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    Default Re: North Korea Nuclear threat?

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    If we are to take seriously that the Global elite dominate space and technology, therefore the Global elite would not be too concerned about obsolete nuclear bombs or missiles.

    Just fear mongering in my opinion.

    Much the same way, as the United States Military would not be too concerned about the Indians launching an attack with bows and arrows.

    I think with the current technology (much of what we are unaware of) nuclear threats are obsolete.
    Yeah how could N.Korea launch any kind of reasonable nuclear attack on the U.S. without being completely decimated in return? How can such an attack be taken too seriously?

    And besides ETs will disarm any nukes before they hit the ground .

    Well, I don´t think any ET will disarm any bomb in case of an attack. If they were willing to intervene on behalf of mankind´s welfare, they would have done it by now and the world wouldn´t be such a mess.

    Anyway, I agree with you about NK; The US intelligence and military capabilities are undoubtedly vastly superior; The whole NK would be glowing in the dark before they even think about typing the launch codes.

    This is pure propaganda.
    Actually they already have done it. There have been reports of nuclear missiles launched, only to have their codes tapped into and disarmed in flight. Bashar also talks about this and explains the reason why. There apparently is evidence that missiles have been de-activated. Some still trapped in the old caveman way of thinking take it as a threat, while in reality they are doing everyone a favour.
    If we want to be enlightened, we need to lighten up

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    Be aware of his "hidden hand"





    "Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws."







    "The Hidden Hand that Shaped History"


    More Hidden hand signs:

    http://www.whale.to/b/hand_sign.html
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    Actually they already have done it. There have been reports of nuclear missiles launched, only to have their codes tapped into and disarmed in flight. Bashar also talks about this and explains the reason why. There apparently is evidence that missiles have been de-activated. Some still trapped in the old caveman way of thinking take it as a threat, while in reality they are doing everyone a favour.
    Yeah...Ask the people from Hiroshima and Nagasaki about that...

    Besides, as far as I can observe, the world is on constant war since WWII; millions of innocent people have been murdered and no ET did anything about it.

    If they are really out there observing Earth they must be ashamed of our behavior and, so far, there´s no evidence showing that they did anything to stop us from killing each other.

    So, if they ever interfere on an eventual future nuclear war, it will be most possibly to protect the planet from annihilation, not the human race.
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    I am surprised so many fall for the world view of the big and strong America trying to do every good for the world, but got harassed by the little evil rogue states. This is so far from the truth.

    The history of the world is that of a few capitalist imperialist states exploiting the rest of the world by every evil means, like invasion and taking their resources and massacring the people (the indigenous for example). Unfortunately not many see this truth because this is not taught at school. This has become alternative history.

    Alternative history says that during the Korean war, the US and ally bombed indiscriminately and destroyed 80% of the towns and cities. North Korea lost 30% of its population as a result. Compared to less than 1% loss for most countries in WW2, this is a real massacre, a holocaust without being recognized. And napalm was used widely and caused extremely painful deaths in the bombings too.

    MSM propaganda wants you to believe North Korea has a ruthless dictator and is on the aggressive again. The world seems to be waiting for him to make the first aggressive move. History and world events aren’t that simple. It is much wiser to ignore who is reported to make the first punch or who is the bad guy. Reckoning that an ant will not make a charge at an elephant is good enough.

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    Default Re: North Korea Nuclear threat?

    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
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    Actually they already have done it. There have been reports of nuclear missiles launched, only to have their codes tapped into and disarmed in flight. Bashar also talks about this and explains the reason why. There apparently is evidence that missiles have been de-activated. Some still trapped in the old caveman way of thinking take it as a threat, while in reality they are doing everyone a favour.
    Yeah...Ask the people from Hiroshima and Nagasaki about that...

    Besides, as far as I can observe, the world is on constant war since WWII; millions of innocent people have been murdered and no ET did anything about it.



    If they are really out there observing Earth they must be ashamed of our behavior and, so far, there´s no evidence showing that they did anything to stop us from killing each other.

    So, if they ever interfere on an eventual future nuclear war, it will be most possibly to protect the planet from annihilation, not the human race.
    Coming from several different sources, I was made to understand that it was actually the "Hiroshima and Nagasaki" bombings that "Alerted" the ET's to the realization that the human race has come to aquire the means to destroy the planet, and so from then on late 40's & on they have made hanging around and observing and even interfering from the sidelines so to speak. I do, however, agree that they are way more concerned about the destruction of the planet itself then us occupants, as yes millions of innocent people have been murdered around the world and ET has not interfered to prevent that sadly.

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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
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    Actually they already have done it. There have been reports of nuclear missiles launched, only to have their codes tapped into and disarmed in flight. Bashar also talks about this and explains the reason why. There apparently is evidence that missiles have been de-activated. Some still trapped in the old caveman way of thinking take it as a threat, while in reality they are doing everyone a favour.
    Yeah...Ask the people from Hiroshima and Nagasaki about that...

    Besides, as far as I can observe, the world is on constant war since WWII; millions of innocent people have been murdered and no ET did anything about it.

    If they are really out there observing Earth they must be ashamed of our behavior and, so far, there´s no evidence showing that they did anything to stop us from killing each other.

    So, if they ever interfere on an eventual future nuclear war, it will be most possibly to protect the planet from annihilation, not the human race.
    Coming from several different sources, I was made to understand that it was actually the "Hiroshima and Nagasaki" bombings that "Alerted" the ET's to the realization that the human race has come to aquire the means to destroy the planet, and so from then on late 40's & on they have made hanging around and observing and even interfering from the sidelines so to speak. I do, however, agree that they are way more concerned about the destruction of the planet itself then us occupants, as yes millions of innocent people have been murdered around the world and ET has not interfered to prevent that sadly.
    Hey mate,

    I have a big problem regarding "sources" of ET related issues; Everybody can say whatever they want about ET´s intentions, plans and whatever.

    Anyway, there´s no way to believe such hypothesis; Before Japan being nuked, the US conducted the Trinity nuclear test in New Mexico, which was the first "official" large scale nuclear detonation and should be more than enough to alert the ETs about human intentions regarding the military use of nuclear energy.

    Since the invention of the nuclear bomb, thousands of nuclear detonation tests were conducted on this planet, 1054 by the US only, including several detonations above Earth´s atmosphere. They were all successful and no ET stopped them.

    So far, no one has shown proper evidence that some ET race do care for us, besides highly questionably channeled materials and completely unverifiable reports and information.

    Raf.
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    Quote Posted by BlueGem (here)
    Of course, Lil Kim will likely be elsewhere if this happens, leaving the innocent slaves of his country to perish.
    Innocent slaves of HIS country????????

    What do you think we are? Might they be more awake than the western majority?

    Maybe it's time to repost this controversial North Korean "Propaganda" documentary:


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=W4DuR...layer_embedded

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    How much do we REALLY know about that country and its leader? My post was only half-joking:

    “There is nobody at the CIA who can tell you more personally about Kim Jong-Un than Dennis Rodman, and that in itself is scary,” said former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Steve Ganyard to ABC when the event broke this weekend.


    To you foreigners and Americans not in tune with the NBA and/or pop culture circa 1990, that's this guy:





    Attention loving "eccentric" basketball star at the end of last century.



    “[Rodman] did everything to buck the system when he played,” Mr. Smith said. Mr. Bayless added, “Dennis always seems to fall into the middle of something, and it goes wrong. It just spins out of control.”

    ....

    Following the interview, Rodman’s planned appearances on various talk-shows this week were subsequently canceled.



    The media is doing everything it can to paint N Korea as bat-**** crazy...
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    Ok thanks for the input so far. I had not seen that Propaganda film, GlassSteagallfan, so thank you.

    I am keen to see how this plays out.
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    Default U.S. sends stealth bombers on practice run to South Korea

    Practice or show of force??

    Two American stealth bombers flew over South Korea in a practice run to drop dummy munitions, the U.S. military announced Thursday. The unusual announcement is expected to further anger North Korea, which issued threats this month over recently completed U.S.-South Korean military exercises.


    American forces said the B-2 Spirit bombers were sent Thursday to South Korea from Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri. Their mission “involved flying more than 6,500 miles to the Korean peninsula, dropping inert munitions on the Jik Do Range, and returning to the continental U.S. in a single, continuous mission,” the U.S. Forces Korea said in its statement.

    The U.S. made its announcement at a time of heightened tensions: In recent weeks, North Korea has threatened missile strikes on the U.S. and South Korea and declared an armistice that stilled the Korean War in 1953 to be void. Pyongyang ramped up its threats in reaction to the joint drills, which a state committee called “the most blatant provocation,” and as it was slapped with additional United Nations sanctions for carrying out its third nuclear test.

    Experts don’t believe North Korea can strike the U.S. mainland, but tensions in the region could erupt into smaller conflicts. In 2010, Pyongyang launched a deadly attack on a South Korean island as South Korean forces held drills nearby; the two Koreas have also clashed at sea.

    In a possible sign that tensions will ease, however, the Associated Press reported that a North Korean industrial plant operated with the help of South Korean staff was operating normally, as North Korea gave the OK for hundreds of South Koreans to cross to the facility.

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    Default Re: U.S. sends stealth bombers on practice run to South Korea

    If those pilots drop bombs on innocent people, Karma will drop bombs on their families... cause and effect... they seal their own doom .. by their actions... I can't take anymore murder, we have allowed enough killing for the last fifty years, what has it gain us ??? NOTHING...
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    Default Re: U.S. sends stealth bombers on practice run to South Korea

    The US knows what it's capable of and Korea knows what the US is capable of, so IMHO this wasn't so much as a dummy run as antagonism.
    North Korea are like a coiled psychotic cat waiting for one tiny move so they can pounce, it's obvious both sides are itching for drama, I just can't quite work out why?

    I can't see either side has anything to gain but lots to loose?

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    Default Re: U.S. sends stealth bombers on practice run to South Korea

    What's the agenda here? Would a war with the North Korea benefit the ptb in any way? I only see a lose-lose situation.
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    What's the agenda here? Would a war with the North Korea benefit the ptb in any way? I only see a lose-lose situation.
    No doubt war is an important instrument used by the PTB to control the world. It is said that both world wars were deliberately started by them. We have witnessed so many wars in the last decades that were so asymmetric that calling them massacres is more appropriate, oddly all reportedly were initiated by the “rogue states”. Now another “rogue state” wants to challenge the mighty US. I would ask, why is an ant charging at an elephant?

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    What's the agenda here? Would a war with the North Korea benefit the ptb in any way? I only see a lose-lose situation.
    No doubt war is an important instrument used by the PTB to control the world. It is said that both world wars were deliberately started by them. We have witnessed so many wars in the last decades that were so asymmetric that calling them massacres is more appropriate, oddly all reportedly were initiated by the “rogue states”. Now another “rogue state” wants to challenge the mighty US. I would ask, why is an ant charging at an elephant?
    It concerns me most that maybe the ant isn't charging the elephant at all, what if the elephant is half way through a game of chess that the ant hasn't even sat down at the table to play?

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    Default Re: U.S. sends stealth bombers on practice run to South Korea

    I have this unsettling feeling that North Korea with it's gung ho, nuke happy leader will be the start of WW3. Even with all the sanctions that has been put in place by the UN, Kim Jong is still making threats everyday. He has so much as said that he will let his people starve before backing down from it's nuke program.

    I will say that if such a disaster as sending a nuclear warhead towards South Korea or even the US, will be short lived.

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    Default Re: U.S. sends stealth bombers on practice run to South Korea

    How ironic ... use stealth technology to demonstrably show some muscle.
    You now only have to say you have done something because nobody is able to verify it.
    How convenient to use for scare tactics

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    Default Re: U.S. sends stealth bombers on practice run to South Korea

    For TPTB wars are a perfect choice.
    They create fear and tension
    They make money for the defence contractors
    They are a means to control
    They are a means to distract
    And they're a great way to keep the population from expanding to rapidly. Along with their other favourite weapons such as man made poverty and diseases.
    Born of frustration.

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    Default US Plans To Intervene In Korea

    By Mort Amsel (Reporter)

    US Plans To Intervene In Korea, 90,000 Soldiers In 56 Days; North Korea Readies Missiles

    " American generals need 56 days and more than two reinforced divisions to resolve the situation in a dilapidated state, "North Brownland", previously controlled by the criminal regime Featuring nuclear weapons. Any similarities with North Korea is probably intentional.

    As revealed portal "Defense News", so in the short run the script and looked large staff exercises at the Pentagon called "Unified Quest", which took place at the beginning of this year.

    The military is not about how to specify the country it was, but journalists are completely confident that practiced to control the situation in North Korea collapsing. Even the maps used in the exercise cage roller throw suspiciously reminiscent of the Korean Peninsula, and U.S. troops set off a share of territory in the south of the peninsula ally.

    When asked by journalists Hix General as to whether the current U.S. forces in South Korea, with a population less than 30,000 people, are insufficient in the face by training, gave evasive answers. - There are sufficient at the moment. Remains an open question whether they will be sufficient if you will need to protect "the lost" nuclear weapons - said General "

    Meanwhile...

    North Korean state media said on Friday that the country’s leader, Kim Jong-un, ordered his missile units to be ready to strike the United States and South Korea, which South Korean officials said could signal either preparations for missile tests or just more blustering.

    Mr. Kim’s order, which North Korea said was given during an emergency meeting early Friday, was similar to the one issued Tuesday when the North’s top military command told all its missile and artillery units to be on the “highest alert” and ready to strike the United States and South Korea in retaliation against their joint military exercises.

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    This may or may not be related, but yesterday, there was a very unusual amount of air traffic. I do not live near an airport that supports jet service. And much of the air traffic consisted of obvious military jets, F14/16 etc. It reminded me of the training I heard in my hometown, at 3 am nightly in the weeks post 911. Although this was daytime. I believe the closest military base is about 100 miles from here. At the time, my immediate thoughts were, hmm what is in our near future.

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