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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Quote Posted by Tangri (here)
    Definitely something happened but presentations are fishy.

    It happened January 31, 2012 regarding this video

    In internet, tweeter age we are hearing February 13, 2013 and mass media today Feb 15 2013.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5xMYRBpLSI

    In RT reporting they used same video with different time log tag 2:48

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=U_uxeScezRw

    Maybe this is Russian version of Sandy hook with different motive.

    Probably Russians decided to disclose something in their term and USA agreed 2 days latter.
    There may be a straightforward explanation; Not everyone bothers (knows how) to set the date on their phone/camera etc.
    If you check RT news video you would see the same footage with original different tag.

    I am staying with my "Probably Russians decided to disclose something in their term and USA agreed 2 days latter. reserve.
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    Divers scour Russian lake after meteor hurts 1,200
    AFP Updated February 17, 2013, 4:13 am

    http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/1...r-hurts-1-200/

    MOSCOW (AFP) - Divers scoured the bottom of a Russian lake on Saturday for fragments of a meteorite that plunged to Earth in a blinding fireball whose shockwave injured 1,200 people and damaged thousands of homes.

    The 10-tonnes meteor streaked across the Urals region on Friday just as the world braced for a close encounter with a large asteroid that left some Russian officials calling for the creation of a global system of space object defence.

    The unpredicted meteor strike ground traffic to a halt in the industrial city of Chelyabinsk as residents poured out on the streets to watch the light show before hovering for safety when a sonic boom rang out directly overhead.

    Shattered glass caused most of the injuries. Doctors said some sustained more serious wounds from doors that were blasted off hinges and ceiling collapses. About 50 people were recovering in hospitals early Saturday.

    Officials counted 2,962 buildings ranging from hospitals and schools to regular households suffering from shattered glass and cracked walls.

    "We have a special team working... that is now assessing the seismic stability of buildings," Emergencies Minister Vladimir Puchkov told residents as he inspected the damage in the central Russian city.

    "We will be especially careful about switching the gas back on," he said in televised remarks.

    A piece of the meteor -- called a meteorite once it hits the ground -- was believed to have plunged into the Chelyabinsk region's frozen Lake Chebarkul.

    But the six divers who searched its waters for three hours on Saturday were able to finding nothing but mud and silt.

    "They immediately discovered that the water's visibility was zero and that the bottom was covered with 1.5 metres (five feet) of sticky mud," a recovery team member told Russian media.

    The emergencies minister stressed that no meteorite fragments had been discovered anywhere in the region so far despite some 20,000 rescuers and recovery workers being dispatched to the region on Friday.

    The meteor explosion appears to be one of the most stunning cosmic events above Russia since the 1908 Tunguska Event in which a massive blast most scientists blame on an asteroid or a comet ripped through Siberia.

    Scientists at the US space agency NASA estimated that the amount of energy released in the atmosphere was about 30 times greater than the force of the nuclear bomb dropped on the Japanese city of Hiroshima during World War II.

    "We would expect an event of this magnitude to occur once every 100 years on average," said Paul Chodas of NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office.

    "When you have a fireball of this size we would expect a large number of meteorites to reach the surface and in this case there were probably some large ones," he said in a statement published on the NASA website.

    The drama in Russia developed just hours before an asteroid -- a space object similar to a tiny planet orbiting the sun -- whizzed safely past Earth at the unprecedented distance of 17,200 miles (27,000 kilometers).

    That put it closer to the ground then some distant satellites and sent off alarm bells ringing in some Russian circles about this being the time for joint global action on the space safety front.

    "Instead of fighting on Earth, people should be creating a joint system of asteroid defence," the Russian parliament's foreign affairs committee chief Alexei Pushkov wrote on his Twitter account late Friday.

    "Instead of creating a (military) European space defence system, the United States should join us and China in creating the AADS -- the Anti-Asteroid Defence System," the close ally of President Vladimir Putin wrote.

    The US space agency said the 2012 DA 14 asteroid's passing was "the closest-ever predicted approach to Earth for an object this large."

    NASA estimates that a smallish asteroid such as the 2012 DA 14 flies close to Earth every 40 years on average while only hitting the planet once every 1,200 years.

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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

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    Finding the perp must be a piece of cake, look for a guy with really big hands.
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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    Now it appears that the "crater" in the lake wasn't actually a crater.

    Quote 18:40 GMT: The search for the meteorite parts at Chebarkul Lake and at other two locations has officially been stopped. The huge ice hole found at the lake on Friday “has formed because of a different reason,” the Vice-Governor of Chelyabinsk region Igor Murog told Interfax-Ural.
    ...
    07:58 GMT: No meteorite fragments were found at the bottom of Chebarkul Lake, says the Emergencies Ministry. A lack of underwater visibility, as well as a thick – up to 1.5 meters – layer of ooze were cited as the main reasons for failure. Six divers spent three hours searching for solid objects in the mud but finally gave up. Water samples taken from the lake have also shown nothing unusual.
    Source.
    Hmmmm... Distraction anyone? The game the entire family can play!
    There were reports of military personnel wearing protective suits near suspected fall sites, yet in the photo of the "crater" they weren't.

    So...
    Was the meteor a meteor?
    Why the conflicting reporting as to whether or not it was shot at by the Russian military?
    Maybe if the military say they did then could that be opening them up to compensation claims, create a negative image in the minds of the Russian public or something else along those line?
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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    20,000 rescuers seems a bit over the top as well ?

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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    20,000 rescuers seems a bit over the top as well ?
    I thought that as well, though to be fair what was said was they had 20,000 emergency personnel on stand-by.
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    The only consequence is what we do."

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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    Russian Meteor Blast Bigger Than Thought, NASA Says


    By Tariq Malik | SPACE.com – 3 hrs ago



    The meteor that exploded over Russia Friday was slightly larger than previously thought and more powerful, too, NASA scientists say.

    The Russian meteor explosion over the city of Chelyabinsk, on Friday (Feb. 15), injured more than 1,000 people and blew out windows across the region in a massive blast captured on cameras by frightened witnesses. Friday afternoon, NASA scientists estimated the meteor was space rock about 50 feet (15 meters) and sparked a blast equivalent of a 300-kiloton explosion. The energy estimate was later increased to 470 kilotons.

    But late Friday, NASA revised its estimates on the size and power of the devastating meteor explosion. The meteor's size is now thought to be slightly larger — about 55 feet (17 m) wide — with the power of the blast estimate of about 500 kilotons, 30 kilotons higher than before, NASA officials said in a statement. [See video of the intense meteor explosion]

    The meteor was also substantially more massive than thought as well. Initial estimated pegged the space rock's mass at about 7,000 tons. Scientists at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., now say the meteor weighed about 10,000 tons and was travelling 40,000 mph (64,373 km/h) when it exploded.

    "These new estimates were generated using new data that had been collected by five additional infrasound stations located around the world - the first recording of the event being in Alaska, over 6,500 kilometers away from Chelyabinsk," JPL officials explained in the statement. The infrasound stations detect low-frequency sound waves that accompany exploding meteors, known as bolides.

    The meteor entered Earth's atmosphere and blew apart over Chelyabinsk at 10:20 p.m. EST on Feb. 14 (03:20:26 GMT on Feb. 15). The meteor briefly outshined the sun during the event, which occurred just hours before a larger space rock — the 150-foot-wide (45 meters) asteroid 2012 DA14 — zoomed by Earth in an extremely close flyby.

    Asteroid 2012 DA14 approached within 17,200 miles (27,000 kilometers) of Earth Friday, but never posed an impact threat to the planet. The asteroid flyby and Russian meteor explosion had significantly different trajectories, showing that they were completely unrelated events, NASA officials said.

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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    Here's an image, from 'Weather sattelite Meteosat 10', of the meteor entering the atmosphere:



    This image is part of a 16th February news article from RT on the meteor that also reflects the yahoo news story:
    Russian meteorite blast explained: Fireball explosion, not meteor shower

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    "A meteor and asteroid: 1 in 100 million odds", says a CNN's news article (http://edition.cnn.com/2013/02/16/op...html?hpt=hp_t4).
    In my personal opinion, three possible explanations:

    1. Yes, it was a coincidence, "1 in 100 million odds", as CNN said.

    2. Although, as NASA and some astronomers have said, the meteor and the asteroid came from different directions, they could be related to the same astronomical mechanics, but, to date, maybe neither NASA nor other astronomers are aware of the relation (but, as they study further in the following days, a relation may be found).

    3. Some "unknown mechanism", forced the meteor to happen the same day, without causing fatalities. The reason? (To give us a hint -thorough an almost impossible coincidence- about some real threat coming?) The mechanism? (ET's, black op done by humans?)

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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    Looks like something went through the metorite..Perhaps shoot at by something... Good video evidence IMO...

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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    Not much information available on the Cuban fireball from Wednesday.

    The only video that seems half plausible is this one:

    There are a number of other videos on Youtube that say they're depicting the Cuban fireball from Wednesday, however it seems they are from Guadalajara City in Mexico on 22/09/2006 (see here).

    Here's a news report (in Spanish I think) that's about the Cuban fireball:


    I think this article is referring to the above video (can anyone confirm?):
    Cuba, too, reports powerful meteorite explosion
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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    Quote Posted by Earthship (here)
    "A meteor and asteroid: 1 in 100 million odds"
    I'm guessing that there are a bazillion things that could happen, each of which has millions to one odds against it happening ... and that a few of those ever so unlikely events happen every day .

    I'm merging this thread in with the main thread on this meteor and related events.

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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    Its most likely the long anticipated arrival of the anti-Christ.

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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    Here is a good video of the Cuban Fireball/ Meteor

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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    Quote Posted by Referee (here)
    Here is a good video of the Cuban Fireball/ Meteor

    That's the video I was referring to above that's from Guadalajara City in Mexico on 22/09/2006 .

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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    My bad I will have to tell the source thanks and nice catch!!
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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    The Google translation, from Russian into English, of Interfax reported the following (from a report dated the 15th February):

    Quote Two fragments of a meteorite found in Chebarkul - one in Zlatoust, Chelyabinsk region near

    Three large fragments of the fall of a meteorite found in the Chelyabinsk region, "Interfax" on Friday, the press center of the Russian Interior Ministry.

    "At this point in the operative staff has been informed about the discovery of three seats falling wreckage of a celestial body," - said the press center.

    He said that the two fragments were found in the area Chebarkulsky Chelyabinsk region, another - in Zlatoust.
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    Gotta love that google translation software 'discovery of three seats falling wreckage'
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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    Here's some video that is reported to be from different sites in Japan showing a fireball on the 14th February.
    Don't know if it's authentic but seems harmless enough:

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    Default Re: The Russian Chelyabinsk Meteor of Feb 2013

    Another version of the one over Japan on 14 FEB 2013


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