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    Well, folks just need to keep digging for the truth.
    ask and you shall recieve.... we hope.

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    Can anyone confirm Robert Parker works for Serco? The Robert Parker in the SH photos?
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    Can this get more "weirder/stranger" than this???? This is way beyond coincidence, let alone bizzarre!!!!!!

    Quote Another Sandy Hook Coincidence: ‘Dark Knight Rises’ Prop Master Scott Getzinger Died in April 2012 Car Accident

    According to Master Propsman’s Scott Gettzinger’s IMDB page, his date of birth was December 30th, 1965. He was born in Branford, Connecticut. He died on April 7th, 2012 in Stamford, Connecticut. His wake was at St. Rose Cemetery in Newtown, Connecticut, the same cemetery where mourning took place for the victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary massacre.

    http://sgtreport.com/2013/01/sandy-h...ning-injuries/


    STAMFORD -- A 46-year-old Newtown man who worked behind the scenes on numerous blockbuster films was killed in a head-on accident on the Merritt Parkway Friday evening.

    Scott Getzinger, a property master who provided props for more than 25 films, including "Spider-Man," "Independence Day," "The Truman Show" and the upcoming "Men in Black III" and "The Dark Knight Rises," died at Stamford Hospital after sustaining severe injuries.

    http://www.dailypaul.com/267785/prop...-movie-release




    An Even Clearer Picture About Sandy Hook


    Scotts' accident and condition, according to State Police
    http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news...n-Stamford-acc...
    (PAGE HAS BEEN REMOVED)

    Susan, Scotts' wife, on video with BOE about Sandy Hook Special Services


    Anyone who may have had questions about the placement of the words “Sandy Hook’ on a map in the film ‘The Dark Knight Rises’, may first seek an explanation for it from the film’s prop master, Scott Getzinger. Alas, that is not possible since the man is deceased.
    Quote The accident was reported at 7:02 p.m. when a 1999 Lexus RX300 driven by Alexandra Orteig, 18, of New Canaan."
    http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news...ewtown-man-die...
    (page/link removed)

    There was a "passenger" with Ms. Orteig when the accident happened, but they did not go to the hospital and were not identified.

    Alexandra Orteig's father, Stephen Orteig, is a member of the U.N. Committee of New Cannan.
    http://uncommitteeofnc.org/aboutus.html
    A head on accident? Isn't that where to cars drive into each other head on? Did you see that parkway, with trees in the meridian?

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    A head on accident? Isn't that where to cars drive into each other head on? Did you see that parkway, with trees in the meridian?
    That picture of cars stopped on the right side, with a median having two guard rails and trees, is probably not a picture of the road where Scott Getzinger crashed.

    The report at http://www.imdb.com/news/ni25977522/ also states it was a head on collision:

    R.I.P. Scott Getzinger

    9 April 2012 6:25 PM, PDT

    Popular prop master for a number of big films and television series, Scott Getzinger was killed Friday night in a head-on collision in Stamford, Conn, when his truck was struck by a car driven by an 18-year-old. Getzinger’s credits include Shutter Island, Salt, Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull, and such upcoming films as The Dark Knight Rises and Men In Black III. He was also the property master on Showtime’s series pilot Masters & Johnson and AMC’s Rubicon.
    I would guess that that picture in the post above is showing cars parked along both sides of the road for someone's funeral ... just a guess.

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    I would guess that that picture in the post above is showing cars parked along both sides of the road for someone's funeral ... just a guess.
    Aha - I found that image. I was wrong. From http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news...nt-3465225.php

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    Newtown man dies in Stamford accident
    Staff reports
    Updated 6:55 pm, Saturday, April 7, 2012

    Traffic on the Merritt Parkway sits at a standstill following an
    accident Friday evening between extis 35 and 36 northbound.
    Photo: Contributed Photo / CT
    STAMFORD -- A 46-year-old Newtown man who worked behind the scenes on numerous blockbuster films was killed in a head-on accident on the Merritt Parkway Friday evening.

    Scott Getzinger, a property master who provided props for more than 25 films, including "Spider-Man," "Independence Day," "The Truman Show" and the upcoming "Men in Black III" and "The Dark Knight Rises," died at Stamford Hospital after sustaining severe injuries.

    Getzinger suffered multiple broken bones, but was described as conscious and alert after being cut out of the 2002 Ford F-150 pickup truck he was driving. State police initially characterized his injuries as non-life threatening.

    The accident was reported at 7:02 p.m. when a 1999 Lexus RX300 driven by Alexandra Orteig, 18, of New Canaan lost control while traveling south on the parkway near Exit 36 and spun around, striking the center median guardrail and crossing over the highway into the northbound lanes.

    Getzinger was driving northbound in the right-hand lane when the Lexus SUV slammed head-on crushing the front-end of his truck.

    Orteig and a 17-year-old passenger also from New Canaan were also taken to Stamford Hospital. Orteig was admitted overnight and released Saturday. The passenger was not admitted to the hospital.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    One can see on Google maps that the 3.7 miles of parkway between exits 35 and 36 of Merritt Parkway, Stamford, CT is a divided highway with concrete barriers or dual metal guardrails.

    So I would guess that the other car in the head-on collision entered that limited access parkway by driving the wrong way down a one-way off ramp.

    ===

    P.S. -- I didn't read the news article very well. My "guess" was wrong. The colliding car managed to cross over the median barrier. Dang. I'd better get me a Lexus -- able to crash through a median barrier and collide head on into an oncoming pickup truck, killing the truck driver, without serious injury to those in the Lexus.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    One can see on Google maps that the 3.7 miles of parkway between exits 35 and 36 of Merritt Parkway, Stamford, CT is a divided highway with concrete barriers or dual metal guardrails.

    So I would guess that the other car in the head-on collision entered that limited access parkway by driving the wrong way down a one-way off ramp.
    Hmm. If so, it is interesting that this sort of suspicious driving, (drug, alcohol?) is not in the report. Usually police arrest people, or at least ticket them, for driving the wrong way and the police actions are then reported in the story. A luxury car gets into a head on collision with a pick up truck with minor injuries to the passengers of the luxury car, but the driver of the pick up dies of his injuries after the police characterized his injuries as non-life threatening. That sounds about right. Yeah right!
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    Quote Posted by Referee (here)
    What is this BS totaly caught and you tube complicit.

    Great find.

    So the Sandy School Support Fund https://newtown.uwwesternct.org/ was posted on Internet on Dec 11, 2012 three days before the Dec 14, 2012 shooting. After this was pinpointed by researcher LogicBeforeAuthority on Jan 6, Google apparently removed on Jan 7 the creation date from its database as shown in the video. It seems they may have now put it back on Jan 8.

    As explained here:
    Link : http://www.labnol.org/internet/searc...eb-pages/8410/

    If you type : https://www.google.com/search?q=inur...org&as_qdr=y15

    You will get something like this:



    The Sandy Hook School Support Fund website is made of just this one donation page (archived here as a JPG: http://www.vigli.org/Avalon/Sandy_Ho...ec-11-2012.JPG

    Which means that any would-be arguments such as "Oh, we are so sorry, this website was by pure coincidence originally set up with another layout 3 days before the shooting and we have now updated the website with this single "par ici la monnaie" webpage"... is for dummies to believe.
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    The two interviews in this video with parents are quite telling in different ways. The one where the family is 'acting' aggrieved has the father speaking some lines that are clearly written for him. He is a bad actor. In the other interview with Anderson Cooper towards the end of the video, the countenance of the mother is not one a a mother who just lost a child. No way. Unless, she is part of something very sick and willingly gave her child got a "greater cause".
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    Quote Posted by Jean-Luc (here)
    A quite good video indeed.
    As days are passing by, I have a feel that the information is being treated more and more professionnaly by conscious/awaken/concerned citizens.That's the way to go.


    28.000 views so far.
    But lets' be careful (me included) not to jump too fast to conclusions.

    Here is Niall Bradley's take on it (sott.net) :

    Quote Here is the Parker family photo: [Link] Here is a photo of Robbie Parker's two remaining daughters and their cousins with Obama: [Link] (5th image up from the bottom.)
    The middle of the two younger daughters has grown a little since the family photo was taken and she is now wearing her deceased sister's dress.

    So it's not a 'fact', much less anything "proving government complicity."
    Makes sense.

    See interesting discussion here: http://www.sott.net/article/255766-T...ered-Questions
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    One can see on Google maps that the 3.7 miles of parkway between exits 35 and 36 of Merritt Parkway, Stamford, CT is a divided highway with concrete barriers or dual metal guardrails.

    So I would guess that the other car in the head-on collision entered that limited access parkway by driving the wrong way down a one-way off ramp.
    Hmm. If so, it is interesting that this sort of suspicious driving, (drug, alcohol?) is not in the report. Usually police arrest people, or at least ticket them, for driving the wrong way and the police actions are then reported in the story. A luxury car gets into a head on collision with a pick up truck with minor injuries to the passengers of the luxury car, but the driver of the pick up dies of his injuries after the police characterized his injuries as non-life threatening. That sounds about right. Yeah right!
    The article actually says that the car was in the southbound lane and broke through the median guardrail???? In this photo I imagine the traffic is quite backed up and we can't see the area that the accident actually happened. The landscape may be a bit different up around that curve?

    What is also quite strange is who Getzinger's wife is; she is a major thorn in the Board of Educations side in Newtown and the surrounding communities, filing lawsuits, speaking out at board meetings, etc.

    Another strange "coincidence" is who was in the car that hit Getzinger?

    Quote Alexandra Orteig's father, Stephen Orteig, is a member of the U.N. Committee of New Cannan.
    http://uncommitteeofnc.org/aboutus.html
    It's truly mind-boggling to all the strange "coincidences" surrounding Sandy Hook/Newtown before the school shootings even took place....the shootings in a way connects everything together in some strange way.

    One reason Sandy Hook is on the Gotham City Map is because Scott Getzinger lived at or near sandy Hook and may of wrote it on there himself (he controlled PROPS). But he is dead and can't explain, convenient huh?

    ....this is rather strange too as to the father and brother of "alleged" shooter Adam Lanza and where they work and who for.

    Quote Nancy and her husband Peter, Adam's father, divorced in 2009. When they first filed for divorce in 2008, a judge ordered that they participate in a "parenting education program."
    Peter Lanza, who drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI, is a vice president at GE Capital and had been a partner at global accounting giant Ernst & Young.
    Adam's older brother Ryan Lanza, 24, has worked at Ernst & Young for four years, apparently following in his father's footsteps and carving out a solid niche in the tax practice. He too was interviewed by the FBI. Neither he nor his father is under any suspicion.
    "[Ryan] is a tax guy and he is clean as a whistle," a source familiar with his work said.
    http://gma.yahoo.com/connecticut-sho...opstories.html
    It would take too much band width to list all the "anomalies" surrounding this Sandy Hook shooting!
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    Dutchsinse: Time stamps show a month before the shooting a tribute video was uploaded to vimeo!! And more time stamp problems.

    This means these people were pre- selected or they are not dead!

    Do we have any law enforcment left in our country?

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    Do we have any law enforcment left in our country?
    Lots of them.

    The question is whose law they're enforcing.

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    Dutchsinse: Time stamps show a month before the shooting a tribute video was uploaded to vimeo!! And more time stamp problems.

    This means these people were pre- selected or they are not dead!

    Do we have any law enforcment left in our country?


    Is this for real????????????????????

    If so, why hasn't it hit mainstream????
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    The two interviews in this video with parents are quite telling in different ways. The one where the family is 'acting' aggrieved has the father speaking some lines that are clearly written for him. He is a bad actor. In the other interview with Anderson Cooper towards the end of the video, the countenance of the mother is not one a a mother who just lost a child. No way. Unless, she is part of something very sick and willingly gave her child got a "greater cause".

    By the way Obama, my ten year old daughter wanted to ask you about legislation... specific legislation. VERY specific legislation.
    This post will, at once, serve to both mystify and demystify MY condition, depending on the observer!

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    This video is worth it's own thread! imho

    A new fresh Sandy Hook thread, PLEASE Ref? or Paul?

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    Dutchsinse: Time stamps show a month before the shooting a tribute video was uploaded to vimeo!! And more time stamp problems.

    This means these people were pre- selected or they are not dead!

    Do we have any law enforcment left in our country?


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    Check out the dates on this google search! I got the link from Dutchsinse's facebook page!

    Check out the dates, something is really wrong here!


    https://www.google.com/search?q=sand...F13%2F2012&tbm

    Need some computer wizzes here to take a good look at this please.
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    Dutchsinse on his FB has retracted the Vimeo links - but has not provided any reason as to why he believes it was falsified. A friend of mine said you can enter the date when you upload a video as anything you want - but that wouldn't explain the number of views. I don't see how those could have happened.
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    Quote Posted by dddanieljjjamesss (here)
    Dutchsinse on his FB has retracted the Vimeo links - but has not provided any reason as to why he believes it was falsified. A friend of mine said you can enter the date when you upload a video as anything you want - but that wouldn't explain the number of views. I don't see how those could have happened.
    Some hacker/nerd/geek (idiot) is messing around bigtime with these dates etc it seems.....
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    [...]
    The accident was reported at 7:02 p.m. when a 1999 Lexus RX300 driven by Alexandra Orteig, 18, of New Canaan lost control while traveling south on the parkway near Exit 36 and spun around, striking the center median guardrail and crossing over the highway into the northbound lanes.

    Getzinger was driving northbound in the right-hand lane when the Lexus SUV slammed head-on crushing the front-end of his truck.

    Orteig and a 17-year-old passenger also from New Canaan were also taken to Stamford Hospital. Orteig was admitted overnight and released Saturday. The passenger was not admitted to the hospital.

    [...]
    ... suddenly... the above "sounds" familiar (from this post <---):

    Quote There was a movie just before christmas staring Jason Statham about this true
    story !! 'KILLER ELITE'...


    [Diana]

    Major Michael Marman/Sir Peter Horsely (1986)

    A complex case is examined in Sir Ranulph Fiennes' The Feather Men, a novelisation of an real-life story of intrigue and murder.

    The greater story unfolded in this fascinating book need only detain us momentarily: a secret 'army within an army' called 'The Feather Men' was formed during the 1970s, their purpose being to protect and support former SAS staff. Five former SAS men became the targets of a team of contract killers known as 'The Clinic', who were paid to murder them by the son of an Arabic businessman. Four of the sons of this businessman had been separately killed by the SAS men in question during skirmishes in the Dhofar region of the Arab Emirates in the 1960s and -70s, and the fifth son was determined to honour the principle of thaa'r -- the revenge killing of a relative's murderer.

    The Clinic had been watching Major Michael Marman, and had determined that he frequently drove along the A303 arterial road, in Wiltshire, south-west England, on personal business.

    While doing this, he was habitually alone, and the fact that his vehicle was a relatively flimsy Citroen 2CV meant that a crash was the perfect method to kill him. Nevertheless, the Clinic dared not tamper with Marman's car or deploy a driver to ram him off the road, since their contractual obligation to make the death appear accidental would almost certainly come unstuck under the slightest police investigation. They therefore decided to use a proxy: an apparently random driver who would unknowingly become the Clinic's untraceable instrument of execution, by colliding with Marman.

    Through relatively simple research, they discovered a businessman whose offices were in Plymouth and London, and who regularly drove between the two along the A303 road. This was Air Marshal (ret'd) Sir Peter Horsley, former equerry to the Duke of Edinburgh and to the Queen, and ex-Commander in Chief of Britain's atomic strike force, who now worked for an engineering firm, ML Holdings.

    Study and surveillance showed that Sir Peter was due to drive from London to Plymouth for a board meeting on 11 November 1986, at a time which would mean he would pass Major Marman in the opposite direction along the length of the A303. The Clinic then entered Horsely's garage during the night of 10-11 November, and, over an eight-hour period, fitted a 'parasite' braking system in the cavities of his BMW, in such a way that it couldn't be seen on immediate inspection. This radio-controlled system was powered by a scuba-diving cylinder of compressed air, which would allow each of the car's brakes to be applied separately, without the control of the driver.
    The next day, having practised their technique for weeks with stock cars and models, two of the Clinic members shadowed Horsely, while keeping in radio communication with a second Clinic team, shadowing Marman. As Marman's 2CV and Horsely's BMW approached each other along the A303, the parasite braking system was applied, and Horsely lost control of his vehicle, which was steered across the central reservation and into Marman's path. the ensuing collision killed Marman outright, and severely injured Horsely. Horsely was initially under suspicion of reckless driving, but fortunately had a witness who had been driving behind him, who testified that he had seen a puff of smoke emerge from the rear of Horsely's car immediately before he lost control: at inquest, the local coroner said the accident would remain unexplained. The more definitely so, since the Clinic's parasite brake-system had been secretly removed after the accident while the BMW was impounded at the police garage facility. The Feather Men, who failed to prevent this assassination, ultimately learned exactly how this scenario unfolded when they captured and interrogated the Clinic's chief assassin.

    If this scenario sounds incredible, one should bear in mind that the Chief Feather Man, SAS Commander Tommy MacPherson, allowed his name to be used in Fiennes's book, and revealed that part of the proceeds from sales had gone to the SAS Jubilee Fund. The Clinic's unwitting 'guided missile', Sir Peter Horsely --very much a real person -- recounts his side of this grotesque episode in his 1998 autobiography, Sounds From Another Room. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staged_Vehicle_Accident

    In his autobiography, Sounds From Another Room, Horsley says that he was accelerating to about 60 miles an hour when the car began to react strangely. He saw a grey Volvo closing up quickly behind him and as he was about to wave it past, his BMW spun sharply to the left, the brakes screeching, and then sharply to the right and back again. This is remarkably similar to what happened to the Mercedes before it struck the 13th pillar. Horsley was by now desperately trying to maintain control and he went on: “Out of the corner of my eye I saw the grey Volvo accelerating past me at high speed. My car had now developed a mind of its own as it swung broadside and skidded down the road. With a lurch it hit the central reservation, mounted the grass verge separating the two• lanes of the highway and crossed over into the opposite carriageway. I had just time to see a small car approaching from the opposite direction. I hit it sideways on with tremendous force. In a split-second the driver’s horror-stricken face was visible and I heard his hoarse scream.”

    Clive Owen explains the plot and its based on the above article....

    Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0oCUbArfCk
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