interesting picture that fb keeps removing

[CosmicKat]

I will also post the pic on FB...The more the merrier

[RunningDeer]

[passiglight]

Sound observation whiskey i am inclined to agree with you

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)
These look like other photos I have seen of a system that moves liquid around a plane to change the center of gravity for testing. It looks alot like this photo explained by aeronautical engineer Ted Twietmeyer about five years ago.



Here is the explanation: http://rense.com/general80/inside.htm

If Facebook thinks a photo is being posted by someone who does not own the photo, they will take it down. This work is done by front line employees who err on the side of caution. If they have taken it down once, of course they will immediately do so again.

Actually that was my first observation of the pic,,, as those grey pipes don't look very high pressure, they are probably just held together with a fairly strong adhesive and in that case would not stand up to very much pressure....

and Yes the removal would defo be due to copyright infringements.........

incidentally they have not yet removed the pic from my fb today,, so perhaps they are bored with the removal replace game.....

The link i was referring to was the link that the original fb poster put up with the pic...

Still,, it has acted as quite excellent reverse propaganda for the chemtrail crew

cosmic love one and all

[Richard S.]

Quite the apparatus just to swing some weight in a plane...

[Sidney]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
this is way more advanced than the original chemtrail plane, they have changed the entir delivery system, looks futuristic compared to the 1996 planes ... those maniacs have a patch on their right sleeve that states , spraying you since 1996 ... they have removed the haz-mat signs and looks like no personnel are needed , only a pc and a pilot ... note. I can say the pipes or tubing on the floor are gas rated , they rate them by color, white for low temp, off white for hotter temp , and gray is for gas ...if it were liquid the pipes would be a different color, but since they are gray , what ever is in the tanks , leaves the system as a gas ...

I am pretty sure a high percentage of these planes are remotely operated, making the pilot obsolete as well.

[Lazlo]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
this is way more advanced than the original chemtrail plane, they have changed the entir delivery system, looks futuristic compared to the 1996 planes ... those maniacs have a patch on their right sleeve that states , spraying you since 1996 ... they have removed the haz-mat signs and looks like no personnel are needed , only a pc and a pilot ... note. I can say the pipes or tubing on the floor are gas rated , they rate them by color, white for low temp, off white for hotter temp , and gray is for gas ...if it were liquid the pipes would be a different color, but since they are gray , what ever is in the tanks , leaves the system as a gas ...

Negative Ghostrider. Pattern is full.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself

Those look like standard commercial grade PVC pipes to me. Take a look at the gate valves in the lower portion of the photo. You can buy those at any home improvement store. If this is a chemtrail plane as opposed to flight safety research, they have gotten cheap with the black budget spending. You can even see the primer and glue at the pipe marriages.

[norman]

Posted by passiglight (here)
Hi all, thought i'd just post this picture on here as it#s been generating bit of a fuss on facebook jusst recently...

Story goes....

friend of a friend posted this on his fb page with link,, that lead back to brochure of aircraft firm, i think it was boing but i really can;t remember (i'll see if i can find the link) anyhow... not long after the link and pic was removed by fb,, but not before another friend had re-posted it on his own fb page whilst also relaying the tale of this other friend who was making a fuss about fb removing the pic and after the guy reposted the pic back on his page he ended up with a temporary ban from accessing his fb page,,,,,,,

Well i immediately posted it onto my fb page and fb subsequently took the pic and link down,, so seeing as how i had the temerity to at least save the pic to my laptop i have been playing this silly game with fb, i post the pic, fb take it down...

This is happening on a daily basis just now so i thought i'd post it here...

Obviously the pic looks like an aircraft decked out for chemtrailing which is what i describe it as looking like myself........

Thing is each time they take it down i post it straight back up again which inevitably just draws more and more attention to it !!

So thanks fb your doing a grand job of drawing folks attention to the chemtrailing phenomenon....

See what you folks think of this pic,,, maybe it nothing to do with chemtrail activities, i don't really know, but the pic is doing wonders for advertising chemdims activities........

hi,

I sent the photo to my daughter who works in avionics. Here's her reply:

Don't get too excited about that pic, it is just the new boeing dreamliner in test phase. They are water balast tanks and the orange cabling is just the Flight Test Installation. Looks pretty much like what **** is working on now for the Airbus 350, he's teamleader for flight test instalation team and that is what he fits. Sorry but it is nothing special :-) All new aircraft go through it to check how they fly before they are approved.

But, I'm still pretty convinced that some of the photos I've seen are of real chemtrailing kit.

[RMorgan]

Posted by norman (here)

I sent the photo to my daughter who works in avionics. Here's her reply:

Don't get too excited about that pic, it is just the new boeing dreamliner in test phase. They are water balast tanks and the orange cabling is just the Flight Test Installation. Looks pretty much like what **** is working on now for the Airbus 350, he's teamleader for flight test instalation team and that is what he fits. Sorry but it is nothing special :-) All new aircraft go through it to check how they fly before they are approved.

But, I'm still pretty convinced that some of the photos I've seen are of real chemtrailing kit.

Looks like your daughter is right, my friend.

There´s a good thread about it on another forum, check it out:

Debunked: Chemtrail Plane Interior (Ballast Barrels)

Such cases reflect the typical uneducated conspiracy theorist mindset; receive info>ignore and skip all investigative steps>achieve precipitated biased conclusion>spread it around the web as it were the ultimate proof of his theory.

Cheers,

Raf.

[passiglight]

Nice one Norman ,, many thanks for taking the time to debunk the myths...

[CosmicKat]

I agree that the later pics posted here is a test plane but I feel that the first pic, the original one was a real chem plane.

Just one girls opinion

[Griff]

I can also confirm Whiskey Mystic's and Norman's posts. This IS a ballast system used for test and certification flights to vary loading and C of G.

It is still up on my FB though.

Griff

[Dah]

Posted by Lazlo (here)
Those look like standard commercial grade PVC pipes to me. Take a look at the gate valves in the lower portion of the photo. You can buy those at any home improvement store. If this is a chemtrail plane as opposed to flight safety research, they have gotten cheap with the black budget spending. You can even see the primer and glue at the pipe marriages.

I used the same stuff on my saltwater tank. Sched 80 PVC. not a test pilot, but that looks like a legit setup for running a new design (aircraft) thru it's paces. They gradually load them up to simulate pax and cargo.

Dilute into the jet-a. most short hauls have lots of extra weight and room for fuel?

[DNA]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by DNA (here)
[...]

I thank you for explaining the party line. I'm just curious as to wether you believe it or not.

...

Another line from a different party...

Any evidence, facts or any other data as to the explanation being a party line?

Whiskey Mystic stated this

These look like other photos I have seen of a system that moves liquid around a plane to change the center of gravity for testing. It looks alot like this photo explained by aeronautical engineer Ted Twietmeyer about five years ago.

He then backed up the statement with this source http://rense.com/general80/inside.htm

,,,,,
I appreciate Whiskey Mystic's point of view on a lot of subjects he comments about.
For me the chemtrailing issue is a no-brainer. They are chemtrailing the **** out of us. It is happening.
My question to Whiskey was if he believed the information he posted, or rather was he just trying to play devil's advocate.


Some folks have a difficult time dealing with this whole thing and kind of refuse to believe it.
I think it important to get to the, "why" when dealing with the chemtrail situation.
If one cannot come to a legitimate "why", it is difficult to grasp the phenomenon.
Motives help in my opinion.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mEfJO0-cTis

I think this video helps to illustrate and get to the point, the point being geo-engineering, which is changing the weather by altering the climate.
The present rate of chemtrailing is blocking 20% or more of the sun. That is simply outrageous.
Chemtrailing is cooling the planet. Altering the climate, and changing precipitation patterns.
It is no coincidence in my opinion that the west coast of the US suffered one of the worst droughts in the history of the country last year.

[Hervé]

Posted by DNA (here)
[...]

Whiskey Mystic stated this

These look like other photos I have seen of a system that moves liquid around a plane to change the center of gravity for testing. It looks alot like this photo explained by aeronautical engineer Ted Twietmeyer about five years ago.

He then backed up the statement with this source http://rense.com/general80/inside.htm

[...]

I don't think anyone is denying the spraying of aerosols. The point was that the picture presented for evidence of said sprayings are unanimously recognized as ballasts for flight testing and confirmed further down the thread by the experts working in that specific field. I don't see any party line there.

I personally think that most of the visible "chemtrails" are a secondary phenomenon with the actual spaying taking place at higher altitudes with the aerosols being disturbed when reaching flight paths when falling down.

There was an article on this phenomenon but starting from cometary dust as seeds for "persisting" contrails by influencing the temperature of the upper atmosphere. My take is that a similar phenomenon is being used for the hiding of the actual spraying.

So that, on the previous threads debating this chemtrails vs. contrails with experienced pilots; it may actually be that both side of that debate were right.

There is no doubt as to what reaches the ground and there is no doubt that pilots are also sincere... therefore one may need to find out where the spraying actually takes place?

I think the answer could be found in the geoengineering patent office...

[Hervé]

This one on the other hand...

See: Chemtrails: Frightening Lesser-Known Facts

[DNA]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
I personally think that most of the visible "chemtrails" are a secondary phenomenon with the actual spaying taking place at higher altitudes with the aerosols being disturbed when reaching flight paths when falling down.

I want to say I dissagree, but maybe I don't understand what you are talking about.

I will state that visible chemtrails in my opinion are absolutely being dispersed by the planes that are leading the chemtrail.

Check out 00:31

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pySfDjfEhHI

[passiglight]

Yesterday i had a very curious sighting......

Because of the area i mostly work in and around (the mendip hills somerset) i can observe chemtrailing activity a lot and from very good angles,, the mendips are high enough to afford of a spectacular view of a vast area of land encompassing Bristol and south towards Devon ,, and i get to watch chemtrail planes for hours on end and i can watch them chemtrailing and sometimes see them coming into land at Bristol airport,, i can recognise the planes that mostly work this area , however there are planes also from military and civilian and from all over..

But i see the orange rear fins very clearly so that identifies some aircraft that must be leased from a particular commercial and passenger carrying company could be easy jet logo i think,,

So anyway yesterday i was driving southbound passing the run up area of the landing strip and this plane came overhead maybe 500 feet and i had a perfect view of his belly,,,,

What i saw made me smile beyond belief and i wish i had had a camera handy,, because i saw underneath the wings at the rear of the wings tucked just in board of the wing engine cowlings were 2 big black round units one for each wing,you could almost confuse with them with the engines, as they were very close to the cowlings they were about the same size as the rear engine cowling but short maybe 2/3 feet in length looked bit like the very front unit of a single engine plane but flat with a bull nose,,,, i would guess they could have been some kind of fan used to gain correct dispersant shape of chemtrail...

i have looked at many standard pics of standard commercial/passenger planes and never seen anything like it....

Such a shame i didn't have my camera,,,, however i know where this area is now and if i ever get some time spare i will just go park up and take some shots....

Ps i now have a means to spot these planes on the tarmac and i reckon with little effort i can monitor them far more closely,,,, i just need the time which is hard to come by..

Cosmic Love

[passiglight]

Came across this today thought i'd post it here, tho i'm thinking there is probably a more relevant chentrail thread elsewhere on the boards...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=T1I4yi6apyo

Parts 2 and 3 here and youtube channel http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2013/0...io-parts1-2-3/

cosmic love not fear

[Lazlo]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
This one on the other hand...

See: Chemtrails: Frightening Lesser-Known Facts

In the Debunked link posted by RMorgan that is identified as a firefighting plane so the patent is consistent with that use.