Dynamo Magician Impossible

[Healthy Skeptic]

OK, I don't know what you people think of him.
This is Episode 3 of 4. I felt that this is a good example of him.
Of course, there is a lot more (Episodes 1,2 and 4).
As far as I am concerned, 'Magicians' like David Copperfield are just 'illusionists'.
What do you people think of Dynamo??
I don't believe he falls into the same 'category'.
Love, HS

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DHQYVgIUrMs

[Pete]

there is definitely illusion and there is a belief in magic, my heart tells me that this is magic.and its real.

[Healthy Skeptic]

Posted by Pete (here)
there is definitely illusion and there is a belief in magic, my heart tells me that this is magic.and its real.

I have spent many years studying Magicians and their 'illusions' and 'Tricks'.
But, Dynamo has 'really baffled me'.
I believe that he is 'the Real Thing'.

[Eram]

It seems real yes.

But have you witnessed his magic from up close and personal?

I mean.... in theory, all the people he stuns with his magic in hid video's, could be actors you know?
It's been done before.

Like making a building disappear on tv. It seemed real because there where hundreds of people to witness the event..... but those where all actors.

[Healthy Skeptic]

Posted by Wakytweaky (here)
It seems real yes.

But have you witnessed his magic from up close and personal?

I mean.... in theory, all the people he stuns with his magic in hid video's, could be actors you know?
It's been done before.

Like making a building disappear on tv. It seemed real because there where hundreds of people to witness the event..... but those where all actors.

True. Especially with David Copperfield who 'cheated' using different camera angles and the use of twin Sisters and Brothers.
With David Copperfield it was on stage where he used 'props' and 'distractions' to 'fool' the audience.
With Dynamo looking at, not only at this episode, I still am 'struggling' to see how he does his 'Tricks' even with the use of 'actors'.

[Eram]

Posted by Healthy Skeptic (here)

Posted by Wakytweaky (here)
It seems real yes.

But have you witnessed his magic from up close and personal?

I mean.... in theory, all the people he stuns with his magic in hid video's, could be actors you know?
It's been done before.

Like making a building disappear on tv. It seemed real because there where hundreds of people to witness the event..... but those where all actors.

True. Especially with David Copperfield who 'cheated' using different camera angles and the use of twin Sisters and Brothers.
With David Copperfield it was on stage where he used 'props' and 'distractions' to 'fool' the audience.
With Dynamo looking at, not only at this episode, I still am 'struggling' to see how he does his 'Tricks' even with the use of 'actors'.

I think it boils down to the question if there are actors in play.

True.... I'm clueless too about how he would do tricks like placing a telephone into a beer bottle and make it appear like he puts it through the glass, but when the people who witness it live, are actors, then it can be done, no doubt about it.

All I'm trying to say, his magic is so convincing, because of the people that witness it live in his video's. They appear to be innocent bye standers and have their eyes on it from up close. This makes it believable.
...imo...

If they are actors however, the believability goes down the drain.

[omshanti2]

I like Dynamo, he is interesting and entertaining but I feel depending on the magic trick he is performing, I would say he uses a little bit of this and a little bit of that maybe lol:

1) slight of hand/psych
2) Illusion
3) Tech/Gadgets
4) A touch of chemistry for some magic.

However, all people are gifted some cultivate their gift more than others, and to some it is called magic but really they are a natural gift, Dynamo could be one of these people too. Thanks for posting the video love watching Dynamo.

[Shade]

This guy is the best I have seen since Derren Brown. I will be watching the rest of this series tonight. Really good.

I have seen Derren do the same things as this guys does, including the mind reading. In the first trick, when he said think of a card I thought of 8 of spades too.
And in that trick where he burns the $20 bill... you can see the name on it when it's actually burning, especially in the replay at the end, so the notes aren't swapped. There is a possibility that the tricks are staged, and until I have seen a bit more of him, I can't be sure. however, the mind reading looks real and I've seen Derren do the same.

Like Derren it is a mix of trickery, and psychological illusion. The guy is a mentalist.
I have watched everything of Derren's and read his books and am convinced of his abilities and that he doesn't use stooges. And by his abilities, I mean there is nothing there that isn't completely 'mentally' understood. The first vid I have linked to here is an old one, there is a whole library on you tube. I linked this one because of the 'reading with the fingertips' bit.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YsMMBFhj0o8

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oRNqeMzYJ-k

it's good to see these guys in the mainstream actually - in days of yore their job prospects would have been in the secrets socks, or perhaps as a lone proprietor : )... I wonder if this is all Jesus was. A mentalist. lolling. "Five loaves, Two fishes, One penis, take your pick ladies.."

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

He IS real. Have you ever heard Mr. Randi challenge him? Every now and then a person appears upon earth to bring some light in ordinary people' lifes. To wake them up, to give hope, to show THERE is more than meets the eye. He IS one of them.

Have you heard of Wolf Messing?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_Messing
He was one of "them" too. I think he had somehow helped to shorten Hitler's and Stalin's "careeres"... By opening their hearts/eyes to what they did... This way they could allow to be taken out of stage...

Sorry for the above "out-off-topic" remark. Just wanted to add some point of reference. To help us (or not ) decide real/fake...
I wish he could visit Poland
Here is his webpage:
http://www.dynamomagician.com/about/
And WikiPedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamo_(magician)

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

Yeah, the guy is pretty impressive.

However, you know, it´s TV...There´s no way to know if there are actors or editing involved in his tricks.

I would only believe there´s something really extraordinary about the guy when I see him performing his best tricks live, right in front of me.

We can´t trust TV. Even Bill´s TV show had some acting to make it more attractive to the general public. I appreciate Bill´s honest to tell us about it.

Frankly, in one of his TV episodes, the guy teleports to another building on the other side of the street in a matter of seconds. If there´s no editing/tv trickery/acting involved, which i highly doubt, then the guy is the next Jesus or something like it.

I have just one thing to ask you guys; Are you really making up your minds about this based on a TV show? If you are, then you should really review your mind´s modus operandi.

Raf.

[Shade]

The thing is about using stooges as in having the tricks staged is that word gets out about it. With the amount of tricks he does and the amount of people involved, to use stooges just wouldn't be wise. I think that it is more likely other kinds of trickery that are used. The teleporting thing could have been a double, while the real dynamo was hanging over the edge of that first building suspended by a rope, lowering himself to the ground, ready to come back up the stairs. No stooges and no one the wiser. I just watched the first one in the series and was quite amazed by the things he does with bending the wine glass and putting the ring around the stem. No idea how he does that. It's definitely got me wondering. I mean you see those people who can store electric current in their bodies and emit the electricity.. maybe this guy has the same ability but focuses it to heat matter? I can see how he does some of these tricks, but not others.

And btw I never said I though he was 'real' by not knowing if the tricks were staged or not.. I meant staged as in using stooges. That doesn't mean that the audience is real while other trickery is used. However, if the audience and participants ARE real then it's a different ball game because of the ACTUAL skill required to do tricks this well with a real authentic audience and participants. If it isn't staged as in fake audience then he is authentic as in a bloody good mentalist and psychological magician. To me a mark of an authentic mentalist is a real audience and participants - not real 'magic'.

If you watch enough of a magicians material you can get a sense of if there are stooges being used because people aren't always the best of actors. So just from the T.V yeah you can make a judgement call about that, I think.

From the looks, this guys uses subliminal cues and directions like Derren does. Some of his substitutions aren't the smoothest [the CD cover and the ice on the coins, from his pocket], nor are some of his props inconspicuous [the glasses with the tea in them!].

[Camilo]

He's very good. He pretty much does the same stuff than Chris Angel, who in my opinion is the very best.

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

C'mon Let yourself go (slightly) mad He doesn't have to proove anything to us That's the funnyest/crazyest part of it You have to have some measure even in doubt. The same goes for faith... but you can not go like him everywhere around and stick stooges whenever he pleases. That way, sooner or later somebody will spill the beans and the magic will be gone in a puff of smoke. And some sparkles of course. Not very wise for long term business...

I know that on the other (ufo) thread i've made some "smart" remarks about overuse and capabilities of CGI so it seems i contradict myself

Posted by RMorgan (here)
(...)
I have just one thing to ask you guys; Are you really making up your minds about this based on a TV show? If you are, then you should really review your mind´s modus operandi.
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Got it

[conk]

This is a hobby of mine, buying magic tricks. I have hundreds of them, thousands really. A core of perhaps 50 tricks would make your head spin. Absolutely impossible stuff. I've made women cry. I made one woman reach for her bible. But.......it's all illusion, trickery, gadgets, gimmicks. All of it.

My favorites are ones using coins or currency. I can borrow a dollar bill from you, have you record the serial number, and then burn the bill. Moments later I can reveal the same bill, same serial number (and it is real!) in any manner. The unharmed, fully intact bill can be revealed inside a lemon, in the spectators wallet, inside their underwear, anywhere. I can borrow 5 single dollar bills and turn them into 5 hundred dollar bills, right in front of your eyes, my hands in full view at all times. I can reveal a name you only thought of a second ago as raised red whelps on my skin (that's the one that made the lady reach for the bible). So, how is it done? Very simply if you know the trick. Without knowing the secret it seems extremely impossible. Not bragging about my talents, which are amatuerish, but just illustrating how easy it is to fool people.

Not saying there is no real magic, but 99.99 is fakery for fun.

[westhill]

OK... I just watched his 2nd pool table card trick.
We did not get to see the other cards in the deck. Hummm...
Could it be that ALL the cards were the King of Hearts?
So anywhere the cue ball (double banked as distraction) stopped would be near his card.

[Shade]

I've stayed up all night, watched the entire first series and the bonus episode. Now I'm on to series 2 : D.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=J1_iroqGbsI

I can figure out his card tricks and also the mind reading jazz... but... the stuff he does with glass has got me. In ep2 series 1 he puts his hand through glass and also his whole body at one point. In this above ep he brands a glass with a coin. I have seen how people can store electricity in their body and then burn things - is this what he is doing? Focusing real energy, heat energy, energy that can change the molecular bonding of glass? And heat metal? On the edges of my mind i know this is not impossible. I mean the mind reading stuff is pretty impressive anyway right, so how much of a jump IS it to him actually manipulating the glass. Siddihs are real... why exactly CAN'T a person be using them in full view like that. It's not against any law. Now I'm not saying it's really happening that way - I just still in awe because I've only just seen it, there is probably some trick I'm not clueing onto yet, and maybe I never will. But for now I really LIKE the feeling of thinking that he may actually be really doing it. And that is awesome : )

[Akasha]

Rather a lot of editing don'tchya think. Maybe if the tricks were filmed and presented in one take it might be more convincing. Come on people....this is TV for god's sake.

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

I have loved seeing this guy work. Some of the tricks he has look quite impossible. The only thing I could come up with, regarding the trick themselves, was some type of video editing.

But he seels like a cool guy, not trying to be some rockstar like chris angel.

[andrewgreen]

It doesn't matter whether its real or not, he makes people question what is real.

[Shade]

None of it is done with editing as I can see. If you watch all of Derren's live work you can see the mechanics of how the programming and mind reading works - that stuff is real. Editing is too dangerous because people talk and he would lose his rep.The 'teleportation' was a double, the card tricks are workoutable and the programming and mind reading are understandable and absolutely brilliant - he is very skilled at that. If you ask Derren how it works he would explain it as mirror neurons and subconscious knowing - I've seen its intricacies unfold in my own life and I know many on here have also. The subconscious really does know what is going to happen by reading all the information around it. And minds really ARE readable and programmable.

I worked out how the glass tricks in the ep1 series 2 were done - the glass was pre branded with his hand and the coin and backfilled with some clear substance which upon pressure gives of some heat and smoke and sublimates into a gas, leaving the pre made impression. People can be made to choose particular things like those particular sneakers by suggestive programming and direction - in that this stuff is actually achievable with skill and doesn't need stooges or editing.

As for how he does the phones in the bottles? The body and arm through glass? dunno. I though one his best ones was when he went back home and predicted the dart throws of the lady. That was amazing and actual skill. I'm not sure if it was pure prediction or if he told the lady's subconscious to do it, but if there's one thing I wil bet on it's that he isn't using editing. He's too good for that.