Especially for women...

[gracieuse]

How your bra may be killing you!

http://www.vivendodaluz.com/EN/articles/bras.html

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And, most cosmetics are full of chemicals and other toxins, some even have heavy metals in them.

Here's an awesome non profit website where you can check out if your product contains any harmful ingredient (search by brand or by ingredient)

http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/

[sheme]

I slung all mine away in 1980 after a vein collapse following a lumpectomy,- no problems ever since. and no groves in my shoulders either.

[gracieuse]

Oh that's interesting, and what about the myth (?) of sagginess? And how did you solve being braless and exercising?

Ive chosen to go in between, I wear bras with only elastic material (wire-free, I have scars from those nasty metal wires ) I do have bra-free days but I feel uncomfy with bumps in the road

Funny story: once in summer, I went running with just a tank top. I ran by a group of workers in the street who were fixing the pavement, and one of them stopped and angrily shouted at me that I should put on a bra. Isn't this hilarious, that being braless can offend the male ego?

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

this thread is epic already and it's only page ONE!

[gracieuse]

[sheme]

I would say as a female that has handled more than my fair share of female breasts,(used to be a Midwife) my wild things compare pretty well to the rest.

I put a Gilet on if I need to spare any ones blushes. So often people stand talking to me with their arms folded tight, they are so embarrassed about the natural form of the female breast, their body language says it all.

When I get on the ride on lawn mower it is usually when no ones around. LOL

As for male ego -probably not the best time for me to answer that as I have just finished watching "Stepford Wives". Laugh out Loud!

[Vitalux]

Posted by gracieuse (here)

Funny story: once in summer, I went running with just a tank top. I ran by a group of workers in the street who were fixing the pavement, and one of them stopped and angrily shouted at me that I should put on a bra. Isn't this hilarious, that being braless can offend the male ego?

If I had my wish I would have had that worker that shouted at you horse whipped.
I believe wholeheartedly that women should be able to go braless, or even go topless in public.

Why women subject themselves to bras, make-up and high heal shoes is kind of odd to me.
If it was fashionable,or a social norm for women to wear a dead chicken on their head would they do it?

[sheme]

Yea but she forgot to mention the fact that one of them smacked him in the eye as she ran past!

laugh please laugh, no horse whipping around here!

[gracieuse]

A much better punishment would be to have him wear a bra for a whole day

You are TOTALLY right about being topless, why should a female chest have any different status than a male chest, which interestingly, changes the moment a woman has to breast-feed?

High-heels, agree also. I cannot get myself to wear those since I've started running barefoot, my toes are changing their position, healing I believe after years of wearing heels.

The only point I see for high heels and make up (natural make up) are for events, like theatre, dance shows, etc, anything that goes along with a costume.

Honestly, I believe most women have such sheep-like mentality that they would wear a dead chicken and ostracise anyone that wouldn't. We've done crazier things than that: convincing women and young girls to have plastic surgery (breast augmentation, vaginal surgery, which is called vaginal rejuvenalisation, sickening really), female circumcision, bound feet, emaciation and other forms of self mutilation. It's the women that press these practices on from generation to generation,

[gracieuse]

Oh yeah and these days even the nipples are shameful things that have to be hidden through padding.

[GloriousPoetry]

The High Priestess takes her
throne and takes back all that
has been taken from her immaculate
form; life as an intimate child of scorn
she rises above society's masculine
tone and embodies all of the divinities
she was born to perform....

[gracieuse]

> awesome!

[Vitalux]

Posted by gracieuse (here)
Oh yeah and these days even the nipples are shameful things that have to be hidden through padding.

I am a amature photographer, so over my life time I had taken hundreds of thousands of images of female models both in studios as well as in the environment.

In some regions such as beaches we have actually been harassed because the model was wearing a bikini that some thought showed too much skin.
Other times we were harassed for the model bearing her breasts in a remote part of a public beach, even though the woman doing all the shouting at her, only was in the company of a full grown man.
I was flabbergasted that I had a woman, shouting at young 20 year old woman on the beach for whose only crime was she had exposed her breasts

Society I am sorry to say, have a long long way to come, and perhaps this is an issue that needs to be addressed more in the media.

I seriously believe that women need to become more empowered, and take an stand to allow this "discrimination" against the human body.

Be proud to have a human body, I think it is absolutely beautiful and there certainly is not anything about the human body that is indecent either.
The sickness in in the mind, not the body.

[RunningDeer]

I've worn the "Moving Comfort Dori" bra for about 5 years. I just discovered it's no longer sold. Here's a video of one that's similar to it with the razor back style. They are well made and offers full support. Really comfortable. No underwire. No shoulder grooves. Fun colors, and last a long, long time if you use cold water and air dry.

Here's a link to a video on the Moving Comfort site with the different styles.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LiT_ogD6HhQ

[Vitalux]

Posted by Paula (here)
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Here's a link to a video on the Moving Comfort site with the different styles.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LiT_ogD6HhQ

I had to laugh in the video when the host of the video said " This bra gives women a natural look"

When in reality, for those who have forgotten
this is what a natural look is

>> natural look << Link to image

**note**
Please be advised that the above link shows two bare breasted women on a beach.
Some viewers on Avalon might find it too disturbing to see a bare chested woman ...why ...I don't know

[Chester]

Posted by gracieuse (here)
How your bra may be killing you!

http://www.vivendodaluz.com/EN/articles/bras.html

¤=[Post Update]=¤

And, most cosmetics are full of chemicals and other toxins, some even have heavy metals in them.

Here's an awesome non profit website where you can check out if your product contains any harmful ingredient (search by brand or by ingredient)

http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/

I never liked bras... nor shaving for that matter... best when natural and unrestricted as "god" made us - justone

Great thread title too - got my immediate attention!

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Vitalux (here)
I had to laugh in the video when the host of the video said " This bra gives women a natural look.

Well you've certainly made you point over and over again, Vitalux. There was a time when sports bras use to make one look flat, bound, disfigured and felt God awful uncomfortable. And for some even...claustrophobic. For the fuller figured people, it's nice to have other options on the thread.

Posted by Vitalux (here)

Posted by Paula (here)
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Here's a link to a video on the Moving Comfort site with the different styles.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LiT_ogD6HhQ

I had to laugh in the video when the host of the video said " This bra gives women a natural look"

When in reality, for those who have forgotten
this is what a natural look is

>> natural look << Link to image

**note**
Please be advised that the above link shows two bare breasted women on a beach.
Some viewers on Avalon might find it too disturbing to see a bare chested woman ...why ...I don't know

[Chester]

Posted by gloriouspoetry (here)
The High Priestess takes her
throne and takes back all that
has been taken from her immaculate
form; life as an intimate child of scorn
she rises above society's masculine
tone and embodies all of the divinities
she was born to perform....

Come over to my house where women RULE!

[gracieuse]

Both Paula and Vitalux are right, in the sense that it's about having a choice to be in our natural state or to wear a bra if we feel it's necessary, and in the latter case, it'd better be a bra that is comfy and does no or limited harm to our pristine chests

[Ellisa]

I remember reading that underwires were suspected of causing too much pressure on breast tissue when incorrectly fitted (and who ever has a bra fitted?) It was then suggested that they may be implicated in breast cancer. It was a long time ago but I have chosen to not wear those incredibly uncomfortable wires ever since. It's a good excuse!

And I am firmly of the opinion that the latest fashion flurry of unsafe, uncomfortable and ultimately unworkable high heeled shoes are a form of modern foot binding --- and look hideous too.