Breaking news: Bill Cooper says that financial collapse is imminent !

[Operator]

How is that possible ... Bill Cooper is dead for more than 10 years !?!

I somehow got hold of a link (forgot where and don't have the link anymore after the download) to the Babylon Mysteries Tapes (as mp3) and started listening.

There are 38 recordings (radio shows) 5 nights per week.
In these shows Bill Cooper is sometimes bragging about being so accurate ... and in a way he was very close indeed to a lot of things.
But he is also talking about securing your financial assets because a financial collapse is imminent. It really sounds like e.g. Gerald Celente and the likes
as if it could be today.

Although he is talking about dates he never mentions the year. So I was wondering in what year those recordings were taken.
Then I got unexpected help. In one show he mentions the WTC bombing and also the Waco Massacre.
So bingo, it must February 1993! This means it was almost exactly 20 years ago!

So it got me thinking, it clearly didn't happen then, so are we really sure it's going to happen now?
After all it has been declared many times at least since 2008.

From 2008 till now is 4 years ... that's already another 20% of the whole period since Bill Cooper announced it.

I think there is a cycle they try it time and time again. Could it be getting worse each cycle so they might succeed this time?
Who knows, but the Bill Cooper announcement convinced me that it is not certain at all ...

[Operator]

ahh, found the link again:

http://archive.org/details/WilliamCo...omariainvictus

Apparently the right title was: Mystery Babylon Series

I was also mistaken with something else there were only 20 shows.

I downloaded the 412.3 MB zip file .... Well worth a listen.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Operator (here)
So it got me thinking, it clearly didn't happen then, so are we really sure it's going to happen now?

These events are not one shot events. The build up of fear is part of the dance.

[Operator]

Posted by Paul (here)
These events are not one shot events. The build up of fear is part of the dance.

I know but this example was too good to demonstrate that even a thorough and seasoned researcher is no
guarantee for the future. Most of us are old enough to have live through that previous cycle time and will still
remember how their lives evolved like then.

It seems the boogeymen are still able to crawl out of their pit ... but the pit, for sure, is getting deeper and deeper.

[Hervé]

Remember Pete Peterson who was told that all hell would break loose in Y2K and built himself and family a defensible property in some mountains?

It was supposed to happen then too.

One thing is certain about these power usurpers is that they are very persistent in making things happen according to their "plan" -- despite setbacks -- as seen with their implementation of WW I, the "League of nations" and the creation of the State of Israel. The blue print was all set to happen post WW I but couldn't really be implemented before WW II took place and the "rogue" sovereign nations got broken and broke and brought into the globalists' fold.

Accordingly, a "cycle" of implememtation could be deduced from the activities they focus on to bring this planet's populations to their knees.

The last roadblock on their way are the US and their "Second Amendment" to be done and over with... but without a civil war... that would wake up the rest of the world and would give it "bad" ideas and a "bad" example.

Then, what happened to the Soviets could be reinstated for the US (from http://www.henrymakow.com/):

Russians Learned "Gun Control" Lesson

January 10, 2013

"Moscow fell to the Bolsheviks not from a lack of weapons to defend it, but from the lying guile of the Reds."

Russian warns Americans not to fall for "you can trust us" trick.

"Do not be fooled by a belief that progressives, leftists hate guns. Oh, no, they do not. What they hate is guns in the hands of those who are not marching in lock step to their ideology."

The Illuminati Jews and Freemasons who run the USA and Europe are cut from the same cloth as the Russian Bolsheviks who committed unspeakable atrocities . They are behind the recent theatre and school massacres which are designed as a pretext to disarm Americans. Even as their paid political and media mouthpieces demand gun control, DHS is stocking up with millions of rounds of lethal ammunition. Historically, gun confiscation is followed by genocide, according to this one-hour documentary.

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn, "The Gulag Archipelago" (1973)

by Stanislav Mishin
"Russian says: Americans Never Give Up Your Guns," abridged)
(Pravda.ru)

These days, there are few things to admire about the socialist, bankrupt and culturally degenerating USA, but at least so far, one thing remains: the right to bear arms and use deadly force to defend one's self and possessions.

This will probably come as a total shock to most of my Western readers, but at one point, Russia was one of the most heavily armed societies on earth. This well armed population was what allowed the various White factions to rise up, no matter how disorganized politically and militarily they were in 1918 and wage a savage civil war against the Reds.

It should be noted that many of these armies were armed peasants, villagers, farmers and merchants, protecting their own. If it had not been for Washington's [i.e. Illuminati Jewish bankers] clandestine support of and for the Reds, history would have gone quite differently.

Moscow fell, for example, not from a lack of weapons to defend it, but from the lying guile of the Reds. Ten thousand Reds took Moscow and were opposed only by some few hundreds of officer cadets and their instructors.

Even then the battle was fierce and losses high. However, in the city alone, at that time, lived over 30,000 military officers (both active and retired), all with their own issued weapons and ammunition, plus tens of thousands of other citizens who were armed.

The Soviets promised to leave them all alone if they did not intervene. They did not and for that were asked afterwards to come register themselves and their weapons: where they were promptly shot.

Of course being savages, murderers and liars does not mean being stupid and the Reds learned from their Civil War experience. One of the first things they did was to disarm the population.

From that point, mass repression, mass arrests, mass deportations, mass murder, mass starvation were all a safe game for the powers that were. The worst they had to fear was a pitchfork in the guts or a knife in the back or the occasional hunting rifle. Not much for soldiers.

To this day, with the Soviet Union now dead 21 years, with a whole generation born and raised to adulthood without the USSR, we are still denied our basic and traditional rights to self defense.

Why? We are told that everyone would just start shooting each other and crime would be everywhere....but criminals are still armed and still murdering and too often, especially in the far regions, those criminals wear the uniforms of the police. The fact that everyone would start shooting is also laughable when statistics are examined.

CONCLUSION

No it is about power and a total power over the people. There is a lot of desire to bad mouth the Tsar, particularly by the Communists, who claim he was a tyrant, and yet under him we were armed and under the progressives disarmed.

Do not be fooled by a belief that progressives, leftists hate guns. Oh, no, they do not. What they hate is guns in the hands of those who are not marching in lock step to their ideology. They hate guns in the hands of those who think for themselves and do not obey without question. They hate guns in those whom they have slated for a barrel to the back of the ear.

So, do not fall for the false promises and do not extinguish the light that is left to allow humanity a measure of self respect.


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Thanks to John Dinardo for sending the article from Pravda.

So, Doug Hagmann's prognosis of "your guns for food" seems the likely scenario...

[RMorgan]

Hey mate,

Imminent...Imminent...

The funny thing is that, whenever I hear this word, I know nothing will happen anytime soon...

I´m convinced that, when the sh*t hits the fan really hard, no one would have predicted it. It will take us all by surprise.

When dealing with economical issue, nothing is quite predictable. There are many variables involved; New variables appear every day, literally.

Sure, this system will collapse eventually, but there are many tools that can be used to postpone its ending...and they´re using all of them and creating new ones.

Raf.

[araucaria]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey mate,

Imminent...Imminent...

The funny thing is that, whenever I hear this word, I know nothing will happen anytime soon...

I´m convinced that, when the sh*t hits the fan really hard, no one would have predicted it. It will take us all by surprise.

When dealing with economical issue, nothing is quite predictable. There are many variables involved; New variables appear every day, literally.

Sure, this system will collapse eventually, but there are many tools that can be used to postpone its ending...and they´re using all of them and creating new ones.

Raf.

We are being rushed at every step: don't read the small print, just sign now.

Not only is nothing necessarily imminent, the sh*t doesn't have to hit the fan at all if we house-train ourselves and remember to switch off the fan.

[Operator]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Imminent...Imminent...

The funny thing is that, whenever I hear this word, I know nothing will happen anytime soon...

That's why I deliberately used it in the title of the thread. Coming from Bill Cooper it is evidently impossible.

And that word is still used very often by very credible people nowadays.

[Operator]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
So, Doug Hagmann's prognosis of "your guns for food" seems the likely scenario...

Yes possibly, or one of the other suggestions by John Waterman like not being able to renew your driving license or obtain
a passport etc. if you did not turn in your guns yet.

[13th Warrior]

One thing is certain about these power usurpers is that they are very persistent in making things happen according to their "plan" -- despite setbacks

Indeed; it would appear though, that their patience has started to wear thin....

[Lazlo]

The problem with prognostications of immanent doom is that they don't consider two key elements in the equation. Intertia and the self preservation instinct.

The "global economy" is a lumbering beast in it's on right. It doesn't turn on a dime nor does the light switch merely flip to the off position. Even TPTB need a working electrical grid, transportation, production, and distribution systems.

This leads naturally to point two. Sure, the Chinese could dump their US Treasury bonds, but that is cutting off your nose to spite your own face. These people aren't dumb. Can you really imagine a senior party meeting in which the conversation goes: "We will crash the American economy, and it will have no impact on our own industries and no repercussions among hundreds of millions of our citizens who would be without jobs because there is no one left to sell our goods to."

There certainly can be depressions and massive impacts to markets, but the concept of an all out economic armageddon is overblown. Just like the US and USSR didn't unleash a nuclear holocaust because of Mutually Assured Destruction. Proxy wars and lots of bluster, but no mushroom clouds.