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    thorite in (half arsed) copper setting...27uS/hr on contact, 10 at about an inch

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    Shannow, lovely photo of the thorite pendant. Is is your work? Where did you get your thorite stone (or the pendant)?

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    Dawn,
    I bought the stone off ebay, then made the pendant a couple weeks ago.

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    Shannow, I am glad you checked the strength of your stone. You are very lucky to find a thorite that large that is so low in radiation. I have many of them and everything I have that is bigger than a pencil lead of 1cm length is much stronger.

    I am mentioning this so that others are careful if they buy such stones that they check their strength. Yours is exceptionally weak for a thorite stone ..... and .... it is the perfect strength for a radiation hormesis stone.

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    Thanks Dawn for pointing out the danger of thorite. The crystals and thorite ore are often too radioactive.

    I just finished a radio-show on the subject. You need to either own a Geiger counter to evaluate your dose or purchase a known strength rock or bead set.

    Never irradiate yourself with an unknown source although ordinary depression era or modern uranium glass will always be safe.

    Ian
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    A comment For Dawn concerning composite pendants. These were hard magnapraise quartz with a hole drilled in them and a powerful thorite crystal of strength 60 uSv/hour. Coming from the outside it puts out 3.5 uSv/hour.

    I have a uranium pendant that puts out 11 USB/hour.

    Yet if I put the pendants, one at a time in my hand Dawn's low powered one puts out double the reading through a hand! So the filtering probably only allows very penetrating gamma to emerge from the quartz. The uranium ore one probably puts out alpha, beta and gamma. Not so penetrating.

    My feeling is that Dawns design works best for hormesis.

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    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/radi...464004677?mt=8

    May seem stupid and inane for $7.50 (Oz), but it definitely detects beta and gamma, in the right order of magnitude, and is not going to draw attantion at the op-shop when scanning stuff.

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    Shannow, I purchased this application this evening and am concerned about this disclamer which came with the software:
    Quote Important note: The camera sensor can measure gamma radiation (CS137 for example) and some beta radiation (depends on the energy if the beta rays can pass through the plastic parts - for example H3 or K14 are weak sources). It cannot measure alpha rays (PO210) For AM241 though its primary a Alpha source also some gamma radiation is emitted and might be detectable for a longer measurement.
    If only 'some' of the Beta radiation and almost none of the Alpha radiation are included in the measurements offered by this software.... then this could really sway the results you get when testing a source.

    During the next day or two, I am going to test some of the rocks and pendants I have with my radiation meter, and then again with the RadioactivityCounter software for the IPhone. The phone doesn't have the all important pancake or tube sensor that the radiation meters do, so it will be interesting to see how the measurements compare. I am curious

    I will let you know the results of my findings
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    DANGER!!!! The I Phone application is way, way, way OFF!!! I tested a pretty 'hot' stone that is NOT recommended for radiation hormesis except under very controlled circumstances. This stone checks out on my radiation meter as being...

    173 uSv/hr which is roughly equivalent to 173 uGy/hr

    On the I Pad software (RadioactivityCounter) this stone measures

    22,400 uSv/hr which is roughly equivalent to 22,400 uGy/hr

    This is simply not comparable in any way. It is just so 'off' that I don't even know how the two could be compared. If you test a stone to see if it is safe I have no idea if your IPhone application will give you any truly relevant data.

    I did recently calibrate my radiation meter by the way, so it is pretty accurate, though I trust Ian's Ludlum meter more than my more modern 'mini pancake' based meter. I also calibrated my IPhone software as specified by the manufacturer.

    This simply means that the IPhone meter is just ... way off. It is just not an accurate meter and not designed to be one.
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    Dawn, I checked the stone with a calibrated unit, not the Iphone.

    Iphone gives the same reading, but only in indoor lighting...take it anywhere remotely bright, and you are visiting meltdown.

    Like I said when I posted useful for checking stuff at the op-shop to see if it what you are after.

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    Thanks for letting me know you took care Shannow. Just so you know, the readings I took with the iphone were indoors and I had the sensor covered with black tape so light would not effect it, just as the iPhone program suggested. I'm interested that the iPhone program worked for you. I would love it if someone else here would double check as well. Perhaps the sensor in my iPhone is not acting properly???

    I think the idea that you could check on things at the 'op shop'(??? whatever that is???) might be OK.

    It seems, that using this program to check on the strength of uranium ore stones or other radiation sources used for hormesis might be really unwise. The exception is uranium glass... it is always safe, so there is no need to check it out except for curiosity.

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    Hi Dawn or Ian or whoever

    I thank you for your input on this thread. I have been reading the thread and keep seeing where some of you guys talk about measuring various items for their levels. I am not impressed with the Apple app but in looking around (OK, going to Ebay) to check out various counters I run across everything from 50s era Victoreen meters to $19.00 cheap plastic meters to $3500.00 Fluke meters. Do you have any suggestions or directions for a neophyte? All experienced and informed info appreciated.

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    Quote 1 Flew Over: Do you have any suggestions or directions for a neophyte? All experienced and informed info appreciated.
    Ian is likely more of an expert than I am and I hope he chimes in here. The industry standard for scientists is the old unwieldy 'Ludlum'. These are very sensitive and very accurate. I don't have one of these (yet)

    I've developed a good relationship with Ken Farmer, who owns the website Radioactive things. He has a rather inexpensive radiation meter which you can look at here: http://radioactivethings.com/geiger-counters.html

    I got one of these recently and found it to be compact and fairly accurate. It is a 'tube type' meter.

    The more accurate meters (and usually more expensive) are 'pancake type' meters which use a different type of sensor to pick up radiation.

    I have a pancake type and a tube type meter... and my definate favorite is the pancake meter. In fact, despite what I've said on earlier posts, my favorite meter is called the Mazur meter. The only issue I have with it is that it is not inexpensive.

    If you are going to be using it a lot, I'd recommend a meter with a 'pancake' type sensor. However if you are just going to play a bit I think a tube type is fine.

    Meter sensors do need to be re-calibrated as they age... so if you purchase a used older model you will need to do this. This is done by measuring something with a known radioactivity. If your older meter is not giving a proper reading on the known sample, you can multiply all future measurements by a correction factor.

    Happy hunting
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    Dawn

    It is great to see the time, care and willingness to exchange that is exhibited on this board toward other members. I thank you for your info.

    Be Well

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    Hello guys I wanted to report in to share the good news about helping a friend who has Crohn's disease. I was hesitant and slow in approaching my friend because she's a fellow co worker and didn't want to embarrass her or get laughed out. I met with her almost two months ago and presented radiation hormesis. She had no clue what it was and I explained all about it and if she would be interested in using some stones I had. These stones were purchased from Dawn for my own usage. I explained to her how the stones work and that they are natural from the earth. They give off natural radiation. I also explained to her to limit her consumption of sodas and sweets and anything that contains high fructose corn syrup. I also explained my theory in why she had what she had and a little about the immune system. She just recently went to the doctor that she has been visiting on a regular basis to get injections that cost a fortune. When her doctor tested her she tested negative for Crohn's like it was poof gone. The doctor was mystified and didn't have an answer for her. She was about to have a major surgery in the spring to remove half of her Colon. Shes very excited at the moment and wants to continue using the stones and shes about to start drinking water with some radiated beads I gave her to use. I have never seen her so excited its like a breath of fresh air. She did ask me how I knew what I knew and why I wasn't a doctor helping other people out there. I told her I have a network of friends who believe in solving issues the natural way here on Avalon. Well in our society what I did wouldn't have been even looked at by medial doctors as an option. I told her its my job to get the word out to help others and to do whats right. There are lots of people suffering and radiation hormesis can help as my story is living proof.

    If anybody has questions let me know.

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    I have to admit I don't know much about the effects of radiation...I've always heard there is NO safe level. However, I've always felt that there must be some individuals who can tolerate it, and that there IS a way to mitigate the effects of events like Fukushima, and the supposedly-depleted uranium that our nation has spread all over the middle east. So this is quite the fascinating thread for me, and when I have time I need to sit down and do some serious research. Thanks.

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    Quote Posted by Sith73 (here)
    Hello guys I wanted to report in to share the good news about helping a friend who has Crohn's disease. I was hesitant and slow in approaching my friend because she's a fellow co worker and didn't want to embarrass her or get laughed out. I met with her almost two months ago and presented radiation hormesis. She had no clue what it was and I explained all about it and if she would be interested in using some stones I had. These stones were purchased from Dawn for my own usage. I explained to her how the stones work and that they are natural from the earth. They give off natural radiation. I also explained to her to limit her consumption of sodas and sweets and anything that contains high fructose corn syrup. I also explained my theory in why she had what she had and a little about the immune system. She just recently went to the doctor that she has been visiting on a regular basis to get injections that cost a fortune. When her doctor tested her she tested negative for Crohn's like it was poof gone. The doctor was mystified and didn't have an answer for her. She was about to have a major surgery in the spring to remove half of her Colon. Shes very excited at the moment and wants to continue using the stones and shes about to start drinking water with some radiated beads I gave her to use. I have never seen her so excited its like a breath of fresh air. She did ask me how I knew what I knew and why I wasn't a doctor helping other people out there. I told her I have a network of friends who believe in solving issues the natural way here on Avalon. Well in our society what I did wouldn't have been even looked at by medial doctors as an option. I told her its my job to get the word out to help others and to do whats right. There are lots of people suffering and radiation hormesis can help as my story is living proof.

    If anybody has questions let me know.

    Love and Light to all!
    VERY cool example, glad you could help her (and she listened ) pretty awesome!

    so far I have yet to get sick since wearing my stone (and in the previous 33 years of my life I had always gotten sick at least 2-3 times a year, with one being really bad... it was just "how it was"... NOT ANYMORE!) but nothing as dramatic as saving half a colon!
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    Wow Sith! Thank you so much for sharing. I am beginning to understand just how much fungus and micotoxins (toxins from mold and fungus) we deal with in our food. There are a number of healing modalities which deal with this issue in from different angles.

    This story is easily understood if Chrones disease is seen as usually due to micotoxins and fungus in our food supply which then takes up residence in our bodies. Fungus is much more sensitive to radiation than human cells and is easily killed by low doses of radiation which do not bother human cells. If her Chrones was caused by fungus, then this would explain why her body healed.

    For all who are interested in following this fungus information beyond radiation and into how to avoid it in food, you will find this site interesting: www.bulletproofexec.com

    For example. All dried corn is covered in and filled with micotoxins. When it is fed to farm animals (corn fed beef, pork, sheep, and poultry)

    1. they concentrate the fungus toxins in their muscles and organs.

    2. When these animals are exposed to mold toxins in their food they develop inflammation and appear fat.

    3. The farmer gets more $ from selling fattened and heaver animals

    4. Then humans eat the 'fattened animals' that are full of mold toxins and the humans develop inflammation and get 'fat'.

    Other things full of fungus include coffee beans (no wonder coffee sometimes makes you shaky and jittery!), and most manufactured products. So, on the above web site there are specific steps on how to avoid all of this for your body.

    If you do have a problem with mold and fungus in your body then weak radiation can help you eradicate it.

    But ... if you wish to have true health, you must find a way NOT to ingest mold and fungus in every meal... your body just can't handle it on an ongoing basis and live a long and healthy lie.
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    This is an awesome thread.
    So, in the name of all that is bump worthy, I bump this thread.

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    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    This is an awesome thread.
    So, in the name of all that is bump worthy, I bump this thread.

    Ditto... 4 years and I still haven't gotten sick.
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