US always to blame?

[bogeyman]

Why is it the US is always the bad boy?

Looking across the world, there are many brutal dictatorships, and lack of justice and freedoms, yet these are rarely mentioned, usually because people are not informed enough, unless they take upon themselves to look into these matters.

Yet because the US is in the limelight all it's faults are attacked, yet if it were to fall the consequence throughout the world would be like a tidal wave. Every country has its problems and faults, the fact people can complain about the US is a indication of some of the freedom you have, many throughout the world don't have such a luxury. Some attack the US for personal reasons, others for political motivations, and self centred interests. Ask your self, what would other countries behave like if they were in a similar position to the

There have been many countries who have had expansive, ideology, or trying to influence other countries for their own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires

It is a part of human history, and it seems unification of man, is virtual impossible, even if in the long term it may be beneficial to us as a whole. The US is just one in a long chain....it seems many have the freedom to express themselves regarding this, many countries in the world,don't have this luxury. Man likes to be divided and find some thing or ones to hate...it's in his nature, and it seems a never ending process.

[bram]

Posted by bogeyman (here)
Why is it the US is always the bad boy?

Looking across the world, there are many brutal dictatorships, and lack of justice and freedoms, yet these are rarely mentioned, usually because people are not informed enough, unless they take upon themselves to look into these matters.

Yet because the US is in the limelight all it's faults are attacked, yet if it were to fall the consequence throughout the world would be like a tidal wave. Every country has its problems and faults, the fact people can complain about the US is a indication of some of the freedom you have, many throughout the world don't have such a luxury. Some attack the US for personal reasons, others for political motivations, and self centred interests. Ask your self, what would other countries behave like if they were in a similar position to the

There have been many countries who have had expansive, ideology, or trying to influence other countries for their own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires

It is a part of human history, and it seems unification of man, is virtual impossible, even if in the long term it may be beneficial to us as a whole. The US is just one in a long chain....it seems many have the freedom to express themselves regarding this, many countries in the world,don't have this luxury. Man likes to be divided and find some thing or ones to hate...it's in his nature, and it seems a never ending process.

You seem to be forgetting that half the brutal dictatorships in the world are only there because of the interference of the CIA (assisted by the British).

[Cidersomerset]

Why is it the US is always the bad boy?

Its a fair point, its nothing to do with the American people as such but the policy makers
of the 20th century thru to today. Who ? really runs the world which include corporate
America. The fourth Reich whatever you want to call it.America was made into the
'Arsenal of the West' which included Russia & China during WW11 to defeat the Axis
block. This immiediatly led to the Cold war ideology friction.

With the end of the cold war in 1990 the US was taken over by factions like the neo-
cons and this led to the CIA planned and led war on drugs& terror. Instead of a
peace dividened The US who were financially in the black in 2000 has been
manipulated into serving either powers behind the scenes that have been
manipulating empires for thousands of years.....Or the other option it is just
evil,jealous,greedy humans who have reachedthe top of society and do not want to
lose control and lie and cheat to stay in the 1% bracket at the expence of everyone
else, which is what most people think.On the whole the 99% will execept this 2nd
scenario while they are getting something from the top table, but will revolt when
pushed to far which we have seen many, many times thru history the lastest being
the 'Arab spring'....

This has been the realm of a few scholers, polititions,Dictators. Kings & Queens
in the past.Its only now the common people can see how corrupt the world is
and discuss it openly to fellow humans around the world.I would say 99%
percent of us would like to live in harmony, stamp out poverty end wars
and have a good experiance of the other emotions of life.Its clear at the
momment who ever is manipulating reality is still well and truly having
another go today and the web 'Cyber Wars' is the next target !!

So America is just the latest 'Great Satan' out of many thru the ages !

[bogeyman]

Posted by bram (here)

Posted by bogeyman (here)
Why is it the US is always the bad boy?

Looking across the world, there are many brutal dictatorships, and lack of justice and freedoms, yet these are rarely mentioned, usually because people are not informed enough, unless they take upon themselves to look into these matters.

Yet because the US is in the limelight all it's faults are attacked, yet if it were to fall the consequence throughout the world would be like a tidal wave. Every country has its problems and faults, the fact people can complain about the US is a indication of some of the freedom you have, many throughout the world don't have such a luxury. Some attack the US for personal reasons, others for political motivations, and self centred interests. Ask your self, what would other countries behave like if they were in a similar position to the

There have been many countries who have had expansive, ideology, or trying to influence other countries for their own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires

It is a part of human history, and it seems unification of man, is virtual impossible, even if in the long term it may be beneficial to us as a whole. The US is just one in a long chain....it seems many have the freedom to express themselves regarding this, many countries in the world,don't have this luxury. Man likes to be divided and find some thing or ones to hate...it's in his nature, and it seems a never ending process.

You seem to be forgetting that half the brutal dictatorships in the world are only there because of the interference of the CIA (assisted by the British).

Look at the dictatorships the former USSR brought into the world, and those that China is supporting, let alone Iran and others' including numerous other empires that existed in the past of the past. Finger pointing is common in man's history, likes to blame and to hate, as I have said many times, it is in the nature of man, regardless what part of the planet you come from.

[markpierre]

Posted by bogeyman (here)
Why is it the US is always the bad boy?

Looking across the world, there are many brutal dictatorships, and lack of justice and freedoms, yet these are rarely mentioned, usually because people are not informed enough, unless they take upon themselves to look into these matters.

Yet because the US is in the limelight all it's faults are attacked, yet if it were to fall the consequence throughout the world would be like a tidal wave. Every country has its problems and faults, the fact people can complain about the US is a indication of some of the freedom you have, many throughout the world don't have such a luxury. Some attack the US for personal reasons, others for political motivations, and self centred interests. Ask your self, what would other countries behave like if they were in a similar position to the

There have been many countries who have had expansive, ideology, or trying to influence other countries for their own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires

It is a part of human history, and it seems unification of man, is virtual impossible, even if in the long term it may be beneficial to us as a whole. The US is just one in a long chain....it seems many have the freedom to express themselves regarding this, many countries in the world,don't have this luxury. Man likes to be divided and find some thing or ones to hate...it's in his nature, and it seems a never ending process.

I don't really get the point of this thread, or what it is you're trying to stir. But it's over-obvious where the wars come from.

I don't care where the brain lives, the trigger finger lives there.

[bogeyman]

Posted by markpierre (here)

Posted by bogeyman (here)
Why is it the US is always the bad boy?

Looking across the world, there are many brutal dictatorships, and lack of justice and freedoms, yet these are rarely mentioned, usually because people are not informed enough, unless they take upon themselves to look into these matters.

Yet because the US is in the limelight all it's faults are attacked, yet if it were to fall the consequence throughout the world would be like a tidal wave. Every country has its problems and faults, the fact people can complain about the US is a indication of some of the freedom you have, many throughout the world don't have such a luxury. Some attack the US for personal reasons, others for political motivations, and self centred interests. Ask your self, what would other countries behave like if they were in a similar position to the

There have been many countries who have had expansive, ideology, or trying to influence other countries for their own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires

It is a part of human history, and it seems unification of man, is virtual impossible, even if in the long term it may be beneficial to us as a whole. The US is just one in a long chain....it seems many have the freedom to express themselves regarding this, many countries in the world,don't have this luxury. Man likes to be divided and find some thing or ones to hate...it's in his nature, and it seems a never ending process.

I don't really get the point of this thread, or what it is you're trying to stir. But it's over-obvious where the wars come from.

I don't care where the brain lives, the trigger finger lives there.

The nature of war itself, it doesn't matter whom in a certain period of history is deem the dominant power, or the instigator of war, it is something that is with our species, or as I believe far beyond just the physical attributes of our existence here. We always try to blame, one power or another, but almost every country on this planet has been at war, had has been responsible for injustice and death. It is a much deeper problem than the so called obvious finger pointing, which is a simplistic answer.

[Kryztian]

The USA has taken the role of the world's policeman, "spreading democracy" across the globe. Of course, oppressive governments like Saudi Arabia, that practice the most extreme oppression of women and religious freedoms, are "friends" and other nations, Libya, Syria, Iraq, where there is a strategic or economic interest that is in conflict with the goals of multi-national corporations and banks.

But the USA only takes care of these "problems" at a military level. The financial, legal, academic, religious and other institutions that try and keep the rest of the world's people "under control" are not just from the USA, they are from Europe, Japan and other nations too.

[markpierre]

Posted by bogeyman (here)
The nature of war itself, it doesn't matter whom in a certain period of history is deem the dominant power, or the instigator of war, it is something that is with our species, or as I believe far beyond just the physical attributes of our existence here. We always try to blame, one power or another, but almost every country on this planet has been at war, had has been responsible for injustice and death. It is a much deeper problem than the so called obvious finger pointing, which is a simplistic answer.

All of that power, in fact all of that power from all across time, is focused right now in a place.

[GoodETxSG]

Excellent Thread!!! It really got me thinking. I created another Thread and gave due credit to this one for inspiring me. Thank you bogeyman.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...752#post634752

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

'Spreading Democracy' through the world is why!

[The One]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

This is where it went wrong the military industrial complex.

[bram]

Posted by Positive Vibe Merchant (here)
'Spreading Democracy' through the world is why!

"Spreading democracy" is today's hurrah! phrase. back in the British Empire, the excuse was "bringing Christianity to the heathens". You just take a good idea, and you use it to justify your evil intent. Forced Christian conversion and forced democracy are equally useless in my opinion.

[turiya]

bogeyman wrote:

US always to blame?

It is a part of human history, and it seems unification of man, is virtual impossible, even if in the long term it may be beneficial to us as a whole. The US is just one in a long chain....it seems many have the freedom to express themselves regarding this, many countries in the world,don't have this luxury. Man likes to be divided and find some thing or ones to hate...it's in his nature, and it seems a never ending process.

Carl Gustav Jung wrote:
“an unknown ‘something’ has taken possession of a smaller or greater portion of the psyche and asserts its hateful and harmful existence undeterred by all our insight, reason, and energy, thereby proclaiming the power of the unconscious over the conscious mind, the sovereign power of possession.”

And, Chris Thomas describes what had happened rather well (imo):
"With hindsight the story can be told:

The problems began with the slowing of the higher brain functions. This is to do with our abilities to psychically communicate with other people and other living things on the planet. We, ever so slowly, began to notice that it was increasingly difficult to communicate in this way.

All souls within the universe communicate by psychic means and so, to those who were on Atlantis, this form of communication was natural. As we began to, apparently slow down, losses to this function were the first to be noticed. It was a little like television reception. Normally, the reception and transmission was perfectly clear but 'interference' began to be noticed. Images and messages began to become a little 'fuzzy' around the edges and then they gradually slowed so that an act of extreme concentration was required to pass even the simplest messages. This slowing took place over several hundred years; this is why it took so long to notice.

Other things then began to happen. Our communication with wild predatory animals was instantaneous but this began to slow and so we began to feel threatened by their presence, particularly at night. We began to build shelters, communal sleeping places where a guard could be kept to ensure that no predators could approach unnoticed. The beginnings of the loss of trust between man and animals.

This loss of trust began to build fear amongst the human population, very subtly at first but also insidious, like a drip feed into the subconscious. Never before had this kind of fear and mistrust ever been experienced. We began to shrink inwards, away from the world. Daytime was fine but night time began to hold fear for us. Protection became an issue whereas it had never been before.

As fear began to take hold, we also began to close inwards into ourselves and we began to argue. Factions began to form. Aggression began to show up for the first time. How? We lived on a world of perfect harmony. For fifteen thousand years we had lived in harmony with all living things, now we had begun to develop fear for other living things and aggression towards each other.

Then things really started to deteriorate... "
The Universal Soul by Chris Thomas (pages 19-20)

turiya

[Flash]

Why is the US to blame?

Because they are the most powerful nation on earth and have no counterparts to balance that power (ex: ex USSR). And as power corrupts absolutely, the US power has become corrupt, therefore, US does abuse its position of power on the planet.

Nobody else has that much power and nobody else uses so much power so extensively, to the detriment of the people of the countries they invade and make policies about..

Of course, this is without the willfull consent of its people. However, its people has some reponsibilities with this power. The responsibility of not waking up. the repsonsibility of not understanding their role and that they could be the big good brother for the world (and please, don't give the "democracy" crap, the only place where US was involved that has democracy was US, they brought it to nobody else, on the contrary, US supported many dictatorship, including Irak, and even democracy in US is not true anylonger). The responsibility of wanting more fighting at the eveyday level. The responsibility of not getting informed enough to see the impact their country has in and on the world.

[jookyle]

The United States as a state serves as the executive branch for the capitalist class. Every CIA coup and almost every war the US has been involved in has been to aid the capitalist class and allow them to retain power and profit. Whether the United States operated using something as direct as military force, or as indirect as using the IMF it simply goes to benefit the capitalist class. This is also official state policy since the end of WWII rather than being an implied positon of colonialism like in Europe. Towards the end of the war the State Department headed by George Keanen made a joint effort with the Council Of Forgien Relations (A foreign relations think tank that is made up of 80% capitalists and dictate foreign policy). Out of this came what they called the "Grand Area Theory". This meant that the rest of the world was viewed as how it could benefit American interests. The interests described where in the interests of the private market. This also where "containment theory" came out of and ultimately lead to massive destruction along east Asia, South America, and Africa. From then on the capitalist class has had direct and open control of the state rather than working from being behind the scenes. The state(and this could be said for any capitalist state) functions as the executive branch for the capitalist class.

[sdv]

Corruption and brutality is everywhere, as is the suffering they cause. The USA is just the biggest bully as it has the most weapons, a large economy, a population brainwashed into believing that America is the biggest, the best, the leader of the free world, and so on. Bullies elsewhere do exist, but they threaten and abuse the local population. Bully USA threatens the whole world, aided by its sidekicks (UK, Australia, etc).

I see you are in the UK, bogeyman. The media and public are not as inward looking as in USA, but rather close. Unfortunately, unless something directly affects your interests, you are unlikely to hear about it.

So, I think that it for those two reasons that it seems as if 'everyone is picking on poor America' and why local bullies don't attract much attention internationally.