Ascension, Dolores Cannon and '5D': Splitting into two Earths

[araucaria]

[QUOTE=David Michael;781671]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by araucaria (here)

Hi again my friend,

Man, this is dangerous territory, I mean, claiming that the Mayans murdered people for their own good, so they could "resurrect" in a better realm. It´s pretty hard to believe that there is a positive side in making human sacrifices.

Honestly, there´s plenty of evidence that the Mayan priests and kings used their superior astronomy knowledge to lure their people, which were deliberately kept in ignorance, into believing that they had connections with the divine. So, the masses definitively believed that the sacrifices were a good and divine thing, but the Mayan elite knew better.

I mean, let´s say, as an example, that they knew a solar eclipse is going to happen "tomorrow", so they tell people that one of their gods is going to eat the sun tomorrow morning. Of course, their prediction is going to be fulfilled, then people will believe they are really connected to god, after all, how come they knew that it was going to happen in advance? Then during the eclipse, they tell people that they need to kill a bunch of them to make god give up on the idea of eating the sun. Then, they "sacrifice" people and the sun goes back to normal. Then, people believe them even more.

As far as the Mayan experts understand this issue, there used to be an elite among the Mayan, which used their superior secret knowledge to keep the masses under control by giving themselves a deity status.

So, if you ask me to believe that the Mayans killed people because they were good guys and just wanted to send them to heaven, I would say, no way. The whole story of sacrificing people to please the gods was deliberately constructed to keep the power on the hands of a selected minority.

There´s archaeological evidence showing that such knowledge was kept secret and well guarded on restricted access areas, such as secret chambers in temples, and could be accessed only by high priests and members of their elite.

Raf.

Ok I have something VERY VERY interesting for you to look at… I posted it here. I was used as a human counterpart during a Mayan Ritual from the Dresden Album on a Solar Eclipse that matched MY, My Mother's and My Grandmother's birthday. The Solar Eclipse was overhead my location, New York. This was on my 8th birthday, May 10, 1994.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...it-hole-we-go-

Hi David and thank you for joining this discussion. Your quoting has got a bit mixed up but no matter. Raf Morgan has now left the forum, and I am one of many who miss him.

Just a tiny question for now, regarding your birthday. I understand the 5-1 connection, but in terms of dates, that would seem to point primarily to May First, which I believe is an important date. How do you tie May 10 into this picture?

Incidentally, I remember watching an eclipse myself on my birthday as a small kid, nowhere near total where I was though.

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[araucaria]

Posted by David Michael (here)
'0' doesn't add anything in certain numerology calculations...

It had alot to do with the 'Saros' series eclipses... which that one was part of... anywho, just chiming in trying to push my story, as usual... lol, I just can't help myself...

Not sure I understand - a saros is 18 years and a few days. You won't get the repetitions you are seeing in your life.
For me here in France, May 10 was the day François Mitterrand was elected president in 1981, which may or may not be an important date.

Push your story as much as you like. But when you start telling fibs, you will be found out

[tonius]

Posted by turiya (here)
Regarding alien abductions, Cannon explained that the ETs are simply monitoring their own 'volunteers,' and making sure their physical bodies can handle the stresses of Earth-- that's why the implants are there, to track them so they can help at any time. The hybrids they're creating are being taken to other planets that need DNA to adapt to various conditions, she continued.

This made my day, if laughter really helps extend lifespan i became immortal today.

My opinion in a crude, direct,not complicated way.. : I think she is one of the best ET agenda pusher of all times, i guess the grandmother like figure helps the cause.

She just described the perfect zoo, i might as well put on a T-shirt with written on : ''Volunteerly'' and ''Proudly'' Implanted.

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[araucaria]

Posted by David Michael (here)

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by David Michael (here)
'0' doesn't add anything in certain numerology calculations...

It had alot to do with the 'Saros' series eclipses... which that one was part of... anywho, just chiming in trying to push my story, as usual... lol, I just can't help myself...

Not sure I understand - a saros is 18 years and a few days. You won't get the repetitions you are seeing in your life.

Now I am confused... what do you mean 'you won't get the repetitions you are seeing in your life'?

What I meant was there was only one May 10 in the whole century when there was an eclipse, and there is unlikely to be another any time soon. So there is something I am not understanding in what you said.

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[vilcabamba]

Posted by JohnEAngel (here)
Dolores that said that the disappearance of the bees was due to their having crossed over.

Wow, so the dissapearance of bees is NOT because of chemtrails and GMO crops? Wow, i must be an idiot. They are gone b/c they crossed into the higher dimensions! Oh my, and autistic children are not autistic b/c of the mercury and prions in the vaccine, it's because they are higher dimensional. I am starting to think the New Age movement is delusional!

[greybeard]

Dolores Cannon is brought to mind by all this
The earth separates etc
Im open to all possibilities but I don't necessarily believe in them -- all hypothetical.
Chris

https://www.youtube.com/c/DoloresCan...ression/videos

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by greybeard (here)
The earth separates etc

Meaningless and irrational. It doesn't stand up to 30 seconds of logic or rational thinking.

Best to discuss this on this existing thread:

• Dolores Cannon 5D Earth is Here!

[Open Minded Dude]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
The earth separates etc

Meaningless and irrational. It doesn't stand up to 30 seconds of logic or rational thinking.

Best to discuss this on this existing thread:

• Dolores Cannon 5D Earth is Here!

I agree but as an avid reader of her past life and ET life regression books I always understood this topic to be metaphorical referring to the schism in our society right now more intense than ever. She just misinterpreted what her regressed clients told her to be literal instread of symbolic.

[greybeard]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
The earth separates etc

Meaningless and irrational. It doesn't stand up to 30 seconds of logic or rational thinking.

Best to discuss this on this existing thread:

• Dolores Cannon 5D Earth is Here!

Everything is meaningless and totally irrational to me just now Bill.
I dont follow Dolores but a lot of people do.
Her "proof" is logical if you believe that hypnosis can reveal past lives.
The subconscious is aware beyond consciousness ability.
Who am I to say they are wrong?
A separation between the good and evil has happened before if you believe ancient Indian text and thats what Dolores claimed would happen
If similar happened now that would be an amazing 2020 October Surprise.
I will not hold my breath

Chris

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
I agree but as an avid reader of her past life and ET life regression books I always understood this topic to be metaphorical referring to the schism in our society right now more intense than ever. She just misinterpreted what her regressed clients told her to be literal instread of symbolic.

That's right. It's not a physical separation of the earth, that's absurd. It's a spiritual/metaphysical separation - of humanity - that will in effect create two realities. Which is exactly what's happening.

[Ami]

In my opinion, one of the brightest, shiniest people on Avalon is Carmody. I ALWAYS read his posts & try to understand what he is trying to get across...sadly much of his contributions are just over my head, lol.

I thought I remembered him years ago saying that Delores Cannon's "Separating Earth" WAS possible.

I have tried a quick search through his old posts to verify my memory of this.

I found this something written on 22nd August 2011 07:38

And again something written on 9th January 2014 03:50

My apologies - I do not remember how to post quotes specifically but feel free to search those dates in the archives.

I do not wish to put words in Carmody's mouth but it seems to me that he did not think this subject was irrational. Hopefully he can weigh in as I don't want to misrepresent his thoughts.

This is said with the highest respect for Bill, I hope this is helpful to someone.

Due to my location I don't post often but know that I love you all <3

[greybeard]

David Sereda also explained in detail how it is possible for the earth to do what Dolores Cannon said
I posted a lot of his videos a way back.
As an aside -- whole civilizations have disappeared without trace, maybe they were washed of the face of the planet, who knows.
However on the face of it in this reality I agree with Bill.
No two separate earths.
Chris

[XelNaga]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Dolores Cannon is brought to mind by all this
The earth separates etc
Im open to all possibilities but I don't necessarily believe in them -- all hypothetical.
Chris

https://www.youtube.com/c/DoloresCan...ression/videos

Hi greybeard,

This reminds me of something I've read in the Ra Material, Law of One. I read it some 10 years ago, but if I remember correctly, Ra said something along those lines. There will be two earths, one where STO people will go to, and this one where STS people will stay. Maybe what he/it meant was two earths in two different dimensions, or something like that.

[Open Minded Dude]

As I said in the other thread: it is metaphorical about the 'schism' in society. I loved her books but this point always made me scratch my head and I still interpret it as a symbolic message and that she misinterpreted it and took it literally.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Is this idea so hard to grasp when Humans can also split into two - a physical body and an etheric body (and there are other 'overlays' beyond that)?

One of the key arguments against the idea of 'ascension' is that humanity en masse cannot just ascend en masse, because we're all at different levels. My counter-argument is, it's not humanity that will ascend, it's the EARTH that will ascend. After all it is an organism, a living being in it's own right. And spiritual evolution is available to all.

The theory holds that we as passengers on the earth have the opportunity to ascend with the earth into its next incarnation (expressed in a higher realm of vibration) if and when that happens, but only if we meet that vibration. Those that do not, remain behind (on the shed skin, the old lower frequency earth). Whether we do or don't comes down to our own spiritual compatibility, karma, and perhaps personal choice.

If this can actually happen with the earth, who knows. But I don't see any reason, as far as natural spiritual laws go (as best I grasp them) why it cannot. Whether this 'shift' of frequency is imminent, or a million years away, is another question.

[Wind]

Posted by XelNaga (here)
This reminds me of something I've read in the Ra Material, Law of One. I read it some 10 years ago, but if I remember correctly, Ra said something along those lines. There will be two earths, one where STO people will go to, and this one where STS people will stay. Maybe what he/it meant was two earths in two different dimensions, or something like that.

Our planet is currently a third density planet moving into fourth density. We humans tend to be third density beings and during these times of harvest not many people are evolving into the fourth density due to lack of polarity in service to others and that plane of consciousness is not visible to us, except by choice and by rule fourth dimensity beings do not show themselves to us becase of our free will and they don't want to infringe it, unless they be the negative types. I suspect that even if a human being were to be ready to ascend to higher planes of consciousness they would not do that before dying in this physical form in this dimension. It would be their choice to live on that plane of density in their next incarnation. I don't think there would be any magical shift that would occur in one night here on planet Earth.

Density = density of consciousness - or density of vibration. Frequently used by Ra as an analog to what is currently thought of as “dimensions” in the Universe. The densities are organized into an eight-fold “octave” system, analogous to the musical octave and the visual light spectrum. Therefore the higher the density, the higher the level of consciousness.

The 3rd density being, having the potential for complete self-awareness, thus has the potential for minimum activation of all energy centers. The 4th, 5th, and 6th densities are those refining the higher energy centers. The 7th density is a density of completion and turning towards timelessness or foreverness.

RA: In the 4th and 5th densities the positive polarity functions without any need of the negative polarity and vice versa. It is to be noted that in attempting to sway 3rd density entities in choosing polarity there evolves a good bit of interaction between the two polarities. In 6th density, the density of unity, the 2 paths must take in each other. This is not difficult for the positive polarity which sends light/love to all otherselves. For the service-to self polarized entities it is difficult enough that at some point the negative polarity must be abandoned.

[Froddo]

Posted by Star Mariner (here)

Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
I agree but as an avid reader of her past life and ET life regression books I always understood this topic to be metaphorical referring to the schism in our society right now more intense than ever. She just misinterpreted what her regressed clients told her to be literal instread of symbolic.

That's right. It's not a physical separation of the earth, that's absurd. It's a spiritual/metaphysical separation - of humanity - that will in effect create two realities. Which is exactly what's happening.

For me the planet in on the verge of separation in two different timelines. At a phisical level we are all living in timeline 33, but some people is moving their no-phical bodies to time-line 42 (that is the process that some people call Ascension). The Spanish author David Topi have been explaining and following this very complex process for years. (most explanations only in Spanis, I´m sorry...)

https://davidtopi.net/todo-lo-que-ha...lnea-temporal/

Thanks.