God did not create the universe, says Stephen Hawking

[giovonni]

i wonder if all of this is just about selling his new book?




By Michael Holden
Thu Sep 2, 9:08 am ET

LONDON (Reuters) – God did not create the universe and the "Big Bang" was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics, the eminent British theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking argues in a new book.
In "The Grand Design," co-authored with U.S. physicist Leonard Mlodinow, Hawking says a new series of theories made a creator of the universe redundant, according to the Times newspaper which published extracts on Thursday.
"Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist," Hawking writes.
"It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going."
Hawking, 68, who won global recognition with his 1988 book "A Brief History of Time," an account of the origins of the universe, is renowned for his work on black holes, cosmology and quantum gravity.
Since 1974, the scientist has worked on marrying the two cornerstones of modern physics -- Albert Einstein's General Theory of Relativity, which concerns gravity and large-scale phenomena, and quantum theory, which covers subatomic particles.
His latest comments suggest he has broken away from previous views he has expressed on religion. Previously, he wrote that the laws of physics meant it was simply not necessary to believe that God had intervened in the Big Bang.
He wrote in A Brief History ... "If we discover a complete theory, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason -- for then we should know the mind of God."
In his latest book, he said the 1992 discovery of a planet orbiting another star other than the Sun helped deconstruct the view of the father of physics Isaac Newton that the universe could not have arisen out of chaos but was created by God.
"That makes the coincidences of our planetary conditions -- the single Sun, the lucky combination of Earth-Sun distance and solar mass, far less remarkable, and far less compelling evidence that the Earth was carefully designed just to please us human beings," he writes.
Hawking, who is only able to speak through a computer-generated voice synthesizer, has a neuro muscular dystrophy that has progressed over the years and left him almost completely paralyzed.
He began suffering the disease in his early 20s but went on to establish himself as one of the world's leading scientific authorities, and has also made guest appearances in "Star Trek" and the cartoons "Futurama" and "The Simpsons."
Last year he announced he was stepping down as Cambridge University's Lucasian Professor of Mathematics, a position once held by Newton and one he had held since 1979.

"The Grand Design" is due to go on sale next week.
(Editing by Steve Addison)

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[tone3jaguar]

Steven Hawking is trying to go from scientist to prophet with his statements like this one and the one about beware of evil aliens. That is not going to work out well for him in the long run.

[frank samuel]

Although Hawking has always posed some interesting theories in this instance he's biting more than he can chew.

[Ixopoborn]

Posted by frank samuel (here)
Although Hawking has always posed some interesting theories in this instance he's biting more than he can chew.

I completely agree. Hawking should sit down, have a strong coffee and reconsider his position.

There was quite a good piece about this in today's Times written by an Oxford professor of Mathematics. The writer states that Hawking’s premise is that creation of the universe was an inevitable consequence given the prior existence of gravity!

This argument is facile and completely misses answering the question of whether creative force is or is not needed for gravity to exist.

[Dale]

I don't know what's gotten into Mr. Hawking as of lately. First, the "evil alien" stuff; then this "never present" God talk? I think he's been spending too much time with the likes of James Randi.

Most of you know by now that I'm employed by a college. Because of that, several of my closest friends are professors and researchers in varying fields. The "Neo-Darwinism" and "Hardcore Nihilism" that runs rampant in these circles certainly isn't based solely upon the data, but instead upon two, main factors:

Money- No scientist, with a properly working brain, is going to risk their career by pursuing feats such as telekinesis, remote viewing, or the UFO phenomena. There have been plenty of scientists who have, and were quickly made examples of. Most of my friends want to keep their jobs, social status, and sense of security. They're usually not going to pursue these things even if there's a spark of interest within a group.

Paradigms- I know of a few researchers who won't even consider the possibility of God or paranormal occurrences largely because they would then have to reformat their entire moral code and existential paradigm. Simply put; it would be too mind blowing to accept this stuff. Humans like to be in control of their minds and realities. Some kinds of paranormal phenomena simply freak people out and make them feel powerless.

So, with Mr. Hawking; who really knows what's going on with him anymore.

[Fredkc]

Hint 1: "Life is its own answer." - Ray Bradbury

[THIRDEYE]

i have some respect for hawkings, how ever there is some info that supports the big bang therory,however i think there is a prime creator of all living things....love light and abundance ....thirdeye....

[Beren]

Posted by The_Cipher_Replied (here)
I don't know what's gotten into Mr. Hawking as of lately. First, the "evil alien" stuff; then this "never present" God talk? I think he's been spending too much time with the likes of James Randi.

Most of you know by now that I'm employed by a college. Because of that, several of my closest friends are professors and researchers in varying fields. The "Neo-Darwinism" and "Hardcore Nihilism" that runs rampant in these circles certainly isn't based solely upon the data, but instead upon two, main factors:

Money- No scientist, with a properly working brain, is going to risk their career by pursuing feats such as telekinesis, remote viewing, or the UFO phenomena. There have been plenty of scientists who have, and were quickly made examples of. Most of my friends want to keep their jobs, social status, and sense of security. They're usually not going to pursue these things even if there's a spark of interest within a group.

Paradigms- I know of a few researchers who won't even consider the possibility of God or paranormal occurrences largely because they would then have to reformat their entire moral code and existential paradigm. Simply put; it would be too mind blowing to accept this stuff. Humans like to be in control of their minds and realities. Some kinds of paranormal phenomena simply freak people out and make them feel powerless.

So, with Mr. Hawking; who really knows what's going on with him anymore.

I think you rounded it up fairly.
The great lurking shadow behind all of them just shows fear. Fear of loss of money,job,or status... And now we think whom are those who are our "intellectuals" ??? Those poor afraid souls...
To state with full moral responsibility that there is no God is to shot your self in the foot.
It`s like a kid who put an arm over his eyes and because he doesn't see ,he say that something is not existing...

[Ross]

From what I saw on TV lastnight, he did not say GOD did not create the universe, he said it wasnt necessary for the creation to happen, I have no problems with his statement.

Ross

[giovonni]

i agree with all here~ this seems like an attempt (for Hawkins) to remain relevant during these very high lifting energy changes on this planet. There is no doubt he is a genius but he seems to be trapped within his own surface mind (during this brief moment) upon this 3D plane > within his own egos-consciousness

[Steven]

He is like many others "bishops of the scientific dogma" trying to contain the recent progressive mass of awakening. It's totally logical and consequential coming up from him. There is also a bit of misunderstanding a long the way anyway. Gods, Creator, Creation, Great Spirit, the Universe, words and concepts only tools that certainly doesn't encompass its target.

Namaste, Steven

[Fredkc]

Hint 2: Eternally perfect, which includes being 'fore-given'.

Fred

Sorry, for being cryptic, I just have limited access right now. So dropping hints when I can.

[MariaDine]

He 's in for a surprise....

[cloud9]

Could this be a case of avoiding the need to prove the existence of God? I mean, if a scientist says: God exists, how can he prove it? Mathematically? He would need a formula or equation to do so. Who can raise to the challenge?

[MariaDine]

Ahahahah ! I love it when the questions are difficult....
To belive in GOD, THE SOURCE, ...what ever it is .............. is a matter of Faith, inner experience, meditation, etc.........................We are never going to come to a conclusion that convinces other people.
It is a inner experience.
Are we mad ? YES ! .....so what ? DEAL with with it.

[Samson]

the universe can and will create itself from nothing.
Is Stephens qoute
Aint that even more unlikely then that god did create it in 6 days?

The universe can and will create itself from nothing.
So if i can turn myself into nothing... i can become the whole universe
interesting

[Fredkc]

Ok, what of the notion that Hawking is right, for the wrong reasons?

This universe, for all its flora and fauna is far from perfect. Neither does it appear to be 'eternal'. Tricky notions, really.

Does the Creator 'plant weeds in the garden just so they can be picked?"
this implies the Creator 'needs' something.

Did the creator bring us forth imperfect?
Entertainment? What?

"We are supposed to 'grow into' some perfect-er relationship with the Creator."
Was the Creator somehow incapable of doing so? I don't think so.
Why then not just create us that way, and be done? (I happen to believe that is what is)

The Creator is not dualistic in nature, as far as I can tell.
Neither is his creation (us) when not distracted.

So, why a universe at all?

Saturday's thoughts on the matter,
Fred

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by Fredkc (here)
So, why a universe at all?

Saturday's thoughts on the matter,
Fred

Just popping in... Think of it as a holographic universe, Fred.
Popping out...

[Agape]

There is Living and Non-living Universe........

[Beren]

God is all, a single atom in physical world could not exist if it isn`t a will of Creator...
from a tiny quark to galaxies , all is but an expression on Creator...

Very Hawking that says things like that is child of God... But with silly ideas