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    Default The Anunnaki, their history on earth, where are they today?

    I wish to start a discusion about alien interference in our world today and their influence on our history and evolution.

    I have read a lot of Zecharia Sitchin's Earth Chronicles Series and cannot get enough of it. It says so much about our supposed myths and our religions.

    It seems almost all if not all of our ancient cultures were influenced by the pantheon of gods that for a time lived amongst us. Their legends reveal how a race of beings that came from another world guided their civilizations and taught them the skills and secrets to advance their cultures.

    Many of today's religions owe their existence directly to these ancient beings. In particular, the Judeo-Christian peoples. The Jewish tradition still keeps track of the ancient year count of the Sumerians. The Christains borrowed extensively from the creation myths of this same culture. I have yet to find a connection to the Muslim religion but there probably is one if I dug far enough.

    This is just a teaser for now.

    I wonder if they just left our planet for good after they unleashed a nuclear device that accidentally wiped out their lands, the scar of which can still be seen from satellite on the arabian penninsula. Or did they disperse across the globe and influence those other ancient cultures?

    I have heard some call our race warlike due to our great ape anscestors. To me this is insulting to the great apes. They never war on each other to the point of desolation, like so many of our race have done to their enemies in the past and still do today. There is no parallel here, imo.

    Finally, for now, the last of the great gods from Babylonian times, Amon Ra/Marduk, the "unseen" god, was defeated by a new god, Ashur, the "seen" god of the Assyrians.

    The part that fascinates me the most is that I have never found a link to the hungarian language. It is a mystery where the root of that language comes from, except for some unsatisfactory assumptions by a few linguists who seem to just egoically lump it in with races from the steppes of Russia and beyond. But Sitchin makes a comment how hungarian and finnish are heavily rooted in Summerian. That intrigues me.

    Why do I bring this up now?

    There seems to be heavy emphasis taking place on some upcoming events in America and I just want to make sure it is kept in context. If there are disasterous events on the horizon, they may very well be the agenda of an ancient group influenced by these Anunaki that "from heaven to earth came".

    More to follow...

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    Default Re: The Anunnaki, their history on earth, where are they today?

    I think those folks are still here.

    Richard Shaver, a writer from the 1940’s, attempted to convey his communications with a negative race of individuals who lived under the earth who imployed ancient delapated technologies for extending their lives, and influencing and controlling the lives of humans on the surface of the earth. Here is a brief summary of his thesis.


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    Thousands of years ago, extraterrestrial space travelers
    visited Earth and established huge underground colonies here. They couldn’t live on
    the surface because solar radiation shortened their lifespan, which was normally
    measured in centuries. Eventually, the civilization that had planted the colonies
    became moribund, and contact with the parent worlds became less and less frequent.
    Because the underground colonies were cut off from outside supplies, some of the
    colonists were forced to live permanently on the surface to grow food and obtain the
    raw materials necessary to sustain life in the underground cities.

    Over a long period of time, the “detrimental radiation” of the sun caused the
    minds of the surface dwellers to degenerate, and eventually they reverted to complete
    barbarism. However, they did retain enough intelligence to start progressing again,
    finally achieving human civilization as we read about it in our history books.
    During this whole period, the many inhabitants of the underground colonies,
    which Shaver simply calls “Caves,” survived and retained a significant amount of the
    original knowledge and technology. However, the population of Cave dwellers
    gradually decreased because of constant shortages of supplies from the surface. After
    the surface people forgot completely about the origin and nature of the underground
    cities, the Cave dwellers started posing as gods and other supernatural beings to coerce
    surface people into providing them food and other necessities. The Cave people
    possess machines for generating “Rays” that give them certain kinds of power over
    surface dwellers.
    Some types of Rays can kill or wound people, but others can be used to heal
    sickness or injury or to slow down the aging process. The Rays can also be used for
    telepathic communication and to control the thoughts and emotions of others at a
    distance. They seem to be most effective at close range, but some are powerful
    enough to have a significant effect on surface people.
    The Cave dwellers have used their Ray technology to manipulate surface society
    throughout history, especially to obtain food and other supplies without the majority of
    people on Earth being aware of it. A few surface people were in on the plot and acted
    as agents of the Cave dwellers; these included members of such diverse groups as
    political rulers, religious leaders, wealthy merchants and traders, smugglers, and
    pirates.
    However, the population in the Caves has decreased steadily over the ages
    because of continual shortages of raw materials. Shaver described the current
    situation in the underground cities as grim and desperate, with the political and social
    structure in almost complete collapse. Starvation and cannibalism are commonplace,
    and many of the inhabitants have turned themselves into literal monsters through
    improper use of the Rays. These “Deros” have become insane tyrants, and most have
    deformed their bodies as well, by trying to use the life prolonging Rays to achieve
    physical immortality. Because “detrimental radiation from the Sun penetrates even
    into the Caves”, and because many of the Ray machines themselves have deteriorated
    through ages of constant use and makeshift repairs, the Deros resemble the living dead
    of legend. The Rays alone aren’t enough: to survive, they also have to eat human
    flesh like ghouls, and drink human blood like vampires.
    However, some of the Cave dwellers are still normal: they call themselves
    “Teros,” and often use their Rays to help people on the surface, especially to combat
    the evil being done by the Deros. However, they aren’t militarily strong enough to
    conquer and destroy the Deros, and the only reason they survive at all is that they
    sometimes receive help from extraterrestrials who arrive in spaceships.
    Unfortunately, these modern space travelers are also incapable of defeating the
    Deros. According to Shaver, they’ve been trying for centuries to get some
    government or other elsewhere in the galaxy to “send in the Marines and clean up
    Earth,” but so far it hasn’t happened. Earth is just one small planet in a remote
    backwater of the universe, and no advanced interstellar civilization has bothered to
    come here and fight a war to liberate us from the Deros.

    Some of Shaver’s stories assert that such civilizations still exist, and that “help
    from the stars” might arrive at any time. Others are pessimistic and say they all fell
    long ago. The stories saying that some worlds have retained sufficient technology to
    permit interstellar travel also make it plain that such cultures are degenerate remnants
    of once-great civilizations, now fallen into decay. In either case, the Teros fight on,
    barely holding their own. They use their Rays to communicate with people like
    Shaver, hoping that eventually civilization on the surface will develop technologically
    to the point where we will be able to help them defeat the Deros, but they make it clear
    this point is far in the future.
    The Deros lack the technical knowledge necessary to keep their Ray machines in
    good repair, so they are no longer able to keep political control of surface society or
    prevent technological progress. However, the machines they have inherited from
    ancient times are still far too advanced for our present scientists to duplicate, and they
    continue to have a great deal of power to manipulate both surface society as a whole
    and the minds of individuals.

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    Default Re: The Anunnaki, their history on earth, where are they today?

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    See this thread:

    The Anunnaki

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    Dear All,

    I recently wrote up some notes about the Anunnaki for someone who knew little about them. The concise report I created seemed to have some value (you will not find this information all in one place anywhere else) - and so here it is:

    Anunnaki is Sumerian for "those who came from Heaven to Earth". They were regarded by the Sumerians as "gods", but were actually ETs.

    They are 8-9 feet tall [2.4 - 2.7m], and like dressing up in ceremonial costumes (including headdresses), which are colorful, flamboyant, ornate, and ceremonial. Their culture goes back to 100,000 years or more, and they attach a great importance to tradition, ritual, ceremony and symbols.

    They have large heads with a pronounced jaw and are physically very strong. They also have enhanced mental abilities and can certainly operate effectively in the astral realms. But their technology (spacecraft, and ability to manipulate space and time) is also very advanced.

    They certainly do not ride around on an icy, rocky planetoid ("Nibiru") waiting patiently for it to return near Earth every 3,600 years. They have their own spacecraft. Henry Deacon said they looked a little like this (the 'wings' retract and are ornamental):



    They were here in Sumerian times, about 6,000 years ago, when they arrived on Earth to 'jump-start' the Sumerian civilization which had always puzzled archeologists inasmuch as it seemed to arise out of a much more primitive culture, almost literally overnight.

    Suddenly, the Sumerians had law, government, education, finance, literature, music, and everything that we would assume as a necessary part of a healthy civilized society.

    The Anunnaki attach a great deal of importance to administration, laws, finance, agreements, and very complex administrative structures. Much of what has become imported into human societies as royal ceremony, pyramidal hierarchies, levels of initiation within secret societies, and all the attached complex symbolism, much of which has high traditional significance but which can also be deliberately obscure to the casual observer, can all be traced back to Anunnaki influence.

    In present time, they are active on Mars, and this has been reported by Project Camelot whistleblower Henry Deacon (pseudonym), who saw them at first hand. Henry said that since Sumerian times, the Anunnaki race has split into two factions - one friendly to humans and the other less so.

    He hinted strongly that the less friendly race has acquired a taste for human flesh. He described how when he was working for black projects as an electronics engineer, he was invited to a briefing in which this topic was presented. He walked out in disgust, and was amazed that (a) no-one stopped him from leaving, and (b) he was the only person who walked out.

    According to Zecharia Sitchin (recently passed) - who 'translated' many ancient Sumerian texts - and whose work has been dismissed by conventional archeologists but widely accepted among the alternative community - one reason the Anunnaki came to Planet Earth was to mine gold, which they had a strong desire for and attributed a great deal of value and importance to. It's possible that our own love and value and fascination for gold in the present day is a throwback to the attitude introduced by the Anunnaki.

    One veteran researcher, who Kerry Cassidy and I also know personally, knew Zecharia Sitchin very well. This person told us that Zecharia had told him that his books were NOT translated from the Sumerian - but were actually channeled products of automatic writing.

    We were also told that Zecharia Sitchin was paid on a retainer basis by the NSA, who always wanted to be kept up to date by Sitchin about what the Anunnaki were up to - because it seemed that Sitchin had a direct telepathic line to the Anunnaki in real time. (Note: there is quite a lot in Sitchin's books that is certainly disinformation - possibly deliberately inserted by the Anunnaki themselves). But quite a lot of the basic story is probably quite true.
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    Default Re: The Anunnaki, their history on earth, where are they today?

    A simple analogy I use at work, when some of us try to discuss these subjects, to the comments of
    'they believe in Aliens'..LOL..by some of the 'idiots' i call them in our 'banter' ..LOl..

    Is do they believe in 'test tube' babies and genetic manipulation of plants & animals, Dolly the Sheep
    etc and would it not have been possible thousands of years ago for an advanced space traveling
    civilisation to have colonized earth and manipulated the genes of a lesser idigenous hominoid ?
    We have been to space and have been talking of colonising the moon and Mars.( I don't mention
    the secret space fleet in this analogy..LOL..) If in a hundred years or so we went further a field
    and found a less advanced hominoid species, would not our scientists look to enhance their abilities
    if they wanted to use them as a work force on an expanding colony? ( I don't say we probably could
    now). They usually stop taking the p--- then, but it still goes over their heads,though some of them quietly
    take note...LOl Steve..
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    I've been sifting through the Anunnaki, Veda, Sumerian, Egyptian history and if you haven't yet read the book
    ROMANWKT advised we should look at give it a go. It seems to explain a lot of things.

    http://archive.org/details/The_Great..._Lana_Cantrell

    You can read online or print out etc.

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    I think its beneficial to manage our thinking around this so that we realize that the ancient references offer both evidence as well as corrupted information.

    It is certainly obvious from the many cultural presentations that the development of the human species was intervened upon by some higher being. And it does make sense given the spontaneous advancement of human lifestyle.

    But, we must also be cautious about taking this to the extreme and adopting speculations as facts.

    In consideration of ancient lore, and present and historical states of being, it is credible to acknowledge a 'higher than human state of being' which has become the average experience and culture of this planet. This can involve aspects from ET Elites to hybrid elites, to humans imbued with genetically manipulated abilities beyond most average human ability.

    I tend to think that because of ancient manipulation, many facets of this ET/higher being are manifested throughout human culture, encompassing hybrids, pure ETs, genetically enhanced human/hybrids, and successions of those having not as much of the genetic mutations.

    But I also realize that none of this genetic physical experience has anything to do with the evolution of fields of consciousness, which are only subjected to their vehicles, and not enslaved to them. regardless of one's genetic ancestry, whether ET, or hybrid, or Earthly in origin, the field of consciousness making use of that form evolves according to the paths and experiences realized while in those vehicles, and is not defined by the very temporary experience of being in that one vehicle of countless many.

    What happened in the past is certainly relevant to that which we now experience in this world. But, Annunaki hybrids or not, elite manipulation or not, All is process of being. Despite the genetics and physical experiences involved. There is much going on all around us in this vast universe which is both higher and lower states of being, all part of a design and process which only includes our Earthly dynamics, and is not defined entirely by them.

    This is OUR experience. There is much beyond this we believe to be the center of the universe.

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    "I see how peoples are set against one another, and in silence, unknowingly, foolishly, obediently, innocently slay one another"

    --"Over a long period of time, the “detrimental radiation” of the sun caused the minds of the surface dwellers to degenerate, and eventually they reverted to complete barbarism."--

    from [v d of] enlightened to various degrees of barbarism,
    maybe more of this has to do with structures in and about society than to other natural occurrences,
    {one could notice these in our societies too}

    a hypothesis i could take from a book in which the opening phrase occurs in, ..all quite on the western front
    The Thought of Norea: They heard, (and) they received - into - place forever...in order that - might rest in the ineffable Epinoia, in order that - might inherit the first mind which - had received, & that - might rest in the divine Autogenes, and that - too might generate -self, just as - also has inherited the living Logos, & that - might be joined to all of the Imperishable Ones, and speak with the mind of the Father

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    Default Re: The Anunnaki, their history on earth, where are they today?

    Thanks Bill for the link and for posting your comments here as well. On the last page you make a disclaimer that I believe belongs here as well:

    Re: The Anunnaki






    Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    One veteran researcher, who Kerry Cassidy and I also know personally, knew Zecharia Sitchin very well. This person told us that Zecharia had told him that his books were NOT translated from the Sumerian - but were actually channeled products of automatic writing.
    Hi again, All:

    I was re-reading this paragraph above and realized that it gave the wrong impression. Sitchin did indeed translate his works from the Sumerian (he was a gifted scholar), but was guided by channeled information in the many instances where the meaning was not clear, or was ambiguous.

    This accounts for the differences of opinion between him and other Sumerian scholars, who have ridiculed some of his interpretations.

    I remain 100% certain that Sitchin's claims that the Anunnaki are riding around on Nibiru were disinformation coming from the Anunnaki themselves. The Anunnaki have advanced spacecraft and can certainly travel around the solar system freely any time they want. Where their home planet really is, I have no idea and have never heard (Henry Deacon didn't know either).

    (I lost a long reply so I will protect myself by posting separate replies.)
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    Enlil and Enki are the two prominent sons of Anu, the ruler of the Annunaki. Anu divided the rule of earth between these two sons. Enlil was given the lands north of Africa and Enki those further south. Enlil, however was placed in charge of the Igigi, the spacefarers that circled the earth in their spaceships. Not much is said about the Igigi, except that they did not like being planet-bound, or maybe could not even land if they wanted to due to physical factors not elaborated on in the texts. This designation, gave Enlil supreme cammand over all of Earth.

    Enlil did not much like the genetically manipulated indigenous species and tried to have them exterminated several times. It was Enki (also known as Ea) that came to man's rescue twice in the nick of time. It was Enki who, with the help of another of the Nibiruan gods, altered our DNA and infused it with their own, thereby jump starting our rapid rise on the evolutionary ladder. But they also made certain that some of the more advanced traits were locked away and inaccessible to individual humans (we call this "junk" DNA today).

    More on this later.
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    The Enuma Elish is the "creation myth of the Sumerians, borrowed heavily and even copied verbatim by the Assyrians and Babylonians. All except one of the seven tablets have been fully recovered and verified because they have been found in all three languages.

    Here is what Wiki has to say about it. (notice they say nothing about Sumerian tablets, part of the disinfo, I guess).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En%C3%BBma_Eli%C5%A1
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    In present time, they are active on Mars, and this has been reported by Project Camelot whistleblower Henry Deacon (pseudonym), who saw them at first hand. Henry said that since Sumerian times, the Anunnaki race has split into two factions - one friendly to humans and the other less so.
    It's ironic that Charles, aka Atticus, mentioned Henry Deacon as only one of two who "get it" and are right on.

    So, how do we focus on the faction which has the interests of humanity in mind? Does this faction want to destroy the current humanoids in favor of an upgraded humanoid?

    It would appear, from all the information we have, that the nefarious faction agenda is rolling out quite precipitously, and that any opposition is quite rudimentary.
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    Thanks, Ernie, I was about to post on the brothers Enkie and Enlil and that rift between them, that who knows, might be related to the current split in Annunaki and their relations to humans as is evidenced by Henrey Deacon.

    There are many more questions that arise from Henrey's testimony, as Bill brought here, for example :

    1) How much is known about the size of the empire of the Annunaki, and to where it extends? Is it within the near Galaxies or beyond?

    2) Did Henrey talk about the overall attitude of black projects towards the Annunaki on Mars, as was presented to them in the briefing? was it sympatetic, a reality of cooperation which was necessary, was there any resentment?

    3) What specific manners and features characterises the one's who Henrey met with, was it possible to create a common language or was it based on a kind of employee- employer relations (if that's at all possible to define)

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    It is also believed that Marduk, Enki's son, was conditioning earth hybrid population to serve him for the time when he and the rest of Annunakis from home planet Nibiru will be able to remain on Earth.

    The question is, besides gold, what type of other sources do they find interest in? are those simply minerals and metals, or maybe a more biological source?
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    Hey Grip,

    Don't hold me to this but could it be that a part of the answer might lie in the mechanics of each side.

    This nefarious side plan, connive, decieve, subvert (past and future orientation). The other side rely heavily on spontaneity, synchronicity, live and let live - that sort of thing (present focussed).
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    Unfortunetly, the fact that there are two factions does not mean that the more moderate side symphatizes with humanity. of course, we would rather think this way. animals will always prefer to find that there are a lot of vegeterians in the crowd..

    We know pretty much very little on that, 'dirty laundery is usually washed at home', so, I doubt if 'live and let live' is an occurate enough description of the more moderate side of the faction.
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    Contactee OnyxKnight says Nibiru was destroyed in 2003 and lies in rubble in the asteroid belt of our solar system. He says they escaped in giant spaceships before its destruction and then traveled to the Gamma Serpentis system to build a new planetoid/mothership and rebuild their population.

    But I suppose that's too insubstantial to take seriously. Much safer to rely on possibly poor translations of possibly inaccurate accounts gleaned from tablets possibly containing intentional disinformation.
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    Quote Posted by Maunagarjana (here)
    Contactee OnyxKnight says Nibiru was destroyed in 2003 and lies in rubble in the asteroid belt of our solar system. He says they escaped in giant spaceships before its destruction and then traveled to the Gamma Serpentis system to build a new planetoid/mothership and rebuild their population.

    But I suppose that's too insubstantial to take seriously. Much safer to rely on possibly poor translations of possibly inaccurate accounts gleaned from tablets possibly containing intentional disinformation.

    Or channelings

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    I've been sifting through the Anunnaki, Veda, Sumerian, Egyptian history and if you haven't yet read the book
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    There's nothing I can argue about in terms of whether the stone tablets from antiquity were purposefully misleading.

    All I can tell you is that I once wrote a book on an old Olivetta typewriter. It was a nightmare. One mistake and the page had to be rewriten. There was no editing programs or word processors back then. I cannot imagine going through all that trouble to lie or mislead. Imagine the herculean task of imprinting stones either by carving or through the use of cylinder scrolls! The idea of setting in stone a lie seems like a huge waste of effort.

    Also, the corroborating evidence across the millenia and from one culture to the next makes this scenario all the more untenable.

    And, if one was setting about to lie in order to mislead, would they cast their race in such an unfavorable light? No, I think not, but that's just my take on the matter.

    Finally, would they have gone into so much detail about their daily lives and their history of incest, war, and power wranglings if they wanted us to believe a set of lies? What would be the purpose to provide these details then. And why the high level of accuracy in terms of historical and geographical details? These have been proven to have occured where they said they occured, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

    In any case, I will continue, assuming others are still interested and are open to this line of inquiry.
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    There's nothing I can argue about in terms of whether the stone tablets from antiquity were purposefully misleading.

    All I can tell you is that I once wrote a book on an old Olivetta typewriter. It was a nightmare. One mistake and the page had to be rewriten. There was no editing programs or word processors back then. I cannot imagine going through all that trouble to lie or mislead. Imagine the herculean task of imprinting stones either by carving or through the use of cylinder scrolls! The idea of setting in stone a lie seems like a huge waste of effort.

    Also, the corroborating evidence across the millenia and from one culture to the next makes this scenario all the more untenable.

    And, if one was setting about to lie in order to mislead, would they cast their race in such an unfavorable light? No, I think not, but that's just my take on the matter.

    Finally, would they have gone into so much detail about their daily lives and their history of incest, war, and power wranglings if they wanted us to believe a set of lies? What would be the purpose to provide these details then. And why the high level of accuracy in terms of historical and geographical details? These have been proven to have occured where they said they occured, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

    In any case, I will continue, assuming others are still interested and are open to this line of inquiry.
    Those are good points. Much of the information from Sitchin is unflattering towards them by our standards (assuming the tablets were accurately translated.) I wasn't really suggesting they were all disinformation. But may include very targeted disinformation. An example would be information that would lead us to believe that we are the result of crossbreeding of apes and Nibiruan genetics, when perhaps that wasn't entirely true, while still containing the truth that they had engaged in genetically engineering various versions of Homo Sapiens.

    Last year I had a long conversation with author Marshall Klarfeld at the Conscious Life Expo, a close friend of Sitchin's (he described himself as Sitchin's "disciple") and I asked him if he thought there was intentional disinformation in the Sumerian tablets, and he said, "Ah! You have stumbled upon the secret!" But he didn't elaborate a whole lot, besides saying it was possible.

    Klarfeld told me all kinds of interesting stuff, like that (in his view) Ningishzidda was Quetzalcoatl/Kukulkan and Djehuti/Thoth, that Ningishzidda had a feud with Marduk over Marduk's accidental murder of Tammuz and also Ningishzidda's voting for Nannar to succeed Anu instead of his brother Marduk, and that resulted in Ningishzidda being banished from Egypt whereupon he relocated to the Guatemala area (or maybe it was more south, like in Northern South America, I can't remember precisely) accompanied by a bunch of early versions of Homo Sapiens (to be laborers) who later became known as the Olmecs (which is why statues of the Olmecs look African.) Of course, his views are based on Sitchin's translations, so who knows how accurate his conclusions are.

    If you haven't already, you might also want to look into the case of Michael Lee Hill who claims to have met beings from Nibiru (including, he believes, Marduk himself) and/or their descendents. There have been articles written about him, news reports about his UFO videos taken on Lake Erie (which he said are Anunnaki craft) and there was a segment on a UFO related TV series called "UFO Hunters" about him where they determined that he had an unknown blood type and some sort of very rare genetic abnormality that causes him to have elevated levels of Creatine Kinase in his bloodstream, which confirmed for him that he was "one of them", at least in part. He also claims to have discovered he is the son of Eric Clapton.
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