Pulling root canal tooth... need advice!

[Abhaya]

I am thinking seriously about having my ten year old root canal tooth pulled. At this point it is not causing me any pain, however I have read article after article stating that it is only a matter of time until they start leeching the worst of toxins into your body. I have been on the cusp of having this done many times. And I really feel like my body is telling me to get rid of it. The problem is I will not have money to pay for a insert or bridge to correct the resultent gap (2nd to last molar). And am considering doing nothing after the tooth is pulled... I understand what will happen is the back most molar will slowly begin to lean into the gap. And over a long long time the tooth above will begin to grow since the missing tooth wont wear it down any more. I can deal with this I think. But I would really really love and appreciate any advice from all any one and everyone. Thanks you to anyone who takes any time on this thread

[Daughter of Time]

I understand your concern.

I have two root canals and I am concerned about mine also and the ill effects they can have on one's health.

A few years ago I started seeing a holistic dentist. Expensive? Yes! But worth it if at all possible.

My holistic dentist rarely performs root canals because she agrees they are bad and everthing possible should be done before such a procedure. She uses laser therapy to avoid root canals. But for those who have already had root canals before they see her, she injects ozone into the root canal. The ozone kills bacteria, molds, fungii and parasites produced by root canals. I have ozone shot into my root canals every 6 months. It's around $60.00 per tooth.

If this sounds like a potential solution for you and you can find a holistic dentist in your area, then I think perhaps you owe it to yourself to investigate before making a final decision on the matter.

May you make the best decision for you.

Good luck!

[ThePythonicCow]

I am in the process of having my half dozen root canal treated teeth removed. Four out, two to go. I had had them for one to several decades, and they were becoming infected. One was particularly bad, and I have felt much better since having it removed. The toxins from the infection were apparently what was destroying my hearing (my ears are my weak link.) I was also getting a bit of mental fog, making it more difficult to say focused when driving ... got in one minor car accident that way. There were no local symptoms of any problem, no pain or swelling or anything. Just the problems elsewhere in my body from the toxic overload.

Fortunately I've been able to afford bridges where needed so far.

A key thing to focus on is getting a dentist who will aggressively clean out the socket, after removing the tooth, including an extra millimeter of good bone to be sure. Just pulling a tooth likely won't fix the problem.

[Kiforall]

I had the first lower molar removed 14yrs ago because I couldn't afford root canal work.
The gap hasn't been a problem what so ever, no teeth have leaned into the gap and I've just had a good look and the upper tooth is still level with the others. Which I'm quite happy about because my dentist never warned me that that could happen.

[vilcabamba]

I removed 8 mercury fillings. Prior to this i had all my teeth. Due to the stress of removing the mercury i lost two teeth in the back. To be honest..i was sooo upset at both having to be removed due to the infection from having my mercury removed. But..to be honest..i don't really notice it. You really can't tell that much of a difference. You just get used to it and it doesn't bother you at all. My mom removed her root canal teeth after getting a cancer diagnosis. And she doesn't have problems either with eating. She is doing well now after 6 years, and no signs of cancer 6 years later after all natural treatments.

[Carmody]

I do the waterpik with MMS trick to kill infections between teeth, and down into the gums.

I think that it may also help here.

[GarethBKK]

Pull away! Teeth are over-rated. My liquidizer is my best friend.

Had a very expensive bridge which I swallowed with a cheese sandwich :-(

[GlassSteagallfan]

Posted by Paul (here)

A key thing to focus on is getting a dentist who will aggressively clean out the socket, after removing the tooth, including an extra millimeter of good bone to be sure. Just pulling a tooth likely won't fix the problem.

Paul, why the extra bone? Do you mean part of the jaw bone?
Thx

[wolf_rt]

I wouldn't worry about the hole. my upper tooth has moved down a little, but it causes no problems, and it causes me no issues with eating.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by GlassSteagallfan (here)

Posted by Paul (here)

A key thing to focus on is getting a dentist who will aggressively clean out the socket, after removing the tooth, including an extra millimeter of good bone to be sure. Just pulling a tooth likely won't fix the problem.

Paul, why the extra bone? Do you mean part of the jaw bone?
Thx

Yes, I mean the bones that surrounded the tooth socket.

One wants to be sure to have removed all the infected bone, so one goes to good bone and a smidgen more.

If this would remove too much bone and risk weakening the jaw bone ... well hopefully your dentist knows more about what he's doing that I do .

[Lifebringer]

Tooth 13 upper, and before I could finish the proceedure because of finances, 3 weeks later it broke anyway. Had it removed. NO problems.

[Abhaya]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by GlassSteagallfan (here)

Posted by Paul (here)

A key thing to focus on is getting a dentist who will aggressively clean out the socket, after removing the tooth, including an extra millimeter of good bone to be sure. Just pulling a tooth likely won't fix the problem.

Paul, why the extra bone? Do you mean part of the jaw bone?
Thx

Yes, I mean the bones that surrounded the tooth socket.

One wants to be sure to have removed all the infected bone, so one goes to good bone and a smidgen more.

If this would remove too much bone and risk weakening the jaw bone ... well hopefully your dentist knows more about what he's doing that I do .

So it's possible the bone can become infected from contact with the tooth and said infection could continue to spread after the tooth is removed? Also any one have any price estimated for removing a root canal tooth vs a regular tooth.

Wow thanks for all the advice. I'm confident now to get this toxic trap out of my mouth!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Abhaya (here)
So it's possible the bone can become infected from contact with the tooth and said infection could continue to spread after the tooth is removed?

From what I've read, it's likely that infection from root canal treated teeth will eventually spread out into the bone, yes.

Posted by Abhaya (here)
Also any one have any price estimated for removing a root canal tooth vs a regular tooth.

I don't know. I suspect that you won't find a published price difference, but that rather you will find it more difficult to find a dentist who routinely cleans out the socket properly after removing an infected tooth, and that such a dentist can and will likely charge more.

[foreverfan]

2000-5000mg of vitamin C daily will get rid of most tooth infections. If you have root canals, this is highly recommended by my dentist friend. I take this dosage since it helps just about everything.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zUpTK5YMt6o

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[Bill Ryan]

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I had a molar root canal treatment 20 years ago, and 10 years ago was in line to have another. The holistic dentist I visited, in Edinburgh, did something extraordinary: she personally lent me a book of hers, urged me to read it overnight, and asked me to come back the next day. She said she would then do whatever I chose.

I read the book. It was about the work of Dr Weston Price. Search for "WESTON PRICE" + "ROOT CANAL TREATMENT".

What I should do became obvious. I asked her to remove both teeth (the one that had had the root canal treatment 10 years before, and the one that was now problematic).

The scientific evidence was overwhelming that root canal treatments can at least sometimes lead to serious chronic illness. It's all documented.

I've never missed the teeth, and have remained absolutely certain that I made the right decision.

[DeDukshyn]

I'd get it pulled. If a tooth can be fixed simply and within reason. IMHO a root canal is not a reasonable solution at all - teeth are supposed to be alive - a root canal kills the tooth anyway by cutting off its blood supply. No sense in keeping dead teeth in your mouth. I am fortunate to have good teeth -- and I attribute that to the lack of dentists in my life (all visits in my 38 years can be counted on one hand).

[Abhaya]

I'm staying in Houston right now working the Houston rodeo. Right across the street from the Texas school of dentistry. I think I'm going to try to get it done there. While the procedures are done by dental students they are overseen by top specialists. And the cost is much cheaper. Can't wait to get this thing out! Thanks everybody. Wish I had done this sooner!

[blufire]

Just like amalgam fillings that contain mercury this topic of root canals has taken off and both true and misinformation has been rampantly spread. While I do believe all amalgams (mercury) fillings should be removed . . . I had mine removed . . . . I do not believe in the current fad of removing teeth that have root canals in them. If the tooth is causing no pain then leave it be.

I would like to offer a view from the ‘other’ side of this topic, the side of the actual medical dental field. Also, I have three root canals and have had them for around 20 years. My root canals have caused me absolutely no problem, infection or pain.

I worked in the dental field for several years as a dental assistant. I was the one sitting on the other side of the patient from the doctor assisting him in all dental procedures . . . .which included hundreds of root canal procedures. As the assistant I was also responsible for ordering all supplies for the office and laboratories.

The main thing needed to fill the canals of the tooth after the nerve and infected tissue was remove are tiny long slivers of pure silver (99.9 %). These silver slivers were sized according to the size of the canal in the tooth. When the dentist found the best size for the tooth canal I then mixed a type of cement that the sliver was rolled in and this was inserted into the tooth. An x-ray was taken to make sure the canals were correctly and completely filled and then the tooth was temporarily sealed for a wait of about 1 to 2 months, if the patient was relieved from all pain from the infected or broken tooth then the tooth was prepared for a crown and all is well.

There are other alternatives to using ‘silver’ for filling the root canals and I suspect this is the problem for some patients . . . .unlike the silver the alternative are thin ‘plastic’ fillers that are difficult to use and properly insert. Ask for the silver root canal fillers.

I also suspect that for many they do not care properly for a tooth that has had a root canal like not having a crown placed over the tooth or not properly flossing and brushing around the crown which then sets up decay and infection which quickly explodes into major systemic infection when it is trapped under the crown of the root canal tooth. Because the tooth is “dead” you feel no pain and so the infection can fester for years before the tooth becomes so decayed it breaks off. So you body is constantly fighting a low grade infection.

I have noticed and am very surprised over the years of being on the forum how many threads have popped up about the correct way of caring for your teeth and mouth . . . .Illie Pandia comes to mind most recently with infected gums.

Not all dental procedures are bad or a conspiracy . . . .do your homework there are options to jerking out all your teeth.

We are after all a forum the is both spiritual and scientific right?? (banner)

[blufire]

Posted by Abhaya (here)
I'm staying in Houston right now working the Houston rodeo. Right across the street from the Texas school of dentistry. I think I'm going to try to get it done there. While the procedures are done by dental students they are overseen by top specialists. And the cost is much cheaper. Can't wait to get this thing out! Thanks everybody. Wish I had done this sooner!

Oh good lord . . . .that statement is so wrong on many levels. Those who can’t do (many times) . . . . teach and are definitely not specialists.

[Abhaya]

Posted by blufire (here)

Posted by Abhaya (here)
I'm staying in Houston right now working the Houston rodeo. Right across the street from the Texas school of dentistry. I think I'm going to try to get it done there. While the procedures are done by dental students they are overseen by top specialists. And the cost is much cheaper. Can't wait to get this thing out! Thanks everybody. Wish I had done this sooner!

Oh good lord . . . .that statement is so wrong on many levels. Those who can’t do (many times) . . . . teach and are definitely not specialists.

Thanks for the alternate views. I mean if I could leave it that would be the most ideal. There are many testimonies I've seen however where people have no pain yet but do have a large toxic build up. And have other issues as a result of the toxins mental fog hearing loss and more. I feel like if its out, there will be no chance of any down the road toxic build ups at all.

Also thanks for the advice on the dental school. I guess my post sounded like I was promoting them, and I was excited as it sounded like a maybe a good option. But I was hoping for advice on that too. Being that you were in the dental field, are there some horror stories from the dental schools? Any input would be appreciated