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    If we look at the science and spirituality from a metaphysical platform, we may note some interesting things, which normally go beyond our perception. However, they are visible if we pay a bit more attention.

    It seems that we are today in a situation which has been described by Rudolf Steiner long ago:

    Quote When the man of today thinks merely with his intellect and faculty of reason, his thoughts are not rooted in reality at all. More and more they move about in a shadowy existence which reached its climax during the nineteenth century. And today man is altogether devoid of the sense for reality. He lives within a spiritual element, but is at the same time a materialist. His thoughts — which are spiritual but yet merely shadow-thoughts — are directed entirely to material existence.

    Thus the second great process or event was that man became more spiritual. But the spiritual substance once derived from matter no longer ensouls him. His nature has become more spiritual, but with his spiritual faculties he thinks only about material existence.

    Lecture - Dornach; May 13, 1921]
    So, spiritual… but, - not ensouled?!

    We should keep “not ensouled” on our minds, as it seems not be by chance.
    If we go to Wikipedia for the definition of spirituality, we will see that something is missing there?! Of course, the Soul! So, one gets an impression that the spirituality does not have anything to do with the soul. In this reality, we do not have “Soul-ity”, we only have a Spirituality-without-the Soul.

    Many of us noted that something was wrong with the new-age spirit-ual movement, however, more or less, all spirit-uality could be wrong. Spirit-ual teachings are the same as religious teachings. They appeal to our Mind component (“whose thoughts are not rooted in reality”) and Spirit component, to rationalise them and to follow them. What are saints in religions, so are various spiritual teachers and gurus in the spirit-ual field.

    And, a normal human being , beside his physical body, has 3 (three) components! The Mind component, the Spirit component and the Soul component. We may even say, three kinds of consciousness, the Mind consciousness, the Spirit consciousness and the Soul consciousness. Not one, not two, but three. And the third one was taken out of “equation”. Why?

    Because, we live in a controlled reality, and in a controlled reality, we can only have a controlled spirit-uality. So called, archontic forces which control this reality, do not have the Soul component. However, to have a full expression in this holographic or virtual reality, one has to have all components. So, as the archons have the Mind component and the Spirit component, they are pumping various versions of false spirituality into our reality through people who act as their vehicles (or proxy-servers).

    The lack of the Soul component, they have compensated by development of the Mind component (intelligence/intellect) in many cases by the help of technology (AI). On our level, this is reflected by this drive, which souless humans currently have, towards transhumanism or singularity. In fact, for souless entities, this is the only way to proceed. Nothing wrong with that, if there could be a possibility that everybody goes where he wants by his own choice, however, they can not allow it. The problem is that although they do not have a soul, they still need it, so they have to use the souls from those who have it. The “soul thieves”, one may say.

    So, having on mind the esoteric principle “as above, so below”, we may ask ourselves how smart thieves operate in our reality? Of course, they would distract their victim, and while bringing his attention to something else, they would sneak their hands into his pocket. So, in this reality, the spirituality-without-the soul has been used for a long time for distraction of humanity, while they are “stealing” our souls. In a way, one may say that almost each spirit-ual teaching we are aware of in this reality, has been set up as a trap.

    **

    In the Eastern Gnosis, the Soul is regarded as a Master of the body, which is expressed in the Parable of the Coach, where the coach itself represents the physical body, horses the Spirit, the coachman the Mind/personality and in the coach was supposed to be a passenger, who was regarded as its master and navigator.

    So, in its normal state, the whole system is in a perfect state of operation: the coachman holds the reins firmly in his hands and drives the horses in the direction indicated by the master. However, in these times, the human being is far from the perfect state. The coachmen has fallen asleep, he is dreaming that he was the owner of the coach and so, he is unable to perceive the passenger; as he can not perceive or hear him, he steers the horses in a pretty dubious direction... or towards an abyss, one may say.

    As we know, many coachmen in this reality make themselves often busy with spirit-uality, science etc..., therefore, without a connection with their souls, they are coming into a situation which Russian esotericist Gurdjieff described long ago as: “Most of people spend whole their lives in a state of sleep. In the state of the sleep, some of them may make themselves busy with science, while others may even write books.”

    This means that being spiritual does not mean being awake, aware or conscious. The spiritual person/coachman is just operated by a program not much different than a religion, or any other ideology.

    **

    Now, lets go to the science. Without a definition for science, we can say straight away that the soul component was missing there, as well. The science takes even the consciousness as a “hidden parameter”, because it can not be seen, weighed or measured.

    Although, the concept of our universe as a hologram/virtual reality was expressed long ago (D. Bohm, Pribram etc.), these days, there is more and more evidence coming which indicate that it may be so. A reality can not be both, virtual and objective. So, if our reality is virtual, it can not be objective.

    Quote A virtual reality is here considered to be a reality created by information processing, and so by definition it cannot exist independently in and of itself, as it depends upon processing to exist. If the processing stops then the virtual reality must also cease to exist. In contrast an objective reality simply is, and does not need anything else to sustain it. This suggests two hypotheses about our reality:

    1. The objective reality (OR) hypothesis: That our physical reality is an objective reality that exists in and of itself, and being self-contained needs nothing outside of itself to explain it.

    2. The virtual reality (VR) hypothesis: That our physical reality is a virtual reality that depends upon information processing to exist, which processing must occur outside of itself.

    B. Whitworth, The Physical World as a Virtual Reality
    The real can not be measured by unreal. What would be objective in a virtual reality? The consciousness only, as it seems.

    Now comes an interesting part. During more than 40 years of research, Italian scientists lead by Dr Corrado Malanga have subjected numerous people who claimed that they were abducted by archons/aliens to hypnosis and they have discovered that really, all of them had all three components, however, in a sort of a disconnected state. So, there was no communication between them. The Mind component (“whose thought are not rooted in reality”) was usually leading the show inside the being, while the Soul component was ignored. They were able to “interview” each component separately.

    So, they found out that archons/aliens were utilising human souls for various purposes, while their human hosts were unaware of that, more or less. What the Souls are used for??

    Before answering this question, we will have a look at the following images, which I took from Dr Malanga’s work, Genesis III (unfortunately, still not translated into English):


    Spazio – Space; Tempo – Time
    Spirito – Spirit; Anima - Soul

    The Soul has been defined in space, in energy and in consciousness, so regarding that she consists from the the space and energy components, she projects itself along the time axis, in order to experience or learn about the spiritual reality. Therefore, a Soul may be incarnated into more human bodies, however, in different times.

    The Spirit has been defined in time, energy and consciousness, so regarding that he consists from the time and energy components, he projects itself along the space axis, in order to experience or learn about the spiritual reality. Therefore, a Spirit may be incarnated into more human bodies, however, in the same time.


    Mente – Mind

    The Mind has been defined in the space, time and consciousness, so regarding that it consists from the components of the space and time, it projects itself along the energy axis, in order to experience or learn about the spiritual reality.
    So, these three components can be regarded as the „Holy Trinity“ of a human being.

    **

    From the above, we may see that the Soul as a component of a human being, has some interesting properties. It has the energy and at the same time, she is eternal, as she exists across the time. It seems that this was a reason for her absence in “our” spirit-uality?!

    While our attention has been diverted to all other sides, the entities which manipulate and control this reality and humanity in general, have been manipulating our souls, in order to use their energy. They need the soul energy.

    And, by genetically manipulating our physical bodies, they hope to make such bodies for themselves, which would be able to bind a Soul, to make themselves eternal. (Throughout the time, they have been using many of us as “living tombs” where they store their “deads,” i.e. Spirit-Mind complexes, till new alien bodies become available to them. They will be fed or nurtured by our own soul energy during that time.)

    Furthermore, it seems that there must be a certain resonance between the Soul frequency and the body frequency. Current alien bodies seem not to have the required frequency. So, they are dependent on us.

    In this reality, we are controlled through dualities, as well. So, most of the spirit-ual teaching are addressing our binary Minds, and leading them to perform mental gymnastics in a never ending paradigm of reconciliation between good and bad, light and darkness, love and hate, black and white, hot and cold…etc. etc. which are just two different polarities of the same.

    On the other hand, a human being with integrated components (consciousness) does not see reality this way. Beside the “positive” and “negative”, there is a - third force (which is in Easter gnosis called the neutralising force). This force overcomes dualities and restores a balance, honouring life and the creation…
    So, each component of a human being is of an equal importance for his wholeness and it seems that they can be connected to each other, again, as they were at the beginning of time, before they were divided. (“Divide and conquer” means that if you divide the consciousness of a human being to its components, you can conquer him easily, as he is not whole, any more). People who manage to integrate their consciousness will become spiritual in a true sense, while those who are following some spiritual teachings and exercising prescribed spiritual practices may become spirit-ual, but divorced from their souls, as Steiner implied long ago!? The real spirituality will come from within and it will be based on all parts of one’s being. It will lead to an individualisation of a human being and to his ultimate liberation.

    **

    At the end, we may take some time to have a look at the movie the Never Ending Story, where we could interpret symbolically the kid Atreyu as our Spirit component, the luckdragon Falkor as our Mind component and the Childlike Empress, as our Soul component:



    Everything is expressed there. It is all about the integration of our consciousness through the integration of all our components in the virtual reality universe .

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    Just in momentarily, as I have an evening of writing to do, but wanted to comment as I saw an old post of mine had been resurrected.

    I continue to believe this thread is important, despite its originator's absence. He is well, in case anyone was wondering.

    Linda, I understand where you are coming from, I think Anchor's post explores the implications adequately. Reilly's invocation of "Their Mind" brings us full circle, as the metaphysical discussion engaged in here began elsewhere, with other discussions about Archons/Flyers/Foreign Installation/Asuras etc., Artificial Intelligence and Mind Control, to the effect that certain energies were raised which are inimical to the free and unfiltered expression of certain forms of truth.

    There is relativity and there is Relativity. There is truth and there is Truth.

    In my statement, words are power, I meant that actually quite literally in the foundational aspect of sound as the fundamental 'stuff of creation' itself, as vibration, resonance. Words are an expression of this fundamental power and, as such, contain power themselves. It is my understanding that even if words are used differently, obtain varying meanings over time and through space, their original meanings are still implicit in their verbal invocation.

    Our understanding of the word itself, its etymology and cultural usage may not directly invoke its original meaning, but the sound itself and its underlying associations with deeper, cosmic forces that have correspondingly greater meanings forms the very basis of magic, of casting spells, of wielding aural tones as instruments of multiversal communication designed to affect reality at mundane and higher levels of materialization. I used a very disturbing example of this in an earlier response on this thread. A word that went from meaning God to meaning the lowest of human beings. And yet, still, that word still possesses the power of its original meaning, very clearly, as all who have used it or heard it know from personal experience.

    In regards to "Their Mind" and emotions, the process of awakening seems to automatically result in a clearing of that particular thorn in the consciousness of those seeking a higher state of personal expression. Once a certain understanding is reached, it does not matter where the thoughts which result in emotional uprisings (from the hypothalamus, yes, a physical thing and a chemical reaction, but thoughts and consciousness are not dependent upon bodily incarnation) originate. Their clearing, which is accomplished by the same methods no matter the tradition or belief, is the same.

    I appreciate the relativity and limitations of language and the patience required to slog through the time necessary in order to foment clear understanding. It is worth it, though. All contributions are worthwhile and it is in the discussion that we each come to understand, not necessarily others, but ourselves even more. Thank you for Being.
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    As a more general statement, if it is agreement with the forum staff, I would like to take over as OP of this thread, this thread has been on my mind as of late, and I'd like to see it continue in the spirit with which it was begun.
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    Here is where Science and Spirituality meet:

    "Lay Down Your Truth and Check Your Weapons
    The Next Voice You Hear Will Be Your OWN"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhS69C1tr0w

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    I love your contributions and thank you for them. It occurs to me how beautifully we perceive ourselves. . . isn't it fun!

    Blessings.

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    G2 Cloud Predicted to Approach Twice as Close to GC: an update to the story on the G2 Cloud’s approach to the Galactic Core by our friend Dr. Paul LaViolette. Event date has been moved up to center on/around March 2014 +/– one month.

    http://etheric.com/g2-cloud-predicte...s-close-to-gc/

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    Quote Posted by sms (here)
    If we look at the science and spirituality from a metaphysical platform, we may note some interesting things, which normally go beyond our perception. However, they are visible if we pay a bit more attention.

    It seems that we are today in a situation which has been described by Rudolf Steiner long ago:

    Quote When the man of today thinks merely with his intellect and faculty of reason, his thoughts are not rooted in reality at all. More and more they move about in a shadowy existence which reached its climax during the nineteenth century. And today man is altogether devoid of the sense for reality. He lives within a spiritual element, but is at the same time a materialist. His thoughts — which are spiritual but yet merely shadow-thoughts — are directed entirely to material existence.

    Thus the second great process or event was that man became more spiritual. But the spiritual substance once derived from matter no longer ensouls him. His nature has become more spiritual, but with his spiritual faculties he thinks only about material existence.

    Lecture - Dornach; May 13, 1921]
    So, spiritual… but, - not ensouled?!

    We should keep “not ensouled” on our minds, as it seems not be by chance.
    If we go to Wikipedia for the definition of spirituality, we will see that something is missing there?! Of course, the Soul! So, one gets an impression that the spirituality does not have anything to do with the soul. In this reality, we do not have “Soul-ity”, we only have a Spirituality-without-the Soul.

    Many of us noted that something was wrong with the new-age spirit-ual movement, however, more or less, all spirit-uality could be wrong. Spirit-ual teachings are the same as religious teachings. They appeal to our Mind component (“whose thoughts are not rooted in reality”) and Spirit component, to rationalise them and to follow them. What are saints in religions, so are various spiritual teachers and gurus in the spirit-ual field.

    And, a normal human being , beside his physical body, has 3 (three) components! The Mind component, the Spirit component and the Soul component. We may even say, three kinds of consciousness, the Mind consciousness, the Spirit consciousness and the Soul consciousness. Not one, not two, but three. And the third one was taken out of “equation”. Why?

    Because, we live in a controlled reality, and in a controlled reality, we can only have a controlled spirit-uality. So called, archontic forces which control this reality, do not have the Soul component. However, to have a full expression in this holographic or virtual reality, one has to have all components. So, as the archons have the Mind component and the Spirit component, they are pumping various versions of false spirituality into our reality through people who act as their vehicles (or proxy-servers).

    The lack of the Soul component, they have compensated by development of the Mind component (intelligence/intellect) in many cases by the help of technology (AI). On our level, this is reflected by this drive, which souless humans currently have, towards transhumanism or singularity. In fact, for souless entities, this is the only way to proceed. Nothing wrong with that, if there could be a possibility that everybody goes where he wants by his own choice, however, they can not allow it. The problem is that although they do not have a soul, they still need it, so they have to use the souls from those who have it. The “soul thieves”, one may say.

    So, having on mind the esoteric principle “as above, so below”, we may ask ourselves how smart thieves operate in our reality? Of course, they would distract their victim, and while bringing his attention to something else, they would sneak their hands into his pocket. So, in this reality, the spirituality-without-the soul has been used for a long time for distraction of humanity, while they are “stealing” our souls. In a way, one may say that almost each spirit-ual teaching we are aware of in this reality, has been set up as a trap.

    **

    In the Eastern Gnosis, the Soul is regarded as a Master of the body, which is expressed in the Parable of the Coach, where the coach itself represents the physical body, horses the Spirit, the coachman the Mind/personality and in the coach was supposed to be a passenger, who was regarded as its master and navigator.

    So, in its normal state, the whole system is in a perfect state of operation: the coachman holds the reins firmly in his hands and drives the horses in the direction indicated by the master. However, in these times, the human being is far from the perfect state. The coachmen has fallen asleep, he is dreaming that he was the owner of the coach and so, he is unable to perceive the passenger; as he can not perceive or hear him, he steers the horses in a pretty dubious direction... or towards an abyss, one may say.

    As we know, many coachmen in this reality make themselves often busy with spirit-uality, science etc..., therefore, without a connection with their souls, they are coming into a situation which Russian esotericist Gurdjieff described long ago as: “Most of people spend whole their lives in a state of sleep. In the state of the sleep, some of them may make themselves busy with science, while others may even write books.”

    This means that being spiritual does not mean being awake, aware or conscious. The spiritual person/coachman is just operated by a program not much different than a religion, or any other ideology.

    **

    Now, lets go to the science. Without a definition for science, we can say straight away that the soul component was missing there, as well. The science takes even the consciousness as a “hidden parameter”, because it can not be seen, weighed or measured.

    Although, the concept of our universe as a hologram/virtual reality was expressed long ago (D. Bohm, Pribram etc.), these days, there is more and more evidence coming which indicate that it may be so. A reality can not be both, virtual and objective. So, if our reality is virtual, it can not be objective.

    Quote A virtual reality is here considered to be a reality created by information processing, and so by definition it cannot exist independently in and of itself, as it depends upon processing to exist. If the processing stops then the virtual reality must also cease to exist. In contrast an objective reality simply is, and does not need anything else to sustain it. This suggests two hypotheses about our reality:

    1. The objective reality (OR) hypothesis: That our physical reality is an objective reality that exists in and of itself, and being self-contained needs nothing outside of itself to explain it.

    2. The virtual reality (VR) hypothesis: That our physical reality is a virtual reality that depends upon information processing to exist, which processing must occur outside of itself.

    B. Whitworth, The Physical World as a Virtual Reality
    The real can not be measured by unreal. What would be objective in a virtual reality? The consciousness only, as it seems.

    Now comes an interesting part. During more than 40 years of research, Italian scientists lead by Dr Corrado Malanga have subjected numerous people who claimed that they were abducted by archons/aliens to hypnosis and they have discovered that really, all of them had all three components, however, in a sort of a disconnected state. So, there was no communication between them. The Mind component (“whose thought are not rooted in reality”) was usually leading the show inside the being, while the Soul component was ignored. They were able to “interview” each component separately.

    So, they found out that archons/aliens were utilising human souls for various purposes, while their human hosts were unaware of that, more or less. What the Souls are used for??

    Before answering this question, we will have a look at the following images, which I took from Dr Malanga’s work, Genesis III (unfortunately, still not translated into English):


    Spazio – Space; Tempo – Time
    Spirito – Spirit; Anima - Soul

    The Soul has been defined in space, in energy and in consciousness, so regarding that she consists from the the space and energy components, she projects itself along the time axis, in order to experience or learn about the spiritual reality. Therefore, a Soul may be incarnated into more human bodies, however, in different times.

    The Spirit has been defined in time, energy and consciousness, so regarding that he consists from the time and energy components, he projects itself along the space axis, in order to experience or learn about the spiritual reality. Therefore, a Spirit may be incarnated into more human bodies, however, in the same time.


    Mente – Mind

    The Mind has been defined in the space, time and consciousness, so regarding that it consists from the components of the space and time, it projects itself along the energy axis, in order to experience or learn about the spiritual reality.
    So, these three components can be regarded as the „Holy Trinity“ of a human being.

    **

    From the above, we may see that the Soul as a component of a human being, has some interesting properties. It has the energy and at the same time, she is eternal, as she exists across the time. It seems that this was a reason for her absence in “our” spirit-uality?!

    While our attention has been diverted to all other sides, the entities which manipulate and control this reality and humanity in general, have been manipulating our souls, in order to use their energy. They need the soul energy.

    And, by genetically manipulating our physical bodies, they hope to make such bodies for themselves, which would be able to bind a Soul, to make themselves eternal. (Throughout the time, they have been using many of us as “living tombs” where they store their “deads,” i.e. Spirit-Mind complexes, till new alien bodies become available to them. They will be fed or nurtured by our own soul energy during that time.)

    Furthermore, it seems that there must be a certain resonance between the Soul frequency and the body frequency. Current alien bodies seem not to have the required frequency. So, they are dependent on us.

    In this reality, we are controlled through dualities, as well. So, most of the spirit-ual teaching are addressing our binary Minds, and leading them to perform mental gymnastics in a never ending paradigm of reconciliation between good and bad, light and darkness, love and hate, black and white, hot and cold…etc. etc. which are just two different polarities of the same.

    On the other hand, a human being with integrated components (consciousness) does not see reality this way. Beside the “positive” and “negative”, there is a - third force (which is in Easter gnosis called the neutralising force). This force overcomes dualities and restores a balance, honouring life and the creation…
    So, each component of a human being is of an equal importance for his wholeness and it seems that they can be connected to each other, again, as they were at the beginning of time, before they were divided. (“Divide and conquer” means that if you divide the consciousness of a human being to its components, you can conquer him easily, as he is not whole, any more). People who manage to integrate their consciousness will become spiritual in a true sense, while those who are following some spiritual teachings and exercising prescribed spiritual practices may become spirit-ual, but divorced from their souls, as Steiner implied long ago!? The real spirituality will come from within and it will be based on all parts of one’s being. It will lead to an individualisation of a human being and to his ultimate liberation.

    **

    At the end, we may take some time to have a look at the movie the Never Ending Story, where we could interpret symbolically the kid Atreyu as our Spirit component, the luckdragon Falkor as our Mind component and the Childlike Empress, as our Soul component:



    Everything is expressed there. It is all about the integration of our consciousness through the integration of all our components in the virtual reality universe .

    Hi sms, with re to "reintegration" as a way to neutralise archontic interference wi our souls can one follow any technique eg Chris Thomas s as discussed in turiyas thread? ( sorry am not able to post links- must learn)-lb

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    Quote Posted by TOTHE (here)
    G2 Cloud Predicted to Approach Twice as Close to GC: an update to the story on the G2 Cloud’s approach to the Galactic Core by our friend Dr. Paul LaViolette. Event date has been moved up to center on/around March 2014 +/– one month.

    http://etheric.com/g2-cloud-predicte...s-close-to-gc/

    His blog & tracking history of G2 Cloud.
    http://starburstfound.org/superwaveblog/?p=300
    Thank-you for posting this. It has, in my estimation, the potential to be the most prophetic post yet on this forum .

    Here are the culminating words of LaViolette from the first link above. I used the notation 10<xx> for "ten to the power of xx", since I can't write superscripts here.

    =============
    It is known that a very high percentage of stars in our Galaxy are either binary star systems or are single stars orbited by jovian planets. Hence there is a high probability that the G2 cloud may harbor such a multi-body system. If this is the case, there is the danger that the Galactic core may tidally strip away and consume the system’s lower-mass companion star or one or more of the star’s planets at the time of pericenter passage of the core. For example, a one solar mass star similar to the Sun would have a tidal radius of 0.5 to 1 AU at its orbital pericenter which means that any stellar companions, planets, or debris orbiting at radii greater than this could be tidally stripped away from their orbit about the primary star and ultimately be pulled into the galactic core.

    In the case where an entire 100 jupiter mass brown dwarf were to plunge into the Galactic core in one discrete event, the energy release would be equivalent to that released in a hypernova, the most powerful of known supernova exposions (~10<53> ergs). This could be enough to jump-start the Galactic core into a Seyfert state and generate a potentially lethal superwave. If this amount of energy were delivered within the space of one day, this would release energy at the rate of 10<48> erg per second, giving a luminosity one hundred thousand times greater than the cosmic ray luminosity estimated to currently be coming from Sgr A* (based on my estimate of 10<43> ergs/s — see Subquantum Kinetics), and equivalent to the luminosity radiated by the active core in a Seyfert galaxy.

    We will know if such a scenario is going to occur by closely monitoring the G2 cloud. As the cloud nears pericenter, if we see it appear to divide and spawn off a subcloud that begins rapidly accelerating directly toward the Galactic core, we will know this worst case scenario is about to occur. This subcloud will contain within it the binary companion star or jovian planet that has been tidally stripped off from the parent star. At this point we will have about two months before its inevitable impact on the core, at which point an exceedingly bright gamma ray burst and cosmic ray spike will be detected on Earth, far greater than any we have seen until now. The superwave will have arrived at our doorstep, possibly heralded by earthquakes occurring a few days before.
    =============

    The earthquakes would occur first, because the gravity wave travels slightly faster than the gamma ray burst.

    Paul LaViolette's Galactic Superwave was discussed in more detail in the thread: Dr. Paul LaViolette's Super Wave Theory- 2012.

    When a major superwave hits the solar system, the immediate effects of earthquakes and the gamma ray burst (which could destroy our civilization's electrical grid and many electronic systems) are just the beginning. The resulting excitation of our sun can cause periods of global warming and glacial periods lasting thousands of years, and result in another major die-off of the majority of species on the planet.
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    Hi sms, with re to "reintegration" as a way to neutralise archontic interference wi our souls can one follow any technique eg Chris Thomas s as discussed in turiyas thread? ( sorry am not able to post links- must learn)-lb
    In my post, I was talking about „amputated“ spiritual teachings, where one can easily see that the soul component was usually missing. I have stressed there that all components of the human being are of equal importance and that they should be integrated. Chris’s teaching would come into the same category of “amputated spirituality”, as we can see that the soul component was present (though by ~ 20%!?), however, other components were missing, which is a bit peculiar case. His technique of integrating the soul with the body I would not comment.

    What I find amusing, recently I read the book Our Universal Journey, written by G. Kavassilas who was interviewed by Project Camelot - here and who obtained a lot of information about the situation on the field by projecting his spirit across the universe. From that perspective, he noted how we were controlled by an AI through our chakras (and Pineal gland). On the other hand, on the ground of reading akashic records, Chris states that our soul is connected to us through chakras. Is not it interesting to get two completely different information about the purpose of our chakras from seemingly credible sources?! Which one is right? In fact, the question would be like asking which of today’s religions was the right one.

    I would advise all teachers promoting 1 or 2-component-spirituality to read the book Masqerade of Angels written by Dr Karla Turner, where she described a rare case of Ted Rice, a psychic healer, who realised that he was manipulated by aliens to become a "spiritual teacher" and pulled out of the project. If he had not pulled out, today we would probably have a topic on this forum: “An Update On Our Evolution by Ted Rice”. I say, a rare case, as most of the others proceed under an impression that they were guided by a divine hand to work for the good of humanity, while in fact, acting as alien spiritual disinfo vehicles. After reading the book, look honestly and sincerely into the experiences in your own lives and compare them with Ted’s ones. You will see many parallels (though, probably in a different light).


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    Thanks sms i started reading Masquerade of Angels a few days ago, lb

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    Is there not one and only one metaphysic that explains it all, is it all, and subsumes all other metaphysical views, principles and models?

    Thus, when we discover that metaphysic, that is the end, no?

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    I would advise all teachers promoting 1 or 2-component-spirituality to read the book Masqerade of Angels written by Dr Karla Turner, where she described a rare case of Ted Rice, a psychic healer, who realised that he was manipulated by aliens to become a "spiritual teacher" and pulled out of the project. If he had not pulled out, today we would probably have a topic on this forum: “An Update On Our Evolution by Ted Rice”. I say, a rare case, as most of the others proceed under an impression that they were guided by a divine hand to work for the good of humanity, while in fact, acting as alien spiritual disinfo vehicles. After reading the book, look honestly and sincerely into the experiences in your own lives and compare them with Ted’s ones. You will see many parallels (though, probably in a different light).
    I prefer the actual book in my hand and so went to Amazon to purchase a copy. What a shock when I discovered a.) that it must be out of print and b.) that it is only available in used form and c.) the starting price is $320!!

    I have to settle for the PDF - thank goodness it is available that way.

    I must add that I started a thread over in "Spirituality" addressing this very point made by sms about so called "spiritual teachers" who are (and likely unwittingly are or they would not be so convincing)

    Quote acting as alien spiritual disinfo vehicles.
    This is exactly what inspired me to create this thread

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    Believe nothing ... consider everything. Share the tools that have helped you. Discard those that have not. At the end of the day the only ones we are truly responsible for is ourselves.
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
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    Quote Posted by TOTHE (here)
    G2 Cloud Predicted to Approach Twice as Close to GC: an update to the story on the G2 Cloud’s approach to the Galactic Core by our friend Dr. Paul LaViolette. Event date has been moved up to center on/around March 2014 +/– one month.

    http://etheric.com/g2-cloud-predicte...s-close-to-gc/

    His blog & tracking history of G2 Cloud.
    http://starburstfound.org/superwaveblog/?p=300
    Thank-you for posting this. It has, in my estimation, the potential to be the most prophetic post yet on this forum .

    Here are the culminating words of LaViolette from the first link above. I used the notation 10<xx> for "ten to the power of xx", since I can't write superscripts here.

    =============
    It is known that a very high percentage of stars in our Galaxy are either binary star systems or are single stars orbited by jovian planets. Hence there is a high probability that the G2 cloud may harbor such a multi-body system. If this is the case, there is the danger that the Galactic core may tidally strip away and consume the system’s lower-mass companion star or one or more of the star’s planets at the time of pericenter passage of the core. For example, a one solar mass star similar to the Sun would have a tidal radius of 0.5 to 1 AU at its orbital pericenter which means that any stellar companions, planets, or debris orbiting at radii greater than this could be tidally stripped away from their orbit about the primary star and ultimately be pulled into the galactic core.

    In the case where an entire 100 jupiter mass brown dwarf were to plunge into the Galactic core in one discrete event, the energy release would be equivalent to that released in a hypernova, the most powerful of known supernova exposions (~10<53> ergs). This could be enough to jump-start the Galactic core into a Seyfert state and generate a potentially lethal superwave. If this amount of energy were delivered within the space of one day, this would release energy at the rate of 10<48> erg per second, giving a luminosity one hundred thousand times greater than the cosmic ray luminosity estimated to currently be coming from Sgr A* (based on my estimate of 10<43> ergs/s — see Subquantum Kinetics), and equivalent to the luminosity radiated by the active core in a Seyfert galaxy.

    We will know if such a scenario is going to occur by closely monitoring the G2 cloud. As the cloud nears pericenter, if we see it appear to divide and spawn off a subcloud that begins rapidly accelerating directly toward the Galactic core, we will know this worst case scenario is about to occur. This subcloud will contain within it the binary companion star or jovian planet that has been tidally stripped off from the parent star. At this point we will have about two months before its inevitable impact on the core, at which point an exceedingly bright gamma ray burst and cosmic ray spike will be detected on Earth, far greater than any we have seen until now. The superwave will have arrived at our doorstep, possibly heralded by earthquakes occurring a few days before.
    =============

    The earthquakes would occur first, because the gravity wave travels slightly faster than the gamma ray burst.

    Paul LaViolette's Galactic Superwave was discussed in more detail in the thread: Dr. Paul LaViolette's Super Wave Theory- 2012.

    When a major superwave hits the solar system, the immediate effects of earthquakes and the gamma ray burst (which could destroy our civilization's electrical grid and many electronic systems) are just the beginning. The resulting excitation of our sun can cause periods of global warming and glacial periods lasting thousands of years, and result in another major die-off of the majority of species on the planet.
    Here is one of Paul LaVoilette's latest interviews where he discusses the possible effects of the G2 cloud interacting with the Sagitarius A "so-called black hole" region. He also discusses a list of other very important topics.
    Why not now?

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    Here is one of Paul LaVoilette's latest interviews where he discusses the possible effects of the G2 cloud interacting with the Sagitarius A "so-called black hole" region. He also discusses a list of other very important topics.
    Awesome - thanks!
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    Another interesting interview, this one by Matt Pulver, who has been working with Paul LaViolette to model subquantum kinetics, and who is also working with Kerry Cassidy on a new web site Blue Science:


    I had made an effort a year ago to assist Paul LaViolette and Matt Pulver on modeling subquantum kinetics, but my mathematical skills with partial differential equations and the like were woefully inadequate to the task.
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    Another interesting interview, this one by Matt Pulver, who has been working with Paul LaViolette to model subquantum kinetics, and who is also working with Kerry Cassidy on a new web site Blue Science:
    I found the original blurb describing this interview of Matt Pulver at John Maguire: YouTube Audio (1:21:36) Blue Science’s Matt Pulver: Subquantum Kinetics, Pathological Science, and Modeling Consciousness:
    Published on May 17, 2013

    Interview with Physicist and Consciousness Researcher Matt Pulver on the topics of Theoretical Physics, the Sociology of Science, and Consciousness/Perception. Matt works with Dr. Paul LaViolette in modeling Subquantum Kinetics; Dr. Paul’s novel systems approach to microphysics and cosmology. Matt is also the coordinator of Project Camelot’s Blue Science, an undertaking intended to expand public awareness of ‘Censored Science’. Reference Abstracted Outline below for effective skimming:

    0.min-6.min: Matt’s Academic experience; Project Camelot/Blue Science; Funding in Academia; the Independent Researcher; Kerry Cassidy

    6.min-30.min: Collaberative work with Dr. Paul LaViolette; Predictions of Subquantum Kinetics; String Theory as a Brain Drain; Particles as Dissipative Structures; Gravity; Unaccounted Core Energy in Planets/Stars; Genic Energy; Galactic Superwaves; Pioneer Anomaly; Was There a Big Bang; Red Shift as a Doppler Effect; Red Shift as Tired Light Effect; Micro Physics as an Open System Phenomenon

    31.min-37.min: Science in Academia; Was the Ether Disproven; Politics of the Master Game; Black Projects; Phil Schneider and Underground Bases; Sociology of Science; Thrive Movie

    38.min-54.min: Ra and the Law of One; Space for Spirituality; Gödel’s Theorem; Philosophy/History of Mathematics; Consciousness; False-Flags; What Is Truth; Russell’s Paradox; Formal Number Theory; Shortcomings/Limitations of Mathematical Logic/Proofs; Qualitative vs. Quantitative Thinking

    55.min-1.hour.2.min: Structure of Consciousness; Altered Perception; Limitations of Awareness; Archetypes and Artifacts; Embracing Paradox and Holism

    1.hour.3.min-1.hour.21.min: Where Does Consciousness Come From; Self-Awareness and God; Electrogravitics; Reverse Engineering B2-Bomber; T. Townsend Brown; Anti-Gravity; Cloaking/Stealth; Philadelphia Experiment; Gravitational Potential/Vector Force; The Scalar Ether; Over-Unity Prototypes
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    I had my run in with these aliens early in my life. They were grooming me for certain high-level tasks (I've no idea what they were), but I quickly saw through the ruse and quit tuning in to the "station". "They" did not like that much. I'm sure they have manipulated the events in my life since. "They" have since, on occasion, tried recruiting me with "recieved" images and thoughts but their signal is slightly sour and easy to spot.

    "They" cannot dupe me and that pisses them off to no end, I'm sure. I've always wondered why they just did not take me out, I mean why mess with my entire life?

    By the way, there actually is a connection directly to Source and it cannot be mistaken for anything else. Once you've had that experience "they" are very easy to spot.
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    The Afterlife Investigations: The Scole Experiments

    Very annoying background music and narrator, but the info is interesting. I've had paranormal experiences that have convinced me it's possible to connect with those on the other side.
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    For five years a group of mediums and scientists witnessed more phenomena than in any other experiment in the history of the paranormal, including: recorded conversations with the dead, written messages on sealed film, video of spirit faces and even spirit forms materializing
    Each breath a gift...
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    Great Post. I've enjoyed rereading this thread as there was a ton of stuff I missed the first time around.



    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
    I am aware that two other threads have begun on the forum pertaining to the New Age, which I will abbreviate NA if referred to in future postings. I think this is good because the NA has profoundly impacted the last two decades. There is much most of us owe to the pioneers of it and the culture that sprang from it. Like the hippie culture and the alternative press it has been infiltrated deeply. The types who do this will often occupy places of influence. It is how the game is played. It is also where the money to be had is. Please do not make me have to issue a disclaimer after every statement I make. I am counting on people to know I am not speaking in absolutes but generalities. It is how life is. Black and white are the termini for the pendulum swings with most action and reality occurring in between these two points. Who is genuine? By their fruits you will know them.

    An interesting kind of black and white scenario germane to this conversation of metaphysics is the concept of tradition.

    In the martial arts, it was standard practice, in the East, to have to earn ones way into a school. The concept of proper temperament and appreciation for a time honored practice was very important. There were all kinds of stories of how long and what people did to get accepted into a good school/dojo/dojang/kwoon. To our Western mind this kind of tradition look both ridiculous and abusive. To most of us. My take is that the Eastern and Western attitude about this reflects those points of the pendulum swing I mentioned earlier. I think respect for a good teacher and tradition is something missing from Western culture, but not quite to the degree of washing floors and sleeping at the entrance of the school in Winter. To be sure sons of those with money usually found an easier road because to resist such customers often resulted in "bad luck" for a teacher with integrity. Corruption from the top is not a new phenomenon. Hopefully it will soon be an old one.

    This same circumstance of earning entrance to a school pertained to the mystery schools as well. In one instance you were being taught deadly combat skills and in the other you were taught how the cosmos worked. Also, administration skills were also part of this training. What was once considered a rounded classical education came out of these schools minus the esoterica. The Illuminati represent the "dark side" breakaway faction from the bigger Gnostic "Jedi Knights". Indulge me here. It was what are now known as the Illuminati (boo) that through underhandedness, lack of integrity and psychopathic natures, captured the upper hand and have done all they can to keep any challenges as dead as possible. Literally. The Albigensian Crusade against the Cathars of France was the one of the last big battles fought for dominance of Europe and the world.

    I'd call that a prologue but it was really just horizontal addressing of the larger subject.

    Ok, the emotional body discussion and why it has been a focus as the opener of this thread. We have a subtle anatomy, energetic layers, associated with different mixtures of chakras, that overlay or interpenetrate the physical body. Choosing the most apt term here is a balance between accuracy and understanding. There are good discussions of kundalini in Viveks thread, but in brief there are currents that ascend and descend along the spine. It is very valid to think in terms of a musical scale, if that sort of information speaks to you. A healthy fully fuctioning person will have their notes in harmony with each other. The white notes of a piano are a case in point. The black notes will sound dissonant to varying degrees. Some will add a somber tone and others will be quite unpleasant. This would be the frequency overlay of looking at vibrational health. Now, along with frequency there is also volume or intensity. One could play a scale or sound a chord in such a way as to have one note sound louder than the others. This is a different kind of imbalance. The phrase, "too much of a good thing" is apropos here. The emotional body is one of the notes in our subtle body anatomical system. It gets rung a lot. In the case of media and advertising this is done on purpose. In relationships this is often the case but it is not done on the conscious level as much. Sociopaths tend to consciously carry hammers to smack this part of people.

    As I mentioned before subtle bodies and chakras are intimately related. Chakras and the endocrine system are basically interface points between etheric/non-physical subtle anatomy and the physio/chemical body.

    Now, for many adults, preexisting conditions pertaining to growing up and the patterns they form haunt us and create patterns of powerlessness that get repeated and become part of our energetic signature. These ongoing experiences reinforce concepts we have about ourselves. They lie in the pain body of the emotional body. These wounds become semi-permanent. We get protective of these soft spots. We seek to protect anymore pressure or hits on these areas. Furthermore, powerlessness makes one want to show they are not, and one step further is the fear of being taken advantage of or made a fool because it only reinforces our powerlessness and that hurts! This last point is a big contributor to defensiveness.

    One manifestation of defensive behavior is to comb through spoken or written words looking for insults and/or slights. This is very self centered behavior. This is a descriptive and not pejorative statement. So, words intended for many can seem directed at the seeker of insults. This is the world of the pain body. One suffers very much alone. It is one of the reasons misery loves company. The isolation is temporarily suspended.

    The problem with dominant emotional bodies besides imbalance is they create "noise" in discussions where the mental body is where the action is. The mental body is largely cool and dispassioned. "Did you call me an asshole?" (Yawn) That is where actual words are used. Where the insults are not spoken, not intended or imagined the mental body would not even take notice of them. They are not part of data accumulation. The mental body seeks to build, connect and just ride the air currents of the higher mind. In a forum where the focus is a discussion and exchange of ideas, we are best served by bringing our mental body to the table. Bringing the emotional body is like bringing a child to a dinner party. It might behave, it might get bored and fall asleep or.............. Nuf said?

    To close this post let me clarify something. I only discussed the problem of the emotional body and specifically the pain body part of it. The child metaphor was meant to broaden the image somewhat. A healthy and balanced emotional body is a joy to experience. The pulses of energy that radiate from such a person are a delight and can lift a border line depressed person into a better place. Still, feelings are for feeling and not discussing. The wonderful feeling is to be experienced. A few words of how wonderful, nice, good someone feels would suffice. Further discussion would not really work. That's why there is poetry and why so few understand it.

    With regards to the mental body, I am not lauding it, but simply mentioning it as the best energetic body to bring to a discussion of ideas and concepts. Concepts and ideas translate fairly well into language. Language was invented just for that purpose..........mainly.
    In an above post of mine from another thread I mentioned how the descriptions of off planet races generally show different subtle body profiles. The scientists types, not unlike our own, can perform all kinds of painful/invasive procedures and are quite undisturbed or moved by ones discomfort, however extreme. This is a mental body predominance, the empathy that is a function of the emotional body is absent.
    The reptilian profile is complicated, probably because it is actually more basic. Somewhat of a paradox.
    Then you have what are considered the more advanced races and there we find emotional and mental bodies in harmony. Great intellect coupled with deep empathy. This combination leads to a form of wisdom. Part of having the mental and emotional bodies in harmony is it allows the properties of the higher frequency spiritual body and then causal body to be part of the greater psychological make up. This would be a form of us before "a fall". This is not meant in a religious sense, but our many planetary histories all make mention of one. Golden ages existed before "the fall". This post is an attempt to address problems we as a society need to address to access higher functioning aspects of ourselves. I do it for a better dialogue and understanding of ourselves and each other. Our friends and family need us to be our best. We deserve it and so do they. So does society and the planet. So does the galaxy. We are part of a greater whole and all of the parts need to function well. Optimally if possible. To know thyself is a start.

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