The Project Camelot / TruTV pilot episode : SHADOW OPERATIONS - The Mars Project

[Limor Wolf]

There is nothing else except to wish Bill and Kerry the best of success! They are doing so much and with such an integrity, consistance and inteligence that is rare in this field, and they are the Real deal. However, there are a couple of problems with TV shows and I think it is also fair to mention it . The 'real deal' does not pass in all its 'glory' on TV. Programs such as that does not bring 100% genuinity even when they deal with genuine staff and with the most important true information hidden from the public.

" The confrontation with the security guards was staged .. Such are the rules of the game in Reality TV."

It works on the drama, adrenaline, on certain appearnces and images and all those sensations and not on the true essence of things. It might not have the possible major significance (in my view) on the average viewer as we would like to think it has, who even if kept more attentive for a couple of minutes, will mostly forget about it when the next excitment will pop, probably the next TV show.

It mixes and confuses the senses by adding sounds, quick shots, and all sorts of additions that does not allow the information to sink and is likened to a strong cup of cofee which is providing the fix of the hour.

What made ​​people listen attentively to Project Camelot, and follow those two wonderful researchers - Bill and Kerry for years, was not only the mindblowing information which they provided, which in itself made many people raise a hugh eyebrow and opt for the next possibility to get another piece of information, But it was also the style and presentation - a calm and collected conversation which brought the real almost live flow of information from the mouth of the source to the audience. It was credible and it was accompanied with a very genuine feeling, that is hard to find in most TV shows which are not documantries or the original and almost unedited interview, therefore, it provided the 'earth shaking' factor that happened for every single viewer to open their minds to a different reality.

The art of revealing hidden secrets and oppressions to an uninformed and very effectad public is a difficult one, when all we want is to make a shot on as many 'targets' as possible but the catch is that there is a compromise to be done, and whether this 'investment' pays off or not is up to each to decide.

There were very important and surprising details given from very reliable sources by ultra genuine and presentable researchers, in a media that does not respect all that, and truth is a distant word for it. To try and encourage people to seek the truth of our reality with an energy signature (of the program) that is not completely in alignment with that ,is usually not a reciepe for succsses, but I sure hope that I am wrong, and I wish that all the mind opening interviews made by Camelot and Avalon over the years could be broadcasted on prime time just as they are, -- now, that would have brought the end of the PTB in a very fast countdown.

Originally posted by Chris82: " it's easy to be a "keyboard critic" It's easy not to say and do anything and just play the critic once in a while."

Very true, and I am afraid that my words are an example to that. I will post it but will add that the above reflects only my feelings towords the potential TV show and in no way towards Bill and Kerry which are a role model for me in every way possible.

Limor

[jp11]

I've sent this info on with two different versions of YouTube, one with the other without commercials along with the info from Bill about Brian O'Leary and Novell (I think). I just sent Kerry's latest info about what has transpired getting to this point.

It was such fun watching Bill and Kerry, knowing that I've been aware of both of them for all these years now, since their beginning on PC! I was fortunate to be at the Project Camelot event in California with Bob Dean, David Wilcock, Richard Dolan, etc. so I felt like I was watching friends on the screen.

I do hope something else comes of this and will be sending on your new info Bill along with link to this video.

Thanks to all who've played a part in getting this info out there. Great job everyone!

[M6*]

Hi Bill!

This behind the scenes "fill in" is just soooo exciting to me. Thank you for thinking it through and taking the time to write it out for us!

What I am planning to do is print it out on DVDs (Never mind my "TECHNO TERROR" ....I will be BEYOND MYSELF!!:-) and give them as
Christmas Presents to my people (with explanations concerning WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY HOLDING IN THEIR HANDS) here in the Midwest....
This makes it so much EASIER now, as so many people are VISUAL LEARNERS and as a TEACHING TOOL it is just WONDERFUL!! Thanks Again!

Enjoy Your Day.....Tomorrow we could all be ....ANYWHERE!! M6*

[M6*]

Hi Dorjezigzag!

I'm thinking I just saw Mulder and Scully in my REARVIEW MIRROR as I drove out of town yesterday!
I do remember them fondly though!

Cheers! M6*

[gripreaper]

It's a slam dunk:

[M6*]

Hi jp11

When I was invited to go to the 2009 California Event, by someone far across the Ocean from me, I had NO IDEA what was going on, or who ANY of the characters were in the PLAY.
(I had simply been involved in another PROGRAM up to that point.) I was promised that it would be LIFE CHANGING for me, and it has been. This is because there is no substitute for the
REAL THING .... no matter how ILLUSIVE .... it gives us ENERGY to pursue it! (My getting there was my "Best Story Yet"....and getting back to where I started from, via Roswell, was
even Better!!) so, to say the least, the ADVENTURE has been WORTH IT. And can I even believe that Tommy has made that wonderful POSTER to put up on my WALL of HEROES that I
am planning for my next abode....to give me COURAGE:-)!

Take care, and enjoy the day! M6*

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Huma (here)
So why have Andy on if you don't believe him? Why present people who are not credible even in the rather gullible alternative community and pair them with wonderful folks like O'leary and Dean. Also, I am surprised you guys decided to engage in the reenactment frankly. And acting like you guys just heard all this info for the first time for the sake of a cheesy reality show.

The problem with a TV show like this is that you have little or no control over what you're asked to do, or -- worse still! -- over the editing. We shot something like 25 hours of material over 8 days (with two cameras). The show in the end lasted 43 minutes, minus commercials -- which means that 97% of the footage was unused or rejected. Kerry and I offered our opinions quite strongly (as you might imagine) ... but in the end we had no executive authority over anything at all.

There was one instance at the end of a long day's shooting when I reprimanded the camera team for not capturing a particularly smart bit of ad lib, that had happened before they were prepared. I was quietly taken aside by both the the Director and Producer and told in no uncertain terms that it was categorically not my place to say anything at all about those parts of the production.

This kind of thing was was always a problem, because we were not just 'talent' (as actors and presenters are known in Hollywood). We were film makers, camera operators, editors, directors and producers in our own right, well able to put together a whole show ourselves if we had the funding. We were a kind of anomaly, and from the production company's point of view were not always easy to deal with.

It's not all bad, though. Doing the pilot show on The Mars Project was my own suggestion (I proposed it to TruTV in a phone call when Kerry was not able to make it to that conference), and they were smart enough to pick it up and use it. Sean Carroll, Ron Nicks, Dave Rosenfeld (good catch!) and Andy Basiago were brought in by the producers, but of course we introduced Gordon Novel (it was my idea to start the show with him), David Wilcock, Richard Hoagland, Brian O'Leary, and Bob Dean.

We had pushed hard for Henry Deacon's important testimony to be included as a centerpiece, but were told it could not happen for legal reasons (he had not given his consent). We'd also pushed even harder for the show to be called PROJECT CAMELOT (not Shadow Operations!) -- but for reasons which are still hard to understand, given the very large existing support base, TruTV did not want to use the name.

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Is the AlphaZebra version Bill's version? There should be something in the title which indicates it's the original Project Avalon version.

Yes, I edited that myself. AlphaZebra is the Avalon channel.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
The Project Camelot / TruTV pilot episode of SHADOW OPERATIONS -- entitled "The Mars Project" -- was aired on 7 November, 2012, two years after a long week of shooting in California, Arizona, Nevada and Utah.

Well done, and definitely the best video of this show that I've seen. Thanks.

[Bill Ryan]

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Download the video here:

http://projectavalon.net/PROJECT_CAM...rs_Project.mp4 (244 Mb)

[M6*]

The thing is, Bill, anybody who has a long history of the Director/Producer type knows they have to do what they need to do in order to get the job DONE!!!

Part of what you and Kerry BOTH had to do here....in spite of your own expertise....was to hand over your ENTIRE history as DIRECTOR/PRODUCERS to other
people.... long enough to get this in the can! This is so hard for so many really talented people to do that they just cannot subject themselves to that kind of thing.
It takes real PROFESSIONAL DISCIPLINE in order to do it! I am just so "stoked" over this production....and part of my enthusiasm....is because I KNOW how
hard it must have been for both of you at times.....just to get it DONE! Getting it DONE... without a DISASTER... was Step #1. ("First we Crawl, Then we Walk,
Then we Run", etc. etc.) Still, all and all, I am thinking it came out pretty good. A LOT was packed into a fast paced amount of time....and it stayed pretty
coherent....so as not to lose anybody in the story line. Not only that....but that you have both lived long enough to tell the story is pretty amazing in itself!

Take care....and "May the Force Be With You":-) M6*

[WhiteFeather]

Kudos to both of you, Awesome professional job Bill, your a natural..... I have enjoyed this show extremely. It would be beneficial to all if Tru-TV contacted you and Kerry to do some more Disclosure work. Magnificent..... And You gotta love Bob Dean too. Thanks Again Bill

[Snookie]

I would like to see future shows deal with interviews that Bill & Kerry have already done. They could focus on a specific subject, or on a certain person.

For example, Mr X. Since he died under unusual circumstances they could discuss his testimony, the nature of his passing, then get people to corroborate and/or debunk what he said. Project Looking Glass would also be a facinating topic to cover. I could go on and on....

At least this way some of the footage that you guys have already shot could be utilized, even if just for background information on whatever the subject of the show is about, as I'm sure you guys have covered almost every topic out there!

[GCS1103]

As someone who watches these types of shows (including Jesse Ventura's) I thought the production was outstanding. The show segments were short enough to keep your interest and the researchers who appeared were all well spoken and credible. The decision to have Bill narrate was a very wise one. As I've said on this forum, several times, Bill has an incredible talent in engaging an audience and keeping your attention focused on what he's saying. Now he can add "televison star" to his resume. Well done Bill and Kerry and hopefully there will be many more shows we can all enjoy.

[kemo]

I thought it was very well done. Bill may not believe Basiago but that doesn't mean what he says didn't happen. The physicist says we are a couple of centuries away from 'beaming' but ET science could be thousands of years ahead, so if we have back-engineered that technology who knows? I enjoyed Bill's demonstration of how hyper/sub-space dimensional travel may work. The point is though that everyone involved seemed plausible at first blush - sufficiently so to make the average viewer consider that there might be something to it. The first step to disclosure is awareness surely. I was disappointed to learn that the confrontation was staged as that undermines credibility, but understand that Bill and Kerry were pressured into it. Apart from that, a very professional job and we can only hope for a series.

[Swan]

Posted by Huma (here)
Also, I am surprised you guys decided to engage in the reenactment frankly. And acting like you guys just heard all this info for the first time for the sake of a cheesy reality show. .....

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First - an apology if what I am about to say is impolite, as I very much appreciate the work of Project Camelot and this forum.

But I whole heartedly agree with the above. I do not endorse mixing fiction with fact. That makes it very hard for the viewer to know which information they can trust...if any.

I would love to see a documentary by you and Kerry, where you had full control of the production ( I am presuming that in this case there would be no reenactments ).

The information you present is world changing, and as such needs to be presented with integrity.

[LisAlien]

I think the timing of the program, coming on the heels of Jesse Ventura disrespecting and trying to make David Icke look foolish, was done on purpose to taint the audience before even watching it.
The games and manipulations they play on television and its audience is why I don't own a set. It's basically a brainwashing instrument that you're essentially paying for each month.

One suggestion though, if I were Bill and/or Kerry, I would distant myself from Wilcock and Hoagland because of the close association you all have with one another. It's almost like you don't hear/see one without the other and most of us know, Hoagland and Wilcock aren't the most warmly embraced 'researchers' among the community. They're questionable at best.
Bill Ryan is in a league of his own and should remain there. I truly appreciate and respect his professionalism unlike I do the others.
That's just my two-cents (and with inflation, I probably owe.....)

[Daft Ada]

Excellent stuff, some good content and very well presented. I really do miss you two together, and as has already been said above, you are a natural Bill and I miss your interviews too. The amount of information that is coming out at the moment has got me wondering what on earth is going on, they no longer seem to be obfuscating pictures to the extent that they did and it appears that just about all the astronauts are saying Aliens exist and things are going on out there. Someone has obviously decided that now is the time to release this because so much more evidence is being released at this time. Question is why?

[buckminster fuller]

I never watch shows like that quite frankly. It is the medium of choice for all the BS that people are getting exposed to... I'm quite sad to see that alternative media are so alike the big ones.. Advertisment, staged situations, drown the information in a simulacre of reality. It doesn't bring credibility to the content but openly gives the audience the choice to consume it as it is used to, mouth opened, with no personal input, synthesis level zero. Most of them would buy ANYTHING presented as so. The "seen on TV" syndrome... I think information will make its way through different channels, ones that cannot so easily be dismissed as fantasy food for no thinking...

I'm sorry to sound so negative, I'm aware of all the hard work behind, but I see a lack of ethics and this is the old world ways. I don't want it anymore.

[truth4me]

Posted by buckminster fuller (here)
I never watch shows like that quite frankly. It is the medium of choice for all the BS that people are getting exposed to... I'm quite sad to see that alternative media are so alike the big ones.. Advertisment, staged situations, drown the information in a simulacre of reality. It doesn't bring credibility to the content but openly gives the audience the choice to consume it as it is used to, mouth opened, with no personal input, synthesis level zero. Most of them would buy ANYTHING presented as so. The "seen on TV" syndrome... I think information will make its way through different channels, ones that cannot so easily be dismissed as fantasy food for no thinking...

I'm sorry to sound so negative, I'm aware of all the hard work behind, but I see a lack of ethics and this is the old world ways. I don't want it anymore.

I respect your opinion and there is merit in what your saying BUT to "beat the system" sometimes we have to be a part of the system. I used the system honestly for my advantage. Cable companys are owned by big business yet I like my internet and if I don't use it I can't be on forums like this which truly has helped me in keeping my sanity in a insane world.....

[buckminster fuller]

Posted by truth4me (here)

Posted by buckminster fuller (here)
I never watch shows like that quite frankly. It is the medium of choice for all the BS that people are getting exposed to... I'm quite sad to see that alternative media are so alike the big ones.. Advertisment, staged situations, drown the information in a simulacre of reality. It doesn't bring credibility to the content but openly gives the audience the choice to consume it as it is used to, mouth opened, with no personal input, synthesis level zero. Most of them would buy ANYTHING presented as so. The "seen on TV" syndrome... I think information will make its way through different channels, ones that cannot so easily be dismissed as fantasy food for no thinking...

I'm sorry to sound so negative, I'm aware of all the hard work behind, but I see a lack of ethics and this is the old world ways. I don't want it anymore.

I respect your opinion and there is merit in what your saying BUT to "beat the system" sometimes we have to be a part of the system. I used the system honestly for my advantage. Cable companys are owned by big business yet I like my internet and if I don't use it I can't be on forums like this which truly has helped me in keeping my sanity in a insane world.....

You're right saying we cannot act outside of the "system". It doesn't mean we have no choice but to follow the system ways. A TV show is a media form of its own. It is about the worst of them since it fictionalizes everything that goes into it, and when it comes to not so mainstream data it just kind of make fun of it all. It is a show, a simulacre, (a simulation of the fantasy) and cannot bring credibility to any subject.

I think that diffusion of sensible information always happens as a trickle down effect (see trickle down theory). It should be even truer with concepts that challenge the cultural minds of populations.