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    Default David Cameron Rejects EU Referendum

    No surprise here Mr. Cameron say no to an EU Referendum.,

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    I can't find another UK/EU referendum thread to put this in.

    This video makes me angry. It's a so called academic who specialises in EU issues banging on about why staying in the EU is the right thing to do.

    To my mind, it's all clap trap, but I think there are a lot of British people who are hypnotised by this kind of thing.

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    Default Re: David Cameron Rejects EU Referendum

    HELP Needed, urgentish.

    I read somewhere recently, or I might have heard it in an interview, that the mastermind of the EU revealed in a private letter to one of his friends that the plan for EU would have to be kept secret until all the member states were committed.

    I'm in the middle of an email exchange with someone I told about this to. Obviously, I've now been asked to produce that letter.

    Can anyone here direct me to an online version of that letter?
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    Default Re: David Cameron Rejects EU Referendum

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    HELP Needed, urgentish.

    I read somewhere recently, or I might have heard it in an interview, that the mastermind of the EU revealed in a private letter to one of his friends that the plan for EU would have to be kept secret until all the member states were committed.

    I'm in the middle of an email exchange with someone I told about this to. Obviously, I've now been asked to produce that letter.

    Can anyone here direct me to an online version of that letter?
    I know that Dr JP Farrell has documented this letter in his books, and has spoken of it in numerous interviews. IIRC, it was his book titled The Third Way.

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    Default Re: David Cameron Rejects EU Referendum

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    This video makes me angry. It's a so called academic who specialises in EU issues banging on about why staying in the EU is the right thing to do.
    That's like a specialist in gasoline-powered engines arguing why we must never abandoned gasoline as automobile fuel.

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    Default Re: David Cameron Rejects EU Referendum

    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    HELP Needed, urgentish.

    I read somewhere recently, or I might have heard it in an interview, that the mastermind of the EU revealed in a private letter to one of his friends that the plan for EU would have to be kept secret until all the member states were committed.

    I'm in the middle of an email exchange with someone I told about this to. Obviously, I've now been asked to produce that letter.

    Can anyone here direct me to an online version of that letter?
    I think you are referring to something by Jean Monnet. I only heard about this very recently on the forum, but a search comes up with this older post:
    Quote Posted by Wood (here)
    It might be interesting to have a thread to post random bits of NWO gibberish in the mainstream media. No new data really but hard examples to refer to.

    I was just reading this interesting article from the english edition of spiegel.de when I found this gem:
    Quote It was Jean Monnet, the son of a cognac merchant, who, in 1950, drafted the plan to bring together Western European heavy industry under the umbrella of the European Coal and Steel Community, which later turned into the European Union. In supporting the plan, Paris sought to protect itself from German economic power and political revenge. It also enabled then-German Chancellor Konrad Adenauer to break through Germany's international isolation.

    Monnet, who is considered a "father of Europe," wanted to guide European countries into a super-state "without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose." Apparently the fathers of the euro acted in accordance with the same philosophy later on. The new currency became a vehicle for further integration, and the EU became a monetary union -- but not an economic, let alone a political, union. As a result, the current financial crisis is too much to handle for the continent and the EU colossus.


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