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    We all are. The gradients you mentioned earlier.

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    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    Their mind is a very predicatable artifact. That is where our power in circumnavigating them should lie at.
    You have said this before and even offered some evidence of it. (overly defensive when pointed out, corrupting etc..)

    I think (at least for me) it would be benificial if you could expand on this point a bit (maybe with examples, or ?). It seems to be an important part & helping to identify (internally) what actions / feelings / responses are indicitive of "their mind" corruption would be very helpful for those of us in the early stages of this work.

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    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...sonment-Part-1

    This post covers some of the same topic. (If you missed it before. I did!) Just saw it while searching for another thread...

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    Quote Posted by CdnSirian (here)
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...sonment-Part-1

    This post covers some of the same topic. (If you missed it before. I did!) Just saw it while searching for another thread...
    Hey CdnSirian, thanks for linking to the above post/thread (started by Lisab).

    I had not come accross it previously, which I'm slightly annoyed about after having just read the post in its entirety.

    ... some good stuff in there as far as I'm concerned.

    IMO it provides a nice bit of variation on the concepts we've been discussing/exploring here on this thread (same stuff essentially - just using some slightly different language and terminology).

    I also found it innteresting that this post/thread got NO replies whatsoever, although I guess that's somewhat indicatvie of the fact that this kind of material tends to make a lot of people feel "uncomfortable".

    Nevertheless, I think this post - which is basically just a cut/past of a piece written by Sonia Barrett - deserves more than just a link.

    So, here's a re-post of the full piece/article:

    Quote A message from Sonia Barrett

    Government, Religion & Education: The Keepers of The Matrix
    Reality - a result of the vibration of collective and individual consciousness

    It is evident that there is a collective concept or interpretation of reality that is shared by many. (To even use the word many is speculative because it is not understood quantitatively who is experiencing what. It is simply a general assumption that the world and reality can even be quantitatively verified.) Reality loosely defined; is taking place in a field of frequencies supporting particular optical, audio and textural patterns. These are patterns that everyone around us appears to respond to. These patterns are specific to our five base senses. The system also supports a network of human emotions according to the protocols of this reality. Although our sensory capability exceeds five senses these five senses establish a centralised point of connection for interplay. So in essence there is a general operating program in place for the manner in which we function as human beings (reference to humans based on the current perception of reality) and how we will evolve collectively within this hologram. The system is structured to support collective evolution. Individualised progression is more of an override to the system.

    Within the hologram are program's supporting order and control. Such program's are run through familiar systems of government, religion and education. Despite the seeming uniqueness in our lives unless one is removed from the general dependency encouraged by these systems then one is subject to the protocols in place for. The collective experience. Reality is such a cleverly functioning experience that one can spend much time chasing after self-awareness yet remain caught in just another one of the many system designed awareness matrix. In examining the governmental system in the region one may reside the dependency of people on government as their protector is a familiar tale worldwide. Conditions are created in order to ensure the need of government. Self-examination might also bring to surface subtle degrees of that program. Where did much of this kind of belief system emerge from? This is not to say that we should disband the idea of government but we should examine the manner in which we have surrendered personal charge over our own lives. An observation of the immediate reality around us would confirm that most people are not ready to be responsible for themselves; therefore government is essential.

    When people have been programmed to be compliant the decision making process in their lives are easily transferred to the overseers. Humanity has been trained to take orders this includes even those that lead. This is the purpose of modern day education. It is indeed true that education was not always this way but even then the programming existed side by side in subtle ways. A trail of the execution of such programs can be seen in the stories of space visitors and in mythical stories of gods and supernatural forces impressing humanity with belief systems of inferiority and fear. In essence the human race ( as currently experienced) has been disconnected from the truth if its potentials for such a long time that even those who write and speak about the atrocities of government, education and religion are unable to see their own imprisonment in an even greater deception.

    One may acknowledge that we have been deceived and in the same breath defend limiting religious and spiritual beliefs. Such beings remain oblivious to their own programs. Should their beliefs be examined perhaps the holes in these beliefs would be made evident yet they may continue to remain committed to such concepts. Belief systems are powerfully strong as it is the method by which the technology of the body operates. The human experience is based on automatic programs which in translation are programmed beliefs. This has been a programmed experience engineered in such a way that has provided an assortment of concepts from which we extract our choices. This act of choosing personalises our decision and further authorises a sense of freedom which ultimately is a deceptive picture of freedom. This becomes our reference point of being free while all along there is very little authentic choice. This same game is played by government, religion and education.

    The concept of going within has been infiltrated in so many ways that the simplicity of engaging in such a natural experience now requires third parties to create this connection for us. This is much like the days of dialling the long distance operator to establish connection. It is interesting note that zero (0) is the number of choice in dialling the operator! How interesting is that! Connecting with the operator links us with a voice somewhere out there. Zero point (0.) that's the space we aim for in meditation. 0. is the no spin zone or immeasurable spin where time is seemingly nonexistent. The fluctuation between a wave and a particle is then evident. This is a powerful space of creating. Such an occurrence expresses the lowest energy state of a particle field also known as its ground field state. In referencing the electromagnetic spectrum we can view zero point (0.) as the apex. All fields descend from this space and each frequency progressively enfolds one in the other on the way up; radio wave, infrared, invisible light, ultraviolet light, x-ray, Gamma Ray and so on as the acceleration of the spin ( the frequency) increases.

    Within us is the fabric of creation. When we close our eyes a magnificent moment occurs, there is nothing and we are then free to imagine a different version of reality be it qualified as real or unreal. Each time that we close our eyes we experience the canvas upon which our imagination paints. Our conditioning for survival is fed by the systems in place diverting us to other structured concepts and belief. Our base survival program is for food, clothes and shelter however this has gradually progressed to a different level of survival. They would become barometers for identity and classification. Our obsession with personal beauty, the kinds of clothes we wear, both the location and kind of dwelling we occupy has now thrown a smokescreen over the core survival program. The game in reference to this core program is so variegated that we find ourselves either running from being a part of these social classifications or running towards it. Very seldom do we stand on a middle ground.

    Everything is either good or bad for us. We are either committed to being spiritually and financially impoverished as this seems to be a qualifying ideal for spiritual humility; which is yet another program. Alongside such misconceptions are spiritual leaders spreading exaggerated notions about financial abundance while corporatising spirituality. Spirituality is about the free flow of current in all areas of one's life as essential as one's journey. Currency aka money should not be associated with guilt or deprivation in attaining enlightenment. This is a program which suppresses our ownership of being creators. Poverty or lack supports a belief system of non-equality to those who seem to possess the skill or the art of creative flow. This is a program rooted in the system's design allowing the polarised experience of being on either side of the coin. However one may switch sides not simply through attending hundreds of abundance workshops but by understanding that the core belief/program/imprint must be changed followed by actual change.

    Although financial success may have already been achieved,if one hordes money or has fear of spending it or if one is simply content with seeing the numbers in one's account or has fear of ever returning to an experience of lack these are all signs that those core programs still exist. If your life hinges on the credit bureaus and the life of your 401k then you have placed yourself as creator on hold in the bigger picture. What you have done is commit the flow of your life to the finite conditions of the matrix program. Remember that the system is automated. This does not mean that we should not take care of our credit and 401k but more importantly understand that you are playing a game, that 's what the credit bureau is, that's why your 401k is just like the stock market. You must play life for the fun of it....this is a shocking thought to some but that is the magic of it all. We must play life for fun because it is not this finite experience that our minds are so locked into believing or as the system would have us believe. We must examine our attitude and thought process in the way in which we experience money. This money program seems to be one of the most challenging experiences for many. Friends and family are toe apart by this psychological experience called money.

    This polarised process of being rich or poor, good or bad are cousins to each other. Combinations are mixed and matched like a potion resulting in the manner in which we pursue our survival cures. How we establish food, clothes and shelter then range from simple to complex especially when the emotions of power and control are thrown in the mix. One is then affected by the overseeing forces influencing his or her survival strategies. This involves government, corporations, education and spiritual or religious practices. The life force or blood for such systems is the fuel of power and control. This is not a good or bad thing for without individuals holding such programs there would be no leaders in a reality where one's journey may be about experiencing submission and in being controlled. What do you choose to experience, what have you been experiencing? Cursing the rich only serves to uphold your programs. Money has been made the enemy upheld by a very condratictory mindset. We expect to receive yet we curse the energy. The governing forces of the collective experience on the planet understand our schizophrenic relationship with money and so we are pupated by pitting the poor against the wealthy and. The wealthy against the poor. Two distinct classes divided yet they are both robots and pawns in the game. This creates such distractions that we seem to be permanently cast in the roles of victim and victimiser, rich and poor which most often becomes generational.

    We focus on suggested beliefs about the economy; is it a good economy or bad economy. The uncertainty of our jobs are no longer secure....but we're they ever? Perhaps this was all in your head, if your name does not appear on your employer's bank account then security was always an illusion. If you run a business there is always an opportunity to alter it or close it or convert it to something you have always wanted to try your mind at. To buy into the economy is to do just that....buy into you; you purchase the idea with emotional dollars and this begins to confirm the state of the economy in your reality. We further find others to support just how bad it is. The fact is that there are people with an overabundance of money who are ready to secure your services whatever that may be but if the energy you project is of the economy being bad therefore no one is buying, then the universe must comply with your wishes. You shall surely receive potential customers who complain that they would love to have your service if only they had the money but that the economy is bad. Instead establish a belief that expects those able to afford your services show up.

    The awareness that we create our reality is replaced by these characters we play and the scripts we read from. In the meanwhile the wheel of the greater matrix continues to turn and churn out programs for the unsuspecting masses who will live and die according to these programs. We hear of brain plasticity:
    "Brain plasticity refers to the capacity of the nervous system to change its structure and, it's function over a lifetime, in reaction to environmental diversity. Although this term is now commonly used in psychology and neuroscience, it is not easily defined and is used to refer to changes at many levels in in the nervous system ranging from molecular events, such as changes in gene expression, to behaviour."

    To take a true examination of one's life is the key. Moving towards making the desired changes is the next greatest key. There is plasticity in our design therefore change is a plausible action. Change is not about blame, guilt or regret it is about experiencing greater levels do consciousness. Commit to your own evolution, it is the gateway beyond an automated life.
    (Part 2 to come)
    Thanks again for sharing this with us CdnSirian, much appreciated.
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    Their mind is a very predicatable artifact. That is where our power in circumnavigating them should lie at.
    You have said this before and even offered some evidence of it. (overly defensive when pointed out, corrupting etc..)

    I think (at least for me) it would be benificial if you could expand on this point a bit (maybe with examples, or ?). It seems to be an important part & helping to identify (internally) what actions / feelings / responses are indicitive of "their mind" corruption would be very helpful for those of us in the early stages of this work.

    Thanks!
    Stepping in until 9eagle 9 answers for herself from a different perspective...

    One thing one can start with is the "predictability" of one's reactions. In some philosophy, it's call "automaticity" or an automatic reaction -- always the same -- to different actual circumstances. An outward example would be that, whatever one could find sensible to say regarding the "Holocaust," one is immediately tagged as an "antisemite" (check "Lord Sidious" threads). No true valid discussion or debate possible from then on. It's an automatic, computer generated, form answer to all enquiries or all that's ailing one. There is no inspection of the actual circumstances, just a blurting out of the "party line," whether one's own or from others.

    In other words there is this "identical" identity to these manifestations which are indicative of unavailable thinking abilities or real observation or inspection of the situation in its context. One type of example one is constantly faced with, on this forum for example, is that one ends up wondering if some posters actually read the post they are supposedly responding to. If so, then have they understood what was written? In most cases it's the "their" mind which overlaid a picture of what they "thought" (with the "their" mind) was posted and meant to signify as matching the content of the "their" mind. The ones in their "right" mind tend to think there is a debate going on whereas, in actuality there is none... just a maddening situation of boxing with shadows because there is no one on the other side to communicate with in the first place. Just a computer generated automatic answer. And I have witnessed people getting mad at their computer for not "understanding" the programs they themselves wrote... back in the days of Fortran language punched into cards... because the results spewed out by the computer was different from what they expected or just looping endlessly because they forgot a coma.

    Hopefully, the above, if not speaking to you, will speak to someone reading it and help that individual understand the concepts being tackled in this thread.
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    That's an awesome response Amzer-zo.

    Along with denying said what they said or did what they did. Even though what they did is evidenced in clear text. Because its written from emotionally based reactive 'thinking' they have no recall of what they said, accused, or presented even when you put it right under their nose. They respond again and again from an emotional place.

    They can't differentiate the two.

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    Their mind is a very predicatable artifact. That is where our power in circumnavigating them should lie at.
    You have said this before and even offered some evidence of it. (overly defensive when pointed out, corrupting etc..)

    I think (at least for me) it would be benificial if you could expand on this point a bit (maybe with examples, or ?). It seems to be an important part & helping to identify (internally) what actions / feelings / responses are indicitive of "their mind" corruption would be very helpful for those of us in the early stages of this work.

    Thanks!
    Stepping in until 9eagle 9 answers for herself from a different perspective...

    One thing one can start with is the "predictability" of one's reactions. In some philosophy, it's call "automaticity" or an automatic reaction -- always the same -- to different actual circumstances. An outward example would be that, whatever one could find sensible to say regarding the "Holocaust," one is immediately tagged as an "antisemite" (check "Lord Sidious" threads). No true valid discussion or debate possible from then on. It's an automatic, computer generated, form answer to all enquiries or all that's ailing one. There is no inspection of the actual circumstances, just a blurting out of the "party line," whether one's own or from others.

    In other words there is this "identical" identity to these manifestations which are indicative of unavailable thinking abilities or real observation or inspection of the situation in its context. One type of example one is constantly faced with, on this forum for example, is that one ends up wondering if some posters actually read the post they are supposedly responding to. If so, then have they understood what was written? In most cases it's the "their" mind which overlaid a picture of what they "thought" (with the "their" mind) was posted and meant to signify as matching the content of the "their" mind. The ones in their "right" mind tend to think there is a debate going on whereas, in actuality there is none... just a maddening situation of boxing with shadows because there is no one on the other side to communicate with in the first place. Just a computer generated automatic answer. And I have witnessed people getting mad at their computer for not "understanding" the programs they themselves wrote... back in the days of Fortran language punched into cards... because the results spewed out by the computer was different from what they expected or just looping endlessly because they forgot a coma.

    Hopefully, the above, if not speaking to you, will speak to someone reading it and help that individual understand the concepts being tackled in this thread.
    I've recognized this in myself, though never with this topic in mind.

    I've found myself responding to something then when my response falls apart I go back and re-read what I "thought" I had read only to find that I had projected something onto the poster and not even absorbed what they were trying to say, I often refer to this as "snap judgment" as it seems to instantly categorize and judge someone based on some internally held definition stemming from,, well I guess "their mind" mentality. I've seen this happen "in person" too though it's very difficult to catch when "you" are the one doing it as everything seems to make sense and there is a touch of that emotional flare that really sets the hook.

    Very interesting.

    To simplify I would refer to this as (to steal my term I suppose) "snap judgment" and some of the clues would be that flare of emotion (indignation, anger, self righteousness etc..) & instantly thinking/"knowing" you are in some way superior (through knowledge, ethical / moral position or other) to the other party (at least this has been my experience).


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    That's an awesome response Amzer-zo.

    Along with denying said what they said or did what they did. Even though what they did is evidenced in clear text. Because its written from emotionally based reactive 'thinking' they have no recall of what they said, accused, or presented even when you put it right under their nose. They respond again and again from an emotional place.

    They can't differentiate the two.
    in this I read that they are responding from the Reptilian brain, ( as is described in Athene's theory of everything (first 15 min or so))

    it's more of a "reaction" so short term memory is almost non-exsistance, there is possibly a rush of adranaline &/or other hormones similar to when somone is defending themselfs from a physical attack (or defending a strongly held "belief") this can often lead to physical confrontation (espeicaly in men).

    surely there are more examples?
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    surely there are more examples?
    How do you think 'tptb' move their agenda along?

    911...I was with a group of people around a tv that morning. The reactions were all emotional...horror, anger, revenge, fear...lots of rah, rah USA. Result...the Patriot Act...to keep us "safe"...and war. I saw the same thing they did and said, 'well, there goes our freedoms'. Why? Because I wondered how in the world two planes could do that much damage to those buildings...enough to bring them down. It didn't make sense. And then to have building 7 come down when it wasn't even hit...that was just too unbelievable.

    Think about all the lone shooters...Giffords, Aurora and Sandy Hook for examples. Again people react emotionally and an agenda is moved forward...this time gun control. Now they have people on both sides of the issue...keeping us divided and our attention focused on that while they move on to something else.

    Problem, REACTION, Solution...without the automatic emotional reaction and calls for 'keep us safe', the cycle would be broken.

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    9/11 is a excellent example.

    When there is an actual problem, the best way to handle something is to go ..oh Problem, Think, Solution!

    Now its all Problem, reaction, Solution (based on emotions to sooth everyone) . Reactive mind, all it does is react. (9/11 )

    There was no problem, it was a created problem, everyone reacted to it, the solution was take away freedom. People did this to 'feel' safe . This is irrational, one is not safe without their freedom.

    Feeling safe in any environment is it's primary objective. If you don't make it feel safe (feed it) then we get a problem.

    9/11 occured 9 Months after Bush took office. It didn't take long to see what had been imposed on America, and that whole constructed monkey show was a means to make 'it', their mind safe again, in a country that was growing increasingly hostile towards the Bush Administration.

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    To simplify I would refer to this as (to steal my term I suppose) "snap judgment" and some of the clues would be that flare of emotion (indignation, anger, self righteousness etc..) & instantly thinking/"knowing" you are in some way superior (through knowledge, ethical / moral position or other) to the other party (at least this has been my experience).

    Yes snap judgement, its not really 'judgement' though, no one is accessing anything.

    You have your own experiences of this, trust them. A thought will eventually unravel itself out to an end or create another thought. Emotions never end because they are constantly fed, grudges are held, the drama makers no matter how much they resent 'the hostile' environment never want it to end. So they keep re-creating it. Re- Acting it out over and over again.

    Because emotions never end, you can keep restirring them. People get addicted to emotion. An any given day you will find somewhere someone has posted something emotionally evocative, they respond to you in emotional terms. They are not always hostile emotions but goo.

    When there is a problem an emotion is always the answer. Or the 'ideal' of an emotion. Of an 'ideal' of a situation that's emotionally inhabited.

    We are all one big happy family. Someone has to go in and inhabit that with a bunch of emotion, it will run dry after awhile because rationally speaking we are not one big happy family: I'm not related to anyone, I don't know you, there is war, conflict, pain, starvation in the world. Your emotional construct does not address suffering so not everyone in this family gets to be 'happy'. I have no idea if you are happy or not and based on how reactive you are to everything I would suggest that you are not happy.

    That too is building an inhabited construct. It will eventually disappoint them, run dry and another 'ideal' will be inhabited that makes them feel good. " A ufo with kind et's will come baby us and fix everything for us"

    I'ts not real but ...don't disagree with it based on reality because they will show you in no uncertain terms how much of an unhappy family unit they are.

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    Based on their emotional woundedness they who refuse to address the 'their' mind will either irrationally attack reason, truth or wisdom. These things are not emotionally based so there's nothing to feed them. So a condition has to be made to feed them. If one doesn't respond or responds in a way appropriate to dealing with them (which is really like dealing with four year olds) then a emotion will be generated on YOUR behalf.

    You are mean, angry, cold, callous. But its not content with this because it knows its just a 'thought' not a real emotion or energy. So it does it again and again and again.

    Constant state of emotional validation. I'm 'right' to feel this way. Emotions have nothing to do with correct or incorrect. There are emotions that 'just are' and there are inappropriate emotional outbursts. They need people to validate their 'emotional outbursts'.

    Constantly telling you how you should feel. You should feel love, or brotherhood, or bliss, forgiveness. Or that we are all one big happy family.

    They seldom accept apologies though because that would 'end the drama'.

    Forgiveness isn't an emotion. Neither is laughter. Having been in new agey, spiritual circles, the only people that ever seemed to laugh were rational people. For as much as they claimed bliss or happiness you never seen the love monsters smiling. They were always stuck in some fraught emotional situation either their own or someone elses. Or they would approach you to impose some emotion on you because THEY needed the attention.

    "Here I'm going to put a lei around your neck and hug you because I love , your my sister."

    Or basically so you will return the sentiment. Which I never did. I can't place emotional values on people I don't know.

    I have a modicum of self respect, I don't just let strange people paw at me.

    Either avoid or bird-dog self determined people. If they can bring down a self determined person (they can't) it will show what a 'light' warrior they are and further validate their emotions. I defeated the enemy never realizing they are their own enemy.

    Intellect and intelligence is a no no. So is logic.

    Emotions and programs, yes. Logic and intelligence no.

    "Kindness and love are always the solution".

    One thing my current contract I'm working on has taught me. ..I am spoken to rudely, gruffly, impatiently by certain parties daily who NEVER fail to do the right thing. Which is the thing that I am asking them to do. Rude, yeah yeah yeah, whatever, hurry up, yeah I'll do it, okay you're getting on my nerves, goodnight.

    Never fail to do the 'right' thing.

    Conversely there's twice as many very nice people who kindly and sweetly refuse to do the right thing.

    Big lesson for me there that actually solidified this in my own mind.
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    For myself, I learned to be very careful of my "gut" reaction. We're told over and over that our "gut reaction" is usually the "right" (or accurate) take on a situation because it's immediate and not challenged or perverted by rationalization.

    I don't buy that anymore. In the early stages of our working on ourselves, our "gut" reaction is most probably our earliest programming, our enculturated default setting, not our pure setting as a spirit being. We've all been "enculturated" because we've all been raised in a culture of some kind. A family makes its own culture that includes some but not all of the larger culture. We all know how twisted families can be and how grudges and hatreds are passed from parents to children generation after generation. We also know how twisted we can become due to negative experiences we (some of us) may suffer as children in the hands of unaware or just downright nasty families.

    To find out who we really are as a person closer to our spirit being, we have to strip off that enculturation overlay - both that of our family and the larger culture - and that includes our "gut" reaction. Once we have done that, examined it, put ourselves back together again in a way that more closely aligns with our heart, and shifted our "gut reaction" to a higher octave, then maybe the "gut reaction" can be trusted.

    This is how it happened for me anyhow, and these are just other words to describe what 9eagle and others have already said here.
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    The word "resonates" scares the sh** out of me when people use it.
    Its as though--- if I feel it resonates with me, it is right without doubt--- a justification, sometimes, for rubbishing others points of view.
    Very few points of view are actually found to be 100% true.
    Any point of view is "my angle on it".

    The principal of navigation (triangulation" is a good safety measure in establishing a valid position.
    I like to find as much information as possible, especially conflicting and opposing --the truth can literally lie in the middle.
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    Resonance is usually wound or attachment resonance, tuning or vibing into a wound or an attachment.

    Has nothing to do with intuition or 'knowing'. If our emotional bodies attempt to take over duty of the mental body, god knows they will attempt to take over the psychic and intuitive centers.

    The Clairs ...clairaudience, clairsentience, atc. All have to do with clear senses not emotional ones.

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    The word "resonates" scares the sh** out of me when people use it.
    Its as though--- if I feel it resonates with me, it is right without doubt--- a justification, sometimes, for rubbishing others points of view.
    Very few points of view are actually found to be 100% true.
    Any point of view is "my angle on it".
    a friend of mine (who has a very interesting approach to this common "search" that we of this forum all seem in one way or another to be a part of) implored me to read a PDF covering messages from Above Top Secret's own version of Avalon's "charles/atticus/stephen" (sort of): DialogueWithHiddenHand-WesPenre http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...uminati_55.htm .

    I was 16 pages into the PDF ( PAGES!) when I texted him and mentioned that so far I had read 16 pages of failed predictions (this dialogue was from 2008) and some interesting theory about polarization (a lot of which apparently parallels the Law of One material) & he mentioned "well it's a logical fallacy to think that just because some things are wrong the whole message is wrong" which frankly, I have a hard time disagreeing with that statement.

    then he followed it up with "it really resonated with me"; for some reason I just couldn't get myself to finish it (I'm attempting to do so now).

    I completely agree greybeard, that statement seems like the goto excuse for convincing oneself (and others) that what you WANT to believe in is what SHOULD be believed in; regardless of any evidence to the contrary.



    Now I'm not absolutely going to discount this "hidden hand" material, I do agree that just because some failed predictions ( 16 pages of them so far......) happen to exist that all the material is crap.. but this brings up another question I almost started a thread on... how patient do you have to be with material like this, how much do you forgive?

    anyway, aside from the interesting concept of polarization it's not "resonating" with me; /sarcasm though I'm sure that's because I'm just not ascended enough or something /sarcasm


    SO, to bring this back on topic:

    I suppose another (possible?) sign of "their mind mentality" is reasonless (with out reason) belief in something due to a "feeling" (how else would you describe something "resonating" with you?) or just because it "sounds right".

    This is worrisome because I often act on what I've heard described as "intuition" based on similar,,, I guess I'd call them "feelings?" though perhaps I'm miss-labeling this and I should recognize it as "knowing". Either way it's too close for comfort & easy to confuse in my mind.
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    The word "resonates" scares the sh** out of me when people use it.

    [...]Chris
    In different words, it's what I describe as "matching the content of the "their" mind."

    There is sort of a matching of vibrations, frequency, shape, appearance, circumstances, wordings, etc...

    Where it gets really weird is that an elephant can be made to match a flee in that "their/reactive" mind processing just because there is a very vague resemblance in their silhouette. That's what's described as A=A=A in Dianetics... it's ALL the same thing with no possibility of discernment, for it is being totally irrational.

    It's like trying to reason with someone screaming in terror at the sight of a cute little mouse... never been successful with that one... only when acknowledging there is a real terror being expressed and with that as a start, keeping digging into the emotional charge until it is released... most often due to being eaten alive by rats and mice in some cellar or dungeon's cell in some distant past... and "they" say "time is the healer"... not true for that "their/reactive" mind.
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    I use the word 'resonate' often as meaning 'I agree', and I do see now how unfruitful it is really only to investigate the routes you have already traveled.
    Perhaps it is better to look into things that 'grate against' you, things that don't initially 'grab' you in order to widen your perspective. That way you can really learn something new or at least dismiss something without coming from a place of ignorance. I guess the 'resonant' kind of self sabotage can keep you stuck in your own back yard.

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    There is a word scotoma which sums it up.
    Once a person has a mind set it is sometimes literally impossible for them to "see" valid contrary information--even if their life depended on it.
    The flat earth society---The world is round--oh yeah!!! "Everybody" know the world is flat
    The sun goes round the earth---people got killed for suggesting that the earth actually goes round the Sun.

    So be easy on people who do not get it--laughing. They might be right--laughing even more.

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    Well their certainly laughing to the bank now....

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    res·o·nate
    /ˈrezəˌnāt/
    Verb

    Produce or be filled with a deep, full, reverberating sound.
    Evoke or suggest images, memories, and emotions.

    Synonyms
    resound - reverberate - sound - echo

    To evoke a feeling of shared emotion or belief:

    To correspond closely or harmoniously

    to remind somebody of something; to be similar to what somebody thinks or believes

    It's always interesting when something "resonates". Yet it's good to examine this. Does it resonate with the right mind?

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