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    Default The Voynich Manuscript: the book that can't be read

    Update from Bill, October 2019:

    It's now been solved at last — I'm sure of it. See this thread:

    ~~~



    Hi all,

    Just wanted to share something I have been researching this weekend.

    Not sure if this has been talked about on Avalon yet, I did a search on Avalon, but could not find reference to it.

    It is the “Voynich Manuscript” a book discovered around the 17th Century and thought to have been written in the 16th Century. It has just been Carbon Dated by the University of Arizona. It turned out to be 15th Century between 1404 and 1438.

    The book appears to contain several sections on; Herbal, Astronomical, biological, Cosmological, Pharmaceutical & Recipes.

    It is hand written, but in an unknown language. So far no one has been able to decipher it.

    It also contains illustrations throughout, which quite frankly are astonishing.

    The colouring in the book (which is quite crude) was not of the original hand, and has been identified as being added at a later date.

    This book seems to contain quite a lot of information on Genetics!

    University of Arizona’s Press Release on the Carbon Dating.
    http://uanews.org/node/37825

    View the entire book here at Wikimedia Commons..
    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript

    or Hi-res here...
    http://voynichcentral.com/gallery/

    Wikipedia here...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript

    I would also like to ask Atticus, if it would be possible to relay this information to Comte de St.Germain.

    I also wondered if he was the original writer of the manuscript?
    Or if not does he have any knowledge about it?

    Thank you in advance.

    Love and Truth,

    Amenjo.
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    Default Re: The Voynich Manuscript: the book that can't be read

    The Voynich manuscript has always been a deep fascination of mine.

    Thank you very much for starting a thread related to this! I encourage anyone who has not heard of this simply amazing book, to please read about it.

    Witness Dan Burisch also referred to it a number of times...despite what you think of Mr. Burisch, I think the manuscript is on someone's radar.
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    Thank you Hiram,

    I was just drawn to it at this present moment, seemed extremely relevant.

    Just had to share it with everyone.

    Love and Truth,

    Amenjo.

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    Default Re: The Voynich Manuscript: the book that can't be read

    I saw a video here on PA about an australian woman who had a lot of interviews with kids that had

    been educated by Ets. There was a girl who wrote something on an ET.language. It looked like this.

    She also declared that wot we see as words was like big bundles of meaning. I dont remember the name of the video.

    maybye someone else does. It was two weeks ago.

    Thank you. Jorr

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    How did the Vatican miss this one?????

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    Quote Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
    She also declared that wot we see as words was like big bundles of meaning.
    Sometimes referred to as "logic bubbles", for example, if I say that someone is "gay" in the sense that they look for same-sex relationships, I have a bundle of associated ideas that go along with the concept. But my logic bubble is probably different from yours.

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    wow I honestly don't know anything about this and I hope anyone here can give us a clue please. Knowing that it's in an unknown language makes it more interesting.

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    Thanks Amenjo , very intresting

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    Default Re: The Voynich Manuscript: the book that can't be read

    Yes, to my understanding, the very best codebreakers in the NSA had been tasked to decipher this document.

    It has never been deciphered publicly...and this book (more like a folio) just goes on for pages and pages. I believe I read an article in Discover or Scientific American in the last few years which decried it as a hoax...due to our inability to decipher the symbols. The article offered no explanation whatsoever concerning the diagrams of various plants, some of which do not appear on Earth, or what seems to be a pretty accurate map of the Milky Way Galaxy...which you realize no one has ever actually seen from above.

    There is somewhere online where you can view pages of the folio--actually Amenjo gives that link up above---Thank You.

    This is one of those wonderfully rich enigmas that make life worth living:-)
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    Quote Posted by Hiram (here)
    The Voynich manuscript has always been a deep fascination of mine.

    Thank you very much for starting a thread related to this! I encourage anyone who has not heard of this simply amazing book, to please read about it.

    Witness Dan Burisch also referred to it a number of times...despite what you think of Mr. Burisch, I think the manuscript is on someone's radar.
    I think much of Dan. I think that his descriptions/images of the Looking Glass and the Yellowbook may have potentially been the part that got him in trouble... and that situation that ended with him almost dead.

    When he described them I said quietly, "Holy ****....!"

    If one understands the aspects of vortex mechanics and fluid dimensional coupling/breaching/gating systems....well....that was entirely too much information!

    As innocent and confusing as it may appear..IMO, and IME .... that's the real McCoy, folks.
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    I have never seen nor heard of this book. I will now look.
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    Page 127 may have to do with the dimensional-dual doorway pathway of the duality of man/avatar system.

    The doorway, two fish, then the main zodiac, then further digression/main types. A breakdown, if you will.

    it seems to relate to dimensional energies and astrology archetypes... created in the harmonic multidimensional aspects.

    I've only looked at it for a few seconds, though.


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Yes. all the circular and symbolic stuff appears to be astrological dimensional doorway related.

    The mechanics of dimensional expressions as related to being a human on this plane.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The six page layout seems to be map of dimensions/astral planes.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    page 121 seems to be about the light/dark dimensional doorway expression of the 12 main zodiacal archetypes.
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    Hi all,

    Amazing isn't it! The more you look into it the more you will find.

    Seems to me a big clue to this experiment we are in.

    Love and Truth,

    Amenjo

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    Default Re: The Voynich Manuscript: the book that can't be read

    actually it is really amazing

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    My observation tells me that it is a fake. A few things lead me to conclude this.

    a. The quality of the overall manuscript. it is not good. If this was a script prepared my masters it would be prepared masterfully. It is not. Compare it to others which are......

    b. The pictures are not good quality in the least. Evidence which suggests that the picture of the milky way is good enough, congruent enough with an accurate presentation of the actual position of things is not exactly spectacular.

    c. Even if at the time pictures of the milky was were known of and posessed by the 'caretakers' at this point - this book itself looks to be something set as a task to students. To practice their hand at encryption, to practice their hand at writing. They may have had access to many other things that were totally masterful and accurate, but that does not mean they were either allowed to or did, present them accuratly in this book.

    d. If it WAS accurate in ANY meaningful way WE WOULD NOT BE LOOKING AT IT.

    e. The syntax looks totaly suspect.

    f. Once finished for practice, it would have commanded a respectable sum from a gullible Prince, somewhere on the other side of Europe from where it was composed - just incase he discovered it was no magical text at all.
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    It is so ironic that you would post this new thread on this manuscript, as I only just became aware of it the day you posted on this. Thank you for putting this out there for everyone. When I was looking online to see larger images of some of the pages, what I noticed was that there are repeated patterns in the writing that make the "words" not seem like words to me, but maybe a coded language (not just an ancient or obscure language). Some of the scripting seems like repeating symbols rather than letters. But what do I know? Anyhow, it's all fascinating and mysterious and I, like many, would love to know what information is written about in that book.

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    Quote Posted by Truth Seeker (here)
    It is so ironic that you would post this new thread on this manuscript, as I only just became aware of it the day you posted on this. Thank you for putting this out there for everyone. When I was looking online to see larger images of some of the pages, what I noticed was that there are repeated patterns in the writing that make the "words" not seem like words to me, but maybe a coded language (not just an ancient or obscure language). Some of the scripting seems like repeating symbols rather than letters. But what do I know? Anyhow, it's all fascinating and mysterious and I, like many, would love to know what information is written about in that book.
    Many cryptologists have studied the manuscript, but to no avail. It seems to follow certain rules of language but not others.

    It definitely looks code based. Some of the illustrations have definite relations to genetic experiments of some kind.

    I was quite awe struck when I first looked at it.

    I just hope other people on Avalon get to see it, as it is very inspiring.

    Love and Truth,

    Amenjo
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    Ps

    If you enjoyed this information please leave a comment.

    Love and Truth,

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    Default Re: The Voynich Manuscript: the book that can't be read

    Thank you very intresting !

    Hmm .....

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    Default Re: The Voynich Manuscript: the book that can't be read

    As the thread says...amazing. There's all kinds of info in there. Interestingly, the page numbers appear to be in understandable numerals.

    I think we're going to have to ask our linguist specialist, Bry Ap Gwilym. Maybe it is something from another dimensional place.

    Thanks for this, Amenjo. Hours of fun! Very special indeed.

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