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    Angry 4 Simple (really) questions (Obama birth certificate lies)

    lotta truth here... found this on a'nuther site...enjoy

    4 Simple Questions



    1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time ?



    2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 & Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right ? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged
    25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in " Kenya , East Africa ". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate".



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya)



    3. On the Birth Certificate released by the Wh ite House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called
    "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged.

    How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978 ?

    http://http://www.kapiolani.org/wome...s/default.aspx
    (http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-c...s/default.aspx)

    Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media ?

    4. Perhaps a clue comes from Obama’s book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I’m not a math genius, so I may need some help from you. Barack Obama’s “birth certificate” says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when he was born. That should have put his father’s date of birth approximately 1936—if my math holds (Honest! I did that without a calculator!!!) Now we need a non-revised history book—one that hasn’t been altered to satisfy the author’s goals—to verify that WW II was basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year old s fight in wars? Even in the latest stages of WW II his father wouldn’t have been more
    than 9. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes (still qualifies as a “liar”) ?



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    Default Re: 4 Simple (really) questions (Obama birth certificate lies)

    One simple answer;

    Those in charge can do anything.

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    Default Re: 4 Simple (really) questions (Obama birth certificate lies)

    "9. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes (still qualifies as a “liar”) ?"

    Another simple answer:

    YES!

    The birth certificate scam as pretty much been proven to be just that -- a scam. A fake.

    Why hasn't this been discused in the major media?

    It has.

    Do you actually tune in to the 'major media'? If you do, then you know what they spew.

    Those were easy questions.

    Now toss us some tough ones. ;-)
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    Default Re: 4 Simple (really) questions (Obama birth certificate lies)

    Its a reasonable assumption to make that the Birth Cert was fake - it was also a pretty bad photoshop job if I recall, but given that is the case it cannot be used to make any statement of Obama nationality - one way or the other. All that has been proven is that the birth cert is fake.

    I think it was a setup deliberately to undermine Obama.

    What he should of course do, is show us the real one. He does not actually need to do that though, and chooses not to.

    Smoke and mirrors.

    Also, IMO, distraction.
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    Default Re: 4 Simple (really) questions (Obama birth certificate lies)

    gittarpikk wrote:

    Quote Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar...
    The man is a NWO puppet politician... that should make it plenty clear... nuff said.

    turiya

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    Yes, Kenya did exist back then...

    It's like saying Canada doesn't exist because it's a part of the commonwealth.

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    Default Re: 4 Simple (really) questions (Obama birth certificate lies)

    I added "(Obama birth certificate lies)" to this thread's title, in my ongoing preference for clarity over catchiness
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    Default Re: 4 Simple (really) questions (Obama birth certificate lies)

    Also, can someone paste an image of the certificate showing where it says 'african american' - I can't seem to find it on my own...

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    Default Re: 4 Simple (really) questions (Obama birth certificate lies)

    all the presidents (within an unknown to me timeline) of the US were placed into that power by you know who. there is not a damn thing we can do about it.

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    Hey....trying to save you a lot of grief here..... I'm gonna sound like a broken record to some as I've brought this up before in several other threads. Obama's birth certificate is irrelevant. Why? Because THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is nothing but a corporation. There are 3,141 counties in this country and every one of them has an EIN number further solidifying their corporate status. Obama is nothing but a CEO of a corporation thereby breaking no laws as this country is ruled under corporate law /common-law not common law. So we can continue the merry-go-round to no where by spending tax payers dollars fighting the illegitimacy of the birth certificate, which is only a distraction to pull you away from what you should really be focusing on. Capiche? Class dismissed!

    PS Love the attorney behind this who doesn't even understand the very legal system he works under.

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    Here this might help:

    "1871, February 21: Congress Passes an Act to Provide a Government for the District of Columbia, also known as the Act of 1871*

    With no constitutional authority to do so, Congress creates a separate form of government for the District of Columbia, a ten mile square parcel of land (see, Acts of the Forty-first Congress," Section 34, Session III, chapters 61 and 62).

    The act -- passed when the country was weakened and financially depleted in the aftermath of the Civil War -- was a strategic move by foreign interests (international bankers) who were intent upon gaining a stranglehold on the coffers and neck of America.

    Congress cut a deal with the international bankers (specifically Rothschilds of London) to incur a DEBT to said bankers. Because the bankers were not about to lend money to a floundering nation without serious stipulations, they devised a way to get their foot in the door of the United States.

    The Act of 1871 formed a corporation called THE UNITED STATES. The corporation, OWNED by foreign interests, moved in and shoved the original Constitution into a dustbin. With the Act of 1871, the organic Constitution was defaced -- in effect vandalized and sabotage -- when the title was capitalized and the word "for" was changed to "of" in the title.

    * Info from yet unpublished book, "Pentimento: Freedom Revisited." As you will see when reading, just as much of my knowledge of the Trading with the Enemy Act came from Gene Schroder, et al. this, too, came from elsewhere -- from Lisa Guilian of Babel Magazine, whom I first "met" by way of an article by Patrick Bellringer. So, we cooperate as we study and learn the truth. C. E."


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    Default Re: 4 Simple (really) questions (Obama birth certificate lies)

    Quote Posted by gittarpikk (here)

    Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media ?
    There is no big mystery here. The birth certificate is conclusively a forgery. These facts are not controversial or in dispute, save for in those circles not fully informed on this issue, which admittedly is most of the entranced population drunk on propaganda and victim of Madison Avenue social engineering and mind control.

    Why is the media not talking about this issue? Because it's irrelevant (unless you so happen to subscribe to the illusion that the Law of the Land applies to our overlords). But that premise is simply an illusion. As Goethe so aptly put it, "none are more hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free..."

    Asking Barack Obama to submit proof that he is eligible to serve as POTUS, per the Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution, is kind of like asking Santa Claus to submit proof that he has a valid license to fly a reindeer sleigh. Grandpa Joe, prancing about in his red-suit and white beard on Christmas Eve, when questioned by the suspicious children as to the veracity of his identity as Santa Claus, may go to all lengths to fabricate some kind of flying-reindeer-sleigh license if one of the children demand to see such a document to prove that he really is Santa Claus. But going through the motions is just indulging the illusion. The whole birth certificate narrative is no different than this analogy.

    It's all theatre, folks. The premise that Barack Obama's forged birth certificate (which is true) is relevant to begin with is false. Anything founded on that premise is just fodder for the masses to sustain the illusion itself.
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    Default Re: 4 Simple (really) questions (Obama birth certificate lies)

    Quote Posted by gittarpikk (here)
    1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time ?
    The birth certificate does NOT state that the father is "African-American". It shows that he is "African".
    Here's an image of the alleged "original":
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_854248.html

    Quote Posted by gittarpikk (here)
    2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 & Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right ? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged
    25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in " Kenya , East Africa ". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate".
    The "Colony of Kenya" existed from 1920 - 1963. The birth certificate correctly shows that the father was from this colony, part of British East Africa.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_Colony

    Spent enough time researching your first two point and assume that the last two points are of the same caliber of research and accuracy. While we here at Avalon know that things in the world are not always what they seem, we should not accept bad research and errant arguments to support this. Stop wasting our time.

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