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    Default Do you want to come back, and why?

    If you had the choice to return to Earth for yet another life, would you choose to return?

    Most people that read here agree, including me, that things are messed up here, big time.

    There are a lot of good people here but the power is in the hands of people that don't understand the meaning of compassion and justice.

    There is a buddhist concept of the enlightened soul that has earned the right to never again return to this difficult world but he-she chooses to return again and again until all souls are enlightened.

    From my low level of enlightenment, it's hard for me to imagine that I wouldn't choose to get the hell out of here if I obtained the flight ticket.

    Would you return to this world, even if you were allowed to leave here forever? But honest, please.

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    Default Re: Do you want to come back, and why?

    I wouldn't assume that other existences/dimensions/worlds are any easier to live by. That's a salesman's job.

    But indeed, this place is ****ing difficult.
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    Default Re: Do you want to come back, and why?

    If I could help one soul an infinitesimal way along the path towards truth and love, I would return. I am living this life, not for myself, but for others. Yet I have been through some of the most difficult of times and would not wish my lifetime upon my worst enemy (as a turn of phrase). Yet, do you not know? Only love is. All of this pain and suffering simply does not exist! It is difficult for me to admit that I would go through this immense hardship at the drop of a hat for the sake of others, yet there it is. Only when the last soul has returned Home will I be content to rest.

    Why?

    Because I love you.

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    I would come back, and hopefully come back as a Donald Trump and change the world , eliminate world hunger, no one homeless, flat taxes, the law applies to everyone and 2 yr term limits , no drilling in the ground for any minerals, oil , etc. This would be my condition, if I can change the world , then yes I would return.
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    Default Re: Do you want to come back, and why?

    Guess I'd have to defer that choice to when it's a real choice.
    I could pretend altruism now as an excuse. It'd be more like the addiction to suffering. I'll get off the wheel first thanks.
    There may be more important things to do.

    Funny though, when we're bound we forget how it feels to be free.
    When we're free we forget how it feels to be bound.
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    Default Re: Do you want to come back, and why?

    If it was a matter of choice, of course I'd come back. How could I not return if there was a possibility that I could help relieve the suffering of even just one person?

    Kathie

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    Default Re: Do you want to come back, and why?

    From the perspective of the ego, the earth in this point in time may appear as a horrible place to be alive.
    From the perspective of the soul, the earth in this point in time may be a perfect opportunity and one of the best chances for experience and growth.

    The word goes that souls from all over the universe are just dying for a chance to incarnate here and now

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    Default Re: Do you want to come back, and why?

    I'm sorry if this is off topic, but after reading Midnight's original post there's something that confuses me. Actually this has been confusing me long time as I have seen lots of similar references.
    Who is this authority, who decides if you are allowed or not allowed to leave planet earth? What right does this authority have deciding others life choices or their free will?
    If there is such authority, it's a bit concerning to me. How far does these kind of oppressing power structures extend?

    You are brave souls to come back for another round. I have always felt this must be my last time here. I'm not saying it is, but I want it to be. Perhaps my decision has been influenced by the everyday struggle.
    I wish I could do more to help this planet and it's lifeforms. Perhaps if I learned how to do that, starting from myself, I could be able to make a choice to come back.

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    Default Re: Do you want to come back, and why?

    If you went to the Master of the Universe and He offered you the choice at this celestial setting, I think however much the answer from our earthly viewpoint is likely to be a no to return, with your seeing the end destination in the end, and being in the presence of the One you might actually say that earth was only a little thing after all and go back.

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    Quote Posted by Demeisen (here)
    I'm sorry if this is off topic, but after reading Midnight's original post there's something that confuses me. Actually this has been confusing me long time as I have seen lots of similar references.
    Who is this authority, who decides if you are allowed or not allowed to leave planet earth? What right does this authority have deciding others life choices or their free will?
    If there is such authority, it's a bit concerning to me. How far does these kind of oppressing power structures extend?

    You are brave souls to come back for another round. I have always felt this must be my last time here. I'm not saying it is, but I want it to be. Perhaps my decision has been influenced by the everyday struggle.
    I wish I could do more to help this planet and it's lifeforms. Perhaps if I learned how to do that, starting from myself, I could be able to make a choice to come back.
    sirdipswitch,
    who is an experienced astral traveller and communicates with his higher self on a daily bases, claims that one of the biggest secrets that the ptb have on us, is that every soul has the right demand to return to source after incarnation.
    Most people though, are tickled to death when they find out that they made it to heaven and it doesn't occur to them to even investigate the opportunity of returning to source.

    sirdipswitch has written a lengthy post about it somewhere but I wouldn't know where it can be found.
    Will search for it though.

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    Default Re: Do you want to come back, and why?

    My feeling is that we may have an inner intention, but we need a capacity and understanding to engage in that intention.
    When we die or rather when the body is finished with, karma takes over, and we are pushed around, because of our inner neurotic tendencies! So we have no say in the matter. However we must have done something good to get here in a human form!

    If you find yourself praying everyday to be of benefit to all sentient beings, maybe, maybe you will come back to help others.

    There those who are called Tulkus that do this by choice, and even have the skill to leave a letter, indicating where they will be reborn.

    Personally, I was so fed up with people serving me and others up fluff, that I decided to do something about it.


    We all have certain abilities and temperaments that may help others, we just have to recognise them, and use them. But first we have to take ourselves out of the picture, and that occurs when we know what we are.....or get an inkling.






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    Default Re: Do you want to come back, and why?

    No thankyou!

    The fact that life can exist in ways that i cannot even begin to imagine...... Are you crazy? Why would i want to come back here?!

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    Next round, a cat instead of a sheep
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    Default Re: Do you want to come back, and why?

    Pie'n'eal, thank you very much for you insights.

    I have a strange feeling that the kind of 'karma wheel' or 'karma laws' that are associated with planet earth and the long incarnation cycles of it's inhabitants are very likely artificial creations. Not by 'god' or source, but something very less than that. Perhaps to keep us occupied in here. I can't explain why I feel this, but I my intuition says so.. You said it could be our inner tendencies. It could be so very much so. But I also wonder if this is just a machine where we are.

    There are also such terms as 'karma of a nation' or 'karma of forefathers' which to me are absolutely absurd concepts. I think we are primarily responsible for our own actions and thoughts and their consequences. Not for errors that have been made in the past by someone else. I feel that holding such karma would not be constructive, but rather accepting self-guilt without basis.

    Wakytweaky, thank you for the hint. That sounds very interesting concept and definitely holds a sense of free will. I will be looking for the post you referred.


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    Default Re: Do you want to come back, and why?

    Until one masters Earth Game, I don't see any choice in the matter. We've chosen to play, so here we are. It's like jumping out of an airplane. Once we're out, it's better to be concerned with matters at hand, rather than if we can get back in.

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    I'm hoping it get's sorted this time round. If the sheeple don't listen after all this I think I'll go somewhere else and throw rocks at the Ignorant now and again.

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    I'd like to come back either as a tree or a bonobo !

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    Default Re: Do you want to come back, and why?

    The OP question is rather odd to me.
    You are here now, OP.
    What's up?
    Do you want to be here now?
    Is there any thing you came here to do?
    Or is it too late?
    What does it matter about a hypothetical next time?

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    I've always understood that wanting to leave generally disqualifies one from being able to do so....
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    Quote Posted by Demeisen (here)
    I'm sorry if this is off topic, but after reading Midnight's original post there's something that confuses me. Actually this has been confusing me long time as I have seen lots of similar references.
    Who is this authority, who decides if you are allowed or not allowed to leave planet earth? What right does this authority have deciding others life choices or their free will?
    If there is such authority, it's a bit concerning to me. How far does these kind of oppressing power structures extend?

    You are brave souls to come back for another round. I have always felt this must be my last time here. I'm not saying it is, but I want it to be. Perhaps my decision has been influenced by the everyday struggle.
    I wish I could do more to help this planet and it's lifeforms. Perhaps if I learned how to do that, starting from myself, I could be able to make a choice to come back.
    The answer is, it is you.

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