A very high-resolution UFO photo

[witchy1]

Looks like those German ones from the war. Plenty of photos on the net. These from http://www.ufocasebook.com/naziufos.html
Try here: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/index.html

There are some better ones...Ill go looking

[witchy1]

clearly fake - sorry

[bennycog]

just one photograph taken Bill?
Since it looks so clear. I would imagine if it was real it would have been sitting in position for a decent amount of time to take the picture.. So just wondering why one photo was taken, unless there is more?
if it was real i would be inclined to think, like most on here that it would be a shadow government vehicle..

Hey witchy i have seen them craft above in a documentry that i saw a few years ago about a ufo graveyard but the ufo's were prototypes done throughout the years.. I forget the what the doco was called and i have searched through the net trying to find it many times but i cannot get it up again.. I really wished i had of saved it somehow..
I have said many times i think that 90 percent to 95 percent or more of unidentified craft seen in the sky is involved in black projects or joint ventures with those extra dimensionals..

[Cidersomerset]

The problems we have is we think the Germans had a few prototypes at the end of
the war, technology either channelled to them or given by direct sources by ET's or
some other entities.If they had any more than that, they would have turned the
tide of the war.They go into this in this Russian documentry.

Third Reich - Operation UFO (Nazi Base In Antarctica) Complete Documentary

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=MwUpPwyyvLw

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...te-Documentary

If the Nazis did manage to set up a base in Ant Arctica which pre war info suggests,
and they did have links to sympathetic regimes in South america, its possible they
have built a secret operartion that thru the connections with the NAZI who
infultrated the US thru operation paper clip have developed into part of the 'Black
government'. Eisenhowers meeting with ET's , could have been the same group
helping the Nazi and an alliance formed ,which leads to the infiltration of the US
Government/Corporate state fachism.Which researchers like Joseph Farrel, Jim
Marrs suggest and Richard Dolan says maybe the origins of the alternate
human/alien space fleet /Moon/mars civilisation,In which case there technology is
way beyond what we see now.It may not be exactly as I said ,but you get the
picture. So most of the tech we see could be anglo ET /terrestial or just developed
human.Or some other scenario within this theme.


Alternately they could be ET's like the Palaidians who have been monitoring us for
thousands of years with their own agendas and we have had contact with them
from time to time. There are thousands of these cases thru out history , to many to
be mass illusions imo. The Tall whites in New Mexico are a fascinating group, and if
Charles Hall is making it all up he's got a good immaginion, Travis Walton and
many others.It could be that a lot of these ET's are from the secret space
programme. Or interdimetional entities linked to the Archons ( greys ) there are
many theories and scenarios as you know but the recordings of seeing disc shaped
UFO's go way back into history.

Of course hoaxing is possible with models, photo shop and CGI buts thats relatively
new and has obviously damaged the credibilty of the field,because the more
cameras have become availble to the public to record these events, fabrication
technology has advanced as well.So we are still far from the diffinitive answer to
whether the multi craft spotted all over the world are real or imagination but the
fact scientists the Vatican and many others are talking about our 'space brothers'
leads me to think I may find out in my lifetime which will be cool..LOL..unless
Arthur C Clarke was right in his book 'To Serve Man' and we are a tasty morsal
being farmed for DNA parts !!

We could speculate all day, but I'm sure we are not and have never been
alone ..LOL..Steve...



17 Billion earth size planets....


http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news...h_like_planets

[Atlas]

Another saucer of the same kind:

[The Castellan]

Posted by bogeyman (here)
I would get the photo analyzed by a photographic expert, there are techniques which can determine the size and possibly authenticity of the photograph. It seems to me, initial view, that there is something wrong with the picture.

And that is?

[Arak]

My first impression was that this is fake. Most like due the the fact that there is a) no motion blur (which could be explained if UFO would have been hovering), b) there is something wrong with the focus area (too sharp to be behind the trees, too small to be closer than trees), c) image has artefacts around the ufo (which could be becouse of heavy JPEG compression ofc, would need to see the original or better scan to judge better). And if this image is pre-cgi era I would say that this is done by throwing this UFO in the air and snapping then the picture.

[Sunny-side-up]

Nice photo Bill

On subject of UFO's/craft who fly's English Rugby Ball shaped (like a blimp) craft, craft that have bright-malty-clouded-surface (Not individual Lights), it looks like the pulsating skin of a cuttlefish!

[Roisin]

In 2005, myself and 3 others saw a huge silver metallic triangle ufo in broad daylight silently horvering over the shoreline of Lake Erie. And if we had taken a photo of it, it would have turned out like the photo that Bill is showing here in this thread because we were seeing it as clearly as the UFO that is showing up in that pic. So for this reason, I DO think it's an authentic photo of a UFO... that and the fact that Bill trusts his source on this one that's it's authentic so that's important too.

[The Castellan]

Posted by Roisin (here)
In 2005, myself and 3 others saw a huge silver metallic triangle ufo in broad daylight silently horvering over the shoreline of Lake Erie. And if we had taken a photo of it, it would have turned out like the photo that Bill is showing here in this thread because we were seeing it as clearly as the UFO is showing up in that pic. So for this reason, I DO think it's an authentic photo of a UFO... that and the fact that Bill trusts his source on this one that's it's authentic so that's important too.

yea, it's like the guys in the ships are saying, "Yo, here I am, get our your cameras!"

[Roisin]

The triangle we saw was much bigger and further away than the UFO that's seen in that photo... and it was hovering at a slightly higher altitude but low enough to see the top of it too.

This was before the days when all cellphones had cams in them like it is today but it was close enough and clear enough.. like the UFO in that photo, it would have shown up the same way had a pic been taken of it.

[Atlas]

I found it ! While looking for similar photos, I found this one allegedly taken in 1996 in Florida:


http://www.ufoevidence.org/photograp...t/photo154.htm

And I noticed one interesting thing: the tree in Bill's photo is the exact same one:



What are your thoughts

[Hervé]

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[Roisin]

Though it says on that site that it was taken in Florida, how do we know that maybe that was typed out in error where it should have stated Peru instead.... where it could be the same UFO only at a different angle than the UFO in the photo that Bill is showing that was captured by his friend?

I'm guessing that Bill's friend must have taken a few photos of that UFO at that location.

[Atlas]

Posted by Roisin (here)
I'm guessing that Bill's friend must have taken a few photos of that UFO at that location.

Good guess Roisin, there are indeed more photos:

[Hervé]

The sequence, some resized, some mirrored:

[Atlas]

That is correct Amzer Zo.

The material is from Mike Hawkins (www.ufovideo.net),



His testimony in the video below:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=T-Y0PutVVSY

[Bill Ryan]

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Wow! Hats off to buares, indeed. I got to be impressed (and not for the first time by him, at all).

To repeat what I was told (first-hand, in Jan 2013, by a friend in California, when he visited Ecuador) -- the photo he gave me was (he said) taken personally by a friend of HIS in Peru near the Pan-American highway. He had a high-quality print, and I made the digital scan myself.

I've written to him just now to ask him what may have happened here...

[Bill Ryan]

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Well, we have a bit of a mystery here. My friend has forwarded the 2006 correspondence from HIS friend — copied below with names and addresses redacted — who had said he'd taken the photo. He added that his friend had sent the original photo to Art Bell, but it had not been returned... the print he'd retained (and which was later scanned) was a copy.

The only answer I can think of is that somehow my friend had the photos confused. (There WAS another one, which looked to be a different craft, was pretty clear but not quite so dramatic, and which I did not post on this thread. I'll continue to clarify if I can... )

From: _________
To: ____
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 1:53 AM
Subject: RE: ufo

Hi,

The pictures were taken in January, 1960 in Peru near the Pan American Highway in the foothills of the Andes Mountains. The UFO was about a quarter of a mile away and it appeared to be as big as a shipping container but in a round form. The people in the area said they saw them on a regular basis and the had a Spanish name for them that meant ghost planes. We were more curious than scared but again they would take off when we moved towards them. They appeared to be just watching us. With maps I could probably find the area again but in 46+ years l would imagine that the area would look different because of development.

I hope everything is going great,
_________

Original Message:
From: ____
To: _________
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 8:45 PM
Subject: ufo

Hi - I know it's been a while for you on the ufo photos, but since I have put one on my desktop as background my kids are asking questions, like:

• Were you scared when taking these photos?
• How far away were you from the ufo?
• In other words, how big do you think it was?
• Was it Peru or was it Columbia or where along the Pan American highway was it?
• Was it true what I told them that the locals were used to seeing them?
• Could you find your way back there again?

[swoods_blue]

Let me jump in as a "recovering journalist", LOL. This thread illustrates that memory works in very funny ways and that sources are ALWAYS suspect.

Bill's testimony re: Peru was shared very shortly after he was given the photo and told its alleged location. I also have a lot of experience reading Bill's writing, and know his passion for getting details right. So I'm fairly sure he accurately re-reported what he heard.

And while I don't doubt Bill's sincerity or veracity at all, I have no knowledge at all about his friend ("Friend 1"). I know Bill trusts him, but we have no independent basis for evaluating that trust. We don't know if "Friend 1" accurately remembers the information he was told about the location of the photo, or if he was actually told the photo was taken in Peru. Maybe Peru came up in the conversation with the alleged photographer ("Friend of Friend 1") and Friend 1 conflated data points. Maybe Friend of Friend 1 wasn't actually the photographer, but Friend 1 thought he was. Perhaps Friend of Friend 1 lied about the provenance of the photo to Friend 1... And so on.

All we actually have to work with are: 1) A scan created by Bill of a print of a photograph (not the original photograph); 2) A hearsay story regarding the provenance of the photo; and 3) buares' excellent sleuthing which seriously calls the hearsay story into question.

Let's say we can ascertain that this is an unretouched photo, and further let's say that we actually pin down who took the photo, when and where. We STILL don't know what it's a photo of. Is that the classic "pie plate" fake? Is it an actual aircraft? If it's an aircraft, is it a model, a human prototype, a secret project, or an actual extraterrestrial craft?

That's why you have to analyze the photo, that's why you need primary sources, and even then, it's just a photo.

Most importantly, this is why unimpeachable "proof" is extremely hard to come by.