This is unbelievable - Nancy Lieder telling her cult followers to kill their dogs.

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

A friend of mine just sent me this video; I´m speechless.

Nancy Lieder, owner of the website Zetatalk and allegedly an emissary from Zeta extraterrestrials, tells her followers to kill their dogs back in 2003, to spare them from the "end of the world" suffering.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9CIIc3pY51w

Honestly, this is unbelievable! How come this woman is not in jail? How come her website is still up and running? How come people still follow her?

This is beyond crazy...It´s unbelievable. How come people follow and believe such a lunatic?

Someone has to write a book on gullibility...How come someone tells a bunch of people that the world is going to end without showing any evidence, then people believe her somehow and the next day they are killing their dogs? What if she told them to kill their own children, would her followers do it as well? Man! This is beyond comprehension to me.

The honest alternative media representatives have the duty to educate their audience, so they don´t fall for such kind of lunacies.

[WyoSeeker]

The entire Nibiru cataclysm concept was born with this woman as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_cataclysm

[conk]

Well, Jim Jones followers killed their children with the KoolAid, so anything is possible I guess.

[RMorgan]

Posted by WyoSeeker (here)
The entire Nibiru cataclysm concept was born with this woman as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_cataclysm

I didn´t know that, I mean, the "Planet X" term was coined by her? Man!

People talk about "Planet X" here all the time and they don´t even know this whole stuff was fabricated by a delusional psychopathic woman!

It´s funny how some blatant lies invented by complete nut jobs are able to gain huge traction on the alternative media.

Thanks for the info, mate...This is so unbelievable that it looks surreal.

[meat suit]

wow , what a lunatic... she seems quite happy about it all too, judging from the interview...

[4evrneo]

At 1:00 I had to turn it off. Such delusion....

Maybe she will become a politician some day

[niki]

This is another proof that Skepticism and Critical-thinking is highly needed in today's "anything-goes, woo-woo New-Agey spiritualism" post-modern era!

So people won't be too gullible, naive, ignorant, and ultimately foolish into believing anything, without critical discernment and thinking!

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

If it was the end of the world, I'd be happy to own a dog!~

he protects you, warns of danger, finds food, and in a pinch can be lunch.

IMO keep the dog.

[Snookie]

Posted by conk (here)
Well, Jim Jones followers killed their children with the KoolAid, so anything is possible I guess.

Abraham was going to kill Isaac as well. Why would anyone want to worship a "Gawd" who asks you to do that? Well the Mayans & Aztecs did it as well, not to mention the people who sacrificed their children to Moleck (sp), so I guess it's not that strange after all.

[Akasha]

Posted by conk (here)
Well, Jim Jones followers killed their children with the KoolAid, so anything is possible I guess.

Ahhh but did they?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xvfwN3Ekjys

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Pz9K56AxAXc

Sorry Raf.....now back to topic.

[conk]

Forgot to add that I will chose my dogs over most people any time, any place.

Me to my dogs: You stink and eat poop.

They hear: I love you so much!

They hear that because they come from love, are love, and live in the most instant now.

[giovonni]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by WyoSeeker (here)
The entire Nibiru cataclysm concept was born with this woman as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_cataclysm

I didn´t know that, I mean, the "Planet X" term was coined by her? Man!

People talk about "Planet X" here all the time and they don´t even know this whole stuff was fabricated by a delusional psychopathic woman!

It´s funny how some blatant lies invented by complete nut jobs are able to gain huge traction on the alternative media.

Thanks for the info, mate...This is so unbelievable that it looks surreal.

Come on lets get real here people ... The foretelling of the brown dwarf star coming around again, is quite a bit older that anything little old Nancy has put forth via the Zeta group... What pops in at the top of my mind is of course the ancient Sumerian text for a starter...

Note ~ with all the information that has been transmitted and shared (here) via the original and present Avalon Forums over the last five years, i would truly hope those of you that are here (now) sharing would not be so easily persuaded (for or against) such cosmic possibilities... As i have always put forth 'what does your intuitive mind say' ?

So ...if you truly believe nothing is out there then so be it !

Blessings Gio

[RMorgan]

Posted by giovonni (here)
Come on lets get real here people ... The foretelling of the brown dwarf star coming around again, is quite a bit older that anything little old Nancy has put forth via the Zeta group... What pops in at the top of my mind is of course the ancient Sumerian text for a starter...

According to the article posted by WyoSkeer, Sitchin, who was the one who came up with the idea that Nibiru is a planet and home for the Annunaki (based on his very controversial translation methods by the way) never backed up Nancy Lieder´s idea of a cataclysmic event involving Nibiru.

She was the one who used Sitchin´s books to confirm her story, associating Nibiru to Planet X, term coined by her.

This whole stuff gained traction, snowballed out of control and every now and then someone comes up with a new prediction about Planet X/Nibiru.

It´s really funny to know that Planet X, which is a largely used term on the alternative media, was coined by a mad woman.

Anyway, I don´t want to discuss the merit of Sitchin´s works here; It´s a matter of beliefs and discussing beliefs is pointless.

I just think it´s very curious regarding the term "Planet X", I mean, it´s not the first time that I find out that a term frequently used around here was actually born from a delusional fantasy.

That´s it.

[Carmody]

Posted by niki (here)
This is another proof that Skepticism and Critical-thinking is highly needed in today's "anything-goes, woo-woo New-Agey spiritualism" post-modern era!

So people won't be too gullible, naive, ignorant, and ultimately foolish into believing anything, without critical discernment and thinking!

The middle ground tends to be where the discernment can be found. It tends to be the toughest road to walk, as it requires honesty in all points in expression and being.

[giovonni]

Again ~

So ...if you truly believe nothing is out there then so be it !

[Debra]

Posted by conk (here)
Well, Jim Jones followers killed their children with the KoolAid, so anything is possible I guess.

Ahh, I heard a completely different story to this from a US marine co-opted into a covert program during his time in the forces. He told me and another person that the Jim Jones tragedy was set up .. a false flag ..to test something and the victims were homeless people from the streets. He with a number of other operatives were told to wait outside the perimeter of the compound where this all took place and when given the order to move in and clean up. Off topic a little, apologies Raf. But I question always who any of these so called cult leaders are, how they have been formed as humans, what has been their journey in life? What are the defining moments that lead them to such acts?

These days we are more savvy to ask the questions - like with Sandy Hook - is this what we are being told it is?

In this case, who might be standing behind Nancy L.? And for what reason?

[sheme]

I have two dogs-my friends, the little ones who commune with me every day, if the sh*t was about to hit the fan, the peaceful demise of my most faithful friends would be up high on my list, and I wouldn't eat them. My action would hopefully prevent an 'other' from betraying their love and trust of human beings by killing- probably inefficiently and eating them- Tolly tells me he will make them sick- promise! Get real it will be dog eat dog out there!

[giovonni]

Note, i am please to see via the last few post some reason (for) has been restored to this thread ...

So ~ i am out of here

[Hervé]

Both Jim Jones and Nancy Lieder are CIA "assets."

There are enough posts on this forum that have substantiated it... "Search" function could be your friend.

[johnf]

Omg, the lack of concern for cats is appalling!
Maybe that's because dogs are from the pleiades, and cats are from nibiru?

I like the comment about the truth being in the middle from Carmody.
The majority of material that has a source saying it is from offplanet or from another dimension is either ridiculously positive, or ridiculously negative.

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Both Jim Jones and Nancy Lieder are CIA "assets."

There are enough posts on this forum that have substantiated it... "Search" function could be your friend.

I suspect the stuff said about Sitchin's work being deliberate disinfo is part of this mess as well