorado Oil & Gas Association Pres. Tisha Schuller said on Nov. 6."

    “With the passage of these bans, antifracking groups backing these types of moratoriums and bans will likely seek out additional cities to target, with the possibility of a state-wide ban finding its way onto the 2014 Colorado ballot. Despite the prolific oil and gas operations in the state, Colorado continues to be ground zero in the battle over fracking.”

    "About 76% of the votes in Boulder supported extending the city’s fracking moratorium for 5 years, while 55% of the ballots cast in Fort Collins farther north supported a new 5-year ban. Some 58% of the voters in Lafayette backed banning the process permanently.

    "Voters in a fourth community, Broomfield, narrowly defeated a proposal to ban fracking and prohibit the disposal or open pit storage of solid or liquid wastes connected to the process for 5 years. The margin, which was 13 votes on election night, potentially could be erased or expanded by absentee votes which will be accepted through Nov. 13."

    Major production areas (wells) in Colorado as of 2012:


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    Hi Bob,

    that's great news, it is about time people stand up against their bought and paid for politicians to say STOP Fracking Killing us...

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