How is this possible??? (U.S. economy and stock market)

[jagman]

I have been listening to economic reports all morning. The United States economy grew in the fourth quarter.The stock market is close to a all time high!
Apparently our crashed housing market has some how managed to take off like a bottlle rocket. My spidey sense is really starting to alarm me.


At the end of this year, the United States will owe 17 Trillion dollars in debt! The United States unfunded liability ( What we really Owe!) Is estimated at 100 Trillion!


This violates laws of math,nature and common sense!

[Fred Steeves]

" Political language. . . is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind".

George Orwell

[humanalien]

I woke up around 9:45am today. At 10am, i
turned on fox news. The dow was at 126 points.

About an hour and a half later, i looked at the dow
again and it was at around 26 points. Somewhere
in between 10am and 11am, the dow must have
went down below 26 points because it showed the
dow going back up at 26 points. It ended at 20.88 points.

Tomorrow should be an interesting day watching the
stock market. I bet the dow will shoot way up there.

[WhiteFeather]

Its just a ride and an illusion. This sh!ts gonna crumble real soon. The monopoly money printing press is getting old and showing signs of weakness as it heads into the final round of the proverbial boxing match. The game is stagnant and has been played out way too long by the Banksters. They are running out of moves. The stock market is a lie and is ready to take a real good healthy bowel movement. Keep Notice the petrol dollar rising...pay attention to it. This is the stockmarkets and economical life preserver. And The life preserver is too small to rescue this catastrophe. The damage is done. The snake is beginning to swallow its own tail.

[ghostrider]

tommorrow we will get the catastrophe averted spill from the talking heads... like they were ever going to let anything fail ...

[ceetee9]

Posted by jagman (here)
At the end of this year, the United States will owe 17 Trillion dollars in debt! The United States unfunded liability ( What we really Owe!) Is estimated at 100 Trillion!


This violates laws of math,nature and common sense!

It's even worse than that Jagman. We're currently at 122.9 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities which is about 30 trillion more than the total national assets. But don't panic yet, each taxpayer's liability is only a little over 1 million dollars. I'll probably send my check in with my IRS returns this year. How about you Jagman?
US National Debt Clock

[jagman]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
Its just a ride and an illusion. This sh!ts gonna crumble real soon. The monopoly money printing press is getting old and showing signs of weakness as it heads into the final round of the proverbial boxing match. The game is stagnant and has been played out way too long by the Banksters. They are running out of moves. The stock market is a lie and is ready to take a real good healthy bowel movement. Keep Notice the petrol dollar rising...pay attention to it. This is the stockmarkets and economical life preserver. And The life preserver is too small to rescue this catastrophe. The damage is done. The snake is beginning to swallow its own tail.

WhiteFeather,That was priceless lol

[jagman]

Posted by ceetee9 (here)

Posted by jagman (here)
At the end of this year, the United States will owe 17 Trillion dollars in debt! The United States unfunded liability ( What we really Owe!) Is estimated at 100 Trillion!


This violates laws of math,nature and common sense!

It's even worse than that Jagman. We're currently at 122.9 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities which is about 30 trillion more than the total national assets. But don't panic yet, each taxpayer's liability is only a little over 1 million dollars. I'll probably send my check in with my IRS returns this year. How about you Jagman?
US National Debt Clock

Yeah the check is in the mail.

[puurfectten]

Posted by humanalien (here)
I woke up around 9:45am today. At 10am, i
turned on fox news. The dow was at 126 points.

About an hour and a half later, i looked at the dow
again and it was at around 26 points. Somewhere
in between 10am and 11am, the dow must have
went down below 26 points because it showed the
dow going back up at 26 points. It ended at 20.88 points.

Tomorrow should be an interesting day watching the
stock market. I bet the dow will shoot way up there.

lol...should follow through to the downside..maybe after a lottle pop if it even gets that..if the sell wave follows through it should take us to spx 1395ish or - around 1000 dow pts ..

[puurfectten]

the funny thing about the economy and the markets is that all the economic reports are bs..and the markets have nothing to do with the economy..so its kinda like double bs..twice removed....

[Maknocktomb]

Wall Street is going through another bubble for the Banksters to steal more wealth. Main Street continues to suffer with no benefit from the stock market. The American motto is work harder, make less and pay more for everything.

[puurfectten]

Posted by Maknocktomb (here)
Wall Street is going through another bubble for the Banksters to steal more wealth. Main Street continues to suffer with no benefit from the stock market. The American motto is work harder, make less and pay more for everything.

i totally agree with the second part of what u said...but anyone who takes the time to learn how it works can also benefit from the markets..don't get me wrong..i do condemn the greedy bastards...but no one has to be a victim financially from their behavior....

[jagman]

I wonder who is really buying all those houses? This whole thing smells like a dead fish!

[Kristin]

It's as though the stock market has taken a step into the virtual world. Nothing based on reality, all crap based on virtual money and virtual holdings. I've noticed these trends before major events... it's interesting to see who the short term gainer's are on this... any thoughts?

From the Heart,
Kristin

Ps, Jag I'm glad you're here, always!

[Fractalius]

That investor too, the one that supposedly has placed 12 million against the market moving 200 points or whatever it was. Which thread was that mentioned in I forget? There was a date involved too.


Also, any links, there is no 'reporting' of this yet?

[mgray]

Posted by jagman (here)
I have been listening to economic reports all morning. The United States economy grew in the fourth quarter.The stock market is close to a all time high!
Apparently our crashed housing market has some how managed to take off like a bottlle rocket. My spidey sense is really starting to alarm me.


At the end of this year, the United States will owe 17 Trillion dollars in debt! The United States unfunded liability ( What we really Owe!) Is estimated at 100 Trillion!


This violates laws of math,nature and common sense!

Let's take it one by one.
The economy grew 0.025 percent in Q4. That means nothing for all the holiday shopping. The only thing it says is that without Uncle Sam spending there is no GDP. Gov't spending slashed after the election.
And the stock market is not the economy. The Fed pumps in almost $4B a day through QE. It has to go somewhere.

US housing market is only 39 percent back from 2006 levels.

So your thinking is spot on. It is the noise of the news that is off.

[sirdipswitch]

I been hearin this very same scenario, since I was in high school. Horse Pucky.

Here's an indicator, that most don't pay attention to. The elite start puting thier Family Estates on the market, to "Liquidate" assets. (Because they're scared, and they know what's commin) The little people who watch this sort of thing, panic, and start selling stock. The market takes a nose dive. The elite quietly start buying everything they can get thier grubby little hands on, and then take those Family homes back off the market, the stock market suddenly rallies, and they make even more money than they had before, and the only ones that lose are those little people who thought they knew what was goin on. ccccc.

[Prodigal Son]

yep, $122 trillion is more like it.... might as well make it a hundred quintillion... it's all Ponzi and extortion "owed" to the banksters and they'll never see a dime of it.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GFdYT8OI6b0

[Camilo]

Smoke mirrors before the great fall.

[Lone Bean]

I am far from understanding most anything about the stock market, but I do know that as long as Ben Bernanke keeps artificially injecting billions and billions into it it will "appear" to be somewhat o.k., even if there is no growth. Also, keep in mind that much of any rise in it is due to the massive layoffs and downsizing of companies. They save ("earn") money by not paying employee salaries. It's not what it appears to be at all. About the only indicator I actually believe to a true and accurate assessment of what is going on with our economy is the "Baltic Dry Index". It went up about 12 points today but it is still at a very critical LOW level of only 757. This index is the real indicator of raw goods being shipped across the oceans for manufacturing. If very little is being shipped, then there is very little manufacturing and very little being purchased. Here is the website that I like to use:

http://www.wikinvest.com/index/Balti...I_%28BALDRY%29