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    US 'planned to blow up moon'
    STAFF REPORTER, The West Australian November 26, 2012, 2:25 pm

    http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/1...-blow-up-moon/

    The United States planned to blow up the moon with a nuclear bomb to win Cold War bragging rights over the-then Soviet Union, scientists claim.

    A report in London's Daily Mail this morning says that at the height of the 1950s space race, the US considered detonating an atom bomb on the moon as a display of America's Cold War muscle.

    The secret project, A Study of Lunar Research Flights, and nicknamed Project A119, was never carried out.

    The Daily Mail article says the mission's planning included calculations by astronomer Carl Sagan, then a young graduate student, of the behavior of dust and gas generated by the blast.

    In 2000 physicist Leonard Reiffel said that viewing the nuclear flash from earth might have intimidated the Soviet Union and boosted US confidence after the launch of Sputnik.

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    Reiffel, now 85, directed the inquiry at the former Armour Research Foundation, now part of the Illinois Institute of Technology. He later served as a deputy director at NASA.

    Sagan, who later became renowned for popularizing science on television, died in 1996.

    According to the Daily Mail, the author of one of Sagan's biographies suggested that he may have committed a security breach in 1959 after revealing the classified project in an academic fellowship application. Reiffel concurred.

    Under the scenario, a missile carrying a small nuclear device was to be launched from an undisclosed location and travel 238,000 miles to the moon, where it would be detonated upon impact.

    The planners decided it would have to be an atom bomb because a hydrogen bomb would have been too heavy for the missile, the Daily Mail article says.

    Military officials apparently abandoned the idea because of the danger to people on Earth in case the mission failed.

    The scientists also registered concerns about contaminating the moon with radioactive material, Reiffel said.

    The US Air Force refuses to comment on the claims.

    Maybe there's some truth to the alternative theory of what happened to Apollo 13... KiwiElf

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    Default Re: US 'planned to blow up moon' (i.e. detonate an A-bomb in the cold war)

    Bob Dean mentioned in an interview last year (or the year before) that the US planned on detonating a bomb on the moon back in the early 70's (for various reasons...one of which to see if it was hollow or not). However, TPTB/ET put a stop to that and has never allowed the US back to the moon since then (I guess they were banned).

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    Default Re: US 'planned to blow up moon' (i.e. detonate an A-bomb in the cold war)

    Quote Posted by Spellbound (here)
    Bob Dean mentioned in an interview last year (or the year before) that the US planned on detonating a bomb on the moon back in the early 70's (for various reasons...one of which to see if it was hollow or not). However, TPTB/ET put a stop to that and has never allowed the US back to the moon since then (I guess they were banned).

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    Attempting to detonate an atomic bomb on (or in) the moon would be analogous to attempting to detonate a suitcase bomb in the White House. Neither case will ever happen... unless of course they themselves initiate it for whatever the reason.
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    Quote Posted by Spellbound (here)
    Bob Dean mentioned in an interview last year (or the year before) that the US planned on detonating a bomb on the moon back in the early 70's (for various reasons...one of which to see if it was hollow or not). However, TPTB/ET put a stop to that and has never allowed the US back to the moon since then (I guess they were banned).

    Dave - Toronto
    this could be one reason why.....somebody or something don't want American government/military up there for some reason.....

    Another thing, America/military always wants to blow something up you know and to me it just gets old. Now could you imagine what the people of the world would think if they seen the moon blow up and find out it was America that done it? Plus the arrogance of the people behind that scheme if it was really true......I tell you we got some serious looney toons running things behind the curtains in America. Seriously meshed up cartoon characters ......
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    Default Re: US 'planned to blow up moon' (i.e. detonate an A-bomb in the cold war)

    nobody now can make a decision about the moon, not one,....if it were taken, i'd chose to come back as an evil spirit to whatever was attempted in civilization after that
    --jokes, who would know if that could be true--

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    Default Re: US 'planned to blow up moon' (i.e. detonate an A-bomb in the cold war)

    I thought the "moon matrix" was the big problem.
    So wouldn't it be good to blow to the moon to smithereens since, the reptilians employ the moon to confuse humans?
    I say go for it. Blow the ****ing moon all to hell!

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    Default Re: US 'planned to blow up moon' (i.e. detonate an A-bomb in the cold war)

    I don't believe the intent was ever to blow up the moon. It would take more then one nuclear warhead to accomplish that. Was it foolhardy nonetheless? I think so. I am also not sure if the explanation that we were taking samples of the dust and dirt looking for traces of water flies either, but I am at a loss as to why we would spend millions on such an experiment.

    Earth would be taken off axis. Wouldn't that cause catastrophes such as flooding and severe weather changes? I also believe the rotation of Earth would also be affected. I believe that I read once that a 24 day would turn into a 6 hour day. How about the impact on wildlife, especially the oceans. I would assume that water temperatures would also change.

    I would be interested in knowing the real intent behind this.

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    Default Re: US 'planned to blow up moon' (i.e. detonate an A-bomb in the cold war)

    What, blowing up the moon is more intimidating than blowing up two Japanese cities right here on Terra Firma?

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    A very intriguing article that was published in New Dawn Magazine a while back!

    In Who Built the Moon?, Knight and Butler raise some fascinating and challenging questions, foremost: Could it be that the Moon is artificial? Could it even be hollow? And does the Moon really exist through some happy accident, or is a blueprint apparent – and if so, who was the architect? New Dawn recently spoke with Christopher Knight about his controversial book and his astonishing conclusions.



    – New Dawn
    NEW DAWN: All of mankind’s visits to the Moon have not answered some of the most basic questions about its origin and importance. Your new book Who Built the Moon? (co-authored with Alan Butler) brings to light some extraordinary facts about the Moon, and comes to a mind-blowing conclusion about its origin. Could you briefly outline some of these little known and ignored facts?

    CHRISTOPHER KNIGHT: The Moon sits very close to the Earth yet it is widely regarded as the strangest object in the known universe. It is a bit like knowing that every person in the world is completely normal except the person you live next door to, who has three heads and lives on a diet of broken razor blades.
    The book lists the strangeness of the Moon, which includes the fact that it does not have a solid core like every other planetary object. It is either hollow or has a very low-density interior. Bizarrely, its concentration of mass are located at a series of points just under its surface – which caused havoc with early lunar spacecraft. The material the Moon is made from came from the outer surface of the Earth and left a shallow hole that filled with water and we now call the Pacific. This rock left the Earth to produce the Moon very quickly after our planet had formed around 4,6 billion years ago.

    The Moon is not only extremely odd in its construction; it also behaves in a way that is nothing less than miraculous. It is exactly four hundred times smaller than the Sun but four hundred times closer to the Earth so that both the Sun and the Moon appear to be precisely the same size in the sky – which gives us the phenomenon we call a total eclipse. Whilst we take this for granted it has been called the biggest coincidence in the universe.
    Furthermore, the Moon mirrors the movement of the Sun in the sky by rising and setting at the same point on the horizon as the Sun does at opposite solstices. For example, this means the Moon rises at midwinter at the same place the Sun does at midsummer. There is no logical reason why the Moon mimics the Sun in this way and it is only meaningful to a human standing on the Earth

    ND: What led you to write Who Built the Moon? And does this latest book relate to your earlier research when writing Civilization One and Uriel’s Machine?
    CK: All of the six books I have had published over the last ten years are part of a continued single piece of research. I came to write Who Built the Moon?with Alan Butler after we had finished Civilization One, because our research led us to study the Moon very closely.
    We had found that the superbly advanced measuring system in use over 5,000 years ago was based on the mass, dimensions and movements of the Earth.
    However, for thoroughness we checked every planet and moon in the solar system to see if there was any pattern. Amazingly, it worked perfectly for every aspect of the Moon but did not apply at all to any other known body – except the Sun.
    It was as though we had found a blueprint where the Moon had been ‘manufactured’ using very specific units taken from Earth’s relationship with the Sun. The more we looked, everything fitted – and fitted perfectly in every conceivable way.


    ND: Most astoundingly, you found that an ancient system of geometry and measurement used in the Stone Age works perfectly on the Moon. What exactly is this system and how could the ancients have attained this knowledge?
    CK: It is not possible to describe the greatness of this ancient system of geometry and measurement without repeating the content of Civilization One.
    The work of Alexander Thom, a brilliant professor of engineering from Oxford University, was our starting point. He identified the existence of what he called the Megalithic Yard. This was a precise unit of measurement that was the basis of late Stone Age structures across Western Europe – such as Stonehenge. Most archaeologists have written his work off as a mistake but when one looks coldly at their objections they are baseless.
    Alan and I were able to show how they made these highly precise linear units based on the rotation of the Earth and how they were also the basis of all time, capacity and weight units in use today. Once again these are exact – not approximations or close fits.
    Where the ancients got such knowledge is quite baffling. All we can be certain of is that they were way ahead of us today! It’s easy to check out by anyone with a calculator.

    ND: Your conclusion is there are more than enough anomalies about the Moon to suggest it is not a naturally occurring body and was quite possibly engineered to sustain life on Earth. How did you reach this conclusion?
    CK: Not only is the Moon an apparently impossible object, it has some unique benefits for us humans. It has been nothing less than an incubator for life. If the Moon was not exactly the size, mass and distance that it has been at each stage of the Earth’s evolution – there would be no intelligent life here. Scientists are agreed that we owe everything to the Moon.
    It acts as a stabiliser that holds our planet at just the right angle to produce the seasons and keep water liquid across most of the planet. Without our Moon the Earth would be as dead and solid as Venus.

    ND: If the Moon is an artificial construct, what are your theories on who or what built it, and why?
    CK: In Who Built the Moon? we explain that we could not come to any other conclusion than the Moon is artificial. Because it is certain that it is 4.6 billion years old that raises some interesting points. Another factor was the obvious message that has been built into the Moon to tell us it’s artificial. The language of the message is base ten arithmetic so it looks as though it is directed to a ten digit species that is living on Earth right now – which seems to mean humans.
    The question of why the Moon had to be built is easy to answer: To produce all life, especially humans.

    As to who did it – well that’s a lot tougher! We give the three possibilities we can think of, namely: God, aliens or humans. The only one of these that is 100% scientifically possible is the last one. Time travel is universally accepted as being physically possible and a number of scientists are close to sending matter back in time. We can envisage that machines could be built in the future that could be sent back to remove matter from the young Earth to construct the Moon – probably using mini black hole technology.

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    Default Re: US 'planned to blow up moon' (i.e. detonate an A-bomb in the cold war)

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    Quote Posted by Spellbound (here)
    Bob Dean mentioned in an interview last year (or the year before) that the US planned on detonating a bomb on the moon back in the early 70's (for various reasons...one of which to see if it was hollow or not). However, TPTB/ET put a stop to that and has never allowed the US back to the moon since then (I guess they were banned).

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    this could be one reason why.....somebody or something don't want American government/military up there for some reason.....

    Another thing, America/military always wants to blow something up you know and to me it just gets old. Now could you imagine what the people of the world would think if they seen the moon blow up and find out it was America that done it? Plus the arrogance of the people behind that scheme if it was really true......I tell you we got some serious looney toons running things behind the curtains in America. Seriously meshed up cartoon characters ......
    They would have blamed ET terrorists, then gone to war with someone, 10yrs later we'd have conspiracy theories, books on the subject, assassinations and resignations, much like now.

    Could still happen if they want us to believe ET' s are the enemy.

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    From my personal life I find this thread interesting because Saturday evening one of my three year olds told me the moon is going bye bye. I asked her where it was going but she wouldn't say anymore she just waved to it.

    I know this isn't a contributation to the conversation happening but I thought I'd throw it out there.

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    Default Re: US 'planned to blow up moon' (i.e. detonate an A-bomb in the cold war)

    Now this is a very interesting thread because last night when I was looking at the moon a thought came to me that I have never had before...I said to the moon if you really do have a negative influence I hope you are taken away.

    I have heard a lot about the moon being a constructed craft and such. Anyway thought I would add that to this thread for what it is worth since it happend last night and I never said that to the moon before...

    Much love to us all!

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    I can't wait for the day when Moon is removed.
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    Default Re: US 'planned to blow up moon' (i.e. detonate an A-bomb in the cold war)

    Yes, let's just continue to destroy everything.


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    Super mega poke
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    Yes, let's just continue to destroy everything.


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    Default Re: US 'planned to blow up moon' (i.e. detonate an A-bomb in the cold war)

    They don't literally mean destroy the moon, you'd need more than one small warhead, have a big impact on Earth if it were to suddenly just cease to exist. Blowing it up would also lead to debris impacting Earth.

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    Quote Posted by PixieDust (here)
    From my personal life I find this thread interesting because Saturday evening one of my three year olds told me the moon is going bye bye. I asked her where it was going but she wouldn't say anymore she just waved to it.

    I know this isn't a contributation to the conversation happening but I thought I'd throw it out there.

    Peace!
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    That's a bit mad, my son told me we used to have two moons and soon we would have none.

    He said the Earth would have a similar gravity to the moon and we wouldn't need it anymore.

    Your post reminded me he'd told me this a few months back when he blew my mind with alsorts of information.
    I'd forgot until now.

    Oh well, bye bye moon.

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    Default Re: US 'planned to blow up moon' (i.e. detonate an A-bomb in the cold war)

    Quote Posted by Kimberley (here)
    Now this is a very interesting thread because last night when I was looking at the moon a thought came to me that I have never had before...I said to the moon if you really do have a negative influence I hope you are taken away.

    I have heard a lot about the moon being a constructed craft and such. Anyway thought I would add that to this thread for what it is worth since it happend last night and I never said that to the moon before...

    Much love to us all!
    I found the Jay Wiedner interview below interesting; especially the parts where he discusses the ubiquitous moon symbolism in connection with the power elite throughout Stanley Kubrick's movies. No matter from what angle I study this, all roads seem to come back to David Icke's thesis that the moon is indeed an artificial craft whose purpose is to enslave, or at the very least, to control humanity. This notion runs immensely counter to intuition (until one begins to really contemplate the idea outside one’s programming), but once you do just that and strip down all preconceived programming, it is very hard to reconcile the moon as natural satellite, which seems almost more absurd. At the end of the day, the moon is indeed most likely a Dyson sphere tethered to Earth in orbit for some specific purpose not completely known to us inhabitants, likely a craft to stabilize the planet for life and/or control or domesticate the grid of consciousness as David Icke suggests. I'm not sure if Icke and others are completely accurate in their analysis of the what/how/and why, but one thing is sure, they are definitely on to something.


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    I thought the "moon matrix" was the big problem.
    So wouldn't it be good to blow to the moon to smithereens since, the reptilians employ the moon to confuse humans?
    I say go for it. Blow the ****ing moon all to hell!
    As a child I mysteriously knew a lot of things, many long since forgotten, and somethings I am rediscovering or have rediscovered in the last 15 years or so.

    One thing that I recall is my thought that we need to destroy the moon. I was very serious about it, and fantasized a lot about how we could get the job done with various methods, blowing it up was the first thought I had, but I had to abandon that as I ran several simulations in my head and determined the damage to earth would be too great. I concluded that pushing it away out of earth's gravity was the only way to make it work. The "Why" aspect never even occurred to me, it was already decided.

    The fascinating part is that I actually spent a fair bit of time thinking about stuff like this ... not a normal kid was I ..
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    Quote Posted by gooty64 (here)
    I thought the "moon matrix" was the big problem.
    So wouldn't it be good to blow to the moon to smithereens since, the reptilians employ the moon to confuse humans?
    I say go for it. Blow the ****ing moon all to hell!
    As a child I mysteriously knew a lot of things, many long since forgotten, and somethings I am rediscovering or have rediscovered in the last 15 years or so.

    One thing that I recall is my thought that we need to destroy the moon. I was very serious about it, and fantasized a lot about how we could get the job done with various methods, blowing it up was the first thought I had, but I had to abandon that as I ran several simulations in my head and determined the damage to earth would be too great. I concluded that pushing it away out of earth's gravity was the only way to make it work. The "Why" aspect never even occurred to me, it was already decided.

    The fascinating part is that I actually spent a fair bit of time thinking about stuff like this ... not a normal kid was I ..
    I agree with you Dedukshyn.
    Like credo Mutwa said, the Moon was "rolled across the sky" back when and put in its current place.
    Well let's roll it back across the across the sky to where it came from and wave bye-bye to the moon at last.
    Yes, blowing the moon up like the way they blew up the tall buildings on 9/11 might cause a ruckus here on earth.

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