What Class are You ?........BBC..The Great British class calculator....& similar economies

[Cidersomerset]

I just saw this item on the BBC news, its a sad item when we should all be equal
and class eradicated. Yet whatever system or country you live in, the bureaucrats
like to fit us into a box with a tick in it.Though it is interesting and gives a social gauge
to each era and proves we still have not found the most fair form of governance for
all in society !.


BBC ONlINE...3 April 2013 Last updated at 05:00

The Great British class calculator

'Huge survey' Class calculator The results The methodology

Click on link to use calculator....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22007058

Class calculator
The results
The methodology

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mURhNIjc-Kw

John Cleese, Ronnie Barker and Ronnie Corbett in the Class Sketch Previous
definitions of social class are considered to be outdated Continue reading the main
story


People in the UK now fit into seven social classes, a major survey conducted by the
BBC suggests.It says the traditional categories of working, middle and upper class
are outdated, fitting 39% of people.It found a new model of seven social classes
ranging from the elite at the top to a "precariat" - the poor, precarious proletariat -
at the bottom.More than 161,000 people took part in the Great British Class
Survey, the largest study of class in the UK. Class has traditionally been defined by
occupation, wealth and education. But this research argues that this is too
simplistic, suggesting that class has three dimensions - economic, social and
cultural.

The BBC Lab UK study measured economic capital - income, savings, house value -
and social capital - the number and status of people someone knows. The study
also measured cultural capital, defined as the extent and nature of cultural interests
and activities.

Jill Kirby: Class is almost irreluvent in Britain
Audi clip on link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22007058

The new classes are defined as:

ELITE

The most privileged group in the UK, distinct from the other six classes
through its wealth. This group has the highest levels of all three capitals

ESTABLISHED MIDDLE CLASS

The second wealthiest, scoring highly on all three capitals. The largest and most
gregarious group, scoring second highest for cultural capital

TECHNICAL MIDDLE CLASS

A small, distinctive new class group which is prosperous but scores low for social
and cultural capital. Distinguished by its social isolation and cultural apathy

NEW AFLUENT WORKERS

A young class group which is socially and culturally active, with middling levels of
economic capital

TRADITIONAL WORKING CLASS

Scores low on all forms of capital, but is not completely deprived. Its members
have reasonably high house values, explained by this group having the oldest
average age at 66

EMERGENT SERVICE CLASS

A new, young, urban group which is relatively poor but has high social and cultural
capital

PRECARIAT, OR PRECARIOUS PROLETARIAT -

The poorest, most deprived class, scoring low for social and cultural capital The
researchers said while the elite group had been identified before, this is the first
time it had been placed within a wider analysis of the class structure, as it was
normally put together with professionals and managers.

At the opposite extreme they said the precariat, the poorest and most deprived
grouping, made up 15% of the population.

The sociologists said these two groups at the extremes of the class system had
been missed in conventional approaches to class analysis, which have focused on
the middle and working classes.

Methodology

Professor of sociology at Manchester University, Fiona Devine, said the survey
really gave a sense of class in 21st Century Britain."What it allows us is to
understand is a more sophisticated, nuanced picture of what class is like now. "It
shows us there is still a top and a bottom, at the top we still have an elite of very
wealthy people and at the bottom the poor, with very little social and cultural
engagement," she said.

"It's what's in the middle which is really interesting and exciting, there's a much
more fuzzy area between the traditional working class and traditional middle class.

"There's the emergent workers and the new affluent workers who are different
groups of people who won't necessarily see themselves as working or middle class.

"The survey has really allowed us to drill down and get a much more complete
picture of class in modern Britain."

Solicitor Vikki Harding is classed as an 'emergent service worker' under the new
ranking The researchers also found the established middle class made up 25% of
the population and was the largest of all the class groups, with the traditional
working class now only making up 14% of the population. They say the new
affluent workers and emergent service workers appear to be the children of
the "traditional working class," which they say has been fragmented by de-
industrialisation, mass unemployment, immigration and the restructuring of urban

Solicitor Vikki Harding is classed as an 'emergent service worker'

vid on link...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22007058


The findings have been published in the Sociology Journal and presented at a
conference of the British Sociological Association on Wednesday.Researchers asked
a series of questions about income, house value, savings, cultural and leisure
activities and the occupations of friends. They were able to determine a person's
economic, social and cultural capital scores from the answers and analysed the
scores to create its class system.The GBCS was launched online in January 2011,
but data showed participants were predominantly drawn from the well-educated
social groups. To overcome this a second identical survey was run with a survey
company GFK, with a sample of people representing the population of the UK as a
whole, using the information in parallel.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22000973

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The Great British class calculator

Traditional British social divisions of upper, middle and working class seem out of
date in the 21st Century, no longer reflecting modern occupations or lifestyles.The
BBC teamed up with sociologists from leading universities to analyse the modern
British class system. They surveyed more than 161,000 people and came up with a
new model made up of seven groups. To find out where you fit in use this calculator
below.




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22000973


Your personal information is safe - all calculations are carried out on your computer
BBC Lab UK's Great British Class Survey was launched in January 2011. More than
161,000 people took part, making this the largest ever study of class in the UK
The Great British Class Survey was designed and the data analysed by Professors
Mike Savage and Fiona Devine and their teams at the London School of Economics
and the Universities of York and Manchester

The class calculator provides you with an approximate position in the new class
system compared with the full Great British Class Survey

Produced by: Steven Atherton, Kathy Neal, Harjit Kaura, Christine Jeavans and
Applied Works

[Cidersomerset]

After posting this thread I looked on Davids site and found this article...


While Children all over Britain go to bed hungry the Addams family get a £5 million increase from taxpayers' money

Wednesday, 03 April 2013 10:56

Posted by David Icke

What will people do about this outrage? F--- all.

They say that people get the rulers they deserve and they are right.






Can anyone spot the difference?

No, me neither.

Read more ...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/8...axpayers-money


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BBC ONLINE....

2 April 2013 Last updated at 19:00

Queen's funding to rise by £5m under new Sovereign Grant the queen The grant
also helps fund royal palaces Continue reading the main story The annual cost to
the taxpayer of supporting the Queen is rising by £5m, following changes to the
way the monarch's role is funded.The Sovereign Grant, used to fund a number of
official royal duties, pay staff and maintain palaces, has been set at £36.1m for
2013/14.The figure is up from the £31m received the previous year, which included
an extra £1m for the Diamond Jubilee. Buckingham Palace said spending in real
terms had fallen from five years ago.The new grant, which came into full effect on
Monday, replaces the old system of the Civil List and grants-in-aid.

Marginal rise

Apart from official duties and household costs, the grant will also go towards
maintaining royal palaces in England and will cover the cost of travel for royal
engagements in the UK and official overseas tours.The new grant means the Queen
receives 15% of Crown Estate profits, but from funds two years in arrears.

Accounts for the Crown Estate, which owns property on behalf of the monarch,
revealed profits of £240.2m for 2011/2012. The final figure for the new funding was
rounded up to £36.1m - very close to the estimated amount - by the Royal
Trustees in December.Royal accounts released in 2012 indicated the cost of
supporting the monarchy rose marginally during 2011/12.In 2011/12 the Queen's
official expenditure totalled £32.3m - up 0.6% from £32.1m in 2010/11.

According to the accounts, some £10m goes towards paying the salaries of the
Queen's staff, including royal chefs and footmen.However, there has been a freeze
on wages for a number of years.The cost of providing security and police protection
for members of the monarchy is not included in the official expenditure figure.

A spokeswoman for Buckingham Palace said: "The Sovereign Grant for the year to
31 March 2014 amounts to £36.1m, which is 15% less in real terms than the Royal
Household's expenditure five years ago.

"During the past five years the Royal Household has reduced its expenditure in line
with reductions in funding, and key building and conservation works have
necessarily been postponed as a result, thereby increasing the maintenance
backlog."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22003165

[boja]

I know my place :-

UNDER THE TABLE, BEHIND THE DOG !

[Cidersomerset]

I know my place :- UNDER THE TABLE, BEHIND THE DOG !

[mosquito]

As usual, it all comes down to money doesn't it.

[witchy1]

Some people are so poor, all they have is money!

[happyuk]

One thing I have always disliked about being British - the obsession with class and social standing.
That and their general uptightedness.
It still pervades everywhere even today in our supposedly classless society.
You either come from the 'right' school and speak in a certain way; or you don’t.
And I definitely don’t!

[Cidersomerset]

One thing I have always disliked about being British - the obsession with class and social standing.
That and their general uptightedness.
It still pervades everywhere even today in our supposedly classless society.
You either come from the 'right' school and speak in a certain way; or you don’t.
And I definitely don’t!

We have been told for decades we are a classless society, but we have not
been as conned as our cousins across the pond.At least we knew they are lieing!

[mosquito]

Posted by happyuk (here)
One thing I have always disliked about being British - the obsession with class and social standing.
That and their general uptightedness.
It still pervades everywhere even today in our supposedly classless society.
You either come from the 'right' school and speak in a certain way; or you don’t.
And I definitely don’t!

But you probably speak with one of the most beautiful accents of the whole English-speaking world, music to the ear !!!

[witchy1]

I brought a book called "Shakespeare's England" which is an old book published 1911. It contains many works from authors from the 1500 and 1600's.

In essence it contains many short stories of every day life from 1500 & 1600's - including the very wealthy and their children, Education and schools , a chapter on "snobbery" (and even a chapter on Superstition) Clearly the class system was alive and very well from very early times.

Perhaps its genesis I will find at the end of the book?

[sheme]

If you are really classy (Like wot I am )you don't give a damn about who they are, speak to them all as you would like to be spoken to. love and light for all -there is plenty to go around.

[Healthy Skeptic]

This is embarrassing!!
I am just an 'Aussie Convict' and, after taking the test, I was classified as 'ELITE'!!!
How is that possible??
"Stuffed if I know"!!
Love, HS