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    Default Re: Bruce Willis speaks against new gun laws, says movies not to blame for violence..!

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    Quote Bruce Willis speaks against new gun laws, says movies not to blame for violence..!
    Although i am against gun and ammo bans, the truth is
    that tv and movies do promote violence in our young
    children.

    I've played videogames since i was 3. Started with Commander Keen, Crystal Caves, Halloween Harry.... and as i aged Pitfall the Mayan Adventure and Mechwarrior 2. This quickly progressed as i aged to a LOVE of first person shooters, specifically WW2 shooters, such as Medal of Honor Allied Assault, then Call of Duty 1-3. These are pretty freaking violent, all involve/revolve around killing. Ontop of this i watch TV shows and Movies that "promote violence" such as Dexter, Supernatural, and the movies specifically highlighted such as Die Hard and others like it.

    I do not like fighting. I do not like war. When i get angry to the point where i know im going to get physical to get that out of my system, i take it out on objects that cannot be hurt (such as a brick wall, a metal pole, etc). Those occasions are very rare.


    Video Games, and Movies do not cause violence.



    Lack of proper parenting and care/teaching of children causes violence. Abusive households cause violence. Abusive children in schools that go unchecked causes violence. The drugs that are being pumped into people cause violence.


    But hey! Let's blame it on a movie!!! So people dont catch on to the real causes and do something abuot it, so we can impliment our police-state plans.... No wonder the elites are so confident in and openly laugh at us with every action they take.
    Agreed that the great majority of people that watch violent films can tell the difference between acting out and real.
    However space repetition does affect people and those who are on the borderline can get tipped over by violent films etc
    Some get addicted to gangster rap and other media violence, its not just films.

    Basically advertiser spend a fortune on a the minute clip that repeats regularly --- why?
    Because it influences people to buy.

    You need a gun to defend your wife and family, coming at you repeatedly, sells guns.
    Try to take the gun away sells even more guns.
    If you think we/you are not affected think again.

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    Default Re: Bruce Willis speaks against new gun laws, says movies not to blame for violence..!

    In my idea, violence in movies and in games does not provoke violence as such, but it does provokes desensitisation to it.

    In other words, if you have been to war, if you have had violence in the home as a child, if you had had unchecked violence at school, if you have some brain damage through an accident in the empathy/emotions parts of the brain, you most probably have become desensitized.

    See MkUltrra victims, this is exactly what they do to train them, put them through extreme pain so that personality will split and desensitization will occur.

    Violent video games does not make someone violent, this make someones not sensitive to violence around him and to others being hurt.

    As the first Gulf war did when we watched on tv, as drone attacks do because they are on distance, like on video game, we have been trained NOT to care. We are not killing real people in our heads.

    Hello!!!!! duh!!! Not far from not killing our neighbours.

    As for gun, which is the topic of the thread, it is of course the owner who will make it dangerous to have or not. A desensitized owner won't necessarily misuse his gun, but he will be desensitize to other misusing it if trained to be.

    Add drugs to it, whatever drugs, street drugs or big pharma drugs, and then you may have someone who passes the threshold of violence. Add mental illness to it, and again, you may have someone who passes the threshold of violence.

    Pair it with sexual stimuli (very frequent in video games and tv) and you have a very strong hold on profound entrainment/learning (also used in MK Ultra) to react a certain way to specific stimuli, here react violently when trained for it.

    So it is neither gun ownership nor video training to kill that makes a killer. It is the desensitisation paired with something else such as drugs, mental illness, etc. In my humble opinion. (I know the impact of training on the brain too well not to see it clearly).
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    Default Re: Bruce Willis speaks against new gun laws, says movies not to blame for violence..!

    I agree with Flash---we get desensitised----it does not seem real.
    Watching the Gulf war for some was like going to the movies --- or watching competitive sport.
    Did our side win?
    When a dictator is removed we dont actually get to know how many of the enemy were killed.
    Through being desensitised it seems almost normal to go to war, to shoot first then ask questions.
    Big gun, big man.
    Films dont show .22 calibre weapons.
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    Default Re: Bruce Willis speaks against new gun laws, says movies not to blame for violence..!

    Quote Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
    Nobody said anything about banning the movies.

    We are simply stating movies that do promote violence indeed influence people to be more violent, especially younger people.

    "No one commits a crime because they saw a film. There's nothing to support that"

    This is not true, as you can see from some examples above.

    But I agree with you that violent movies are mostly a symptom and not a cause, and yes parenting has a lot to do with it, but one could argue that parents teach what they saw in movies.

    To me it seems that only a higher self awareness and "deprogramming" can help us break the vicious circle. Banning movies or books is not helping.
    I think you are correct Ile. Hollywood makes violent movies because people want to go and see violent movies.

    Screen violence is, IMO, addictive- a form of horror movie where you can watch 1,000 zombie get their brains blown out and carry on as ''normal'' afterwards. There's no doubt that these movies are desensitizing us to violence, which is causing violence to increase astronomically. Which means we then need our movies to be even more violent. Enter Bruce Willis with shaved head, mean look and a VERY big gun...

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    Default Re: Bruce Willis speaks against new gun laws, says movies not to blame for violence..!

    Bruce Willis may be a patriot now. We are all capable of growth and change and awakening. But being a patriot is not an end all, it is only the beginning.
    What he needs to come to terms with, and not just him but all people in the media industry, is that
    the messages that they promote affect the the psyche of all, and not just those who view the movies for energy moves, and is transfered. We need to wake up to the power of that which we create.

    But patriotic words after the fact does not undue the damage his films have done.
    I do not call for book or film burning but for a refocus of those who create the media to
    provide prolific choices that match and perhaps supercede the negativity that comes out of
    the film industry.... to turn away from this ideologic pathology currently present in the film industry
    so that people have access to informaiton that will benefit them instead of darkening their aura, their mindset,
    their perspectives, their total energetic fields.

    Producers and actors have a choice every day to promote a theme and message that benefits our awakening or that degrades our abiltity to think clearly, get involved in lower vibrational thoughtforms, downright lies about the truer nature of reality. Clearly they have chosen greed and monetary success fueled by feeding the reptialian mind.

    Combine the reptilian mind with antipsychotic drugs and other drugs you have a real problem. It is also reflected not only in our school shootings but in all the levels of corruption that the planet is now enduring from sexual and physical abuse to bullying, to corrupt bankers, to the bulging walls of our prisons reflecting a multitude of crimes against humanity from individual to individual right into the corruption of our court systems.


    Some actors are endeavoring to promote growth instead of violence and Matt Damon comes to mind for this.

    Bruce Willis has done little to promote free thinking through the media, to downgrade the belief that violence is the way, to promote negative thought forms.

    People get addicted to violence, tot he physiological response that it creates. His films promote that addiction. People who are addicted have no capability to moniter and guide their children away from such addiction for it promotes desentization and a level of brain deadness. We see the same thing in pornograpthy. Many people who are into pornography most subtley and subconsciously lead their own children into it. I have seen these patterns manefest in familys that I knew a while back.

    Bruce Willis, if he is a true patriot and is awakened to consciousness, he will change his game plan in making money and start making films that promote healing, growth, awakening to self and to our governmental oppression, self reflection, and healthy relationships.

    When he starts to take the power that he has and redirects his message to the public in the film industry then I will have greater respect for him and be more inclined to view him as a valuable contibutionary member of society.

    What does it say about us as a culture and a nation when 'The Hunger Games' is a leading movie,, a movie about kids killing kids.
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    Default Re: Bruce Willis speaks against new gun laws, says movies not to blame for violence..!

    Yes Bram
    Eckhart Tolle said
    Horror movies are made by pain bodies for pain bodies.
    His take is that like to like-- lower less evolved it would seem need lower vibration.
    They need their energy fix.
    Still in survival mode---that's not a judgement--it was a necessity and still is for some.
    More evolved have other ways of surviving--- called cooperation--- a mutual support society
    Not there yet but heading that way.
    Early survival required rubbing sticks together to create fire to be warm--- now we have more advanced ways.
    So for some going to violent films is perhaps a safe way of letting of "steam"
    I cant watch them now but that's me.

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    Default Re: Bruce Willis speaks against new gun laws, says movies not to blame for violence..!

    tolle is right. Once desensitized, lower vibrations can get in easily because we let them in.

    But it also plays on the physical chemistry of the body and the brain. Once desensitized towards violence, one become desensitized toward much of his life. In order to feel again, because feelings are missed, the person has to create or be exposed to something strong that will create a strong reaction, otherwise it is not felt (soft reaction and emotions are not felt anylonger - a man don't cry is good for war ).

    These strong reactions are often felt either through adrenaline or sex hormones, if drugs are not involved. Well, both kinds of hormones are as addictive if not more than crack cocaine. So the person will need its fix again and again, more and more. Lots will add up drugs to it, in order to feel. Drugs brought in by CIA and Bush/Clinton/Rockerfellers hierarchies.

    We are trained to violence, we are trained to deviant sex, because those thrills giving hormones are the strongest there is in the body. Then, afterward, we are supplied with drugs and soon the chipping will start under the demise of fun and thrill, you will see.

    All this to bring us so down in vibrations that we cannot react anylonger to regular human needs, being desensitized, and mostly that we give a constant supply of low vibration in return.

    We are tuning forks vibrating to each other and provoking the vibration in others, and the strongest vibration wins. The lower vibrations can be controlled therefore are promoted. The controllers win.

    It is so easy to see when we start seeing, this is a child play, played on us. The training is so well done that we dummily follow, not seeing the obvious.

    This is what I have seen in the video games. Nobody saves the princess anylonger against the dragon. The princess is subdued by the vampire biting in her, who profits from her and in turn the princess subdues the others.

    I would never have been able to imagine those videos personnally. I was dreaming of cristal castles filled with brillant lights and telepathy filled with love when younger. What a contrast.
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    Default Re: Bruce Willis speaks against new gun laws, says movies not to blame for violence..!

    I know this is veering slightly off topic, but I noticed recently that Texas Chain Saw Massacre II went straight to the top of the movie list. Now I am guessing that this is a truly terrible movie, devoid of plot and decent acting and all, but the title itself tells the potential punters what to expect, and they went flocking to see.

    I don't know if this preference is the result of deliberate programming, or just the way the movie industry has evolved (without responsibility). I suspect its the latter. But if you look around, there are good movies being made too- movies about people, relationships, growth and self-education (but without gunfights, explosions and car chases).

    I tend to think that movie violence is a bit like spicy food- once you get used to your food being spicy, you feel something is missing if you eat food which is mild flavoured and doesn't plant chilly bombs on your palate.

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    Default Re: Bruce Willis speaks against new gun laws, says movies not to blame for violence..!

    Ugh, as a filmmaker this is so frustrating.
    Violence wasn't suddenly created when guns came into existence.
    People love to blame TV & Film for everything that goes wrong in this world because it's in the form of entertainment and it's in everybody's faces 24/7.
    Does that play a part? Of course it does however, when I was growing up parents didn't sit up and play the blame game when it came to personal responsibility for their children. It didnt' matter what I saw on TV, I had home training and a mother that instilled the difference between right and wrong in me so it didn't matter what I saw on TV. That didn't inform my decisions as a person.
    The entertainment industry is not there to help raise anybody's children; it's there to ENTERTAIN. All ages, all lifestyles, all people on this planet deserve to have entertainment they can watch and enjoy. It's everybody's right and if people dont' like it; change the channel and keep it truckin.

    What does it say about this country when "Star Wars" is a leading film? Or "Avatar" , or "Book of Pi", or "Batman" or "Silver Linings Playbook" or "King Kong", "Battleship" "The Avengers"....it says it's no wonder America leads the world in blockbuster films. If we start pinpointing "what does it say about our country" next to every movie title...we will be here contradicting ourselves/over ourselves all day and night. It says we are a country with very active imaginations.
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    Default Re: Bruce Willis speaks against new gun laws, says movies not to blame for violence..!

    Movies and computer games are not to blame for violence.

    Most of the time I believe you have individuals that are born unbalanced and capable of violence, and you have individuals whom are violently abused in their formative years. Either will have a tendency to become violent.

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    Default Re: Bruce Willis speaks against new gun laws, says movies not to blame for violence..!

    Bruce Willis spits water in strange TV interview

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    Presenter Kate Garraway let out a shocked laugh as the 57-year-old Die Hard star sprayed the water onto the carpet of the luxury suite where UK's Daybreak program was filming the interview.

    Garraway had asked Willis how he made his youngest child, 10-year-old Mabel, laugh.

    "'I think my job really, outside of acting, is to try to make Mabel laugh. I do stupid stuff all of the time. I do spit takes," Willis said, before calling for a glass of water to show off his trick.

    The water-spitting incident follows Willis's "cringe-worthy" appearance on the BBC's One Show last week in which the actor appeared to be half asleep and gave monosyllabic answers.

    The interview was described as "torturous" by some viewers and labelled "one of the most awkward interviews ever" by The Sun newspaper.


    Now the smear campaign against Bruce Willis begins. The poor guy is getting the Michael Jackson treatment for standing against TPTW on guns.
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    Default Re: Bruce Willis speaks against new gun laws, says movies not to blame for violence..!

    He's probably being attacked him to do these "weird" things. He's not stupid, why would he go against guns then act "coocoo" unless someone else wanted him to appear crazy/not with it because of what he said about the gun law's.

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