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    Default Nemesis, Tyche, Nibiru, Planet X, Brown Dwarf & Binary System: Myths & Realities

    After getting tired of searching for priorly posted data regarding the subject every time a "Nibiru" thread resurfaces from its ashes, I compiled a series of, mostly, my own posts related to that subject as a source for actual data and references.

    Going through it, one may realize that the actual conspiracy may not be the "hiding" of data on the subject but rather, a psyop to induce people into believing that such an object is ready to come down barreling through this solar system, anew, every few years.

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    Bill Ryan 13th July 2010 21:09 Link to Post #2
    Re: Our second SUN!

    This is what Andy Lloyd and Bill Deagle are both convinced is a brown dwarf star, visible only in the infrared.

    http://www.darkstar1.co.uk

    It's not shown up yet (so it's a little behind what some people believe is the schedule), but there is credible circumstantial evidence that the Controllers are throwing quite a lot of money and technology at tracking it as it comes in from the south.

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    Bill Ryan 14th July 2010 10:58 Link to Post #20
    Re: Our second SUN!

    There's 100% no chance that thousands of amateur astronomers, controlled by no-one, are going to sit quietly if a large astronomical object becomes visible to the naked eye anytime soon.

    There does seem to be a large object (a brown dwarf star) that the Controllers are very interested in, maybe somewhere round the orbit of Jupiter (ref Andy Lloyd and Bill Deagle), not visible to the naked eye and radiating in the infrared.

    There are good arguments that this would be coming in from the south (hence the recent investment in the South Pole Telescope). The poster of the photo does not say when or where it was taken, but I assume it was in the US or Canada, very recently.

    The thousands of amateur astronomers - many of whom frequently watch the sun (especially in the recent solar eclipse) are unlikely to miss something that was taken with a digital camera while watching a sunset.

    This is almost certainly a sundog (an unusual but not infrequent atmospheric effect).

    Here's a good image of the recent 11 July 2010 eclipse: there are no other large objects else there apart from the sun. Orbital mechanics would require that any large object like PX would still be there in the field of view... it wouldn't suddenly zip away and disappear.


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    Bill Ryan 14th July 2010 16:03 Link to Post #29
    Re: Our second SUN!

    Posted by ArtyCarl (here)
    As a sometime amateur astronomer I endorse what Bill is saying. There are literally thousands of amateur astronomers all over the globe making observations and taking thousands of photographs daily. These are compared for signs of any telltale movement among the stars. Take my word for it, any tiny variation is poured over and we are talking sometimes about a minute shift in position between two or more images. It is unthinkable to believe that any astronomical body of that size could 'sneak' up on us.

    EXACTLY.

    Thanks!

    A question for you (when I was a teenager and my friends were all into girls and rock music, I was reading books on astrophysics) --- do you think it's possible that our sun is a binary star? (Most star systems are, a fact not widely known.)

    The second star in the binary system can EASILY be much smaller, and fairly far out there most of the time.. I'm sold on the plausibility of the brown dwarf model. As best I understand this is totally possible... would welcome your views.

    Note that this gets all mixed up with Sitchin's Nibiru, which he posited as a kind of giant rocky/icy spaceship which the Anunnaki were riding about on, waiting to come back this way.

    I've always contested that this makes no sense: the Anunnaki certainly have their own high-tech transport... and a rocky planet way out beyond Pluto's orbit would not be a fun place to be for a couple of thousand years. My take is that the Planet X story and the Anunnaki story are not connected in the way that Sitchin suggests... but that's another thread.


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    Amzer Zo 25th March 2011 18:48 #71
    Re: Mysterious Georgia Guidestones

    To get an idea as to what's in the stars for this planet, one could start with Velikosky and his "Worlds in Collision." The fact that he was ridiculed and "debunked" by the official academia might be a very strong indication he was somewhat eerily close to the truth. His approach of integrating myths and legends with scientific data is what was followed by the authors of "Thunderbolts Of the Gods."

    Then there are these cyclical "extinction" events, every so-and-so years. For a comprehensive study of such, have a look at:

    http://www.sott.net/articles/show/12...rom-Extinction-

    For the short version, see this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CnGRnz9Fi4&feature=player_embedded

    Where, for short, the Nemesis/brown dwarf Sun binary plays pool/billiard with the Oort Cloud and sprays the system with a new set of bolides with each new passage... and where the older sets are still at play... compounding the probabilities.



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    Amzer Zo 27th June 2011 at 08:05 #49
    Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

    Now, that said, Elenin being ascertained as no dwarf star (Phewwtttffff!); the interest directed at that comet is because it came out of a sector of the sky where a dwarf star was expected to be detected.

    The dwarf star or brown dwarf, the Sun's binary companion in short, hasn't been ruled out at all! To the contrary!

    This article is about the clearest layman's terms arguments for the existence of such a stellar body:

    Is the Sun Part of a Binary Star System? - Six Reasons to Consider

    Amongst other things, it clearly shows how a sheared off Oort cloud occurs. That is, no "Flying objects" beyond but a lot within.

    And lots of 'em flying objects when the brush off happens!




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    Amzer Zo 27th June 2011 at 08:26 #52
    Re: The confusion surrounding Comet Elenin ???

    Originally Posted by Calz_Avaretard
    Agreed.
    Bob Dean suggested 2016 or 2017 time frame correct???

    That sounds about right for the flying debris.

    The Sun's companion however would start to be detectable from the southern hemisphere around this summer.

    One reason for the focus on doom and gloom with Elenin is that it triggers an atavic fear of catastrophes by comets from the distant past... and of course the same type of individuals are banking on it...

    Last edited by Amzer Zo; 27th June 2011 at 08:35.


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    Amzer Zo 13th July 2011 at 16:49 #52
    Re: This Scared ME The Sun is out of place

    Originally Posted by DoubleHelix
    In response to the title: I'd say the sun hasn't moved an inch and its more likely that the earth's orbit is slightly out of whack if anything !

    Well, actually, that's not quite accurate:

    The Sun itself is in orbit around the center of our galaxy. Another factor to enter in is the now suspected existence of a binary companion, hence its going above and below the galactic plane. From that, the rotation of the Sun around the center of the galaxy looks more like a spiraling trajectory around the galaxy.

    Then you have the planets spiraling around that spiraling Sun... and each planet rotating on itself creating the planet's "day." Anyone dizzy yet?

    Also, our galaxy is moving inside the galactic soup of this universe.

    Check this page for a visual of the motion of a binary star system and what happens to each star's associated "debris":

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml



    The presumed distance of the Oort cloud compared to the rest of the Solar System

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    Amzer Zo 14th July 2011 at 22:59 #565
    Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    For a visual of a binary star system operation and what happens to their respective Oort clouds and Kuiper belts, check this page:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml

    It clearly shows that at one point in the cycle, flying debris are ejected in all directions. That makes for a cyclical happening of meteorites and asteroids showers our Earth and the other planets of this solar system haven't always been able to duck; like when the Dinosaurs folded.


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    Amzer Zo 21st July 2011 at 20:28 #43
    Re: Can you answer this?

    So... Lunisolar or binary... here is what the guys at Binary Research Institute have to say:

    Layman's explanation: The precession of the equinox is the age-old phenomenon whereby an observer on Earth will notice that after one year (solar, tropical, equinoctial), he will not realign with the exact same point relative to the distant stars. From two to four thousand years ago observers on Earth noticed that the sun on the vernal equinox aligned with the constellation Aries, and in the last few thousand years with Pisces. Now as many know, we are at the "dawning of the age of Aquarius", meaning the sun on the vernal equinox is close to aligning with the constellation of Aquarius. This apparent backward motion of the stars (at the time of the equinox) is the precession of the equinox – whereby the equinoctial point slowly recedes through the 12 constellations of the Zodiac at the present rate of about 1 degree per 71.6 years. If this rate were constant it would take about 25,700 to 25,800 years to complete one full precession of the equinox. However, the annual rate is now speeding up, meaning the calculated length of one full cycle is getting shorter. If the observable of precession is due to an elliptical orbit of our sun around another star, as we believe, then this explains the reason for the variable rate of precession, and also tells us the full cycle will average something different than 25,700 years. All our calculations lead us to believe the period will average about 24,000 years as will be explained in a later section of this website.

    [...]

    The precession of the equinox is observed as the stars moving across the sky at the rate of about 50 arc seconds per year, relative to the equinox. Conventional theory holds that this phenomenon is due to the gravity of the sun and moon acting upon the oblate spheroid of the earth causing the axis to wobble (the lunisolar theory). The alternative explanation advanced by the Binary Research Institute is that most of the observable is due to solar system motion, causing a reorientation of the earth relative to the fixed stars as the solar system gradually curves through space (the binary theory or model). We find the binary model better explains acceleration of the precession rate, better predicts changes in the rate, answers a number of solar system problems and has none of the paradoxes or inconsistencies associated with lunisolar precession theory.

    The Research section includes a summary of our basic work investigating the mechanics of precession, describes some of the problems with current theory and gives data to show that solar system motion is a better explanation for the observable known as the precession of the equinox. If you move your mouse over the word “Research” you will find this work broken into five further sections entitled: Introduction, Evidence, Calculations, Finding It and Papers and Articles. We invite you to browse.

    For a tutorial on our alternate view of precession please begin with the “Introduction” and keep clicking the “Next” button and it will carry you through each section of the presentation.

    If you have any comments or questions about this website or any of our work please feel free to email me at:

    Walter@BinaryResearchInstitute.org

    Warm Regards,
    Walter Cruttenden

    Check this page for an animation on how this works (click on "Forward" to step through):

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...urvature.shtml

    Look at this other animation to get a visual of how each partner of the binary system speed up or slow down in their orbit around the system's center of gravity:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml

    ... and here to get the idea of how that translates for the observation of distant stars/constellations:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...mplicity.shtml

    As it is known that the Oort cloud has its outside edge nicely "polished" (i.e. the "Sheer Edge"), here is their animation on how that could occur with a binary system:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...heeredge.shtml

    In short, our solar system (binary stars plus their respective planets) are dancing around the galactic center describing "traveling ovals."


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    Amzer Zo 22nd July 2011 at 21:44 #45
    Re: Can you answer this?

    Originally Posted by IndigoStar
    So the precession of the equinoxes is approaching and it only occurs every 26,000 years and has a drastic effect on the earth and its inhabitants....

    so my question is what was the big change at the last precession of the equinoxes?

    Looking forward to hearing your answers and thanks in advance : )

    Hello IndigoStar!

    To strictly answer your question, just look what were the news around 21st June, 2011.

    That's when the last precession occurred, the next will be around 21st September, 2011... and so on; twice every year.

    In view of what I posted above, the whole cycle of these precessions gets back to some arbitrary "square one" every 24,000 years on average. That's when our Sun has completed a full revolution around the center of gravity of our binary solar system.

    Accordingly, I am not sure that the resetting to a "square one" has anything to do with the price of fish... it is just a long cycle timer with which cyclical events can be checked against.

    The problem is: do we have bona fide cyclical events or just galactic flukes?

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    Amzer Zo 25th July 2011 at 00:58 #604
    Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Originally Posted by ghostrider
    ... a mini solar system is passing thru our inner solar system with it's own sun and planets/moons and comets.

    Almost but not quite: The mini solar system is associated with a brown dwarf star which is the companion to our Sun in its journey around the galaxy. Both constitute our BINARY solar system. As they dance around each other they don't penetrate into each other's planetary system but "polish" each other's Oort cloud. That's the assumption from our Oort cloud having a "sheer edge" on its outside (clean shaven outside, the inside is a lot fuzzier).







    Look at this animation to get a visual of how each partner of the binary system speed up or slow down in their orbit around the system's center of gravity:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml

    As it is known that the Oort cloud has its outside edge nicely "polished" (i.e. the "Sheer Edge"), here is their animation on how that could occur with a binary system:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...heeredge.shtml



    In short, our solar system (binary stars plus their respective planets) are dancing around the galactic center describing "traveling ovals."

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    Amzer Zo 28th July 2011 at 23:12 #650
    Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Now let's dispel some of the spells the gloom & doom propagandists are casting all over the place.

    The most accurate description of that mysterious (there it is that propaganda... "mysterious") body is that it is cold, hence not radiating much energy, and does not reflect light as a planet does (see the articles referenced in that PDF). Also, it does not perceptibly move as a planet or a comet would.

    Hence:
    A comet? NIET!

    A planet? NIET!

    So, why call it "Planet X," "Tyche," etc?


    Now... Sitchin and Nibiru:

    To start with, Sitchin works is only found under the "Fiction" section of a library.


    Then this:

    An interesting view which largely differs from the [now] commonly held beliefs about Sumer and the Sumerians, from Jonathan Gray:

    SUMERIAN ASTRONOMY
    A key element of Sumero-Mesopotamian religion was a concern with heavenly bodies that could be observed with the naked eye - especially the sun, moon, and Venus, due to their ease of visibility.

    We observed earlier that the Sumerian culture was a paradox. On the one hand, the Sumerians, had an advanced knowledge of astronomy, geography, medicine and virtually all the sciences.

    On the other hand, they were an entirely practical people, with no urge to search for truth for its own sake. They sought for no underlying principles, and undertook no experiments for verification. (Samuel M. Kramer, From the Tablets of Sumer. Indian Hills: Falcon’s Wing Press, 1956, pp. xviii, 6, 32, 58, 59)

    For this reason, their astronomy dealt only with the visible – that which might have a practical effect on their everyday life.

    ASTRONOMY WAS RELIGIOUS
    And they linked astronomy to their religion.

    That is why Sumero-Mesopotamian religion had a key concern with heavenly bodies that could be observed with the naked eye - especially the Sun, Moon, and Venus, due to their ease of visibility.

    (Please note, this has a direct bearing on what we discovered in the previous chapter concerning Nibiru. The Sumerian documents say that Nibiru is visible EVERY YEAR.)

    It is important to realize that each visible heavenly body was artistically symbolized - and stood for a deity.

    Where did Sitchin find the 3600 years cycle for Nibiru? No one knows! It's certainly not written on any Sumerian tablets. Also, according to one of Bill Ryan's friend/witness, Sitchin wrote his books via automatic writings. Hence the "Fiction" category for his books.

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20331-The-Anunnaki&p=216395&viewfull=1#post216395
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24489-Was-Sitchin-wrong&p=257351&viewfull=1#post257351

    So, Nibiru? NIET!

    In my view, keeping calling that identified body as "Nibiru" is a not so subtle way of perpetuating the propaganda.

    Then, the author assumes that this electromagnetic generator follows in the wake of Elenin and will come to play pool/billiard with the planets of our solar system...

    Well, I have trouble with that assumption simply because of the earlier known and published descriptions of said new pool-shark in town:

    "Cold," not perceptibly "moving," but best candidate to explain the strange motions along the trajectories of our solar system outermost planets.

    Why? Because closest massive object to our solar system.

    To summarize: "Cold," imperceptible motions, closest-by massive object susceptible to provide explanations for the behavior of our border planets.

    Hmmm... a "brown dwarf" fits the bill... but so close? Well, then, our solar system is a "Binary star system."

    Wow!

    That would explain the "Sheer Edge" of our sun's Oort cloud, wouldn't it?

    ... and... and... the precession of the Equinoxes as well, wouldn't it?

    ... and... and... all these Earth's catastrophes via meteor bombardments...

    ... and ... and... Velikovsky's stuff as well as McCanney's or those Thunderbolts of the Gods' stuff... awe inspiring, indeed...

    Originally Posted by Amzer Zo
    A mini solar system is associated with a brown dwarf star which is the companion to our Sun in its journey around the galaxy. Both constitute our BINARY solar system. As they dance around each other they don't penetrate into each other's planetary system but "polish" each other's Oort cloud. That's the assumption from our Oort cloud having a "sheer edge" on its outside (clean shaven outside, the inside is a lot fuzzier).





    Look at this animation to get a visual of how each partner of the binary system speed up or slow down in their orbit around the system's center of gravity:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml

    As it is known that the Oort cloud has its outside edge nicely "polished" (i.e. the "Sheer Edge"), here is their animation on how that could occur with a binary system:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...heeredge.shtml


    In short, our solar system (binary stars plus their respective planets) are dancing around the galactic center describing "travelling ovals."

    ... therefore: Never the twain shall meet

    Besides the electromagnetic disturbances, the catastrophes that could occur would be from our twin stars shaving each other's Oort clouds:



    That's the real danger: Bowling alley fiesta!

    FYI: Earth quakes -- for energy conservation, storage capacity and release reasons -- cannot go much higher than 10 on the Richter scale.

    However, a fair size asteroid hitting Earth could send the ensuing EQ's magnitude off the charts.


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    Amzer Zo 31st July 2011 at 10:12 #687
    Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Originally Posted by The Truth Is In There
    of course it's just a theory because there's no way for those who collected the data to do that for the last few millennia. it's based on elenins current trajectory and that's just what is is - current. they have no way to tell if (or when) it changed orbit in the past due to the gravitational pull of planet x. besides, you take for granted that nasa and the likes tell you the truth. my guess is that they know very well that elenin is tied to planet x and has pretty much the same orbit but they don't tell the people, for obvious reasons.

    btw, i'm not sure if you understand how prophecy works. the prophets have seen elenin/the blue kachina at this point in time so it couldn't have been grabbed by some other stellar object and sent out to outer space as you suggested because then it wouldn't have been possible for them so see it come here the way they did. and because it does come along now just like it was foreseen means it fulfills the prophecy and tells us that we're in the very timeline these prophets saw in their visions. and that, in turn, tells us that the other things they saw are also going to happen because they're part of the same prophecy.

    First, I was pointing out that the 1 million years period of Elenin couldn't be a theory simply because it is derived from empirical data, i.e. observation. Hence it cannot be an "Of course it's a theory."

    Second, I never said I was taking "NASA's and the likes'" data for granted. The period is verified by others. An example of that was that NASA first considered the orbit as being non-periodic, i.e. a space fluke coming in and going out never to be seen again. Others rightfully disagreed with that.

    As for the Hopi prophecies, if I am not mistaken, the Elders themselves uttered something to the effect that the outcome could change or not happen as envisioned.

    If you go back to Post #650, the said space object cannot be a planet. So, no "Planet X." The only hypothesis about that object which still hold some water is the Brown Dwarf, binary companion to our Sun. That Brown Dwarf and our Sun have a period of 24,000 years in dancing around each other. Therefore that Blue Kachina needs to have a similar period in order to be a harbinger of the Brown Dwarf.

    I don't know how else to convey to you that that space object cannot follow the same orbital path as Elenin. That's part of the hogwash as pointed out by Chuck regarding that PDF/Scrib paper.

    Reread that Post #650 and understand what's in there. It was my attempt to clear the confusion and propaganda that's being purposefully perpetuated about the subject. I apologize if it's not clear enough.


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    Amzer Zo 1st August 2011 at 09:35 #726
    Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Originally Posted by Amzer Zo
    First, I was pointing out that the 1 million years period of Elenin couldn't be a theory simply because it is derived from empirical data, i.e. observation. Hence it cannot be an "Of course it's a theory."

    Originally Posted by The Truth Is In There
    ok you win. apparently it has been observed for the last one million years. i didn't know that.

    I see... well, one versed in some good maths and physics only needs the coordinates, compute the speed from time of discovery up to now in order to construct the orbital path and its period; no need to be sarcastic.

    Originally Posted by Amzer Zo
    As for the Hopi prophecies, if I am not mistaken, the Elders themselves uttered something to the effect that the outcome could change or not happen as envisioned.

    Originally Posted by The Truth Is In There
    yes but obviously it is happening.

    I am sorry but what exactly is "obviously" happening beside a lot of GooTube hysteria and disinfo?

    Originally Posted by Amzer Zo
    If you go back to Post #650, the said space object cannot be a planet. So, no "Planet X." The only hypothesis about that object which still hold some water is the Brown Dwarf, binary companion to our Sun. That Brown Dwarf and our Sun have a period of 24,000 years in dancing around each other. Therefore that Blue Kachina needs to have a similar period in order to be a harbinger of the Brown Dwarf.

    Originally Posted by The Truth Is In There
    i merely called it planet x because that's the name it was given back in the 80s when the first stories about it appeared in the newspapers and it's the name the zetas use. i could call it nibiru if you prefer that or wormwood or the destroyer. it doesn't matter, it's just a name.

    i stand by my kachina theory. in 2-3 months we'll know who was right.

    "Planet X" was the first disinfo attached to that body from some insider guy, whether willfully or not because they had the data it was a very cold object with no, to little, perceptible motion ruling it out as either a comet or a planet. The piece of disinfo was to call it a planet enticing people to look for a planet that didn't exist. Blown to propaganda proportion by MSM "newspapers." Makes sense?

    Now, about the Zetas, did you ever read what a former outspoken disseminator of their "predictions" and "data" ended up publishing about them? Here is the link for the record:

    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/plane...15jul;04.shtml

    where you could find some info about Nancy Lieder being an unaware (benefit of the doubt) CIA mind controlled asset.

    Nibiru is a hoax invented by Sitchin and/or his channeled entity, again see Post #650 as well as this one:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post257351

    I understand now where you are coming from; but, then, why not call that cold object by its closest descriptive name? That is, a brown dwarf. So as to avoid the propaganda, disinfo and agendas attached to all these other names. As you may be aware of, calling it any names known in the MSM, you do further the purpose of the propaganda, disinfo and agenda attached to that name. Therefore, it isn't exactly just a "name."

    Nothing against standing by your opinion...

    Here is what the discoverer had to say about his discovery and what people ended making out of it. Here's from the horse's mouth:

    The panic on the Internet began with a genuine snapshot, published by one of the Argentine astronomers, and few people bothered to pay attention to the date - April 1st. In the center - a comet with a symbol C 2010 X1 Elenin, and on each side, wrote the scientist, - something that looks very much like two alien spacecraft. They are on their way! - the Internet exploded and started to await the end of the world.
    [...]
    Leonid Elenin, researcher in the Institute of Applied Mathematics says: "I receive letters that ask me to present a passport."

    Interviewer: "Where the letters are coming from?"

    Leonid Elenin: "Well, most of them come from the U.S.. Right now, during the last week, I was 'buried' by letters from Russia. From U.S. also came: 'We don't believe you. Show your passport.' To which I replied: Why do I have to show you anything?"
    [...]
    Leonid Elenin: "These are actually stars. What happens is, that during a certain process of adding several frames in relation to the velocity of the comet, these stars stretch into tracks. In principle, any astronomer should know this."
    [...]
    Interviewer: "It is similar to a bright spot being smeared on the picture taken at night."

    Leonid Elenin: "Yes, of course. And the discovery of a comet was my dream, a childhood dream. And it was accomplished. Of course, I was happy and so on. But now, all this is happening around my comet. There are, for example, the following letters: 'Leonid, tell us the truth. I am selling my house. And my family and I are heading for the mountains.' It's nothing but hysteria. More so, the comet is absolutely safe for the Earth. It will pass at a distance of 34 million kilometers from the planet."
    [...]

    Full article, click: here

    That's for Elenin.

    Now, the Brown Dwarf... that's another story because of its interaction with Our Sun which dictates what's occurring with the planets around it. Electromagnetism being the main engine.

    That's my take for the moment; it might change without notice as new data are made available.


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    Amzer Zo 2nd August 2011 at 23:39 #760
    Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Originally Posted by Malachi
    [...]
    hi Amzer Zo, I like your posts.

    yes, my question was about this brown dwarf. correct me if I am wrong, but if a brown dwarf with a size and mass of many-many Jupiters came to our system in every 24 thousand years, in that case our Solar System would not exist in this form. 24 thousand years is nothing on the planets' time scale, I think. our Solar System is too still and peaceful place for something big stuff like this. Am I wrong? I'm not an astrophysicist, just wondering...

    Let me put it this way, our solar system as a binary system, has become stable as such for a long, long time with both stars orbiting around each other. Check this animation to get a visual on how this works:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml

    As such, the rule of the relationship between our Sun, its companion and their respective planets is: NEVER THE TWAIN SHALL MEET!


    Hence all you can read about a large object coming in between Earth and Sun and using our Sun planetary system as a bowling alley is just propaganda and disinfo to foster fear and hysteria.

    However, heavy cometary and asteroid showers and ensuing catastrophes can result from the twin stars shaving each other's Oort cloud as depicted in this other animation:

    http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/b...heeredge.shtml

    Hope this helps clarify the waters purposefully muddied?


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    Amzer Zo 3rd August 2011 at 05:36 #770
    Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Thunderbolts of the Gods... definitely a must see, best show in town.

    Now... what if... all these stories about catastrophes and their cycles were a mix from different extraterrestrial cultures... all mixed up with the ones native to Earth? With Earth being the rescue mother-ship?

    How's that for a thought?

    Moreover, what if, instead of being regularly bombarded with Oort clouds shavings, we were bombarded with the meteorized remnants of a planetary, "man"-made catastrophe?

    About most everyone has heard of the "destruction" of Atlantis... of the "destruction" of Lemuria... what about the "destruction" of Marduck/Maldek?

    If there's any truth to this; then, even a "cyclical" occurrence of catastrophes on Earth is part of a propaganda and disinfo on the origins of these catastrophes. Some sort of cosmic 9-11 if you will....

    If you are inclined to learn more on this topic, listen to this guy:

    You've heard of him... J.P. Farrell...


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PgNt...eature=related or:


    Farrell makes reference to Tom van Flandern with respect to the computation of the point of origin of families of meteorids; here is the most recent paper I could find on this:

    http://metaresearch.org/solar%20system/eph/eph2000.asp

    Hope you'll enjoy watching all the new worms coming out of this can...
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    Hi Amzer Zo
    I have no doubt of your ability and honest desire to speak and know the truth.
    There has been a lot of hpe regarding--something out there and no doubt most of it is just not true--however as yet I have not seen a simple explanation as to why the planets in our solar system including earth are acting up.
    Galactic super wave seems credible--the area of space we have just entered into may well be full of meteorites etc however there seems to specific times when there is more earth quakes fireballs etc.
    I am not in a position to debate this with you Amzer Zo I just dont have the education and im dyslexic so reading long scientific work is just not possible.
    A simple answer must be possible.
    Im only interested in truth.

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    Default Re: Nemesis, Tyche, Nibiru, Planet X, Brown Dwarf & Binary System: Myths & Realities

    Amzer Zo 6th August 2011 at 23:59 #16
    Re: Comet Elenin - Connections with 911, strange coincidences and the mayan calendar

    There is a deliberate obfuscation propagated and fueled in the new alternative MSM regarding these stellar objects to such an extent that a puny comet is being dubbed as a dwarf star or a neutron star, etc....

    Elenin is just a puny comet, no more. What people turn it into, that's their own.

    However, there are growing evidences that our solar system is a binary star system.

    Check this post for an overview: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post272050

    The period of the orbiting around each other of our Sun and its twin Brown Dwarf is determined by the precession of the Equinoxes. One cycle takes 24,000 years to complete:

    Binary Model - Kepler Solution

    An observer on a planet in a binary system would notice a change in orientation at a rate commensurate to the orbit period around the common center of mass. (USNO) With minor local effects and no eccentricity, this type of change in orientation at 50´´p/y would equate to an orbit periodicity of 25,920 years. (1,296,000/50 = 25,920). At 54´´p/y, again with minor local effects and no eccentricity, this type of change in orientation would equate to 24,000 years (1,296,000/54 = 24,000). In 1894, about the same time that the great astronomer Simon Newcomb gave us a precession formula with a constant of .000222 p/y (designed to predict changes in the precession rate), an Indian astronomer, Sri Yukteswar, explained that the moving equinox (precession) was a result of a moving solar system and he gave us a binary orbit periodicity of 24,000 years, with apoapsis at 500 A.D. Thus, one scientist gave us a strictly local dynamics model and the other a strictly non-local dynamic SS model. Which model was more accurate over the next 100 years?

    [...]

    Comparing Yukteswar’s and Newcomb’s predictions to the actual we find the dynamic SS model to be 41 times more accurate than the lunisolar precession model over the last 100 years.

    In this chart we have included precession calculations for 10 year periods, over the last 100 years.


    The first nine points are from Newcomb (or use Newcomb’s methodology) and the last three are from the Astronomical Almanac. The red line is a plot of the rate of increase (in arc length) required for a body in a 24,000 year orbit (Dynamic Solar System Model). Note the slope of the red line better fits the long term precession observable compared to Newcomb's calculations.

    It is a given (in the right column) as the annual rate of precession accelerates, the orbit period (or wobble cycle in lunisolar theory) will decrease.

    The ascending line is the plot one would expect to see if our sun were in a binary orbit with a total period of 24,000 years and mild eccentricity. Notice the historical data has a high correlation to our hypothesized orbit period.

    Lunisolar theory gives no good reason for the trend. A binary orbit, conforming to the laws of elliptical orbits, is a logical explanation.

    A binary system is two stars gravitationally bound orbiting a common center of mass. The stars can be of the same or differing sizes and orbits can be as short as a few days or as long as thousands of years. The short ones are easy to detect, the long ones difficult, some probably impossible to detect because of the very long observation period required.


    While there is no obvious visible companion star to our Sun, there could be a dark binary, such as a brown dwarf or possibly a relatively small black hole, either of which might be very difficult to detect, without accurate and lengthy analysis

    The above is taken from http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml

    check it out!


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    Amzer Zo 23rd August 2011 at 12:02 #999
    Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    All right, enough of these

    Thanks to The One for uncovering this gem of a video:


    It is worth a few listen/viewing because it yields the clue as to what's happening to this solar system.

    In it, Stan Deyo explains what generates gravity and its standing waves in a system and that explanation accounts for about everything that's currently occurring planet wise.

    He worked at generating anti-gravity fields with working scale models of larger vehicles. In order to do that, one has to get a good grasp of how gravity works... and there resides the crux of Earth and solar system changes.

    Planets are located on annular standing waves generated by the Sun's rotating field and bounced back from outer space.

    Hence, minimally, three things can influence the stationary wave where a planet is located:

    1) something changing the Sun's rotating field,

    2) something disturbing the outer space bouncing boundary,

    3) a combination of the above two.

    Sooooo... if gravity and anti-gravity are generated by rotating fields... changes in those at the scale of a planet would generate changes in electromagnetic phenomena and in what we took for granted such as the magnetic north pole...

    Changes in gravity would also generate tectonic re-adjustments, wouldn't they?

    Since it seems the Sun is still rotating the same old pace... what could possibly be causing the planetary changes currently occurring?

    Could it... Noooohh... that couldn't... you mean... something is disturbing that outer space bouncing boundary?

    That's far out, isn't it?

    Yep!

    So is a binary companion star...





    ... let you chew on that one!


    For those of you not familiar with Stan Deyo, he is about the only guy who was getting more and more accurate at predicting earth quakes from sea surface temperature resulting from plasma discharges... so, NOAA knock down the display of their sensors readings off the internet.


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    Amzer Zo 29th August 2011 at 00:16 #1059
    Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Originally Posted by Mandala
    Amzer Zo, what is your bottom line opinion on the comet, the large astronomical body and the asteroid? If google sky is from '07, and this is a piddly little comet, is most of this pure distraction? Many people say Nibiru was destroyed years ago. You have a lot of data which I appreciate, but could you speculate a little from all you know and understand?

    Thanks, Mandala

    Elenin: a distraction/decoy for man made/enhanced catastrophes; similar to the box-cutter armed plane-highjakers of 9-11.

    Nibiru: read/re-read post # 650 and post # 934

    Large astronomical body: idem

    Brown Dwarf coming within this solar system: fear and doom & gloom propaganda/psyop since this solar system wouldn't exist as it currently is. A binary system implies: Never the twain shall meet! See post # 650

    For a subjective take on "man-made" catastrophes, have a look at this video:


    That video gives one a different story regarding recurrent meteorites/asteroids bombardments of Earth and other planets as well as cyclical, extinction level, meteorite generated catastrophes.

    As for earthquakes of magnitude 12-15: bollocks!

    For reasons having to do with rocks capacity to store and release stress energy, natural earthquakes cannot go beyond magnitude 10-10.5 on the Richter Scale.

    Meteoritic impacts could.

    My take is that our solar system is a binary star system and our Sun's twin is pulling on our Sun's strings, generating the observed changes not only on Earth but solar system wide.

    There are changes, but there is a group of people making the most out of it at the expense of the rest of the population; feeding the fear and, conversely, feeding on it.


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    Amzer Zo 30th August 2011 at 13:01 #6
    Re: The PROCESSIONAL CYCLE and the END DATE

    For an in-depth discussion on the precession of the Equinoxes and the value of the different models followed, see this site:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...ecession.shtml

    Layman's explanation: The precession of the equinox is the age-old phenomenon whereby an observer on Earth will notice that after one year (solar, tropical, equinoctial), he will not realign with the exact same point relative to the distant stars. From two to four thousand years ago observers on Earth noticed that the sun on the vernal equinox aligned with the constellation Aries, and in the last few thousand years with Pisces. Now as many know, we are at the "dawning of the age of Aquarius", meaning the sun on the vernal equinox is close to aligning with the constellation of Aquarius. This apparent backward motion of the stars (at the time of the equinox) is the precession of the equinox – whereby the equinoctial point slowly recedes through the 12 constellations of the Zodiac at the present rate of about 1 degree per 71.6 years. If this rate were constant it would take about 25,700 to 25,800 years to complete one full precession of the equinox. However, the annual rate is now speeding up, meaning the calculated length of one full cycle is getting shorter. If the observable of precession is due to an elliptical orbit of our sun around another star, as we believe, then this explains the reason for the variable rate of precession, and also tells us the full cycle will average something different than 25,700 years. All our calculations lead us to believe the period will average about 24,000 years as will be explained in a later section of this website.
    [...]
    Next, is the same chart in an "Angular Momentum to Mass ratio" formula. You can see all the bodies in our solar system have ratios in line with their mass except for the Sun.


    We then added one input into the existing formula: we assumed the Sun was moving in a binary orbit with a period of 24,000 years.


    As you can see, the Sun came right into line.

    This indicates the Sun may indeed have it's proper angular momentum (proportional to it's mass) providing another indication our sun is part of a binary or multiple star system.

    [...]

    Precession Model Considerations

    We offer here a revised precession model based on a moving solar system, herein called the Binary Model or simply new model in this animation (you can stop or start the animations individually with the controls in the lower right hand corner). Note that both models look very similar and have similar observables.
    (see site's animations for a better grasp of the idea)

    In both models the point of equinox occurs where the celestial equator (grey disk) intersects the ecliptic (gold disk), which of course occurs twice a year - the first day of Spring and the first day of Autumn. And in both models the equinox moves at the same rate relative to the black background and fixed text (which represents the fixed stars).

    The difference in the models is that the conventional model moves the point of equinox by requiring the celestial equator to slip along the ecliptic (a wobbling earth scenario as propounded by lunisolar theory), whereas in the binary model the ecliptic and celestial equator remain fixed (meaning the equinox occurs at the same point every year in the earth’s orbit path around the sun) moving against the background stars simply because the solar system moves.

    The only way to easily tell the difference between the two models is by noting the position of an observer (the red X) relative to the equinox, ecliptic and celestial equator. In the conventional model the solar system is static and therefore the observer is stuck in one position (relative to the fixed stars), so the only way the equinox can move relative to the fixed stars is if the point at which the celestial equator intersects the ecliptic is constantly in local motion. In the binary model the observer remains fixed in relation to local markers and the equinox moves because the solar system moves.

    The simplest observable of the precession of the equinox is that at the time of the annual equinox we observe that the sun has moved west about 50” from the position it was in the year before – relative to the background stars. Under conventional theory this motion is considered “apparent” with astronomers believing the sun did not actually move – it just “appeared” to move because the earth wobbled by 50”.

    But in the new model things are much simpler. The sun moves across the sky at 50” p/y because this is how much the solar system moves per year (its angular velocity). The “precession of the equinox” then is not an “apparent” motion of the sun – it is a real motion of the sun. The solar system moves!

    According to this new discovery based on observed, empirical data... everybody's wrong with their calendar!


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    Amzer Zo 31st August 2011 at 11:26 #1092
    Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Originally Posted by teddyc1
    Thanks Amzer. Very interesting repost of the binary twin scenario.
    [...]
    Clearly, Velikovsky was quite wrong about Venus.
    [...]
    Teddy

    Hi Teddy!

    Not so sure about Velikosky being wrong about Venus: Check what this guy has to say about Venus, its orbit and its "venero-physics" (as compared to "geo-physics")... doesn't properly belong to this planetary system.



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    Amzer Zo 2sd September 2011 at 23:46 #1147
    Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Originally Posted by greybeard
    Im laughing because every time logic clicks in there is another twist in the "tale" of Elenin.

    My thoughts are -----that its true that the comet is disintegrating.
    I have never believed any alien connection.

    You "said" it yourself... "tale."

    All the data are there for anyone to understand but I guess most people have a hard time understanding the "PR" point brought forth by Bill Ryan... Hoagland uses it to the max whereas amateur astronomers have no interest in spinning a "tale" since they believe in "credibility" and in one's own integrity and honor.

    Seems the "PR" propaganda dept. is having another go at the Hale-Bopp recipe with a "mysterious," large object in the wake of Elenin, etc... now I understand Laura Knight-Jadczyk comment to Kerry about having blood on their hands and refused to participate to that conference.

    From: http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx433.htm

    Enterprise Mission
    For instance, "Zeta Talk" has alleged, in 1995, among other things, that Hale-Bopp was "not a comet." This would come as quite a surprise to those of us that viewed it our night skies for several months in 1997. They've also claimed that Enterprise principal investigator Richard C. Hoagland once went on Art Bell to concur with this opinion by stating he "suspected Hale-Bopp of being not a comet but an intelligently driven star-like object." We of course never said any such thing. They've also charged that Hoagland did this at NASA's behest in return for a promise that NASA would re-photograph Cydonia. No such "quid-pro-quo" has ever taken place between these two parties on any matter. Enterprise Mission, 2002

    Originally Posted by greybeard
    [...]
    I do believe that we are having massive changes in our solar system,
    I am not sure what is causing this but I suspect that the electro magnetic ribbon moving in from the gllactic center has more to do with it than any comet or planet.
    Regards
    Chris

    A little semantic disagreement: is that a belief or is it observations/data collection?

    Personally, I am not entirely convinced about that energized cloud of particles; I am more inclined to consider a binary star system to have a greater, more noticeable influence then a cloud of particles... unless that cloud happens to amplify the effects of the Sun's twin.

    Debatable until more factual data are made available.

    How am I doing Amzer Zo?

    I don't know... Chris, how are you doing?


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    Amzer Zo 3rd September 2011 at 02:03 #1149
    Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Originally Posted by MorningSong
    OK, So I'm back...because I'm sick of seeing my nick show up so often in what I consider at troll attack.
    Please stop copying and re-pasting yourself, Amzer Zo.
    I want to know what you really think about this Elenin thing. It appears you think you know something so brilliant that just seems so obvious, that you can't understand why the others of us can't read your mind. Enlighten us, please!

    Read my posts, they provide the factual data I know of on the subject as compared to someone's ideas and words.

    Someone already asked me that question and I answered. There are data in the face of the doom & gloom hype and propaganda... the data are not paid attention to but, gawd, is the doom & gloom ever considered and re-circulated and reborn in new threads out of the ashes of old ones, etc.


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    Amzer Zo 13th September 2011 at 02:21 #2
    Re: Are we in a binary system?

    Been promulgating it for a while but it's been drowned every time with... prophecies and the likes (see here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post267243 and here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post269436).

    It is more than a "think" as they collected supportive evidence from many fields.



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    Amzer Zo 13th September 2011 at 03:35 #4
    Re: Are we in a binary system?

    Posted by Bridey (here)
    [...] Tis a good website though....


    It is indeed! I was hoping that, opened in a new thread, it might spark some interest...

    [Rant] That it is a good site with rational data may explain to you the lack of rush to this thread...

    My take anyway, after my experience of it in the Elenin thread. It seems that too many of the people posting are more interested in some kind of huge stellar object barreling down the stellar bowling alley to use the planets of this solar system as pins... [/Rant]


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    Amzer Zo 19th September 2011 at 01:02 #19
    Re: Binary Star Isn't "Real" Until it is on CNN

    Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
    [...]
    What puzzles me is elenin has 75+ threads and the biggest 66+ pages ... yet you were the first (and only thus far) to comment on the fact that it is being announced on msm tv that our binary star, brown dwarf, nibiru, plantet x, wormwood, red kachina ... whatever the heck you want to call it has entered the outer reaches of our solar system.
    [...]
    Cal


    How's that even possible?

    Meaning: That binary star IS PART OF OUR SOLAR SYSTEM! It's always been! That's why it's a binary system/star!

    Remember:

    Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Now, that said, Elenin being ascertained as no dwarf star (Phewwtttffff!); the interest directed at that comet is because it came out of a sector of the sky where a dwarf star was expected to be detected.

    The dwarf star or brown dwarf, the Sun's binary companion in short, hasn't been ruled out at all! To the contrary!

    This article is about the clearest layman's terms arguments for the existence of such a stellar body:

    Is the Sun Part of a Binary Star System? - Six Reasons to Consider

    Amongst other things, it clearly shows how a sheared off Oort cloud occurs. That is, no "Flying objects" beyond but a lot within.

    And lots of 'em flying objects when the brush off happens!


    Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
    Agreed.
    Bob Dean suggested 2016 or 2017 time frame correct???


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    Amzer Zo 19th September 2011 at 01:51 #22
    Re: Binary Star Isn't "Real" Until it is on CNN

    Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Meaning: That binary star IS PART OF OUR SOLAR SYSTEM! It's always been! That's why it's a binary system/star!


    Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
    With a highly eliptical orbit.

    I agree that a binary star would be considered part of the same solar system as it's twin star.

    What I was trying to imply was it is being suggested as coming into what most of us non-atronomers (the 99.999% of the world population) would recognize as "our solar system".

    Forgive me if that was too vague.

    Yeah... that may be why things like this:

    Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Now let's dispel some of the spells the gloom & doom propagandists are casting all over the place.

    The most accurate description of that mysterious (there it is that propaganda... "mysterious") body is that it is cold, hence not radiating much energy, and does not reflect light as a planet does (see the articles referenced in that PDF). Also, it does not perceptibly move as a planet or a comet would.

    Hence:

    A comet? NIET!

    A planet? NIET!

    So, why call it "Planet X," "Tyche," etc?
    [...]

    ... kept getting buried under sensationalizing videos and other things, no matter how many times and ways I offered to demonstrate it as an impossibility in that thread.

    Sensationalism using the same twist as the OP CNN video: "It's entering our solar system..." boy did that ever caught on like a wild fire...

    Unless I change my mind, the only thing I am gonna add on this thread about the subject is this:

    If this large body is a binary star to our system, then it has an established revolution/orbit around our solar system; hence determining a cycle. Therefore, if at each cycle it were to barrel down through our "solar system" like it were a bowling alley, this current solar system wouldn't exist as it is and we wouldn't be occupying one of its planets.

    Under all apparency, we are occupying one of its planets and apparently this "solar system" has been stable like it is for a lot longer than the 24,000 years orbital period of this cycle.

    Oort cloud comets and asteroids bombings may be, however, a result of this orbital period; hence the need for a reliable calendar...


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    Amzer Zo 19th September 2011 at 07:12 #36
    Re: Binary Star Isn't "Real" Until it is on CNN

    To give one an idea on the length to which an organization can go to, to convince a certain group of people of something, watch (or rewatch) the beginning of this video where Stan Deyo recounts the outline of "Noise Level."



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    Amzer Zo 30th September 2011 at 11:39 #1411
    Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Posted by teddyc1 (here)
    [...]
    So, if i understand you correctly Amzer Zo, correct me if I'm wrong:
    1) In the binary star scenario, the 2nd star can never pass between our Sun and the earth

    2) The most it can do is increase the meteor showers a whole lot, and possibly some big ones (as in Revelation 8:8)

    If that's true, then the earthquakes which coincided with the "elenin" conjunctions, according to the NASA JPL model, might just fit the nuclear/fracking scenario posed by Fulford and commented on this thread.

    In other words, TPTB/W have been artificially making/enhancing earthquakes in order to 1) bribe certain nations and 2) generate the nibiru fear porn. Does this makes sense - any comments?


    That's the idea.



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    Amzer Zo 2sd October 2011 at 01:34 #1415
    Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Well, this one is over folks...

    ... the "super-new-moon" is gone...



    ... ... the "alignment" is gone...


    ... ... ... the comet's gone to pieces...

    So long and thanks for the fish!


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    Amzer Zo 2sd October 2011 at 14:16 #1418
    Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
    nothing is over imho. "comet" elenin will continue to play the major role in what's going to happen here on earth... [...]


    Hi TTIIT, I am curious as to what isn't understandable about that particular one, you know, the 27th Sept. alignment with a cloud of dust, being gone, done and over with?

    Unless, of course, one got caught in an endlessly looping time line.

    IMO, there is such a thing as accountability when such hype for huge catastrophes being predicted with the chorus of doom & gloom propaganda being repeated over and over from the 90s on... Hale-Bopp... Nibiru 2003... Elenin… 27th Sept. 2011... I can see it now... it's all in your signature.
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    Amzer Zo 2nd November 2011 03:53 Link to Post #4
    Re: Astronomy tools for viewing the brown dwarf (aka nibiru aka planet x etc)

    A note of clarification on his "global earthquake" spiel, there is no such a thing as far as I know since that would mean the whole Earth's crust in every and each of its points would be an earthquake hypocenter... no one would be left to tell the tale.

    What he is showing in support of his speculation is this:


    That is, one big earthquake and its aftershocks somewhere like in Japan on March 11 (above left), and it gets recorded on every seismographs on Earth within a few minutes to one hour at the antipodes from the epicenter/hypocenter:



    Click on picture to enlarge

    There has been enough big quakes recently where he took his examples (China, Turkey, Chile, Mariannas/Kermadec) to send every seismographs around Earth off their recording range...

    Taking this as an indication of an Earth expansion doesn't quite sit right with the data of most of these big quakes being of the "crunch" (compression) type rather than pure rift/extension type.

    An expansion of the Earth would cancel subductions at active margins such as along the Rim of Fire and would only leave mid-oceanic ridges active... not quite the case.

    As for that heavy, invisible object, as Bill said: to be followed since there will be only indirect indicators of its space location.

    ************
    I wasn't sure when I heard him say "This is Terral..." if it's the same guy as Terral03... so I checked the "Read more" section... and there he is; that same group:

    Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
    Was still hoping to get confirmation regarding Saturn.


    Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
    Could the photos themselves have been rotated???


    That would still not account for the Saturn moon images ... nor the storm.

    Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    I think someone was having difficulties taking pictures with his telescope...




    Dr. Byron Glenn is... that guy:

    Cape doctor says he's not leading survivalist group and has been harassed by believers in 'Planet X'
    Sunday, July 10, 2011
    By M.D. Kittle ~ Southeast Missourian


    Dr. Byron Glenn at Cape Urgent Care
    (Fred Lynch)

    Dr. Byron Glenn of Cape Girardeau says he wants nothing to do with the people he sees as online crackpots trumpeting a "conspiracy wrapped in an enigma."

    He's not alone. The folks at NASA have fruitlessly tried to debunk what they say are wild conspiracies involving Comet Elenin -- a "wimpy" projectile expected to remain more than 20 million miles from Earth.

    Glenn said he's been harassed and threatened by doomsday believers of "Planet X," an idea spreading in the blogosphere and in online chat rooms about a brown dwarf star, a low-mass object rapidly approaching the solar system and bent on destroying much of the Earth. He said that believers, apparently followers of Terral L. Croft, or "Terral03" as he is known in anxiety-ridden chat rooms, have shown up at his North Mount Auburn Road family practice demanding answers.

    "I'm not the leader of any group. I can't tell people what to do. I don't want to," Glenn told the Southeast Missourian last week when asked about his connection to Croft's "research group," reportedly made up of people who plan to head for caves in Missouri's Ozarks in the coming weeks. The plan, according to Croft and a series of online correspondence in recent months, is to ride out the earthquakes, floods, volcanoes and other calamities they believe to be coming, thanks to the magnetic and polarizing effects of Planet X.

    Croft, in letters to members of the group, describes Glenn as his good friend, a man he's been acquainted with for some time. He and others say Glenn is leading the Ozark survivalists. Glenn says he's never met Croft, a man he describes as "out there" and "on the edge," a Revelation chaser and Sept. 11 conspiracist.
    "I am not the leader of any Ozark survival group," Glenn said.

    Others say he is -- most notably Croft, who in his more recent Internet messages claims "our survival group leader and physician Dr. Byron Glenn and his engineer son" saw some disturbing things in their "expensive telescope.""Dr. Glenn was able to zoom in on the area of our dwarf star to realize he was looking at a monster of great size. We cannot see the actual dwarf star, but now he can make out the dark area and the dancing stars in the background created by the gravitational leasing effect," Croft wrote in his communique.
    [...]

    Full article here: http://www.semissourian.com/story/1743142.html

    Too many contradictions and 3D physical impossibilities from Terral03 who seem to be the actual author of that anonymous PDF/Scribb paper.

    As for Saturn's tilt... here's what GLP's amateur astronomer has to say:

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    Re: [+PIN+] ELEnin & Nibiru NEW Report... Holy SH*T READ THIS!!!!Quote [+] #
    I read through the file. I've read hundreds of postings here and on other sites on this subject and found a lot of doomers and debunkers alike and I seriously don't know which to trust. Amateurs, "professionals", claimed professionals, religious quotes...You name it.
    Quoting: Captain Spaulding 1366925

    You can trust amateur astronomers. We have no reason or motivation to lie, and indeed we're telling the truth. We'd know if Saturn had experienced a "90 degree pole shift." It hasn't.
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    ... and this:
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    Re: [+PIN+] ELEnin & Nibiru NEW Report... Holy SH*T READ THIS!!!!Quote [+] #

    Errrr guys. If the gravitational pull from Nibiru was strong enough to tilt Saturn, those moons would no longet be where they are.
    Just thought i'd point that one out.
    Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1407727

    Now *THIS* is a small, but very relevant, example of the "agenda" that I and Astronut and others are trying to get across...

    ...it's called education, logic, and common sense.
    Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1198034

    Look budy through the years many famous scientist of there day where persecuted for there theories for thinking out of the box. Are you 100% certain your correct because if you are your the first because no one has firm data on this object.
    Quoting: ducati60

    Then *you* explain how the gravity of an alleged brown dwarf (or neutron star, that's a nice one) passed by Saturn and did NOT change the orbits of the moons.

    Well?
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    Think of it... that's a major cosmic feat: Tilting Saturn by 90 degrees without flinging its moons in all directions!

    I am in awe.
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    Amzer Zo 13th November 2011 04:18 #25
    Re: Climate Change and Superstorms

    Neither... nor...

    ... there's another way of looking at it which is corroborated by empirical data as well as simulations... and that has to do with our solar system being a binary system:

    Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    So... Lunisolar or binary... here is what the guys at Binary Research Institute have to say:

    Layman's explanation: The precession of the equinox is the age-old phenomenon whereby an observer on Earth will notice that after one year (solar, tropical, equinoctial), he will not realign with the exact same point relative to the distant stars. From two to four thousand years ago observers on Earth noticed that the sun on the vernal equinox aligned with the constellation Aries, and in the last few thousand years with Pisces. Now as many know, we are at the "dawning of the age of Aquarius", meaning the sun on the vernal equinox is close to aligning with the constellation of Aquarius. This apparent backward motion of the stars (at the time of the equinox) is the precession of the equinox – whereby the equinoctial point slowly recedes through the 12 constellations of the Zodiac at the present rate of about 1 degree per 71.6 years. If this rate were constant it would take about 25,700 to 25,800 years to complete one full precession of the equinox. However, the annual rate is now speeding up, meaning the calculated length of one full cycle is getting shorter. If the observable of precession is due to an elliptical orbit of our sun around another star, as we believe, then this explains the reason for the variable rate of precession, and also tells us the full cycle will average something different than 25,700 years. All our calculations lead us to believe the period will average about 24,000 years as will be explained in a later section of this website.

    [...]

    The precession of the equinox is observed as the stars moving across the sky at the rate of about 50 arc seconds per year, relative to the equinox. Conventional theory holds that this phenomenon is due to the gravity of the sun and moon acting upon the oblate spheroid of the earth causing the axis to wobble (the lunisolar theory). The alternative explanation advanced by the Binary Research Institute is that most of the observable is due to solar system motion, causing a reorientation of the earth relative to the fixed stars as the solar system gradually curves through space (the binary theory or model). We find the binary model better explains acceleration of the precession rate, better predicts changes in the rate, answers a number of solar system problems and has none of the paradoxes or inconsistencies associated with lunisolar precession theory.

    The Research section includes a summary of our basic work investigating the mechanics of precession, describes some of the problems with current theory and gives data to show that solar system motion is a better explanation for the observable known as the precession of the equinox. If you move your mouse over the word “Research” you will find this work broken into five further sections entitled: Introduction, Evidence, Calculations, Finding It and Papers and Articles. We invite you to browse.

    For a tutorial on our alternate view of precession please begin with the “Introduction” and keep clicking the “Next” button and it will carry you through each section of the presentation.

    If you have any comments or questions about this website or any of our work please feel free to email me at:

    Walter@BinaryResearchInstitute.org

    Warm Regards,
    Walter Cruttenden


    Check this page for an animation on how this works (click on "Forward" to step through):

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...urvature.shtml

    Look at this other animation to get a visual of how each partner of the binary system speed up or slow down in their orbit around the system's center of gravity:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml

    ... and here to get the idea of how that translates for the observation of distant stars/constellations:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...mplicity.shtml

    As it is known that the Oort cloud has its outside edge nicely "polished" (i.e. the "Sheer Edge"), here is their animation on how that could occur with a binary system:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...heeredge.shtml

    In short, our solar system (binary stars plus their respective planets) are dancing around the galactic center describing "travelling ovals."


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    Bill Ryan 16th July 2012 04:07 Link to Post #30
    Re: Military Gives Warning to Coastal Dependants

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    I listened to the first 15 minutes. It's not credible, unless John Moore's source was himself semi-disinformed.


    Here's why:
      • The military would not call Planet X 'Nibiru'.
      • There's a great deal of evidence that 'Planet X' is real, but is very likely a brown dwarf star currently inbound and somewhere out near the orbit of Jupiter (no closer)... and due to cause effects on Planet Earth maybe round about 2017. Certainly not this year.
      • In the event of an announcement to the military to evacuate certain coastal areas, more notice would be given with the intention of enabling them to relocate in an orderly manner, with all family and personal possessions. The bugout bag idea with a flag raised at almost the last moment makes zero sense.
      • If Planet X was close enough to be about to cause a major problem geophysically, it'd already have been spotted by the thousands of independent amateur astronomers all over the world who would by now be screaming from the rooftops.
    Something may possibly be about to happen... but it's not Nibiru. My suspicion would go more in the direction of an imminent peak of solar activity... see my thread From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis.


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    Amzer Zo 27th July 2012 at 06:06 #13
    Re: "Nibiru" or Planet-Sized object to pass Earth Aug 17 to Sept 26th - Dr Deagle's s

    Posted by Mulder (here)
    [...]
    He believes this fact is scientifically proven...
    [...]

    How to get utterly confused in the course of a very short sentence...

    If it's a fact, there's no discussion, argument or "belief" possible; it's there staring in your face.

    If it's a scientific object, then it remains a hypothesis until said object is discovered and a picture of it can be displayed and therefore it cannot be a "proven" fact till then.

    As for the theory and the supporting evidences for the hypothesis of our solar system being a binary star system, from http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml:






    Researchers at BRI have noticed a number of problems related to the current theory of precession. While VLBI, laser ranging and other related technologies do a good job at determining the earth’s orientation, the sun’s movement through space has not been coordinated with these findings resulting in unintentional bias of precession inputs. In examining the phenomenon of the precession of the equinox (which was the original impetus for the development of lunisolar precession theory) we have found that a moving solar system model is a simpler way to reproduce the same observable without any of the problems associated with current precession theory. Indeed, elliptical orbit equations have been found to be a better predictor of precession rates than Newcomb's formula, showing far greater accuracy over the last hundred years. Moreover, a moving solar system model appears to solve a number of solar system formation theory problems including the sun's lack of angular momentum. For these reasons, BRI has concluded our sun is most likely part of a long cycle binary system.

    A binary system is two stars gravitationally bound orbiting a common center of mass. The stars can be of the same or differing sizes and orbits can be as short as a few days or as long as thousands of years. The short ones are easy to detect, the long ones difficult, some probably impossible to detect because of the very long observation period required.

    While there is no obvious visible companion star to our Sun, there could be a dark binary, such as a brown dwarf or possibly a relatively small black hole, either of which might be very difficult to detect, without accurate and lengthy analysis.

    There is also the possibility that our sun might be in a binary or complex gravitational relationship with one of several nearby “visible” stars. This scenario may require thinking beyond standard Newtonian dynamics to embrace MOND or MOG or some similar theory (that suggests that the constant of G might be stronger between stellar objects than between planetary objects within the solar system). There could be many types of unknown and unidentified masses that might cause our solar system to curve through space, including the local stellar cluster and even the galactic center to some small degree, each producing some small effect within the total precession observable. Consequently, at this point our work is primarily focused on understanding the precession observable and its nuances as the likely signature of our solar system's angular velocity around some common center of mass. We believe that this approach of analyzing the precession observable (the sun's motion relative to the fixed stars as seen from earth) will provide valuable and helpful data regarding the sun's most likely stellar companion (if one exists).

    In summary, beyond direct detection – one way to determine if we are in a binary or multiple star system is to see if the Sun is curving through space. To us on Earth that means we should experience a gradual “changing orientation to inertial space.” Such a phenomenon is observed as the precession of the equinox.

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    Bill Ryan 5th August 2012 14:55 Link to Post #55
    Re: Military Gives Warning to Coastal Dependants

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    Hi, All:

    I'm fully aware of this warning by John Moore a few weeks ago, and as you may have read from the posts above I pretty much dismissed it.

    Two days ago (3 August), Moore again appeared on the final hour of Dr Bill Deagle's radio show. The audio is here:

    http://archives2012.gcnlive.com/Arch...al/0803123.mp3

    He claimed he was again receiving urgent updates from inside sources -- and that military bases on the east coast were currently being evacuated. The threat was unclear (at least, to me) -- but 'Dr Bill' seemed to think that this was connected with the relatively close fly-by of a massive astronomical object. (This is unconnected with NEO [near earth object] asteroid 2012DA14. This is only 45 meters long, and its own near miss is scheduled for February 2013.)

    The only other web references for this are on Godlike Productions -- which I kind of hate to reference here, as it's usually so crazy, unpleasant, and full of anonymously sourced misinformation. But this thread may possibly be useful. Various posters with military connections have stated there that these evacuations were NOT happening... but, on the other hand, one or two others offered evidence which appeared to confirm the story.

    http://godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1945704/pg1

    John Moore's claims are important and, if legitimate, can be verified. You can't hide major military evacuations for long. They'd be visible to the public -- and military family members would soon be leaking the information everywhere. So the truth may become clear in the next week or so.

    Even if there's a 1% chance that this is real, I think we need to know a little more. So I'm asking smart Avalon researchers here to see if they can dismiss the story once and for all -- or find some confirmation. I know some people who are very worried about this, and I'd like to prove to them that it's yet one more silly-season story. At the moment, I can't quite do that.

    My thanks to all. I look forward to reading what you can dig up.
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    Default Re: Nemesis, Tyche, Nibiru, Planet X, Brown Dwarf & Binary System: Myths & Realities

    Amzer Zo 14th August 2012 at 22:15 Link to Post #7
    Re: NOVA Magnetic Pole Flip 530,000 Years Overdue & Happening Now?

    Now, for other plausible mechanisms on the generation of of magnetic pole inversions:

    Lynn Yarris, LBL Research Review / Science Beat Berkeley Lab, Mon, 13 Apr 1987, 11:02 CDT http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/...s-nemesis.html

    "Heavy snows are driven and fall from the world's four corners; the murder frost prevails. The Sun is darkened at noon; it sheds no gladness; devouring tempests bellow and never end. In vain do men await the coming of summer. Thrice winter follows winter over a world which is snow-smitten, frost-fettered, and chained in ice."
    "Fimbul Winter" from Norse saga, Twilight of the Gods


    The theorized companion star, through its gravitational pull, unleashes a furious storm of comets in the inner solar system lasting from 100,000 to 2 million years.
    Several of these comets strike the Earth.

    [...]

    [A]ccording to a theory set forth by a Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory (LBL) scientist and his colleagues. The theory postulates that every 26 to 30 million years, life on Earth is severely jeopardized by the arrival of a small companion star to the sun. Dubbed "Nemesis" (after the Greek goddess of retribution), the companion star through its gravitational pull unleashes a furious storm of comets into the inner solar system that lasts anywhere from 100,000 years to two million years. Of the billions of comets sent swarming toward the sun, several strike the Earth, triggering a nightmarish sequence of ecological catastrophes.

    "We expect that in a typical comet storm, there would be perhaps 10 impacts spread out over two million years, with intervals averaging 50,000 years between impacts," says LBL astrophysicist Richard Muller. In 1984, Muller, along with UC Berkeley astronomer Marc Davis and Piet Hut, an astronomer with the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton University, announced the Nemesis theory in Nature magazine. As could be expected, it was and remains controversial. However, although the evidence for the existence of Nemesis is still circumstantial, this evidence continues to mount, and the theory has so far withstood all challenges.

    Nemesis was the culmination of a chain of events that began in 1977, in Gubbio, Italy, a tiny village halfway between Rome and Florence. Walter Alvarez, a UC Berkeley geologist, was collecting samples of the limestone rock there for a study on paleomagnetism. The limestone rock outside of Gubbio is a big attraction for geologists and paleontologists because it provides a complete geological record of the end of the Cretaceous period and the beginning of the Tertiary period. This transition took place 65 million years ago, and is of special significance to our species, for it marked the close of the "Age of Reptiles," when dinosaurs ruled the Earth. Sometimes referred to as "the Great Dying," the massive extinction that engulfed the dinosaurs claimed nearly 75 percent of all the species of life on our planet, including most types of plants and many types of microscopic organisms. As much as 95 percent of all living creatures might have perished at the peak of destruction.

    Sandwiched between the limestone of the two periods, forming a clear line of demarcation, is a thin maybe one-half-inch thick layer of red clay. Immediately below this clay layer, the Cretaceous limestone is heavily populated with a wide mix of the tiny fossils of marine creatures called forams. Above the clay layer, in the Tertiary limestone, however, the fossils of but a single species of foram can be seen. The clay layer itself contains no foram fossils at all.

    When Walter Alvarez brought his samples back to Berkeley, his father, LBL Nobel laureate physicist Luis Alvarez, suggested that subjecting them to neutron activation analysis could help determine how long it took for the clay layer to form. The analysis, performed by LBL nuclear chemists Frank Asaro and Helen Michel, revealed to the surprise of everyone involved that the clay was about 600 times richer in iridium than the surrounding limestone. A silvery-white metal, related to platinum, iridium is quite scarce in the Earth's crust, found usually in concentrations of only 20 parts per trillion. When the Earth was formed, most of the iridium sank into the planet's core, 3,000 miles below the surface, where the concentration of the metal is 10,000 times that in the crust. Other sources of high iridium concentrations are extraterrestrial objects, such as meteorites or comets.

    Subsequent samples collected from clay layers found at locations in Denmark and New Zealand, where the geological record of the Cretaceous-Tertiary boundaries are also complete, revealed the same iridium anomaly, plus an abundance of soot. This iridium anomaly has now been identified at more than 75 sites worldwide, by scientists from 11 different laboratories. Iridium is generally found in combination with platinum, gold, and several other elements. Measuring the concentrations of these elements and comparing their ratio to iridium indicated that the widely scattered iridium all came from the same source.

    Putting all of the data together, Luis Alvarez concluded that the iridium anomaly was the result of a collision between the Earth and an extraterrestrial object approximately six miles in diameter. He speculated further that it was this collision that led to the death of the dinosaurs and all of the other species that perished during the Great Dying.

    When a rock the size of San Francisco, traveling at approximately 45,000 miles per hour, hits the Earth, there is an instantaneous release of approximately 100 million megatons of kinetic energy six billion times the force of the Hiroshima bomb. Luis and Walter Alvarez predicted the effects of such an explosion, based on the aftermath of the volcanic eruption of Krakatoa in 1883, the biggest eruption ever recorded.

    If the impact takes place on land, a heavy shroud of fine dust particles from the shattered planetary crust and the pulverized meteorite or comet would be swept high into the stratosphere by the mushrooming fireball, where it would slowly spread, wrapping the entire globe in a dense cocoon. The fireball's blazing heat would ignite enormous wildfires, the soot and debris from which would rise up and add to the sky-blackening dust, creating an extended period of endless night.

    Said Walter Alvarez in a report for the American Geophysical Union, "For a few months, it would be so dark you literally could not see your hand in front of your face."

    The darkness would shut down the photosynthetic process, killing all but the hardiest of plant species and driving the food chain into a state of collapse. Worldwide starvation would ensue as animals that feed on the plants die and the predators in turn follow. Extremely cold temperatures brought on by the darkness might usher in an ice age. Even if the impact takes place in the ocean, dust (from the crushed ocean floor) would still be shot above the atmosphere, only accompanying the dust would be tremendous volumes of vaporized water. After the dust finally settled, the water vapor would still remain. Solar heat reflected off the Earth's surface would be prevented from escaping into outer space by this thick moisture, and the consequence would be an oppressive greenhouse effect.

    "The bitter cold would be followed by a sweltering heat," said Walter Alvarez in his AGU report.

    To make matters worse, the energy released by the impact could serve as a catalyst to combine atmospheric nitrogen and oxygen into nitric acid that would fall back on the surface as corrosive precipitation.

    Singular event or an event that has recurred


    A plot of data on life extinctions, collected by David Raup and John Sepkoski at the University of Chicago, shows peaks in the extinction rate occurring at 26 to 30 million year intervals, as indicated by arrows.


    As originally proposed, the Alvarezes saw the Great Dying and the iridium anomaly as a singular event a fluke in Earth's history.

    A second iridium anomaly was discovered in samples taken from sediment that had been deposited on the floors of the Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico about 35 million years ago, when a less severe extinction occurred, but no one proposed a link between the two events. Then, in 1984, came a report from two University of Chicago paleontologists, David Raup and John Sepkoski, who had put together a detailed list of sea life that had become extinct during the past 250 million years. Containing more than 3,500 different species, it was the most complete extinction list ever compiled. When they subjected their list to computer analysis, Raup and Sepkoski discovered that mass extinctions occur periodically, approximately every 26 to 30 million years.

    Scientists immediately scrambled to find an explanation that could account for a persistent, recurring cycle of planet-wide species die-outs. Volcanic eruptions were the most obvious suspects, but volcanoes fail to account for the clay layer, the high soot content and, most significantly, the high iridium concentrations. Casting further doubt on the culpability of volcanoes was the discovery of shock quartz and microtektites along with the iridium and soot in the clay layer samples taken from around the world.

    Shock quartz silt-sized grains of quartz, which, under a microscope, show cracks and strains, is formed in the heat and pressure of a powerful explosion. It showed up routinely in rocks brought back from the moon by the lunar astronauts, but on Earth it has been found only in meteorite craters and at nuclear weapon test sites. Microtektites are tiny pieces of glass, believed to be droplets of rock that were melted in the heat of an impact and hurled up beyond the atmosphere where they cooled. Upon reentry, the droplets were reheated. The heating-cooling-reheating sequence gave the microtektites in the clay layer a unique spherule shape. Violent volcanic eruptions, such as took place on Mt. St. Helens, Washington, in 1980, can produce glassy material, but always in angular shapes because the melted rock is never ejected beyond the atmosphere. The quiet eruptions of the gentle basaltic volcanoes, prominent in Hawaii, will cough up spherule-shaped glass, called "Pele's tears," but distribute the material only in the immediate vicinity.

    Ruling out other terrestrial causes, many scientists turned to the heavens. One possibility was meteorites, which are chips of asteroids or planets moving randomly through space. However, a mechanism to explain the periodicity of the extinctions has yet to be found. A second possibility was comets, "dirty snowballs" of ice with a rocky center. Looping the solar system, beyond the orbit of Pluto and extending out to more than eight trillion miles, is a vast bracelet of comets known as the "Oort cloud," after its discoverer, Dutch astronomer Jan Oort. The trillions of comets in the Oort cloud generally maintain a slow but steady orbit around the sun. Occasionally, the gravitational field of a passing star will jar some comets loose, but few of these ever reach the inner solar system (Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars), as the gravitational pulls of Jupiter and Saturn acting somewhat like giant vacuum cleaners keep this part of the system relatively clean of comets and other space debris.

    However, a strong enough gravitational force could dislodge so many comets that, through sheer numbers, the inner solar system's protective cleaning mechanism would be overwhelmed. One of the first possible sources of this gravitational force to be considered was the molecular dust clouds in the central plane of the Milky Way. As the solar system revolves around the center of the galaxy, it bobs up and down, periodically crossing through the star-crowded central plane that is foggy with molecular dust star stuff that never coalesced. One of the many problems with this suggestion is that measurements have shown the molecular dust clouds to be far too thinly dispersed to exert sufficient tidal gravitational force. Also, the bobbing of the sun does not match the times of extinction, in fact, the sun is close to the central plane right now.

    Another source of gravitational pull that has been proposed is the existence of a tenth planet in the solar system. Called "Planet X," this planet would be a gas ball as much as five times the size of Earth, occupying a peculiar shifting orbit that is tilted at an angle to the solar plane of the nine known planets. This theory also calls for the existence of an as yet undetected inner disk of the Oort cloud, between the orbits of Neptune and Pluto. Every 26 to 30 million years, the orbit of Planet X would be shifted so that it would scrape the edge of the inner disk, sending a host of comets towards the sun. The major problem with this proposal is that the hypothetical inner disk of the Oort cloud would be unstable and could not remain a disk. Consequently, comets would be shaken loose in a steady shower over the 26 to 30 million year time periods, rather than torn loose in a concentrated storm.


    A mechanism to explain the periodicity of the extinctions

    The Nemesis theory fulfills all the requirements prescribed by the Raup and Sepkoski mass extinction timetable.

    As envisioned by Muller, Davis, and Hut, Nemesis is probably a red dwarf, the most common type of star in the galaxy (three-fourths of all the stars in the Milky Way are believed to be red dwarfs). Less than a third the size of the sun and about one one-thousandth as bright, Nemesis might travel in an elliptical orbit that at its perihelion (closest point) brings it within a half light year of the sun (one light year is about six trillion miles) and into the midst of the Oort Cloud. Right now, Nemesis may be at its aphelion (most distant point), nearly three light years away. The sun's closest known neighbor, Proxima Centauri, is about 4.25 light years distant.

    Another group of scientists, led by Daniel Whitmire, an astrophysicist with the University of Southwestern Louisiana, and Al Jackson, of the Computer Science Corporation, announced their own theory of a companion star to the sun in the same issue of Nature as Muller and his colleagues. Although the means of triggering massive extinctions are essentially the same, this second group believes the companion star is invisible: either a brown dwarf, a star so tiny that it never ignited, or a black hole, a shrunken star so dense that its gravity prevents any light from escaping.

    "We see no reason to assume the star is invisible," says Muller, "since most of the stars in the sky have never had their distance from us measured. If the companion has a magnitude between 8 and 12, it would be dim enough to have been missed in full sky parallax surveys."

    That the sun would have a companion star is by no means farfetched. More than 50 percent of the stars in the galaxy are partners in a binary system. The elliptical orbit of Nemesis would carry it farther away from the sun than the distance separating companions in any known binary system. Some scientists have protested that this orbit is too elliptical to be maintained and that Nemesis would have long since left the system. However, the calculations of Hut show Nemesis' orbit being stable for about a billion years.

    Says Muller, "The stability of the orbit is sufficiently long to account for the regularity in the extinctions, but it also implies that the companion star could not have been in this orbit since the formation of the Earth. Since gravitational capture is very improbable, the most likely scenario is that the companion star was once more tightly bound to the sun and its orbit is slowly being dissipated by passing stars."

    It is even possible, Muller suggests, that the gravitational shoving of Nemesis out into a more distant orbit coincided with an event referred to by astronomers as "the late great bombardment." Approximately four billion years ago, a celestial version of saturation bombing left the surface of the moon badly scarred with craters, which, because of the absence of atmospheric erosion, can still be seen. Voyager has shown the moons of Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn to be similarly pocked.

    The first fossil records on Earth also date back four billion years ago. Mysteriously enough, the division between the Earth's two eons, the Cryptozoic eon ("hidden life") and the Phanerozoic eon ("visible life") is sharply etched. Rather than a gradual appearance of increasingly complex fossils, the records show that the Cryptozoic eon ends with no fossils at all above the microscopic level, then the Phanerozoic eon begins and suddenly a dozen different types of elaborate organisms materialize.


    Testing the theory

    When Muller told Walter Alvarez about the Nemesis theory, the younger Alvarez saw that one means of testing it would be an examination of impact craters on Earth. If the theory is correct, craters should be clumped together in periodic segments of time corresponding to the times that mass extinctions took place. Unlike on the airless moon, where craters are preserved in near perpetuity, on the Earth, most craters are erased by water and wind erosion, as well as continental drift. However, some do survive, about a hundred of which are known. Examining 13 of the largest, most accurately dated of these craters, spanning the 250 million years of the mass extinctions studied by Raup and Sepkoski, Muller and Alvarez found the same 26 to 30 million year periodicity.

    "Our analysis has proven to be rather robust against changes in the data set," says Muller, "including the addition or elimination of a few craters, or changes in the minimum crater diameter examined."

    Recently, Muller and LBL physicist Saul Perlmutter used cosmic ray exposure ages to show that meteorites created by comets fell on Earth in flurries at approximately the dates of the last three major extinctions.

    "Exposure to cosmic rays begins when a meteorite is broken out of the parent body that had previously shielded it, usually an asteroid or the planet Mars, and ends when the meteorite lands on Earth," says Muller. "The cosmic ray exposure age of a meteorite can be determined by the amount of certain isotopes, such as neon 21, which are produced at a known rate by energetic cosmic rays hitting the meteorite. This exposure age tells us the time the meteor spent orbiting in the solar system since its creation."

    There are two types of meteorites, high-iron and low-iron. The high-iron meteorites (28 percent by weight), called "H chondrites," are formed when material from the iron-rich core of an asteroid or planet is blown out into space by a violent collision with a speeding comet. Low-iron meteorites, or "L chondrites," are formed from surface material tossed out by low-velocity collisions between asteroids. During their periodic flurries, high-iron meteorites fall on Earth in much greater numbers than low-iron meteorites, but in between these periods, the number of high- and low-iron meteorites striking Earth is about the same.

    "The distribution of the H chondrite cosmic ray ages provides new evidence confirming the claim of comet storm theory that a large fraction of the impacts on the Earth occur during relatively brief periods," says Muller. "This is the first evidence for comet storms not based on terrestrial effects."

    The evidence for Nemesis-triggered periodic comet storms based on cosmic ray exposure ages was drawn primarily from reviews of existing data. "In these days of tight budgets," observes Muller wryly, "the cheapest way to do research is in the library." Another review of existing data, this time by Muller and LBL physicist Donald Morris, uncovered evidence for periodic comet storms in the Earth's magnetic field.

    Volcanic rock, as it cools from the lava state, aligns itself with the Earth's magnetic field. In 1906, French physicist Bernard Brunhes discovered volcanic rock magnetized in the opposite direction of today's field. It is now known that the Earth's magnetic field has reversed itself many times throughout the planet's history, and at times has even been switched off. Muller and Morris felt that at least some of these geomagnetic flips were caused by comet impacts, and they developed a model to explain how it happened.

    The Earth's magnetic field is generated by slow eddies in its molten nickel-iron core that are the product of the heat flow out of the core, modified by the planet's rotation. When a crashing comet plunges the world into darkness, temperatures on the land drop much faster than those in the sea because water retains heat much longer than soil. According to the model of Muller and Morris, water near the equator evaporates and is redistributed as ice and snow on the polar caps. The result is a sudden (within a few hundred years) drop in the level of the oceans. In accordance with the conservation of angular momentum, the redistribution of mass alters the rotation rate of the Earth's crust and mantle with respect to the liquid core and leads to a disruption of the magnetic field.

    "It is the same as when figure skaters go into a spin with their arms extended, then draw their arms in to increase their rotational speed," says Muller. "The Earth's magnetism is so sensitive to the motions of the liquid core that it doesn't take much of a change in rotational rate to affect the field."

    Prior to the work of Muller and Morris, Chicago's Raup had examined the frequency of 296 geomagnetic reversals that took place during the last 170 million years and found peaks in the rate of reversals occurring approximately every 30 million years. Deposits of microtektites were also found in volcanic and seabed rocks from times when reversals took place. There was a sudden drop in sea level during the die-out of the dinosaurs, but there is no evidence of a geomagnetic reversal. This does not blemish the model of Muller and Morris, however, for it predicts that magnetic excursions, during which the field is turned off, would result from half of the impacts. Magnetic excursions are difficult to detect in volcanic rock.

    "Our model readily explains observed geophysical correlations, and accounts for the behavior of the Earth's magnetic field during a reversal," says Morris. "Although somewhat speculative, it is based on assumptions that are considered plausible by experts in the relevant scientific fields."

    A geomagnetic reversal could also take place should the polar caps melt and cause a sudden swelling of the seas. This, too, would alter the rotation of the Earth's crust and mantle with respect to the core and disrupt the dynamo.


    The Nemesis scenario

    When Luis and Walter Alvarez first presented their idea that the impact of an extraterrestrial object sparked the death of the dinosaurs, many paleontologists were quick to protest that the extinction of the dinosaurs did not transpire within a year or two, but was a gradual decline that dragged on for several hundred thousand years. Nemesis-launched comet storms reconcile this apparent contradiction.

    "We would not necessarily expect all species to die out simultaneously during a storm," says Muller. "Some species would be destroyed by an early impact, while others make it through, only to be killed by a later and larger impact."

    Under the Nemesis scenario, what at first glance might appear to be a single, gradual extinction, would, upon closer scrutiny, turn out to be a series of individual, abrupt, mass die-outs. This picture fits closely with the new school of evolutionary thought, coined "punctuated equilibrium" by Harvard paleontologists Steven Jay Gould and Niles Eldredge. In contrast to Charles Darwin's view of evolution being a steady process of smooth transitions to ever higher forms of life, what fossil records actually show are long stretches of inactivity, then a sudden jump over a few hundred generations.

    "It is as if evolution has its own kind of death, giving new species a chance," says Muller. "The species-versus-species competition that Darwin proclaimed appears to take place only during the relatively quiet periods between comet storms. Every 26 million years or so, instead of survival of the fittest, we may be looking at survival of the first, where the species that fills an open ecological niche first has the advantage. Without this catastrophe mechanism, Earth might still be a world ruled by trilobites."

    The extinction of the dinosaurs is the best illustration of the effect a Nemesis companion star could have on our planet's history. For years, school children were taught that the dinosaurs died out because they were cold-blooded clods, too big, too bulky, too slow, and too stupid to adapt to changing environmental conditions and competition from swift, small, clever, egg-eating mammals. This orthodoxy conveniently overlooked the fact that dinosaurs co-existed and ruled over mammals for more than 100 million years, 400 times longer than the reign of Homo sapiens. At the height of their glory, during the Cretaceous period, the menagerie of different dinosaurs filled nearly every ecological niche. When they were toppled, the ecological slate was wiped clean and mammals rapidly diversified to refill it.

    "Why are we here?" Steven Jay Gould has asked. "Because the dinosaurs disappeared, not because the mammals out-competed them."


    Search for Nemesis

    For now, Nemesis is a tantalizing specter. The case for the companion star is perhaps solid enough to score a victory in a court of law, but in the court of science, the ultimate proof will be in the finding. Joining Muller in the search for Nemesis at LBL are Perlmutter and physicists Carl Pennypacker, Frank Crawford, and Roger Williams. Using the computer-controlled 30-inch reflecting telescope at Leuschner Observatory, in Lafayette, Calif., the scientists are in the process of photographing 5,000 red stars in the northern hemisphere and measuring the parallax of each the shift in its apparent position as the Earth rotates around the sun. The telescope has been programmed to photograph each candidate, wait two to six months, then photograph each star a second time. The two positions can then be compared. A star far away will show little if any change in position, but a star close enough to be Nemesis will have moved perceptibly.

    So far, the Nemesis search has eliminated 41 stars. Says Perlmutter, "The system was difficult to start, but we've got it down now and could soon have the data on 3,000 more stars." It is Muller's suspicion that Nemesis might well be hiding in a constellation in the southern hemisphere called Hydra, simply because," he muses, "It's the biggest."

    Terrestrial-based testing of the Nemesis theory also continues. The presence of an iridium anomaly in craters that correspond to mass extinctions, and in volcanic rocks and sea beds that correspond to geomagnetic reversals would be a strong supporting argument for the occurrence of comet storms. Sediment samples are now being collected from far-flung locales and send to LBL's Asaro and Michel for analysis. The analysis process should go much faster than ever before with the use of a new detection device called the "Iridium Coincidence Spectrometer." Conceived by Luis Alvarez and designed by Asaro, the ICS should do in three years what previous equipment would have taken more than 100 years to do. Asaro and Michel expect to be able to analyze 6,000 samples a year.

    Humanity has never had to face the megablast of even one major comet impact. Perhaps the most important aspect of the Nemesis theory, and the one for which we as a species can be most grateful, is that the deadly little companion star is not due to return until the year 15 million A.D.


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    With all these plausible theories, I still haven't found which one these "elites" have data on which we don't have. Unless they are all overwhelmed by unconscious memories of catastrophes from their past.


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    Amzer Zo 16th August 2012 at 20:22 Link to Post #9
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    Reposting here from another thread since it belongs here as well:

    I think that too many cyclical events are being correlated to ONE companion star to our sun and inferred to be a dwarf star named "Nemesis."

    One type of cyclical events is illustrated with this "clock":


    A PLOT OF DATA ON LIFE EXTINCTIONS, COLLECTED BY DAVID RAUP AND JOHN SEPKOSKI AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, SHOWS PEAKS IN THE EXTINCTION RATE OCCURRING AT 26- TO 30-MILLION-YEAR INTERVALS, AS INDICATED BY ARROWS

    The above from: http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/extinctions-nemesis.html

    Check this java applet to get an idea on the long-period orbit of such a "companion":

    http://astro.ph.unimelb.edu.au/central/Mirrors/binary/binary.htm



    The other is given by the 26,000 year cycle of the precession of the equinoxes:


    http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml

    Due to the existence of both type of "clocks", and accordingly, that makes our solar system a TERNARY star system with one star called "Sun" and TWO companion stars BOTH named NEMESIS.

    There lies the confusion!

    Wasn't it Arthur Neuman who said something like: "The real trouble is that everything is happening at the same time!"?
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    Amzer Zo 16th August 2012 at 20:26 Link to Post #10
    Re: NOVA Magnetic Pole Flip 530,000 Years Overdue & Happening Now?

    Now that the main "clocks" are disentangled, reposting from that same other thread:


    Keeping with the train of thoughts of some of the magnetic reversals being due to falling skies on people's heads... here is the illustration suggested by the Binary Research Institute for the existence of the Oort cloud Sheer Edge:


    Now, that's quite a pool (billiards) game!

    That particular 26,000 year clock would have it's "midnight" every time this solar system gets bombarded with these asteroids.

    It therefore seems like the "elite" have gotten a pretty good idea on when that "midnight occurs, earth-time wise.

    This is also the scenario promulgated by Laura Knight-Jadczyk and the "Cs."

    Thinking of it though, it doesn't really matter where one goes in hiding within this solar system when all of it is going to be pummeled like Dresden during WW II... unless their secret space program is really about getting out of this solar system for a while...
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    Amzer Zo 9th October 2012 at 05:31 Link to Post #20888
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    Cool graphics!

    Re:
    Sun's motion:
    The "picture gets even more complicated when considering this solar system as a binary system:




    The above would explain why the sun keeps bopping above and below the galactic ecliptic with a slanted binary orbit with respect to that galactic plane; only the barycenter of that binary system follows along the galactic plane.

    Along with that binary hypothesis comes the origin for these legendary asteroids/meteorites pummeling of this solar system:




    However, from the recorded periodicities of these meteorite/asteroid downpours, it is suspected that this solar system may in fact be part of a ternary system due to two distinct periodic occurrences... headache anyone?

    Ooops... forgot... hello all!
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    Amzer Zo 10th October 2012 at 17:34 Link to Post #20980
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    OK... here is my attempt at clarifying the matter of the known facts about these cycles of asteroids/meteorites pummelings:

    I think that too many cyclical events are being correlated to ONE companion star to our sun and inferred to be a dwarf star named "Nemesis."

    One type of cyclical events is illustrated with this "clock":



    A PLOT OF DATA ON LIFE EXTINCTIONS, COLLECTED BY DAVID RAUP AND JOHN SEPKOSKI AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, SHOWS PEAKS IN THE EXTINCTION RATE OCCURRING AT 26- TO 30-MILLION-YEAR INTERVALS, AS INDICATED BY ARROWS

    The above from: http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/extinctions-nemesis.html

    Check this java applet to get an idea on the long-period orbit of such a "companion":

    http://astro.ph.unimelb.edu.au/central/Mirrors/binary/binary.htm


    The other is given by the 26,000 year cycle of the precession of the equinoxes:

    http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml






    Due to the existence of both type of "clocks", and accordingly, that makes our solar system a TERNARY star system with one star called "Sun" and TWO companion stars BOTH named NEMESIS.

    There lies the confusion!

    Wasn't it Arthur Neuman who said something like: "The real trouble is that everything is happening at the same time!"?


    Now that the main "clocks" are disentangled:

    Keeping with the train of thoughts of some of the magnetic reversals being due to falling skies on people's heads... here is the illustration suggested by the Binary Research Institute for the existence of the Oort cloud Sheer Edge:



    Now, that's quite a pool (billiards) game!



    That particular 26,000 year clock would have its "midnight" every time this solar system gets bombarded with these asteroids.

    It therefore seems like the "elite" have gotten a pretty good idea on when that "midnight occurs, earth-time wise.

    This is also the scenario promulgated by Laura Knight-Jadzcyk and the "Cs."

    Thinking of it though, it doesn't really matter where one goes in hiding within this solar system when all of it is going to be pummeled like Dresden during WW II... unless their secret space program is really about getting out of this solar system for a while...

    Now... on the other hand, every time one of these cycle completes, there are LESS and LESS of these asteroids/meteorites left as potential projectiles against this solar system ... which make it easier to focus and deflect the remaining ones!




    To corroborate with the Dogon cosmology there are these other interesting recorded cycles about Sirius:


    From: http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/srg/SiriusResearch.shtml


    Mr. Homann concludes below that:
    "These observations clearly indicate that the so-called 'precession of the earth' is NOT a scientific fact, and that the Sirius system has a noticeable gravitational influence on our solar system."

    INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA:
    Significant time deviations in earth's period of rotation, as measured with respect to Sirius have occurred over certain months (e.g. in the spring of 1989, when Sirius A, Sirius B and the sun were in direct conjunction). Some minor, but nevertheless distinct deviations appear at regular yearly intervals (usually around March). Since these deviations occur annually, the gravitational influence of the moon or perturbations caused by other planets in the solar system can be excluded. Since such deviations from mean sidereal time CANNOT be caused by an increase or decrease in the speed of earth's rotation, I suspect a combined 'gravitational' effect of the sun and the Sirius system on the earth's axis of rotation. In my article "Some more thoughts on gravitation" I have tried to describe how the Sirius system might be responsible for a 'curvature in space' that can reach as far as to our solar system. As we know, the revolution of Sirius B and Sirius A around their common center of gravity over a period of about 49 years proceeds in an almost vertical plane relative to the planetary plane of our solar system. This motion could cause a periodic fluctuation in the curvature of space, similar to an ocean where a calm wind would create long-stretched waves. If a ship were to sail on such waves, its mast will gently swing back and forth. Likewise, during the earth's orbit around the sun the axis of the earth would 'oscillate' due to these periodic fluctuations of the space-curvature between sun and Sirius. Although the speed of earth's rotation remains unchanged (!), a positive or negative time-deviation from mean sidereal time can be measured, depending on the magnitude and direction of the oscillation of the axis, the sidereal point of reference and the latitude on earth from which the measurements are taken. As a matter of fact, the International Earth Rotation Service observes significant daily variations in earth's sidereal rotation period.

    It is also very important to remember that despite some major variations in earth's period of rotation, the mean time interval of the sidereal year or earth's complete orbit period basically remains constant.

    Even more surprising is the observation that the mean time interval of the sidereal year, as measured with respect to Sirius is nearly identical (by less than one second) to the time interval of the tropical year. According to the theory of 'precession', a yearly time difference of about 1223 s is supposed to occur between a sidereal year and the tropical year.

    The meridian transit measurements of Sirius have shown that neither a time difference of 6 × 1223 s, nor a difference of 6 × 3.34 s has occurred over the 6-year observation period from April 1994 to April 2000.

    These observations clearly indicate that the so-called 'precession of the earth' is NOT a scientific fact, and that the Sirius system has a noticeable gravitational influence on our solar system. Obviously, Newton's laws of gravitation cannot explain Einstein's universe. In that respect, it requires further study to see if the 49 year cycle of the Sirius system can provide us with an explanation of the large fluctuations and annual irregularities in earth's rate of rotation that have also been observed around 1941 by experts at the US Naval Observatory.

    Additional Comment:
    Two other phenomena should be mentioned that took place during the conjunction of Sirius A, Sirius B and the sun around the beginning of February to the end of March 1989, as the function of the time deviation entered from the negative into the positive range (see Graph 1). During this time our outermost planet Pluto, whose revolution period of 248.421 years is exactly 5.0004 to 1 in relation to the Sirius B - Sirius A's orbit period of 49.68 years, went through the perihelion of its very eccentric orbit. On 23 March 1989 an 800 m long 'rock' came in strikingly close proximity to our earth at a speed of about 70.000 km/h. Missing our earth by only a few hours - thereby sparing us a gigantic catastrophe - it also went through its perihelion between sun and Sirius. Thanks to astronomers, who discovered it as it already disappeared again into the vastness of space, a major widespread panic was avoided. These celestial phenomena are not subject to plain coincidence, but are lawful celestial mechanical events. In fact, the Sirius system determines the second (empty) focus point, which is essential for the elliptic orbits of these and other celestial bodies in our solar system. Keep in mind that even our earth has its perihelion around January 2, as it passes through the conjunction of sun and Sirius each year

    According to how records have been deciphered, Ancient Egyptians were VERY obsessed with Sirius. That was their chronometer/clock.



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    Amzer Zo 10th October 2012 at 23:39 Link to Post #21019
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    Last bits of data regarding these meteorites/asteroids periodically visiting this solar system:

    Little bits of iron in favor of the meteorite hypothesis:

    http://alaskareport.com/news28/ned71...moth_tusks.htm

    March 5, 2008
    The mystery of mammoth tusks with iron fillings
    By Ned Rozell

    A giant meteor may have exploded over Alaska thousands of years ago, shooting out metal fragments like buckshot, some of which embedded in the tusks of woolly mammoths and the horns of bison.

    Simultaneously, a large chunk of the meteor hit Alaska south of Allakaket, sending up a dust cloud that blacked out the sun over the entire state and surrounding areas, killing most of the life in the area.


    Embedded iron particles surrounded by carbonized rings in the outer layer of a mammoth tusk from Alaska. Inset photo shows how an object ripped through the tusk. Image courtesy Richard Firestone.

    Such is the scenario envisioned by Rick Firestone, a staff scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California. Firestone and his colleagues have found mammoth tusks and a bison skull with nickel-rich iron particles in them on one side, suggesting the metal fragments all came from the same direction.

    Firestone's theory emerged when his colleague, Alan West of Dewey, Arizona, saw at a Phoenix gem and mineral show a mammoth tusk peppered with tiny bits of metal. Intrigued, West and Firestone looked at tusks owned by the same dealer in Calgary. By passing a magnet over mammoth tusks in Calgary, Firestone and West found seven mammoth tusks collected somewhere near the Yukon River and a bison skull from Siberia that had tiny iron fragments burned into them. The fragments also contained nickel.

    "One in 1,000 tusks had this material in it," Firestone said.

    See this post for further discusiion: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post500017

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    Then, this last one that occurred 12,000 -- and change -- years ago:

    Meteorite storm 'smashed the Earth 12,000 years ago and killed off a prehistoric people'
    By Daily Mail Reporter PUBLISHED:09:49 GMT, 12 June 2012 | UPDATED:15:01 GMT, 12 June 2012
      • Scientists find 'melt-glass' in 12,000-year-old rock
      • Melt glass forms at 1,700 degrees - equal to atomic bomb
      • Meteorites thought to have triggered a cold snap that killed off early civilisation and giant animals
    Scientists have found compelling evidence that a meteorite storm hit the earth more than 12,000 years ago, and is likely to have been responsible for the extinction of a prehistoric people and giant animals including mammoths.Evidence of the meteorite’s intense heat was found on two continents. The researchers believe the huge cosmic impact triggered a vicious cold snap, which caused widespread destruction.

    The international team found a substance known as melt glass, which forms at temperatures of 1,7000 to 2,200 degrees Celcius and can result from a ‘cosmic body’ hitting the earth.


    Extreme heat: The meteorite impact caused the 13,000-year-old quartz found in Syria to melt and boil, creating features including burst bubbles and flow textures

    The material was found in a thin layer of rock in Pennsylvania and South Carolina in the US, along with Syria. Tests confirmed the material was not of cosmic, volcanic or human-made origin.

    More... 'Mega meteor that crashed off Indian coast' may have wiped out dinosaurs

    ‘The extreme temperatures required are equal to those of an atomic bomb blast, high enough to make sand melt and boil,’ said James Kennett, professor of earth science at UC Santa Barbara.

    The melt-glass appears identical to other material found in Meteor Crater in Arizona, and the Australasian tektite field, and also matches melt-glass produced by the 1945 Trinity nuclear airburst in New Mexico in the US, Professor Kennett said.

    The team's findings support the controversial theory that an asteroid impact occurred 12,900 years ago and triggered the start of an unusual cold period on Earth, leading to widespread extinction of human and animal life.

    In the cold period, known as the Younger Dryas, North American megafauna including mammoths and giant ground sloths disappeared forever, along with a prehistoric civilisation called the Clovis culture.

    The Clovis people used distinctive bone and ivory tools and are regarded as the first human inhabitants of the New World.


    Match: Melt glass, known as trinitite, formed during the Trinity nuclear airburst in New Mexico in 1945 when rocks melted. The scientists say the melt-glass is similar to that found in the 12,800-year-old rock


    Evidence supporting the theory has now been found on three continents, covering nearly one-third of the planet, from California to Western Europe, and into the Middle East.

    Syria is the easternmost site yet identified in the northern hemisphere, but the researchers have yet to find a limit to debris field of the impact. Melt-glass has been found in rock layers of the same age in Arizona and Venezuela.


    Scientists found the melt glass - evidence of the meteorite's intense heat - in Pennsylvania and South Carolina in the US along with Syria

    The three sites found in the latest study were separated by 1,000 to 10,000 kilometers, suggesting that ‘a swarm of cosmic objects,’ either fragments of a meteorite or comet, had hit the earth, Professor Kennett said.

    Professor Kennett added that the archaeological site in Syria where the melt-glass material was found –– Abu Hureyra, in the Euphrates Valley –– is one of the few sites of its kind that record the transition from nomadic hunter-gatherers to farmer-hunters who live in permanent villages.

    ‘Archeologists and anthropologists consider this area the “birthplace of agriculture,” which occurred close to 12,900 years ago,’ Professor Kennett said.

    ‘The presence of a thick charcoal layer in the ancient village in Syria indicates a major fire associated with the melt-glass and impact spherules 12,900 years ago,’ he continued.

    ‘Evidence suggests that the effects on that settlement and its inhabitants would have been severe.’

    The study was published today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2158054/Scientists-discover-evidence-meteorite-storm-hit-Earth-13-000-years-ago-killed-prehistoric-civilisation.html

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    Now, if the return period of these bolides corresponds to the binary or ternary period of this solar system, the first one wouldn't occur till some 15 million years from now and, the second one, not until another 12,000 years from now...


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    Amzer Zo 11th December 2012 at 10:11 Link to Post #2723

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    Posted by Paul (here)
    [...]
    Ah - but we're not crossing the galactic plane. We last passed through the galactic plane about 3 million years ago, and won't cross it again for another 30 million years . The solar system is now about 75 to 100 light years above the galactic plane.
    [...]

    Then, I would like to see the data for that because, accordingly, the crossing of the equatorial galactic plane around C.E. 1998 is pure fiction.

    Because, from what I managed to reconstruct from the data I collected is that our solar system bops up and down about the equatorial galactic plane every 12,000+ years (see calz diagram above) while dancing in a spiral with its binary twin around the galactic center.

    See one of my recent post, where observations about Sirius indicate that it is not the earth that wobbles to generate the precession of the Equinoxes but, rather, the circling of our sun around the center of gravity of its dance with its twin in a binary system. That same dance that would get both stars bopping above and below that galactic equatorial plane.


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    Amzer Zo 11th December 2012 at 19:58 Link to Post #2730
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    Posted by Calz (here)
    Either Paul is on to something or else he is colluding with the debunkers
    [...]
    http://www.2012hoax.org/galactic-equator-vs-plane
    [...]
    http://www.2012hoax.org/galactic-plane
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    Posted by Paul (here)
    [...]
    See Will Earth cross the galactic equator in 2012? and Will our solar system cross the galactic plane on December 21, 2012? for a source for my claims the earth last passed above the galactic plane 3 million years ago, will pass it again in another 30 million years, and is now 75 to 100 light years above it.
    [...]

    Thanks guys!

    Confusion sorted out and demonstrating I wasn't hallucinating:

    Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    I think that too many cyclical events are being correlated to ONE companion star to our sun and inferred to be a dwarf star named "Nemesis."

    One type of cyclical events is illustrated with this "clock":


    A PLOT OF DATA ON LIFE EXTINCTIONS, COLLECTED BY DAVID RAUP AND JOHN SEPKOSKI AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, SHOWS PEAKS IN THE EXTINCTION RATE OCCURRING AT 26- TO 30-MILLION-YEAR INTERVALS, AS INDICATED BY ARROWS

    The above from: http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/extinctions-nemesis.html

    Check this java applet to get an idea on the long-period orbit of such a "companion":

    http://astro.ph.unimelb.edu.au/central/Mirrors/binary/binary.htm


    The other is given by the 26,000 year cycle of the precession of the equinoxes:

    http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml



    Due to the existence of both type of "clocks", and accordingly, that makes our solar system a TERNARY star system with one star called "Sun" and TWO companion stars BOTH named NEMESIS.

    There lies the confusion!

    Wasn't it Arthur Neuman who said something like: "The real trouble is that everything is happening at the same time!"?

    Now I know what both "clocks" relate to!

    One is the elusive companion star of the solar system binary twin and the other to the mass of the galactic disk itself. Both called "Nemesis."


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    Amzer Zo 19th February 2013 at 12:58 Link to Post #7
    Re: "Mini Solar System Entering Our Own" Breaking News from Prof. James McCanney

    First of all, this James McCanney's monologue is a couple of years old according to the comments below the video on YouTube.

    Second, the only plausible hypothesis for a "mini solar system" is the one about our solar system being part of a binary star system and, by definition, the twin "solar system" cannot enter our solar system but both stars keep dancing around each other while circling the galaxy.

    That said, since NASA seems to be way out of the loop from black ops and the break-away "civilization," it cannot help but being made to consistently lie about most anything, in short, NASA is as ignorant as we are and the only data they can rely on are their own, under the airbrushing of they released pictures.

    McCanney's "mini solar system" hasn't, at yet, shown up on any "radar" nor amateur astronomers' telescope, not for a lack of looking for it since the 50s.

    However, there definitely is an increase in witnessed fireballs across earth's skies as well as meteoritic sonic booms all over the place (see http://www.sott.net/category/17-Fire-in-the-Sky)... salvos hurled into space eons ago that we keep running into every now and then and, with every return, the probability of being hit with a "big one" diminishes.


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    Amzer Zo 21st February 2013 at 16:52 Link to Post #30
    Re: Brown Dwarf Star Flyby estimated maximal Earth impact date of June-July 2013

    And another repost from another thread:

    Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Second, the only plausible hypothesis for a "mini solar system" is the one about our solar system being part of a binary star system and, by definition, the twin "solar system" cannot enter our solar system but both stars keep dancing around each other while circling the galaxy.

    Posted by Operator (here)
    Ok, I am no expert so just a few serious questions out of curiosity:

    1. In a binary system both stars are always beyond the orbit of each outer most planets?
    2. If 1 is true then would it be possible that orbits of (outer most) planets could intermingle?
    3. Is there definite proof of how the asteroid belt came to be?

    Well, what I gathered out of the Binary Research Institute, is that -- from a mechanical point of view, not the "electrical Universe" one -- these objects are dislodged from the Oort Cloud:


    The period of cycling around each other being fine tuned around 24,000 years when taking into account acceleration (speeding up) and deceleration (slowing down) of both stars on their orbit around each other. With such a period/frequency for these "returns," anything that was too close to each other at the beginning of the solar system formation would, by now, be settled into a stable geometry around their respective sun at each passing/"return."

    So, that's a definite "YES" for the question.

    As for question #2, from a mechanical point of view and not an "Electrical Universe" one, considering the period/frequency/return of 24,000 years over a time scale of billions of years, I would think that anything that could get smashed to smithereens, was; and that, now, any outer objects are somehow in a stable geometry around their respective sun as well as with each other.

    However, that may not be true for the Oort Cloud objects which still may get dislodged with each passing as pictured above. This then support the double whammy envisioned by Laura Knight-Jadczyk of "waves" of old dislodged objects in long orbits added to the newly ejected ones.

    On question #3, none that I know of, the debate mostly being between a "man-made" catastrophe and the destabilization of the gravitic standing wave (see Stan Deyo) for that particular orbit. If that asteroid belt were formed due to a smashing of a celestial bolide into a planet, I would expect the pieces to have flown around in all directions and not constitute an annular belt but some ellipsoid envelops around both the Sun and Jupiter (still from a mechanical point of view, not sure what the picture would be with the Electrical Universe or a David Lapoint inverted magnetic bowls).


    As for getting an idea of the complexity of motions around a moving sun orbiting a binary companion while circling the galaxy, check this one out:


    Hope this gives some reference frame to explore the subject further?


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    Amzer Zo 27th February 2013 at 17:19 Link to Post #37
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    Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
    [...]
    Earth Is Not Orbiting The Sun
    netlethe·164 videos
    [...]
    Planets DO NOT "orbit" the Sun.
    [...]
    There is no such thing as "orbit" in Phi Spiraling 3D Space. An orbit means that object A traces a complete circle around a STATIONARY object B on ONE plane. Like a centrifuge.
    [...]
    There is no "fabric of space."
    [...]
    Jason Verbelli

    Well... these guys are playing with words and definitions.

    What make them right with their definitions is that the complete motion of a planet in space around a galaxy is considered. Well, they still use the center of the galaxy as a reference frame.

    And that's the key concept: Reference Frame

    If one takes the sun as reference frame (making it "stationary") no matter what the sun's motion is around its binary twin and both dancing around a galaxy itself dancing in a choreography of galaxies, then the planets DO ORBIT around the sun even though the actual, compounded motion is an elliptically spiraling elliptical spiral (taking into account the spiraling motion of a binary system circumnavigating the galaxy).

    And that's depicted in Nassim's video when the view is perpendicular to the sun's traveling path.




    No planet gets lost in space behind the sun's path, in a trail of lost planets, around the galaxy! Even the asteroid belt and the Oort cloud are kept in synch with sun's motion around the galaxy!

    For that to happen, then the planets have to be maintained in ORBIT around the sun, as a nearly independent reference frame, irrespective of their actual motion around the galaxy.

    How's that possible?

    That's where the Electric Universe and its Electromagnetic wooffs and warps give a very plausible solution to the mechanisms at work:






    The above experiments do demonstrate that THERE IS A FABRIC TO SPACE!

    DURHAM, N.H. — After three years of puzzling over a striking “ribbon” of energy and particles discovered by NASA’s Interstellar Boundary Explorer (IBEX) at the edge of our solar system, scientists may be on the verge of cracking the mystery.

    In a paper published Feb. 4, 2013, in the Astrophysical Journal, researchers, including lead author Nathan Schwadron of the University of New Hampshire, propose a “retention theory” that for the first time explains all the key observations of this astrophysical enigma.


    A three-dimensional diagram of the retention region shown as a "life preserver" around our heliosphere bubble along with the original IBEX ribbon image. The interstellar magnetic field lines are shown running from upper left to lower right around the heliosphere, and the area where the field lines "squeeze" the heliosphere corresponds to the ribbon location. The red arrow at the front shows the direction of travel of our solar system. Image credit: Adler Planetarium/IBEX Team.

    “If the theory is correct,” Schwadron notes, “the ribbon can be used to tell us how we’re moving through the magnetic fields of the interstellar medium and how those magnetic fields then influence our space environment.”



    See this thread: Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Explained
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0jHsq36_NTU


    This guy's got a good grip on the subject except he is missing why our sun is traveling in an elliptical spiral in a similar fashion as planets do around it... i.e. that the sun is "orbiting" around a twin in a binary system:




    Now, in order to "run into" space debris, said space debris need to go against the grain of our solar system's motion... which is not much possible in an Electric/Plasma Universe because the reins of such motions are held by the entire galaxy the same way those reins are held by our sun(s) in the solar system to keep its planets orbits in good order.


    And, for all I know, these comets, asteroids and other celestial projectiles have some kind of orbits pinned to this solar system, whether binary or not; they are not rogue celestial "species" this solar system "runs" into.


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    Amzer Zo 1st April 2013 at 13:37 Link to Post #3
    Re: Niburu has returned to the Inner Orbit of our Solar System ???

    So...

    ... is it a planet or is it this solar system's binary twin sun?

    Not withstanding that such an enormous body caracoling through this solar system would render any above ground or underground refuges totally useless...


    Here is the real disinfo psyop which keeps perpetuating the myth:

    Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    My, my, my... here we go again...

    Here is from Ken Adachi, a former devoted Zeta sucker (a certain PT Barnum reckoned there's one born every minute... so it's a never ending story):
    I had expected Nancy Lieder and Zeta Talk to disappear from the Internet following the 2003 fiasco, but I guess a built up CIA/NASA/military disinformation psyops like Zeta Talk is simply too juicy a scam to just abandon, so they proffer a truly moronic and pathetic 'White Lie' excuse to explain away their prediction failure and just move the date up another eleven years to 2012! So we are treated with another nine years of disinformation nonsense, fear mongering, anxiety promotion, worry promotion, fear of having children born into such a nightmare world, re-locating to remote, bare bones survival locations, etc., etc., for a whole new generation of suckers, rubes, and newbies who will buy into the Zeta Talk lie with the same wide eyed belief that I bought into it between 1995 and 2003, and wind up posting YouTube videos with ingenious sounding explanations of mysterious celestial body movements in the solar system accounting for this or that "HMO" and similar absurdities. .

    I've also re-printed the current home page from ZetaTalk further below which includes links to the modified Pole Shift explanation mentioned above and the "White Lie' gambit. Remarkable, Nancy also includes the following statement on her current Zeta Talk home page:

    "Note: Where Planet X came into the inner solar system in early 2003, it has not yet passed, though has gone through gyrations while passing the Sun's S Pole and adjusting to the Sun's magnetic field. Some ZetaTalk is best understood in the context of the date written. These topics, below, are organized by date written and should be read in order for a historical perspective. The increase in Earth changes and electromagnetic interference and evidence of Planet X in the inner solar system is palpable. For the very latest ZetaTalk, however, jump to the bottom for news about the current year!"

    Here, we witness the lunacy, ridiculousness, and witlessness of Zeta Talk, Nancy Lieder, and her handlers in full flower. She reports that this huge red planet, Nibiru, which she and Zeta Talk said was 4 times larger and 23 times more dense than Earth, had ENTERED the earth's solar system in 2003; yet still had not "passed."

    How could a 'planet' 4 times larger than earth enter the earth's solar system in 2003 and not be seen by astronomers?

    Full article and antecedents here:

    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/zetat...n24mar12.shtml


    Neither Nancy Lieder nor her followers have learnt one damn thing from their Hale-Bopp fiasco, Y2K fiasco, 2003 fiasco, 2012 fiasco... so, 2013 is the new target date .


    This thread and the PDF it promotes are definite MUST READS: Must Read: The Matrix Deciphered by Dr Robert Duncan in order to understand a "Nancy Lieder" or the frequent resurrection and perpetuation of "Nibiru/Planet X/Pole Shifts/Doom/Gloom/Catastrophe/Prophecy/Armageddon/End of Time/ELE/Etc..."

    As for the unwitting promoters perpetuating the above non-sense... well, one could always ask the many healers on this forum to lend a hand at healing the so-called "common" sense and its application... might prove fruitful?






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    Here is an analysis that one might find to be applying to this never ending story of “Nibiru/Planet X” resurrecting from its ashes every now and then and keeping its arrival “sometime soon” every few years:



    The disaster of manufactured consent in the Matrix
    by Jon Rappoport March 15, 2013
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    This article may seem to be about abstract theory, but it isn’t. It’s about how populations are viewed by psychological-operations specialists.

    More importantly, it’s about how people are led to accept substitutes for their own highest ideals. The substitutes look like the real thing, but they’re actually very well drawn cartoons.

    The most successful long-terms psyops are aimed at getting people to accept “good things, wonderful things.” Except, it turns out that these things magically evaporate and leave populations in the lurch.

    Imagine for a moment that every crisis we now find ourselves in, every form of pollution and poisoning and every war and every mass destruction of life…was preceded and precipitated by…a psyop that looked like a golden destiny of fulfillment.

    Okay. Let’s begin.

    At some point, every intelligent human develops their own reality.

    This reality isn’t usually a clear, articulated, and overall position. It tends to be a hodge-podge of linked ideas, preferences, feelings, principles, and morals.

    Nevertheless, consciously and unconsciously, the person refers to it often, and uses it as a tool with which to navigate through life.

    In the Matrix, there is pressure to have people connect their realities to each other. Why? Because groups can thus be created. Groups are easier to compromise than individuals.

    We get the concept of hooked ideas. A hooked idea is one which will entice people to merge their realities into One. The hooked idea can be expressed as a slogan, a so-called meme, a principle. It is introduced by people who work psyops.

    A psyop is a campaign to herd people into a place where their individual realities overlap.

    For the propagandist, there is the eternal search for the good, better, and best hooking idea, the one that will collect the greatest possible number of people under one roof.

    This has nothing to do with true progress or honest intent. It has everything to do with control.

    Therefore, the actual content and substance and meaning of the hooking idea is irrelevant. A retired propaganda operative once told me, “If I could broadcast a piece of absolute gibberish from one end of the planet to the other, and have it picked up and consented to, I would do it.”

    For a psyop specialist, the jackpot is a large group of hooked ideas that, taken together, change the world, and bring a billion or more people’s realities into one overlapping space.

    Here is a current ongoing group of such hooked ideas. Before you read them, remember that the aim of such ideas is collecting people under AN IMITATION OF THE REAL THING.

    Whatever meaning these hooked ideas have, they are not searching out people to move them into actual individual choices. No, the objective is to rope them under a fake banner that looks real.

    “Help others. Help the needy. Raise up the needy. We’re all in this together. Greatest good. Greatest good for the greatest number. Humanity as one. Peace. Let’s all cooperate. The human family…”

    This is only a partial list of the group of hooked ideas.

    These ideas are transmitted to the global population through every means possible: ads, public service announcements, political speeches, movies, articles, books, the news, television shows of every type, the education system. It’s a blitz, and it doesn’t stop. All the angles are played.

    The psyop calculation runs this way: the majority of people who buy in and connect their realities to other people’s realities and achieve overlap—will go passive and accept “the new humane society.” All these people are complete pawns.

    The sector of people who buy in and thus share realities, collectively, and then DO something about it…these people will follow a prescribed path. They’ll join the approved groups and campaign for the chosen causes. They’re dupes.

    The very small fraction of people who buy into the group of hooked ideas and think of them as genuine and real, and also DO something genuine and real and good about it, will create a manageable amount of disruption to the scheme and the objective—which by the way is a completely collectivist planet. The operative word here is “manageable.”

    This same retired propaganda operative, who goes by the pseudonym of Ellis Medavoy (I interview him 28 times in one section of my collection, THE MATRIX REVEALED), explained this “psyop calculation”:

    “The target of a terrific psyop is yearning and longing. That’s what I looked for when I was working: what people long and yearn for. Something unformed and undefined but very powerful. That’s what I wanted to tap into.

    “If I could tap into that, people would buy in and surrender a significant part of whatever their personal world looks like. Because they want to believe they’re coming together with like-minded others. They’ll also believe the path laid out for them is correct and proper and wonderful. This is really a fake religion we’re talking about.

    “A fake religion. It’s really for children, and most people turn out to be children. Give them a group of high-minded ideas, and they’ll grab on and think everything they’ve done up to that moment is a prelude to THIS.

    “We [operatives] are playing a symphony, you see, and once they listen to the prelude, they’re hooked. They stay. They long for the climax, which doesn’t exist; not the way they imagine it. To them it’s all about ‘arrival in the promised land,’ as if that’s some kind of gift that’s wrapped up under the tree, waiting to be opened.

    “We give them a fake god, a dead-end god. If they were once burning with authentic faith, we derail that and take them to another place…”

    In truth, there is no such thing as the sum of all personal realities. That concept is a delusion that is foisted on people.

    As I stated at the beginning of this article, each person has their own reality. It may be a hodge-podge, it may be borrowed to some degree, but it IS the reality of the individual. Each person has the opportunity, if he takes it, to expand that reality and make it more profound, on his own terms.

    But once he becomes mesmerized by the notion of overlapping his reality with others, he’s in a whole different pew.

    Here is another very important distinction: you and I and others could, for example, decide to start a business. We could cooperate in this new enterprise. We could decide on common objectives. We could be inspired to a tremendous degree. But we are still—each of us—carrying along our individual realities. That’s what gives us our core individual strength. That’s what allows us to contribute to the group.

    And we’re aware of what we’re doing. We’re choosing to do it.

    That’s quite different from falling under the sway of a psyop. That’s quite different from buying into hooked ideas on a emotional level. That’s quite different from accepting the generalized idea of an emotional and spiritual merger of our personal realities.

    In the latter case, what is happening is the supreme irony: people are buying the idea that their freedom actually equals their merging.

    It is exactly this “merging” that obsessed technocrats are proposing. They see it in terms of humans and machines “coming together.” This is their envisioned promised land. The ability to instantly access trillions of pieces of information and do lightning-speed calculation and organize that information in countless ways is their version of personal revelation.

    It’s their fake religion.

    Humans and machines as One is, if you examine it, the sacrifice of personal reality.
    Of course, technocrats don’t see it that way. But that’s what they’re doing.
    Information is only one component of personal reality—and they’re blowing that up into a god.

    There is a sequence at work here. First, with the development of the computer, people could search and find information. Now, they can have computers anticipate what the desired information is and provide it. Finally, people will be given—quite apart from their desires—the information they require, as adjudicated by experts.

    This has less and less to do with personal reality.

    Manufactured consent in the Matrix is a bit of a misnomer. Manufactured consent IS the Matrix, at the most profound level.

    Whatever a person has as his personal reality is something to build on. You might say it’s the engine by which he can set sail and voyage. And during his personally navigated voyage, he enlarges and changes his personal reality. It becomes more powerful. It becomes more a matter of imagination and a life lived through and by imagination.

    In this light, cooperation with others takes on a whole new meaning. The longing and obsession to overlap his reality with that of others fades in importance.

    His immunity to hooked ideas becomes stronger.

    The very notion of what personal reality is changes. It is no longer simply a fixed configuration set in concrete.

    The psyop is aimed at disintegrating the personal voyage.

    It is aimed at flattening the emotions and shortening the perspective and short-circuiting the fire in the soul.

    Hooked ideas and manufacturing consent and overlapping realities and merging are the tools used to deaden life and invent the collective future.

    In that future, each person becomes a mirror that reflects every other person. And it turns out that there is no substance at all in the trillions of rebounding reflections.

    The endless overlapping deletes all content.

    Personal reality and the personal voyage are the WAKING UP that breaks the trance.

    A great deal of history of the human race, littered as it is with suffering and pain and war and hunger, was produced by competing psyops.

    Each side was utterly convinced that its ideals were superior. What neither side realized was that everybody, on all sides, was accepting a psyop substitute of their own personal reality. That was the big switch.

    Each person on each side had bought into a hooking idea that looked so good and so right and so wonderful.

    And each person was operating on a false basis. Each person had, without noticing it, misplaced his own personal reality.

    You could accurately write, on many gravestones: “I died for a psyop.”

    In this day and age, political leaders have entirely given up the notion of personal reality, if they even understand what it means. For them, it’s all about psyop, because they are thinking about mass and number and population. They are looking for central hooking ideas—the very best they can find—and how to express them and transmit them as convincingly as possible.

    The major differences between these leaders are to be found in how well they function as mouthpieces for hooking ideas.

    Freedom? Democracy? The will of the people? A better future for all? Equality? Justice? These are merely concepts in search of ways to run psyops.

    Jon Rappoport

    The author of an explosive collection, THE MATRIX REVEALED, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free emails at www.nomorefakenews.com
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    Default Re: Nemesis, Tyche, Nibiru, Planet X, Brown Dwarf & Binary System: Myths & Realities

    so are we going to die or not? LOL

    Kidding aside, wow, what a tremendous amount of work to put this together thank you. I am certainly going to spend some time going through the links.

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    Thanks Amzer Zo for taking the time to compile this info.
    Positively fascinating; now to make the time to red and digest it all!

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    very good last post Amer Zo, easy to understand and easy to make the links and thanks you for the overview of it all.

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    Hey Amzer,

    Great post my friend. We should indeed try to clarify this issue, which very often is misrepresented and misinterpreted here.

    Nowadays I can´t stand hearing a word about Planet X or Nibiru, which are, by themselves, highly controversial concepts created by very controversial and questionable persons; Nancy Lieder and Zecharia Sitchin, respectively.

    Nancy Lieder, who coined the term Planet X back in 1995 , allegedly received the information from Zeta extraterrestrials and was successively wrong about her claims, being involved in several scandals, like the one in this video, where she admits to have not only killed her own dogs, but to have told her followers to also kill their dogs to "spare" them from a collapse that never happened, back in 2003. She´s a lunatic, plain and simple.

    Sitchin´s reputation is also highly questionable; He´s unanimously considered a charlatan among the ancient language scholars community. Independent respected specialists from all over the world claim that his translations of the Sumerian/Akkadian cuneiform tablets are not even close to be accurate. They also claim that the vast majority of information present in his books is fabricated and can´t be found anywhere in the original texts. Some other people claim that Sitchin actually "channeled" most part of his information, which doesn´t give him any more credibility as well. Anyway, there´s a very interesting website that not only proves how much Sitchin was wrong, but teaches the reader to look for the information and verify it for himself.

    However, I do not disregard the idea the we may live in a binary system at all. It is indeed very possible, but I vehemently disagree with the way people normally treat this subject, recycling already refuted mumbo jumbo and posting fake youtube videos over and over and over again.

    This subject must be investigated with seriousness, based on facts, not on unsubstantiated claims made by people with questionable reputations.

    I appreciate what you´re doing here. Lets stop feeding the lies and start focusing on solid data and research.

    Cheers,

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    Thanks AmerZo, you did a lot of work putting together all the Treads and Posts pertaining to the phenomenon Nemesis or some other names of this planetoid. It looks like a compendium, great of you to offer this to Avalon members.

    As I have read in another Tread, you seem to classified this phenomenon as dis-info, do I read you right..?

    My belief of this phenomenon is based on intuition, on gut feeling, something is heading our way! I don't say that to bring fear, nobody on this Forum is afraid of this, and I have read many don't believe any of this, and this is great also!

    As you are aware, many scientists were giving advice on what IRAS had photographed in the beginning of his journey. An article in some Scientific Magazine was written on the subject, saying that a large planetoid was heading our way.

    Later on, other scientists mentioned that IRAS had photographed another Galaxy in proximity of our Solar System. So who knows, even scientists contradict themselves, we surely do the same here, and it great!, maybe something will come out of our exchanges.

    We are in world of lies, a world of illusion, a world control by the Financial World who want to keep us un-informed, and what else they want to keep us from knowing...?

    And what would be the reasons why many governments of the World have build cities underground, they know something we don't. And why the rush to build a Seeds Vault in Norway, why recently...?, something that the Financial World don't want us to know.

    Love to all.

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    Interesting read - http://www.viewzone.com/browndwarf2.html

    http://www.viewzone.com/nemesis.html
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    Quote Posted by Deega (here)
    My belief of this phenomenon is based on intuition, on gut feeling, something is heading our way! I don't say that to bring fear, nobody on this Forum is afraid of this, and I have read many don't believe any of this, and this is great also!
    Hello my friend Deega,

    This is a very interesting phenomenon that goes way beyond the existence or nonexistence of a potential massive threat to the human race.

    As far as recorded history go, men always had this gut feeling that something is on our way; demons, mad gods, titans, plagues, curses, rapture, asteroids, aliens, rogue planets, solar storms, you name it.

    "The End is Nigh" syndrome is just part of who we are. Apparently, this feeling will never go away as long as we live.

    Unfortunately, it seems that we´re unable to overcome this inherited fear, and some people, whether they are our own leaders or just dishonest or delusional individuals, have been using this ever present latent sensation of fear against us for several purposes, the most common being mass manipulation and financial purposes.

    Of course, the unpredictable nature of such phenomena is really fascinating. Our time will come, eventually. We know that, but we just don´t know when, and this whole fear and fascination comes from the insecurity generated by having no idea about what the future may hold for us.

    However, we know that, statistically, judging by the thousands of previous miserably failed predictions about the various facets of such alleged threat, it´s most likely that we all will die from old age long before the human race finally may witness its ultimate end.

    So, lets enjoy the ride and try not to be overly paranoid; While we´re too busy imagining death, life happens.

    Raf.
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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Hello my friend Deega,
    Hello my friend Raf, thanks for your reply, here is a few comments.
    As far as recorded history go, men always had this gut feeling that something is on our way; demons, mad gods, titans, plagues, curses, rapture, asteroids, aliens, rogue planets, solar storms, you name it.
    In this particular case, my gut feeling stand on the premises of Scientific Research by astronomers, astrophysicists who have been studying what is going on in the Oort Cloud, fascinating research. They have found disturbing evidence that has them say that there something special going on in this part of our Solar System. It’s on these premises that my gut feeling stands, not what you have mentioned. Don’t believe me, read on the IRAS Satellite discovery.
    "The End is Nigh" syndrome is just part of who we are. Apparently, this feeling will never go away as long as we live.
    Unfortunately, it seems that we´re unable to overcome this inherited fear, and some people, whether they are our own leaders or just dishonest or delusional individuals, have been using this ever present latent sensation of fear against us for several purposes, the most common being mass manipulation and financial purposes.
    The above don’t stand in this instance, though, I would have to say that the programming we received when young has had some effect on what you are mentioning.
    Of course, the unpredictable nature of such phenomena is really fascinating. Our time will come, eventually. We know that, but we just don´t know when, and this whole fear and fascination comes from the insecurity generated by having no idea about what the future may hold for us.
    Concerning what the future hold, we have a somewhat control over it if we live by love (not easily done though!), whatever happened, it would be relatively easy (not always surely!) to accepted as one more step in the pursuit of enlightening our spirit.
    However, we know that, statistically, judging by the thousands of previous miserably failed predictions about the various facets of such alleged threat, it´s most likely that we all will die from old age long before the human race finally may witness its ultimate end.
    I should point out here, I’m talking about scientists doing research in the Oort Cloud, not on what you love to indicate ‘’failed predictions’’. You know that there were people like Edgar Cayce, Nostradamus, and surely others, that were accurate in their predictions, one don’t need to put them all in the same basket.

    All the best to you.

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    I posted more information here
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    As I have read in another Tread, you seem to classified this phenomenon as dis-info, do I read you right..?

    [...]
    If I am writing about a phenomenon, that's data and/or empirical fact; therefore not disinfo per se.

    However, the interpretations and theories spun around those facts are mostly disinfo.

    Case in point: "Nibiru entering our solar system" that's disinfo fear mongering because it implies that Nibiru is not part of our solar system. However, according to its legend, it has a devastating "cycle" upon this Earth every so-and-so years. The latter implies that, because it is cyclical, it does belong to (pinned to) our solar system and therefore CANNOT "enter" it: it's already "in" it!

    Same story for the brown dwarf as a binary companion to our sun. If that is the case, then, it is part of our solar system and accordingly CANNOT "enter" our solar system simply because it is already part of it, right from start!

    The other disinfo spins are regarding the existence of an additional "planet" -- big enough to disturb the orbits of the outer planets of our solar system -- within our solar system. That's debunked daily with astronomers , professionals and amateurs, who skim the night skies all over the Earth -- at different times -- looking for any puny object that display any kind of motion by stacking a number of pictures onto each other. That's how comets and asteroids are discovered. Yet, no trace of such an object has ever been found and not because of a lack of looking for it!

    In view of the above, don't you start smelling "PsyOps" as described by John Rappoport?

    Quote The most accurate description of that mysterious (there it is that propaganda... "mysterious") body is that it is cold, hence not radiating much energy, and does not reflect light as a planet does (see the articles referenced in that PDF). Also, it does not perceptibly move as a planet or a comet would.

    Hence:
    A comet? NIET!

    A planet? NIET!

    So, why call it "Planet X," "Tyche," etc?
    Quote Where did Sitchin find the 3600 years cycle for Nibiru? No one knows! It's certainly not written on any Sumerian tablets. Also, according to one of Bill Ryan's friend/witness, Sitchin wrote his books via automatic writings. Hence the "Fiction" category for his books.

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20331-The-Anunnaki&p=216395&viewfull=1#post216395
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24489-Was-Sitchin-wrong&p=257351&viewfull=1#post257351

    So, Nibiru? NIET!

    In my view, keeping calling that identified body as "Nibiru" is a not so subtle way of perpetuating the propaganda.
    Quote Let me put it this way, our solar system as a binary system, has become stable as such for a long, long time with both stars orbiting around each other. Check this animation to get a visual on how this works:

    http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml

    As such, the rule of the relationship between our Sun, its companion and their respective planets is: NEVER THE TWAIN SHALL MEET!


    Hence all you can read about a large object coming in between Earth and Sun and using our Sun planetary system as a bowling alley is just propaganda and disinfo to foster fear and hysteria.
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    Thanks Amzer Zo, for post 18, I just want to say that Astronomers, Astrophysicts are observing perturbing phenomenons in the outer limit of our Solar System and some of them speculate that it should be a big planetoid object.

    They were not able to see it yet, so we will have to wait and see what is up coming!

    This morning Chris put up a link (Niburu has returned to the Inner Orbit of our Solar System ???) on a similar Tread, have a look, it is very interesting, you will like.

    Love to all.
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    This morning Chris put up a link (Niburu has returned to the Inner Orbit of our Solar System ???) on a similar Tread, have a look, it is very interesting, you will like.

    Love to all.
    Thanks Deega, but... no thanks.

    It is partly because of that thread that I started this one (check the OP first paragraph...) and check the title of that thread you mentioned... the disinfo is right in that title... and the OP of that other thread has now started trolling this one... what a world!

    As for McCanney:

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    February 27, 2013 posting ... !!!!!!!!!!!!! EMERGENCY ANNOUNCEMENT ... DISINFORMATION UPDATE !!!! THE DISINFO CREW IS AT IT AGAIN ... AT LEAST 2 YOUTUBE POSTINGS ARE TRYING TO IMPERSONATE ME AND PASS FALSE INFORMATION ... there are at least 2 youtube videos posted recently by nameless disinformation agents placing my voice making it look like i am saying that a planet X object is coming into the solar system at this time ... THIS IS NOT TRUE ... I AM NOT SAYING ANY SUCH THING ... AND THIS IS WHY I NEVER POST ON YOUTUBE OR ANY OTHER MEDIUM EXCEPT MY OWN WEB PAGE ... what they have done is chopped segments of a 2004 program of mine and posted a february 2013 date on the face and posted on youtube under 2 different names making it sound like i am stating planet X object is now in the solar system ... then in the listener comments they of course post many slams trying to make me look like a nut case making false predictions of planet X ... I AM CURRENTLY WORKING WITH YOUTUBE TO HAVE THESE POSTINGS REMOVED ... this should show you that i am succeeding in informing the public of REAL events and exposing the government bogus tier II science for what it is ... this type of misinformation is their form of damage control as we head into this year of GREAT COMETs in which NASA and their fairy tale science will be exposed worldwide for the garbage that it is and my Plasma Discharge Comet Model will become the clear truth on the topic of comets and the electrical nature of our solar system ... this comes also as i am about the release my latest book (see the next posting) ... it seems someone is afraid of my success ... jim mccanney

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    Regarding the psyops... it seems it's finally getting unglued...

    From comments on "Nibiru" videos:

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    • d5uncr 2 months ago
      Marshal Masters, Mr yowusa himself, promised I'd see two suns on Dec 21 (yowusa . com/videos/yowusa/twosuns).
      Where is it? I want my money back...

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    • Brian B 1 year ago
      So I watched quite a few 'NIBIRU' videos today and either at the beginning or the end there is some sales pitch about praying to Jesus. Do you suppose if I were watching this video somewhere in the middle east I would get an Allah commercial?

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    • mrstarfighter 1 year ago
      stick with the yowusa.com website, Nibiru is inbound and March 22nd will be the next 188 day alignment.
      · in reply to pdxeddie1111 (Show the comment)


    Years after years... always... next year!
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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    "The End is Nigh" syndrome is just part of who we are. Apparently, this feeling will never go away as long as we live.

    Unfortunately, it seems that we´re unable to overcome this inherited fear, and some people, whether they are our own leaders or just dishonest or delusional individuals, have been using this ever present latent sensation of fear against us for several purposes, the most common being mass manipulation and financial purposes.

    Of course, the unpredictable nature of such phenomena is really fascinating. Our time will come, eventually. We know that, but we just don´t know when, and this whole fear and fascination comes from the insecurity generated by having no idea about what the future may hold for us.
    I agree Raf. It is hugely immoral for those who use these things for their own gain (financial or otherwise). They are among the worst. Those who spread this baseless sensationalism without gain are at best misguided. They aren't as bad, but they certainly aren't helping.

    I think the phenomena (and its aptitude for spreading so prolifically) stems not only from our uncertainty of the future, but also an innate sense that one day we will each die. Some don't recognize it, and many are in denial of the fact. I believe this is, in a way, a projection of their own fear of physical death. There is a strange security in the sense that the whole world is going to go down with them.

    So I'll second the advice given above; curb your paranoia. Accept that certain things are inevitable, and there is nothing to be gained by living in fear. No amount of worrying would stop Nibiru/whatever (if it existed), and no level of concern will prevent the death that is on your horizon. Don't be weighed down by circumstances which are out of your control. Do not allow yourselves to be ruled by fear.
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