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    The big question now is how we deal with this type of disclosure.
    If we are not careful, an already hurting planet is going to be further sent into the spiraling depression.
    Negative thoughts/attacks will have that effect.

    How do we use the evil power of these sick individuals to heal the planet not damage it even further?

    Firstly we must control any negative thoughts towards this disclosure. No hate, pity, shame, guilt etc.

    We need to trust that there are people out there that can use the negative power of disclosure and recycle it (with want for a better word) into a positive energy that Can and Will heal the planet.

    People who have yet not tapped into this can help by finding justification in the actions of these people. The less negative energy is sent out to these people the easier it is too balance the scales.

    You must try to forgive these evil people.
    They are weak, laughably weak!

    We can be strong by dealing with it in a positive manner. It is very hard to change negative into a positive when you are entangled in a negative web. But you must trust that there are enough of us out there who can recycle this energy and you must let them deal with it.

    Have trust in yourself that you can help by justifying their actions and allowing yourself to deal with this disclosure in a way that will help everyone. Forgive them.

    The big picture is SICK and it will get sicker the more disclosure happens but it is difficult to allow disclosure in it's full form until people can cope with it.

    If you can handle it the truth is out there, but don't go looking if your response to it is going to be hatred and revenge.

    Harriet Harmand who is now leading the public investigation into Jimmy Saville does not seem the appropriate person to be doing this her history stinks!

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/da...d-paedophilia/

    Have forgiveness.
    Zoe x
    Here's more.....
    No one is saying that you will not feel negatively towards the truth but how you deal with it will put you onto whichever path you have chosen. Acknowledge the negative emotions that arise, do not block them out for they will hide deep within.
    Face the facts and realize that now we know about them we can do something positive about it.
    Why not put your energy into requesting someone else leads the investigation into paedophilia?

    http://labour25.com/

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    I feel the need to bump this thread keep it in public awareness. The times they are a changin' and with all that has been revealed so far, in so many areas, it bodes well that the whole truth, the whole sworded shooting match is coming to the surface for exposure.
    Thank you to all who have contributed to this thread.
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    More BBC staff probed on sex claims
    AAP Updated October 24, 2012, 4:48 am

    http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshom...on-sex-claims/

    A sexual abuse scandal shaking the BBC has broadened, with the broadcaster's chief saying the corporation was investigating claims of abuse and harassment against as many as 10 former and current staff.

    The BBC has been rocked by allegations that longtime children's host Jimmy Savile, who died last year, abused underage teens over several decades, sometimes on BBC premises. Some of the alleged victims have accused other entertainers and BBC staff of participating in abuse during the 1960s, 70s and 80s.

    Director-general George Entwistle told British MPs on Tuesday that the BBC is looking into historical allegations of sexual abuse or harassment against "between eight and 10" past and present employees.

    Separately, the BBC press office said it was aware of "nine allegations of sexual harassment, assault or inappropriate conduct" involving current staff or contributors to the BBC, which employs some 20,000 people.

    Entwistle said it was too early to say whether sexual abuse had been endemic within Britain's publicly funded national broadcaster, but insisted the BBC would assist police if detectives chose to investigate whether there had been a pedophile ring at the corporation.

    Entwistle acknowledged there had been "a problem of culture within the BBC ... a broader cultural problem" that allowed Savile's behaviour to go unchecked.

    "There is no question that what Jimmy Savile did and the way the BBC behaved ... will raise questions of trust for us and reputation for us," Entwistle said. "This is a gravely serious matter, and one cannot look back at it with anything other than horror."

    Entwistle's testimony before the House of Commons Culture, Media and Sport committee came a day after the BBC aired a powerful documentary about the corporation's role in the expanding sex abuse scandal involving Savile, who died a year ago at age 84.

    Since Savile's death, scores of women and several men have come forward to say the entertainer - a longtime host of music and children's programs including Top of the Pops and Jim'll Fix It - abused them when they were children or teenagers. Police have identified more than 200 potential victims.

    The BBC, one of the world's largest and most respected broadcasters, is under fire for failing to stop the abuse and for pulling an expose on Savile from TV schedules at the last minute in December. The sex allegations were later aired on the rival ITV network.

    The head of the BBC's Newsnight program, Peter Rippon, has been suspended pending an investigation of his decision to scrap the Savile story.

    Monday's documentary, which was watched by more than five million people, presented the unusual spectacle of BBC journalists grilling their own bosses about why the piece had been dropped.

    In an attempt to get to the bottom of the story, the parliamentary committee spent two hours on Tuesday questioning Entwistle, who has been in the BBC's top job for just a month, after years in senior news and current affairs roles.

    It may also want to question his predecessor, Mark Thompson, who led the organisation at the time the Newsnight report was yanked. Thompson was appointed chief executive of the New York Times Co in August and is due to take up the post next month.

    Entwistle insisted the BBC was not complacent about sexism, and had hired a senior lawyer to look at how it handles sexual harassment cases.

    "I do believe the culture has changed since the 70s and 80s," Entwistle said. "But I'm not convinced it has changed as much as it should have."

    He said Savile had been "a very skilful and successful sexual predator who covered his tracks."

    "These things are institutionally, it seems, very difficult to deal with," he said.

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    Quote Posted by DevilPigeon (here)
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    I'm still wondering which other high-profile people will be exposed eventually, considering that there seems to anecdotal testimony interlaced in the programmes so far suggesting so...
    I am also wondering the same

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    Quote Posted by DevilPigeon (here)
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    I'm still wondering which other high-profile people will be exposed eventually, considering that there seems to anecdotal testimony interlaced in the programmes so far suggesting so...
    I am also wondering the same
    Apart from Saville , Gary Glitter , Wilfred Bramble ( Father in steptoe & son) and Freddie Starr have been mentioned so far ...




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    This interview is surreal, Freddie has a girlfriend 'litterly' half his age .
    Fair enough perfectly fine, but it does show he likes younger woman.
    Sophie says she knew Freddie for years and was in a vulnerable place
    when she started seeing him. A poor choice of words under the circumstances
    but we will have to see !!



    CROCKED I’m A Celebrity comic Freddie Starr is to become a dad again at 68 after slipping between the sheets with a singer half his age.

    The funnyman hooked up with Sophie Lee, 34, last year and they plan to marry.

    Now The Sun can reveal Sophie is pregnant with Freddie’s child.

    The impressionist, who had bypass surgery last year after a heart attack, already has five children.

    News of his latest addition comes after producers ruled him out of I’m A Celeb following his collapse in the Aussie jungle with a severe allergic reaction.

    Freddie had at first joked with pals that Sophie was his CARER.


    Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz2A9dFapKk

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    If Harriet Harmand believes that participating in the distribution of pornographic images should be legal, she belongs to a long list of deranged individuals that mustn't be allowed to be in a position of trust within society.

    Slowly but surely the scab is being picked from the wound and revealing the pus.
    It is only when the pus is visible that the antibiotics can work.

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    It's chronic pain that prevents the gateway opening.

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    I think this is a different article about Harriet.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...raphy-law.html
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    15mins in Alex asks David to connect the dots to the Elites, satanic , peodophile tendancies and rituals !!

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    http://the-tap.blogspot.co.uk/2011/1...-paradise.html








    The ones at the top were protected by Blair when Operation Ore hit Westminster. Google 'operation ore' 'cover up' Blair. Blair's governments were packed with perverts, like himself.

    In 1999, an international investigation of child pornographers and paedophiles run by Britain’s National Criminal Intelligence Service, code named Operation Ore, resulted in 7,250 suspects being identified in the United Kingdom alone. Some 1850 people were criminally charged in the case and there were 1451 convictions. Almost 500 people were interviewed “under caution” by police, meaning they were suspects. Some 900 individuals remain under investigation. In early 2003, British police began to close in on some top suspects in the Operation Ore investigation, including senior members of Blair’s government.

    However, Blair issued a D-Notice, resulting in a gag order on the press from publishing any details of the investigation. Blair cited the impending war in Iraq as a reason for the D-Notice. Police also discovered links between British Labour government paedophile suspects and the trafficking of children for purposes of prostitution from Belgium and Portugal (including young boys from the Casa Pia orphanage in Portugal).

    Paedophilia to become legal

    Paedophiles are the next group of 'persecuted victims' that will become untouchable. Sociologists will refer to criticism of paedophiles as ignorant 'moral panic' and the public will be silenced with new diversity legislation, which all three parties will miraculously support, because they are all managed from behind the scenes. After that, with the poverty that is resulting from the Rothschilds' bailouts, parents will be expected to sell their children into prostitution, as in Thailand, so that progressive politicians like Peter Mandelson can get their hands on them.

    Best regards,

    Gordon

    TAP - horrible topic, but one which explains why our top politicians have mostly been traitors, bar a very few. As you say, Gordon, they are selected because they are child rapists, and have to comply with the wishes of the powerful, or be exposed. The link between Blair's fondness for child abuse and his rush to start the Iraq war is instructive. His using a former child sex slave was his denouement. When Gordon Logan revealed that Blair had borrowed one of George Bush's favourite male prostitutes at The White House, Johnnie Gosch (Guckert, Gannon), the Germans were no longer willing to back his bid to be President of Europe.

    That said, Belgium does appear to be a world centre for child abuse and abduction, and the EU's current President has to be another suspect.
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    Jimmy Savile 'Was A Necrophiliac' Claims Former BBC Radio Colleague Paul Gambaccini


    PA/The Huffington Post UK | Posted: 23/10/2012 18:08 BST Updated: 23/10/2012 21:08 BST

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...n_2005896.html

    Jimmy Savile's former BBC radio colleague Paul Gambaccini claimed on Tuesday it was known among staff that the late presenter targeted vulnerable, "institutionalised" young people.

    And he alluded to claims Savile had been involved in "necrophilia" and questioned why newspapers had failed to run stories about suspicions while he was alive.

    Gambaccini worked with Savile at Radio 1 where he had first heard stories about his abuse of under-age girls.




    Gambaccini said the problems with failing to call Savile to account went well beyond the BBC



    He told Radio 5 Live presenter Nicky Campbell on Tuesday that he used a "politically incorrect" term to categorise the people to whom Savile devoted his attentions.

    "The expression I came to associate with Savile's sexual partners was either one used by production assistants or one I made up to summarise their reports ... 'under-age subnormals'," said Gambaccini.

    "He targeted the institutionalised, the hospitalised - and this was known. Why did Jimmy go to hospitals? That's where the patients were."

    But he said these things were taking place at a time when staff failed to get to grips with the concept of paedophilia.

    "It was considered so far beyond the pale that people didn't believe it happened," he said during the 5 Live Breakfast Show.

    And he said the problems with failing to call Savile to account went well beyond the BBC.

    He questioned why newspapers had not acted when he said a tabloid reporter had boasted that his colleagues were aware of a story linking Savile to "necrophilia".

    Campbell pointed out: "That particularly lurid accusation that you have just brought to people's attention is one that has not been in the public domain."

    Gambaccini agreed and asked "why not?" And he asked: "Who vetted the knighthood? Coco the clown?"

    He said the entire society was taken in by Savile - "including the prime minister who invited him to Chequers; including the royal family, photographed with him, he got a knighthood in this country, he got a papal knighthood.

    "This is not just the BBC this is history, this is a man who conned an entire society," Gambaccini added.

    It came as the BBC Director General George Entwistle was accused by MPs of failing to "get a grip" and compared to James Murdoch during a stormy select committee session in the wake of the Savile sex abuse allegations, after which the culture secretary said the scandal raised "very real concerns" about public trust in the BBC.

    In a letter to Lord Patten, the chairman of the BBC Trust, Maria Miller said: "Following today's select committee hearing and the revelations that have emerged about the factual inaccuracies in the BBC's explanation about why the Savile item in Newsnight was pulled, very real concerns are being raised about public trust and confidence in the BBC.

    "In all our conversations we have talked about the paramount importance of full public trust in the BBC's inquiries and agreed that it is essential that licence fee payers can be assured that they are being conducted thoroughly and with the full cooperation of the BBC, in line with the Trust's duty to 'ensure that the BBC observes high standards of openness and transparency'."

    Ms Miller said it was "vital that these inquiries are able to follow the evidence wherever it takes them" and welcomed Lord Patten's "commitment" that would happen.

    In a letter responding to Mrs Miller tonight, Lord Patten wrote: "You know how seriously the Trust takes the allegations surrounding Jimmy Savile and the need to maintain public trust in the BBC."

    He said the inquiries would be "comprehensive and independent", adding: "You have recognised both the credibility and the scope of those who are leading the inquiries and the wide scope of their terms of reference."

    But the peer also delivered a thinly-veiled warning that the government should not wade into the row.

    "I know that you will not want to give any impression that you are questioning the independence of the BBC," he wrote.

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    This is what i was listening to when I rang the BBC radio 5 live , to highlight
    The Holly Greig & Robert Green case !!
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    Allegations that Jimmy Saville presented young boys to a prime minister took on a new development yesterday.

    Prime Minister: David Cameron was asked yesterday in the house on commons which prime minister aide had been involved in a paedophile ring.

    Tom Watson, Labour MP, told the House of Commons there was "clear intelligence" suggesting a notorious group was connected to a former Number 10 aide, during prime minister's questions on Wednesday.

    David Cameron said he would look at the case "very carefully and see what the government can do to help".

    "You raise a very difficult and complex case and I'm not sure which former prime minister he is referring to. But what I would like to do is to look very carefully in Hansard as to the allegations you have made, the case that you have raised … and to see what the government can do to give you the assurances you seek," the prime minister added.



    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...ink-parliament

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    Quote Allegations that Jimmy Saville presented young boys to a prime minister took on a new development yesterday.

    Prime Minister: David Cameron was asked yesterday in the house on commons which prime minister aide had been involved in a paedophile ring.

    Tom Watson, Labour MP, told the House of Commons there was "clear intelligence" suggesting a notorious group was connected to a former Number 10 aide, during prime minister's questions on Wednesday.

    David Cameron said he would look at the case "very carefully and see what the government can do to help".

    "You raise a very difficult and complex case and I'm not sure which former prime minister he is referring to. But what I would like to do is to look very carefully in Hansard as to the allegations you have made, the case that you have raised … and to see what the government can do to give you the assurances you seek," the prime minister added.
    Thanks Mahalall I suspect this is Ted Heath ? I'd be very surprised if those documents come to the surface !!

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    FYI : Concerning Ben Fellows:
    'So when the publisher of 21st Century Wire received an email from the Cabinet Office yesterday evening – let’s say that I for one wasn’t surprised. The email protested Kenneth Clarke’s innocence so vehemently that it was even denying things that Ken Clarke had never been accused of – at least not by me.

    Kathryn Laing, Special Advisor to Kenneth Clarke in the Cabinet Office said :
    Please Could you remove the comments about Ken Clarke from the following posts on your website : HYPERLINK
    For the record – my allegation is that Ken Clarke touched my penis over my trousers when he had been told I was fifteen years old. I was actually nearer eighteen but was playing the part of a fifteen year old for The Cook Report. Incidentally Kathryn on Ken’s behalf states that Kenneth wasn’t involved in “Cash for Questions”. Well I never said he was or that he had ‘dealings’ with Ian Greer.
    Read more here :

    http://www.maxfarquar.com/2012/10/be...enneth-clarke/

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    Understanding influences that makes senior members of the British ( and Global) establishment vulnerable to such predatory behaviour/characters (Naga spirit to one side). One may look at schooling.

    Eton the school that connects the ruling classes, whether they hold sway over the worlds of politics, the arts, a regiment, a boardroom (1)

    Norman Routledge was a schoolmaster and eventually a housemaster at Eton College, for 30 years.
    In this honest account (albeit naively) he shares his understanding,
    http://www.webofstories.com/play/52164

    (1)http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...rk-518455.html

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    Well Tom Watsons question has been picked up by the written press.
    Maybe the dam has burst !!


    Was there a paedophile ring in No 10? MP Tom Watson demands probe



    A powerful paedophile network may have operated in Britain protected by its connections to
    Parliament and Downing Street, a senior Labour politician suggested yesterday.
    Speaking from the back benches of the House of Commons, Tom Watson, the deputy
    chairman of the Labour Party, called on the Metropolitan Police to reopen a closed criminal
    inquiry into paedophilia.Indicating his anxiety that there had been an establishment cover-up,
    Mr Watson referred to the case of Peter Righton, who was convicted in 1992 of importing and
    possessing illegal homosexual pornographic material.Righton, a former consultant to the National
    Children’s Bureau and lecturer at the National Institute for Social Work in London, admitted two
    illegal importation charges and one charge of possessing obscene material. He was fined £900.

    At Prime Minister’s Questions, Mr Watson said the evidence file used to convict Righton
    “if it still exists, contains clear intelligence of a widespread paedophile ring”.
    He told a hushed Commons: “One of its members boasts of a link to a senior aide of a
    former Prime Minister, who says he could smuggle indecent images of children from abroad.
    “The leads were not followed up, but if the files still exist, I want to ensure that the
    Metropolitan Police secure the evidence, re-examine it, and investigate clear intelligence
    suggesting a powerful paedophile network linked to Parliament and No 10.”

    In the aftermath of Mr Watson’s remarks, media outlets speculated that he was referring
    to the late former Prime Minister Sir Edward Heath – who was the subject of unsubstantiated
    rumours about sex with under-age boys – or to Sir Peter Morrison, a former Downing Street
    aide who died in 1995.However, The Independent understands that Mr Watson’s comments
    were not aimed at either Sir Edward or Sir Peter, but at a living person associated with
    Margaret Thatcher’s administration.They are thought to involve the activities of the Paedophile
    Information Exchange, a pro-paedophile group in existence between 1974 and 1984, which
    believed there should be no age of consent.Responding to the remarks, David Cameron said
    the MP had raised “a very difficult and complex case”, adding he was unclear which former
    Prime Minister Mr Watson was referring to.Criticising the BBC’s record on Savile – who was
    never caught and died last year aged 84, the Prime Minister said: "These allegations do leave
    many institutions - perhaps particularly the BBC - with serious questions to answer -I think
    above all the question, 'How did he get away with this for so long?'.”

    He told MPs: "The most important thing is that the police investigation is properly resourced and is allowed to continue.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-8224702.html

    http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2...o-no-10-claim/

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...watson-1398159

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...aedo-ring.html
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    Theres a 10 minute vid on link below where the Police spokesman says the
    climate is right to go after these people however powerfull they are !!

    We will see if they look at the work of researchers on this such as Robert Green,
    David Icke and others !!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20081021



    Peter Spindler, Met Police: "It is quite staggering the number of people that have come forward"


    25 October 2012 Last updated at 16:32

    The number of possible sexual abuse victims of Jimmy Savile has risen to 300, Scotland Yard has confirmed.

    It is thought the TV presenter and DJ, who died last year aged 84, may have abused scores of young girls and some boys over a 40-year period.

    Police have so far spoken to 130 victims and officers have recorded 114 allegations.

    Savile's great-niece Caroline Robinson has accused him of sexually abusing her when she was 12.

    Met Police Commander Peter Spindler described the police inquiry as a "watershed" moment in the investigation of child abuse. He praised the media for exposing Savile "for what he was."

    He said Savile was "undoubtedly" one of the most prolific sex offenders of recent history, and the weight of evidence from victims against the late DJ was overwhelming.

    "We have to believe what they are saying because they are all saying the same thing independently," Cdr Spindler said.

    Labour leader Ed Miliband has reiterated calls for an independent inquiry into the affair.

    However, Andrew Lansley, the Leader of the Commons, wants the police investigation and independent reviews by the BBC and NHS to be allowed to run their course.

    Arrest strategy

    The police inquiry, Operation Yewtree, has identified 300 victims - up from 200 last week - and is looking at 400 lines of inquiry. All but two of the victims are female.

    Police said they had spent nine hours interviewing Karin Ward, one of the first victims to speak publicly.

    Ms Ward, who was a pupil at Duncroft approved school for girls in Surrey, alleged that she was sexually abused by Savile during her time there.

    She was interviewed for the BBC's Newsnight programme on 14 November last year, but the interview was only shown for the first time on Panorama this week as the Newsnight investigation was shelved.

    Police were looking at three catergories of crime: Savile committing abuse on his own; Savile with others; and other people committing abuse. The type of crime ranged from inappropriate touching to rape, Cdr Spindler said.

    A number of living people were under investigation but exact figures have yet to emerge.


    'High standing'

    Mr Spindler said a retired officer had been in touch to say he had investigated Savile in the 1980s while based in west London but he had not had the evidence to proceed.

    He said he believed the allegation was of an indecent assault on BBC premises but officers have still not found the original file.

    Sources close to Scotland Yard's investigation said they were also looking at "figures of high standing" who might have helped Savile.

    Cdr Spindler said there was no evidence of a paedophile ring involving Savile. He described the offenders as "opportunist individuals".

    But it is thought investigations are looking at those who may have assisted Savile, helped organise abuse, cover it up or taken part in assaults themselves.

    Savile was a household name in the 1970s and 1980s as the host of popular Saturday evening programme Jim'll Fix It and he also presented Top of The Pops and a number of other programmes.

    'Mirror image'

    A great-niece, Caroline Robinson, has told BBC Radio 5 Live she was abused by him when she was 12.

    Mrs Robinson, who is now 49, said: "When I was reading about the victims in the paper it was like reading a mirror image of what I went through."

    She added: "When I was 12... he asked me to sit on his knee and he said 'what can Jimmy do for you?' and I said 'Can I see the Bay City Rollers?' who were my favourite group at the time."

    Mrs Robinson said Savile got sexually excited as she sat on his knee and put his hands in her underwear.

    She said she ended up running upstairs in tears but she said she never told her parents what had happened.

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    Quote Eton's old boy network
    Terry Kirby looks at the school that connects the ruling classes, whether they hold sway over the worlds of politics, the arts, a regiment, a boardroom or merely the odd nation
    As you know this is the basis of many alternate researchers work , the public schools where by definition the wealthy send their children to get away from the 'plebs' and get unfair
    privileges than the rest of society from the start. This is the same in the US with Scull & Bones and other supposed 'innocent' societies which make up the ruling class of the 'FED'....


    as they are all related and interbreed . I find it implausible to believe all the Presidents of the US bar one are related to the Royal Family!!

    Infact by definition as all the royal bloodlines intermarried over the centuries
    the Presidents are probably related to all European illuminati families !

    This is where to call America the land of the 'Free' was a false premise
    as with all nationalities and common 'Plebs' that make up the States,
    surely by now this should have been exposed as the fraud it is !!

    This is why the US has been Screwed ......If normal Americans ran
    the country , things would be different!

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    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-are-overseas.
    I found this link an absolute 'eye-opener'
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    I've heard a number of interviews and seen several articles alluding that Savile had fooled/hoodwinked everyone, especially people in the public eye such as ministers, celebrities, royalty etc... Whilst this may be the case for some, I don't think it's such a black-and-white problem, ie I think it's dangerous and foolish to have the assumption that everyone was fooled. No matter where any investigations lead and who they connect to, they need to be followed through without prejudice.

    My worry is that if a lead points to someone "high up" in the food chain then attempts may be made to divert or sweep it under the carpet, so to speak.
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    Quote I've heard a number of interviews and seen several articles alluding that Savile had fooled/hoodwinked everyone, especially people in the public eye such as ministers, celebrities, royalty etc... Whilst this may be the case for some, I don't think it's such a black-and-white problem, ie I think it's dangerous and foolish to have the assumption that everyone was fooled. No matter where any investigations lead and who they connect to, they need to be followed through without prejudice.

    My worry is that if a lead points to someone "high up" in the food chain then attempts may be made to divert or sweep it under the carpet, so to speak.
    This is exactly what happened on Channel 4 news tonight they said Saville had been reported to police manytimes over the years , but for various reasons it never went
    further.But as with Robert Green in scotland now , when you get close to the elites they 'Pull the plug' and have done this all over the world.
    This potentially, with the web is the best oppertunity ever to expose these bloodlines that run the world !

    I don't think this will happen, but maybe this is the start of everyone realising that alternate researchers like David Icke are not making this stuff up !!



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    Quote I've heard a number of interviews and seen several articles alluding that Savile had fooled/hoodwinked everyone, especially people in the public eye such as ministers, celebrities, royalty etc... Whilst this may be the case for some, I don't think it's such a black-and-white problem, ie I think it's dangerous and foolish to have the assumption that everyone was fooled. No matter where any investigations lead and who they connect to, they need to be followed through without prejudice.

    My worry is that if a lead points to someone "high up" in the food chain then attempts may be made to divert or sweep it under the carpet, so to speak.
    This is exactly what happened on Channel 4 news tonight they said Saville had been reported to police manytimes over the years , but for various reasons it never went
    further.But as with Robert Green in scotland now , when you get close to the elites they 'Pull the plug' and have done this all over the world.
    This potentially, with the web is the best oppertunity ever to expose these bloodlines that run the world !

    I don't think this will happen, but maybe this is the start of everyone realising that alternate researchers like David Icke are not making this stuff up !!
    I totally agree. As heinous as this entire episode is, I hope that given the widespread multi-media coverage it's getting, "pulling the plug" will be nigh on impossible to do, and that anyone involved is brought to justice.
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