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    I heard that we are really gods. Can someone explain that to me? How are we gods?

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    Default Re: Are we really gods?

    The biggest illusion is separation from the source and all of creation

    is God, which means you and everything else is divine consciousness

    and can be considered God or the source.
    knowledge is key to wisdom as is in keeping an open mind is essential for opening new doors

    you once kept closed .

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    to exist in the form of a tribal religion, where god is proposed and imagined to be separate, is to abrogate responsibility and avoid being responsible for one's actions. Where desires are allowed to run rampant and exceed, nay control and project into all parameters of reasoned intelligence. This is the essence of self delusion.
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    Quote Posted by AMystic3434 (here)
    I heard that we are really gods. Can someone explain that to me? How are we gods?

    I think in a sense...when people are discussing tht we create our own experience/world we are practicing this "godlike" quality. I believe tht a person can work this quality like a muscle to manipulate and create their environment to an extent...the more its practiced, the more precise it can become.

    In another sense i have had visions of godlike beings---nothing like any of the depictions of any angel/god/superhero..etc we have seen from images crammed down our visual throat. The beings were us. So it seems tht i get a glance at something godly but see the clumsy superhero disguised in glasses and a fedora in our world here, lol

    This is my take on are we gods? "Gods" being a word tht is limiting as we all have different perspectives on this subject, but i believe we have the capacity to b so much more tht it would appear to us now to be like gods....
    We X Billions want to change the world and it appears we are......
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    if you say unto this mountain be removed and be cast into the sea , it shall be done, by faith = knowing that your intention in your mind can control to some extent your physical reality around you... the spirit of creation that lives inside you ... the spirit in the flesh, the father in the son , my father in me does the work, the spirit in me does the work, spirit + body = human being , a spirit living in a body, a body with a spirit living inside it ...( the spirit of creation) we all have a measure of the great spirit in us, some have learned to listen to it, work with it, and use it for the good of mankind, others have corrupted it with false teaching, ever wonder why all wars are fought over religion ??? who wouldn't want to control an entire planet of demi-gods ... walking in their power and in their knowing, not believing, or hoping, but knowing ... the bible of most religions have tons of examles of this , it's just the teaching has been corrupted on purpose to enslave the world , making the masses feel helpless and easily controlled by religious leaders ... find and experience the power and love of ONEness , it will change you forever ... the asian way , harmony with body soul and spirit , it's all one, one mind, one spirit , one , same tree , we are just branches , some produce fruit, some provide a resting place for others, some provide shade, some provide shelter, but all are connected to the roots ... a small piece of the big bang , whatever you choose to call it, lives inside you ...we are a piece of creation in a body , for now ... it's important that you get this, it's the reason for being born, to know, to feel , and create, and learn... God is a human term for king of wisdom, remember the tree of knowledge was forbidden , why ? because we must not learn this is NO ledge, knowledge...infinity is possible when there is no-ledge( KNOWLEDGE) OF WHO YOU REALLY ARE ON THE INSIDE ...a spirit in a body , eternal and connected to creation for ever ...
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    I look at it as we are *larval* gods. There is a developmental process going on here, imho. And we have not reached the full expression of who we are yet.

    But first you really have to define what a "god" is.

    Are you talking about personified forces of nature? As living beings, I think we are that. Our choices individually and collectively change things on this planet and we are at a point collectively where we could easily destroy this planet, which we may yet still do.

    Are you talking about beings in various religions like Zeus, Thor, Krishna, Yahweh, etc. And what were they, if not just fictional characters or representations of various things? I think most of them were (and possibly still are because they may well be immortal) essentially real beings or groups of beings from other planets or dimensions (or planets in other dimensions) who possess very amazing genetics, amazing technology, in *some* cases amazing spiritual insight and mental abilities, and great power. Just the technology alone of ETs would convince our ancient ancestors that they were gods. I love to quote the famous line from Arthur C. Clarke, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." By their standards, we today may be considered gods by them with the abilities that we have, even though we aren't immortal.

    But maybe you're really talking about a creator god, a "big G" God, a being capable of thinking a universe into existence? Well, obviously we can't do that. But we are creators, in our humble way, which I feel is an expression of the desire to be like the universal creator who creates the basis for which all other creators on all other levels carry out their forms of creation. We humans create in our little sphere of things. To me, this is training to create on much vaster levels in the future. Today we create webpages, albums, movies, skyscrapers....and tomorrow we create solar systems and ecosystems and maybe even other races of beings....and beyond.
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    The Creator is everything and we are part of everything, like small fragments of God.
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    The Creator is everything and we are part of everything, like small fragments of God.
    Holographic fragments perhaps... in part
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    I heard that we are really gods. Can someone explain that to me? How are we gods?

    Here is my 2 Cents

    One huge pile of conscious energy (GOD) subdivides some of itself into smaller fragments, gives those fragments amnesia, and plays various holographic world simulations to imagine experiences of things.

    You and I are these fragments, and the illusionary world we live in.

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    It's an evolutionary process, and we've got a loooooooong way to go

    Exhibit A


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    If by God you mean something like "the one infinite creator", the answer is yes, we were made in that image.
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    Quote Posted by Prodigal Son (here)
    It's an evolutionary process, and we've got a loooooooong way to go

    Exhibit A

    Some do, but they will get there. Eventually.
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    Firstly, do you really know what/who you really are? For one thing, if you aren’t totally an object then you must be at least partly a subject (or else even “something” partly or wholly beyond both subject and object … ). Problem one: How in the world can you ever begin to look at the “subject” part/aspect of yourself (or the beyond-object-and-subject part/aspect)? (In other words, how do you get to know the “other side” of “me” – the “I” side?) As soon as you try to look at it, you’ve converted it into an object before you start.

    I’d also like to suggest – without proof here, only because that would take too long – that who you really are absolutely isn’t an object at all. I mean, you’re alive, you’re not a dead rock – not in your center or your essence.

    Combining the conclusions of the two previous paragraphs, it would seem it’s quite impossible for you to even look at who you truly are. So, any discussion about whether or not you could be divine seems clearly outside of your capabilities.

    Actually, I do know a way to overcome that seeming impossibility. Apologies if I sound patronizing. I’m trying to challenge you. I’d like to ask most readers (well, not Carmody): can you overcome that apparent impossibility? Can you begin to? If you can’t, what’s the point of taking this any further?

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    Quote Posted by Prodigal Son (here)
    It's an evolutionary process, and we've got a loooooooong way to go

    Exhibit A

    awww tht was great, cracked me up!
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    Quote In other words, how do you get to know the “other side” of “me” – the “I” side?) As soon as you try to look at it, you’ve converted it into an object before you start.

    well i can only speak for myself...i sense a syntactical diorama could take place here...when i "looked" at it...it came from inside so doesnt seem like an object to me..it was a part of me coming out---only pieces i might add so all is not quite clear but its my take on it at the moment.



    Quote can you overcome that apparent impossibility? Can you begin to? If you can’t, what’s the point of taking this any further?
    always invisioning tht...yes. Trying. There is no cant...taking it further is all i have, there is no stopping here FOR SURE
    We X Billions want to change the world and it appears we are......
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    Default Re: Are we really gods?

    Yup, we are all Gods! Whether we realise it or not.

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    Default Re: Are we really gods?

    Its miss-leading.
    Gods is plural---its singular--- We are One without a second.
    Thats the description from Indian Mystics
    Eckhart Tolle says---"There is only one consciousness evolving to know itself."

    God being formless became form in order to experience that which That knew.
    I am That I am.
    The mystic can truthfully say--- I am the Totality all of It.

    Best explanations that I have heard =we are electro magnetic but not of the same wattage/power of what we call God.
    We are all waves of the Divine ocean-- 100% water.
    When the wave subsides into the ocean its perspective changes it knows itself to be the Ocean.

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    I do not think that gods and or god exist therefore I do not believe that we are gods--- and if we were all of us would have a disheartening way to go! I also think, as carmody suggests, that the existence of god would allow us to not take responsibility for our behaviour as individuals, and we would attribute our lives' events (good or bad) to supernatural causes, instead of using our own intelligence and effort. Humans do not need to pretend to be gods to achieve admirable outcomes.

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    Think of the creation and its evolution as a game. There must be an intelligence who created the game. We may name it god. Thus god created the worlds. In the game there are various characters, all having their roles to play and seeking for something. Think also who play those characters. Only the intelligence or god can play. Who else?

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    I wonder what Jesus have thought about this....oh wait....

    John 10:34 - "Jesus answered them, 'Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’'?

    He was quoting Psalm 82:6 - "I said, You are gods, And all of you sons of the Most High."

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