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    Default Re: christian fanatics forcing their beliefs on children!!!!

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    Well, I respect your view. it's OK if you feel religious fundamentalism isn't that much important. I do totally disagree though

    If one of these children was mine, it would turn into the most important problem in my hands.

    Namaste, Steven
    Apart from all the very important issues, past and present ...the children are our future...these are the minds that will shape the next phase in global matters and general humanity issues, Its a matter of 'their perception of reality' from the information they are given that will determine the future...and that is our job, to insure they are aware and well equipped to discern and go forth towards a better existence...a mammoth task it is, but one that is extremely important to our growth as Human beings and our direct connection to this Planet.

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    Default Re: christian fanatics forcing their beliefs on children!!!!

    I'd also like to add that generally at the root of all these larger problems is people. If we are shaped to be intolerant, ignorant, conformists, etc etc, that is what usually leads us to the larger atrocities. My two cents anyways.

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    then why did you not all post on the thread someone started a while ago about children being stolen by the state & turned over, often, to pedophiles? i bumped it w/a link to David Icke's speech at the rally about this-- i don't recall anyone who posted on this thread having paid any attention to that one

    & how many of you who have posted here signed the petition for justice for Holly Grieg that i also posted a link to? i signed -- did you?

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    Well I speak for myself...I dont get to read all of the threads, As a Mod Im all over the joint...

    Sorry wynderer....I will try to read more than I aready do.

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    Quote Posted by Ross (here)
    Well I speak for myself...I dont get to read all of the threads, As a Mod Im all over the joint...

    Sorry wynderer....I will try to read more than I aready do.

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    surely you know about Holly Grieg? & about the state, in GB & in the USA, taking children away on flimsy pretexts? or is this new to you?

    & all you others who posted, w/your concern about children -- i'm presuming you know about Holly Grieg? & have signed the petition? David Icke has done a LOT to bring her case to public attention -- he also posted the videos that are the topic of this thread & have you all so riled up, but they are in the context of his much greater , deeper, & wider concern for children -- he's had videos about the child soldiers too, for instance

    & just wondering why the title of this thread drew you all here, but not the title of the one about children being stolen by the state -- a good chance for you all to learn something about yourselves by answering this honestly to yourself -- if you want to
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    Quote Posted by wynderer (here)
    then why did you not all post on the thread someone started a while ago about children being stolen by the state & turned over, often, to pedophiles? i bumped it w/a link to David Icke's speech at the rally about this-- i don't recall anyone who posted on this thread having paid any attention to that one

    & how many of you who have posted here signed the petition for justice for Holly Grieg that i also posted a link to? i signed -- did you?
    I didn't see this thread. And I am not aware of Holly Grieg. But I worked 4 years in Amazonas Brazil and a part of my work was with street kids. We choose our fights since we can not fight them all.

    Namaste, Steven

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    Quote Posted by Steven (here)
    I didn't see this thread. And I am not aware of Holly Grieg. But I worked 4 years in Amazonas Brazil and a part of my work was with street kids. We choose our fights since we can not fight them all.

    Namaste, Steven
    sorry -- i assumed that mods paid more attention -- i did when i was one on another forum

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    As all the MODS are volunteers, with children, jobs and general dealing with life outside the forum, They give all the attention they can, and I for one am most grateful for their contribution to this forum.



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    Default Re: christian fanatics forcing their beliefs on children!!!!

    some of the rapist pedophiles probably are nominal Christians -- they might even talk in tongues & get their kids to -- satanists hide as Christians as well as all in other religions -- so i hope this is OK to post here -- for all who've posted here expressing concern for the souls of children, here's your chance to DO something!

    link to sign the petition at the bottom

    http://holliegreig.info/

    The Petition

    We the Undersigned Petition for Redress for and in behalf of Holly Greig and Robert Green from the People of Scotland.

    WHEREAS:

    1. Holly Greig ( a little Downs Syndrome Girl) and 7 Other Known Victims were systematically raped and tortured by a known Pedophile Ring.

    2. Said Pedophile Ring Included Social Workers, Politicians and Educators, some of the Leading men and women of Scotland.

    3. Robert Green was jailed for reporting the story to the public

    4. The Uncle of Holly Greig was brutally murdered with what appears to be an ax handle and found dead in a burning car that appears to be arson after he reportedly walked in on Holly being sexually assaulted by her father.

    5. Scottish Lord Advocate, Elish Angiolini, has illegally used her influence to shut down any investigation and publicity of the Holly Greig case.

    6. The Law firm of Levy & McRae has illegally sought to intimidate and influence witnesses and Robert Green for reporting the matter.

    7. Alex Salmond, First Minister of Scotland has been made aware of Angiolini's methods and has failed to act in a way conducive to justice in these cases.

    8. The members of Scotland's Parliament have also been made aware of these injustices and have failed to take any action.

    9. Scottish Law Enforcement has been well aware of these injustices and has failed to take any action against the perpetrators

    Therefore:

    We the Undersigned petition the People of Scotland:

    1. To seek redress for and in behalf of Holly Greig

    2. To seek a vote of "No-Confidence" in the current administration.

    3. To seek to establish a new administration that will pursue Justice for both Holly Greig and the other 7 victims of pedophilia.

    4. To seek Justice and Relief for noted Journalist, Robert Green.

    5. To seek a removal of the Muzzle Order on Mr. Green.

    6. To permit Mr. Green the opportunity to actually enter the district where he is running for political office.

    7. To seek prosecution of those individuals responsible for the murder of a witness in this investigation and those that have impeded the search for Justice.

    8. To seek a break-up of the monopoly that Levy & McRae currently have over the Scottish Legal System.

    9. To seek sanctions against Levy and McRae for interfering in the Freedom of the Press and the intimidation of witnesses in a criminal matter.

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/o...reen-petition/

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